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1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:

I still don't understand why they made the choice they made before trying to scrub her clean and gaslight the viewers into believing that Ava is the bad guy.

This is what perplexes me. Eva LaRue is not some unknown who caught on with the fans, causing the show to frantically backpedal. She's an established soap actor. Why did they come in so hot and ugly with her character? This fakakta show, man.

Not that it matters, but

Sam shot Shiloh with a flare gun, and he's presumed dead.

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Today's show:

Just in case anyone was wondering who we are supposed to root for, the show opens with Drew and Willow sexy times while Michael burn. Subtle, Frank, subtle.

Willow:  I'm thinking about what comes next. Me: Maybe you should have done that before sleeping with Drew again.

Brennan to Carly:  Joss is a strong/smart person.  Carly replies: She is. (I would have said 'thank you' for the compliment but hey, I'm not Carly.)

Also Carly, insisting that Lucas come out and talk to her when he's working on Michael.

Lucas:  "You have to page Dr. Gannon immediately."  Portia:  "I'll find him."  Huh? Instead of paging the transplant surgeon for a burn victim (!), Portia is going to run all over the hospital looking for him. Portia, you suck. And not just as a Chief of Staf f.

Nina has been making bad decisions but at least she's smart enough to know that revealing Drew will hurt Willow more.

Brook Lynn, just tell Chase about your previous pregnancy.

Port Charles, lowering the country's IQ average.

 

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Bringonthedrama

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14 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

I just call them Drewll. Which often precedes vomit. (Especially in this case.)

Yeah, that was my reaction when I had really bad timing today and tuned in as they were guilt-free in bed together. Willow: "In a perfect world, we would be together." Girl, you need lots of therapy STAT.

Also BLQ and Lois are acknowledging - SHOCKER - that BLQ was pregnant in the past unintentionally. She's getting all emotional that she's not pregnant yet when they've been trying for what, 2 months at the most? Her angst and "I can't tell my husband nowwww that I've been pregnant before" is so OTT. She sounds like she's scared to tell him she wasn't a virgin when they got married. At least Lois has some sense in her brain.

Here's a thought - you're newlyweds without a baby right now, how about you finally go on that honeymoon to Italy you were so excited about?! Sheesh.

"Nina, what Willow and I do is none of your business." He's such a slime ball; glad Nina was able to shut him down and get her on the phone. Hopefully his sexual relationship with Nina gets outed soon. Willow looks so pathetic and naive. 

Surgeon Lucas working on his nephew Michael and delivering the news to the family makes me roll my eyes. Carly, looking at your brother like you're going to bite his head off if you don't get the positive news you want is not helping. 

From mid-nose to his hair including his eyes, Michael wasn't burned at all? Oh please.

 

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30 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Lucas:  "You have to page Dr. Gannon immediately."  Portia:  "I'll find him."  Huh? Instead of paging the transplant surgeon for a burn victim (!), Portia is going to run all over the hospital looking for him. Portia, you suck. And not just as a Chief of Staf f.

Then she jumps at the chance to call Curtis as a way for the show to tell Nina => Willow.

I know Laura Wright will ace the angst scenes. I’m just not interested.

Same with the “my womb” scenes. Brooklyn is not married to some *sshat, Chase is adorable. I hate that the recon is making her lie to him because it makes no damn sense.

Ah oh, I have a baby in my womb, so I’ll swoon making sandwiches. Surprised the look of food didn’t make her barf.

It would be funny if Chase found out about Sasha’s current pregnancy before Brooklyn’s past one.

Show is making Brennan interact more and more with Joss. After Anna’s overreaction to him talking to Emma, I wonder if something will develop there.

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MarciNJ

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36 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Surgeon Lucas working on his nephew Michael and delivering the news to the family makes me roll my eyes.

Oh, FFS - is he the only surgeon in that hospital?  Why does he keep working on family members??  At least Sam signed a waiver; unlikely that Michael did, or anyone on his behalf (I'm 2 weeks behind, so I could be wrong about this)

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dubbel zout

dubbel zout

1 minute ago, statsgirl said:

Drew and Willow sexy times

Of course her underwear is white. She's no harlot in red or black lingerie!

"I'm just thinking about what comes next." "You mean when we get back to Port Charles?" Drew, you're a congressman. Your job right now is in D.C. He should be a NYS rep if the show wants him in PC all the time. If he were my congressperson and spent all of his time banging his nephew's wife and doing no legislative work, I'd want a recall election, stat.

Also, Willow, you are acting on your feelings for Drew by sleeping with him. WTF?

Uh-oh. Jason's gonna be mad when he hears he's not the strongest, steadiest person Carly knows, Joss is. LOL. Those salads Carly and Jack had looked really good.

"Somebody tried to take you out, and Michael paid the price!" Carly, you forgot to say "Again!" Remember when he was shot because someone was aiming for Kate, who was with Sonny in the warehouse?

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5 minutes ago, MarciNJ said:

Oh, FFS - is he the only surgeon in that hospital?  Why does he keep working on family members??  At least Sam signed a waiver; unlikely that Michael did, or anyone on his behalf (I'm 2 weeks behind, so I could be wrong about this)

He called Carly to cancel their meal plans (prior to Michael being rushed to the hospital), saying he was covering for Dr Whatever their name is. I doubt Sonny or Jason signed a waiver. 

The mean part of me wants someone to ask Carly if she's going to send Donna away to military school like she did with Morgan, the first time Michael was critically wounded.  I assume her response is she's going to sue for full custody of Donna, Wiley and Amelia. 

