S07.E18: Big Girls, Do Cry

[OnceSane]

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Putting the final charter at risk, Kate sets Kevin up for failure by allowing him to present the primary’s requested erotic cake knowing she already went to bed. Captain Lee arranges a Full Moon Party on a private beach for the crew’s final night. While Courtney and Brian try to resolve their issues, Tanner makes his final attempt at wooing Kate. Kevin confronts Kate before the crew departs Valor for good.

Airs February 3, 2020.

[pieinmyeye]

But Kev, you are an idiot!

[Mr. Miner]

Kevin is such a fucking cunt! I can’t express how much I loathe his sorry ass. 🖕🏻

[PaperTree]

Kate did not “set Kevin up”.  It fell in her lap when the primary crashed.

She had no idea what the reaction would be. 

Such a whiner.

[pieinmyeye]

Great comment about Kevin and his balls, or lack there of, Kate!

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

Ya just know “Tan” flicked his cigarette butt after that phone call into the beautiful Thai harbor and sea. Jackass. 

[TexasGal]

All of these guys, except maybe Brian, really have drinking issues.  Kevin is incoherent every night out.  And is he 5?  Kicking sand at people is very constructive you wanker. 

[esco1822]

Kevin does NOT look like Tom Cruise. Why would anyone tell him that??

[pieinmyeye]

Keep your opinions to yourself, Simone. I know I certainly don’t give two shits what you have to say. OMG, guys. Shut up!

[TexasGal]

4 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

Kevin does NOT look like Tom Cruise. Why would anyone tell him that??

He does actually sort of remind me of Tom Cruise’s cousin, who always pays scheming bad guys.  Blanking on his name right now...

[PaperTree]

Simone can now use this season to further pad her resume.  She didn't learn a thing.

[whydoievencare]

Clearly Kevin is his own biggest fan - he's just incredulous that Kate doesn't see what a great chef he is.  He's been at her all season about her quality as a Chief Stew, blamed her for all his errors (like a fucking child who can't take blame), stirred up shit at every turn with everyone, and drank to excess at every opportunity - how many times has he had to be carried to the boat and to his bed?  He is a complete asshole.  Simone, if Kate's only lesson for you was how to be self reliant - well, that's something you should have come to the job with.  Hate all the brus. 

[esco1822]

4 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

He does actually sort of remind me of Tom Cruise’s cousin, who always pays scheming bad guys.  Blanking on his name right now...

William Mapother I think?

[biakbiak]

5 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

He does actually sort of remind me of Tom Cruise’s cousin, who always pays scheming bad guys.  Blanking on his name right now...

William Mapother, which is Tom Cruise’s given surname. 

[esco1822]

I will never understand Brian. He gives Kevin shit about kicking sand in Kate’s face but Kate isn’t allowed to be upset about it? 

[ParadoxLost]

5 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

I will never understand Brian. He gives Kevin shit about kicking sand in Kate’s face but Kate isn’t allowed to be upset about it? 

Brian seems like he's managing drunk behavior but thinks that drunk behavior should not be held against the drunk.  This is actually one of the bigger problems with the guys on this crew,  They act like what happens when they are drunk doesn't matter and that the women are unreasonable, or worse, for having an issue with it.

[pieinmyeye]

Does anyone know when the reunion was filmed?

[txhorns79]

1 hour ago, PaperTree said:

Kate did not “set Kevin up”.  It fell in her lap when the primary crashed.

I mean, I don't like Kevin, but Kate spoke a few times about getting Kevin back for calling her a dick by having him be embarrassed in front of the guests and captain.  She obviously didn't arrange for the primary to get drunk and go to bed, but she certainly had the opportunity to give him a head's up about the primary no longer being there. 

I found the season overall disappointing.  It was too much boys v. girls, and it felt a lot like the fun got sucked out of the show.   

[PaperTree]

6 minutes ago, pieinmyeye said:

Does anyone know when the reunion was filmed?

Last Tuesday.

[biakbiak]

9 minutes ago, txhorns79 said:

mean, I don't like Kevin, but Kate spoke a few times about getting Kevin back for calling her a dick by having him be embarrassed in front of the guests and captain.  She obviously didn't arrange for the primary to get drunk and go to bed, but she certainly had the opportunity to give him a head's up about the primary no longer being there. 

Weren’t those talking heads? I don’t think she could have predicted that would have been their reaction just because Jemelle wasn’t there.

[ParadoxLost]

Do they always have a private party for the finale?  That seemed like a terrible idea.

Put a bunch of people that are so sick of each other that they want to go to their separate corners and pretend like its a party.

Seems like some combination of the women decided to be woo girls just to make it seem like this was a good party.

I guess they figured they would get more drama if they dropped them on a private island where they couldn't decide to go back to the boat on their own.

 

[txhorns79]

Just now, biakbiak said:

I don’t think she could have predicted that would have been their reaction just because Jemelle wasn’t there.

It was the talking heads, but I think if Kate gave her motivation.  She couldn't have predicted that Kevin would pick an extra awkward time to bring out the penis cake, but I think there were certainly ways she could have mitigated things and chose not to do so.  Again, I don't say that because I like Kevin, only to say that I think Kate was trying to mess with him.

[njbchlover]

Three word/phrases that I NEVER want to hear again:

OMG

bru/brus

Jiminy Cricket(s)

The only good thing I can say is that Ashton finally showed a tiny spark of maturity by keeping to himself and staying out of any finale party drama.  Something must have happened to make him steer clear and stay reasonably sober.

 

[biakbiak]

37 minutes ago, txhorns79 said:

but I think if Kate gave her motivatio

I don’t understand since the talking heads are filmed after and therefore she was commenting on how it worked out well but I don’t see how she would known they would react that way to the cake. 

Edited February 4, 2020 by biakbiak

[ParadoxLost]

8 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Weren’t those talking heads? I don’t think she could have predicted that would have been their reaction just because Jemelle wasn’t there.

I agree.  It seemed to me that Kate's prank was to have Kevin spend a lot of time on a cake the primary requested and wasn't there to fawn over.  Had he known that the primary wasn't there, he would have just decided whether he should still make the cake or do a less time consuming desert.  I don't think Kate or Kevin would have anticipated the reaction.

Edited February 4, 2020 by ParadoxLost

[The Ringo Kidd]

Simone said something that should be the motto for Below Deck.

”Kate is vile.”

[Lamima]

Sucker kicking (like sucker punching) sand in someone's face is vile!

[The Ringo Kidd]

Great tip by Jemele Hill. That was very nice of her.

[dosodog]

I think they were all vile in their own ways.

Some (the boys) more so than others.

I just want everybody to be new next year.  Or bring in Colin for no other reason then stress relief for some of us viewers.  Just have one token "positive stay out of the drama/dont be a dick" crew member.

Is that too much to ask?

 

[biakbiak]

1 minute ago, dosodog said:

year.  Or bring in Colin for no other reason then stress relief for some of us viewers.  Ju

The thought of his rapping gives me a lot of stress.

[pieinmyeye]

1 hour ago, PaperTree said:

Last Tuesday.

Thanks! So glad it was filmed after Captain Lee had a chance to see all the shit that happened this season!

[breezy424]

Nothing much to say.  These brus are such immature assholes. 

No.  You don't kick sand at anybody.  Well, maybe if you're six years old.  And it appears that Kate wears contacts.  That can be brutal if you get sand in an eye with a contact.

Go away Simone.  Use your math degree that you keep going on and  about.

Really Court?  You spent the night with that bru?

Sorry Kev.  You're not as good as you think you are.  Tom Cruise?????  Yeah.  Ok.

The reunion is going to be at least two parts because the listing show next Monday as Reunion part one.  It should be a doozy.

Edited February 4, 2020 by breezy424
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[The Ringo Kidd]

Kicking sand is a childish move for sure.

Letting your chef be humiliated while you laugh at him is a childish move.

Fighting with your subordinate when it is a lost cause is a childish move.

You need to be an adult. Do the thing that so many adults did when faced with this childish behavior. Say you are going out for a pack of cigarettes....and never come back.

[hoosiermommy]

1 hour ago, ParadoxLost said:

I agree.  It seemed to me that Kate's prank was to have Kevin spend a lot of time on a cake the primary requested and wasn't there to fawn over.  Had he known that the primary wasn't there, he would have just decided whether he should still make the cake or do a less time consuming desert.  I don't think Kate or Kevin would have anticipated the reaction.

I don’t think Kate anticipated her revenge to be Kevin presenting the cake to a table without the bachelorette, it just presented itself as an opportunity when Jamelle went to bed. I assume the cake wasn’t made while dinner was being served, therefore Kevin would have had to make it regardless. It wasn’t Kate’s fault he “wasted time”...it was already made before Jamelle decided to go to bed. 
 

I used to work with someone like him...everything was a personal attack. There was no such thing as an accident, it was all a coordinated effort to make her fail. Kevin is just like that.

Simone, you have no idea how young you look. Adopting the social strategy of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” leaves you looking gullible and vulnerable to unsavory people (Kevin).

Lindsey, I hope Brian did fall asleep. You were upholding the standard of intelligent womanhood. Don’t let me down girl! But her exit walk and the dog...I’ll forgive her pretty much anything.

Tanner, you are gross. I am sure your mother still loves you, but do you think she’s going to be proud to tell her friends about your appearance on this show? Because, bru, no. She’s not bragging about her horney, mean, drunk son’s 15 minutes of fame.

[Primetimer]

Just posted: Sarah's season-long power rankings
https://www.primetimer.com/features/below-deck-power-rankings-week-7-18-its-been-a-slice

[WaterSpirit]

2 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

I mean, I don't like Kevin, but Kate spoke a few times about getting Kevin back for calling her a dick by having him be embarrassed in front of the guests and captain.  She obviously didn't arrange for the primary to get drunk and go to bed, but she certainly had the opportunity to give him a head's up about the primary no longer being there. 

I found the season overall disappointing.  It was too much boys v. girls, and it felt a lot like the fun got sucked out of the show.   

I may be the only person here that dislikes the way Kate behaved this season. (and has never really been the Saint.) She was after Kevin all season because she took offense early on when there WAS an issue with service in the AM.  I'm not condoning the sand kick at all, but she is supposed to be a Leader, and she was the least mature of them all. The minute something did not go her way, it was ON.  (notice, we could have watched a lovefest if Kevin had just said she was a great Chief Stew...but since he gave his honest opinion, she started in on his food. Rinse and repeat each season...

She is at such low risk of getting called out by the boss (and I do like the Cap...) and she knows it.

Thanks for indulging me...just had to get my frustrations out. I have been with Below Deck from the beginning, 

good news is Below Deck Sailing Yacht looks pretty good! 

Cheers.

[scrb]

Kate wanted a fake goodbye from Kevin?

Like the one she gave to Ashton?

Paraphrasing Rhylee: “I’m proud of myself for my reserve this season.”

Wow, she was holding back?

[scrb]

2 hours ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

Simone said something that should be the motto for Below Deck.

”Kate is vile.”

Kate said to Simone “you did a great job this season” and Simone wasn’t buying it.

After putting her down all season, Kate expects Simone to buy her fake attempt at going out on a high note?

”Disingenuous” was a nice way to describe Kate’s behavior.  

Kate might find some New Yorkers will push back a lot more than she apparently thinks she deserves.

[biakbiak]

19 minutes ago, scrb said:

After putting her down all season, Kate expects Simone to buy her fake attempt at going out on a high note?

Kate actually complimented Simone multiple times this season when she actually did a good job like she has done with all the stews including Rocky, Caroline, and what’s her name from last year when they weren’t getting along.

Edited February 4, 2020 by biakbiak

[VagueDisclaimer]

28 minutes ago, scrb said:

Kate might find some New Yorkers will push back a lot more than she apparently thinks she deserves.

If we’re going to project speculation on NYers, I’m going to say that NYers aren’t waiting around for a gold star when it hasn’t been earned and they prefer actually learning by doing the work instead of complaining and they wouldn’t  jump every time a douche like Tanner told them to. So, really, I think Kate and NY will do just fine. 

ETA: Especially because living here involves a tougher skin and experience and knowing that a job is a job, a boss is a boss, you get what you bring to it and maybe if Simone had brought something besides expectations of others, she would’ve learned something. Fake compliments and niceties are the least of things, really, but I can see why that would be “vile” to someone likeSimone. 

Edited February 4, 2020 by VagueDisclaimer

[Lady of nod]

And the winner is Kate!

Bye Ashton. Maybe you can go back to stripping now that your BD career is dead.

Simone, someone somewhere needs a bubble head mathematician. Go find them.

Kevin , how do you like watching yourself getting completely shitfaced every time you drink? That will look great on your CV. The look on your face (and Kate's) when you served your dick cake - priceless. Oh and kicking sand in Kate's face? Class move dickhead.

Tanner - go home to Mommy - she's probably the only woman who finds you adorable. 

Brian, I had hope for you earlier in the season but you drank the bru brew  and look at you now.

Rhylee, I don't know how you managed to work with those assholes. They treated you like shit from day one thanks to Asston. I hope you get another chance at yachting with a crew that respects the hard worker that you are. I didn't always like you, but you've got grit girl.

Good job Courtney. 

Captain Lee - always a class act  Love you.

 

[biakbiak]

17 hours ago, ParadoxLost said:

agree.  It seemed to me that Kate's prank was to have Kevin spend a lot of time on a cake the primary requested and wasn't there to fawn over

I thought the “prank” part of it was that she told him to set it in front of Captain Lee who than stated he wasn’t going to eat it. Kate wasn’t out there when the conversation “got deep”, quotes because it wasn’t that deep. Particularly on this episode you see that the guests didn’t really have a problem with it and actually enjoyed the cake that he had already made when they ate it. Was he going to serve at breakfast when it Jemelle was up? Kevin choosing to be crazy upset about it was on him. 

I really need Kevin to explain how he thinks Kate has checked out because it seems to come up when he decides something without her or changes something after they have talked that he bitches about it but none of the guests have complained about the service and he checks in and out of what he expects from her. She has also praised him to guests and multiple times cheerleadered  him.

Brian seems to want to dictate how women should react which shows why he is also a problematic asshat like all the others.

i totally think that if Tanner had booty texted Simone after Kate had rejected him she would have responded.

Edited February 4, 2020 by biakbiak

[elsie]

Courtney was my favorite this season and Brian's abs were my second, so it was kind of cool to have the former lead the latter into one of the guest rooms to spend the last night together with seemingly no strings attached.

 

It is my sincere hope that the footage from this year follows Ashton around for every job he ever applies for...he should never be put in any position of authority or power over others. He has clearly shown that he cannot handle it.

Edited February 4, 2020 by elsie

[biakbiak]

48 minutes ago, elsie said:

 

Courtney was my favorite this season and Brian's abs were my second, so it was kind of cool to have the former lead the latter into one of the guest rooms to spend the last night together with seemingly no strings attached.

 

 

 

This is what I am so excited about at the reunion because even before the season fully aired they did not like each other on SM. She also never confirmed they had sex but even if they did the fact that he immediately told Ashton (and Tanner) time and time again that he also shared their business.

[Baltimore Betty]

4 hours ago, Lady of nod said:

4 hours ago, Lady of nod said:

Brian, I had hope for you earlier in the season but you drank the bru brew  and look at you now.

 

If Dr. Seuss was a blogger for Below Deck he would have totally written that sentence!

[metalchik]

6 hours ago, WaterSpirit said:

I may be the only person here that dislikes the way Kate behaved this season. (and has never really been the Saint.) She was after Kevin all season because she took offense early on when there WAS an issue with service in the AM.  I'm not condoning the sand kick at all, but she is supposed to be a Leader, and she was the least mature of them all. The minute something did not go her way, it was ON.  (notice, we could have watched a lovefest if Kevin had just said she was a great Chief Stew...but since he gave his honest opinion, she started in on his food. Rinse and repeat each season...

She is at such low risk of getting called out by the boss (and I do like the Cap...) and she knows it.

Nope...I'm right there with you.  Her leadership skills are severely lacking.  Yeah I know the guys were pretty immature and insulting but this is not the first charter that she's been on constant bitch mode.  She likes to criticize others but can't take it when anything is said towards her.  Honestly, I think it's time she moves on to something else.  

[pasdetrois]

Everyone was too exhausted and depressed to bring the drama at the moon party. Same with the goodbyes. This season was horrible and just kind of limped to a finish.

Interesting that Kate flipped off the camera crew as she sashayed into a guest room after the moon party. If Kate leaves the series, I'll wonder if she jumped or was pushed.

Moving to NYC from Florida is a very big change, especially financially. I assume she has something big lined up.

[txhorns79]

5 hours ago, Lady of nod said:

Kevin , how do you like watching yourself getting completely shitfaced every time you drink? That will look great on your CV. The look on your face (and Kate's) when you served your dick cake - priceless. Oh and kicking sand in Kate's face? Class move dickhead.

I did wonder how he was going to explain his behavior to his family.  I mean, for all his talk about his daughter, I'm trying to imagine what she might think seeing her drunken father parading naked around the crew level of the ship. 

[nokat]

11 hours ago, whydoievencare said:

Clearly Kevin is his own biggest fan

There was a moment earlier in the season where he said something like "I don't expect a pat on the back." I thought of course not, you're too busy patting your own back.
 

[Lamima]

1 hour ago, txhorns79 said:

I did wonder how he was going to explain his behavior to his family.  I mean, for all his talk about his daughter, I'm trying to imagine what she might think seeing her drunken father parading naked around the crew level of the ship. 

And at end he said he was going to go on a vacation with his daughter. I think he may have even said to the beach cause I said, out loud, so he can kick sand in her face. 

Those power rankings or whatever they're called...I'd switch out Tanner with Kevin. I think Asston was #1 dickhead and Kevin was #2. Those 2 were aggressively violent.

Edited February 4, 2020 by Lamima