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1 hour ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Also BLQ and Lois are acknowledging - SHOCKER - that BLQ was pregnant in the past unintentionally. She's getting all emotional that she's not pregnant yet when they've been trying for what, 2 months at the most? Her angst and "I can't tell my husband nowwww that I've been pregnant before" is so OTT

I could have sworn that her one night stand with Valentin back in 2021, after the Nurses Ball resulted in a pregnancy? But she miscarried offscreensville? She was played by a temp at the time, but when Setton returned, it was with a fake pregnancy belly. Guess they forgot about that or I'm misremembering the miscarriage part and her shock at the pregnancy test was it being negative?

Never change, Show.

13 minutes ago, ljr said:

I hope they dont kill off another one of Carly’s kids.

The SLS NEEDS to DIE!DIE!DIE! but he won't. Per Frank, and as has been stated upthread and in the media thread, Frank isn't going to recast, but hold the place open in case Chad Duell changes his mind about quitting and returns to the role.

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6 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I could have sworn that her one night stand with Valentin back in 2021, after the Nurses Ball resulted in a pregnancy? But she miscarried offscreensville? She was played by a temp at the time, but when Setton returned, it was with a fake pregnancy belly. Guess they forgot about that or I'm misremembering the miscarriage part and her shock at the pregnancy test was it being negative?

Yeah, she was never pregnant.  They never showed her take the pregnancy test, just showed her having one in her bag.  Next time we saw her she was wearing the fake belly.

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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

2 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I could have sworn that her one night stand with Valentin back in 2021, after the Nurses Ball resulted in a pregnancy? But she miscarried offscreensville? She was played by a temp at the time, but when Setton returned, it was with a fake pregnancy belly. Guess they forgot about that or I'm misremembering the miscarriage part and her shock at the pregnancy test was it being negative?

Never change, Show.

No, Setton came back with the fake pregnancy belly because the temp BLQ had a ONS with Valentin and she thought she could con him/fix past mistakes re: family. I don't remember any references to her actually being pregnant and having a miscarriage.

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absnow54

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35 minutes ago, MarciNJ said:

Oh, FFS - is he the only surgeon in that hospital?  Why does he keep working on family members??  At least Sam signed a waiver; unlikely that Michael did, or anyone on his behalf (I'm 2 weeks behind, so I could be wrong about this)

In Lucas’s defense, he is a trauma surgeon, and getting burned alive isn’t something one usually plans in advance. 

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I hate to say it, but Curtis made some sense talking Nina out of flying down to DC to drag Willow back.

GH doesn't even pretend to have a real ER - everyone with any issue just shows up in the lobby. 

Dr. Gannon's experience in troubled locations that don't have many doctors makes him uniquely qualified to fit in at GH where every doctor handles every kind of situation - transplant? check! heart attack? check! skin problem? check! and now - severe burns! check!

Now Willow considers that her liaison with Drew could be a political scandal?? While this kind of thing has happened before (John Edwards, for example), it doesn't typically end well for the politician, although there are always a few who seem to be immune. 

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Isaiah must be wondering if Lucas will turn out to be related to all of his patients.  Having said that, when you're the trauma surgeon in house, you take care of whoever comes in, as quickly as possible, and worry about relationships later.  No need for waivers if the patient doesn't survive.

I noticed that Brennan knew exactly where to find Joss, and I wonder how.  I also wonder if he brought her to GH, not just to be with Carly in a time of crisis, but because he thinks she might also be a target.  

So, did the mother of the year leave her children unattended in a hotel room?  Or is there a nanny?  And where is Scout?

I kind of like the Sasha who dispenses wise advice from her kitchen kingdom.  She's a good listener and manages to be nonjudgmental.  I hope the making public of her pregnancy doesn't force her to leave that setting.

Chase has already remarked to Brooklyn that she's never been pregnant before, and she didn't choose to correct him in the moment, which is going to make the inevitable disclosure more challenging to their relationship.

 

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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

20 minutes ago, JMO said:

So, did the mother of the year leave her children unattended in a hotel room?  Or is there a nanny?  And where is Scout?

She said she needed to get back to her room because Wiley could wake up. Amelia didn't come to DC with them. 

I guess Willow never heard of the McCann Family's vacation story; little Madeline was kidnapped from her bed while the parents were out to dinner with other adults/parents. She vanished sometime in between the adults taking turns checking on the kids.  She was never seen again, although I think eventually someone sort of confessed to her murder?  

 

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Auntie Velvet

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1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

Drew, you're a congressman. Your job right now is in D.C. He should be a NYS rep if the show wants him in PC all the time. If he were my congressperson and spent all of his time banging his nephew's wife and doing no legislative work, I'd want a recall election, stat.

Even as a US congressperson, he would have both an office in his home district, and an office at the Capitol. The show goes back and forth on how much time he could feasibly be in Port Charles, but it seems to me the real answer is a lot. (Although, granted, "in real life" early January is kind of a busy time.)

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ciarra

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2 hours ago, ljr said:

I’m  not believing this Brooklyn gave up

a baby nonsense. How did she keep it from her own family? How did she keep it a secret from her Bensonhurst neighbors? 

Lois must know, because the anvils were dropping when Ned and Brooklyn wouldn't tell about Drillow because Lois can't keep a secret.  I think they were wink wink, nudge nudge, Lois can keep a secret because she never told about bland boy Gio being Brookie's kid.

YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

Michael burning alive while Willow was riding Drew wasn't telegraphed at all by the writers as to who the audience should hate. Honestly, it's too bad that I hate Drew so damn much.

So somehow, Sidwell's men got passed Sonny's security to plant a ticking bomb in his living room. Me think Sidwell paid someone in Sonny's organization to do the deed.

Willow is about to be branded with the scarlet letter.

BLQ's woe is me is just really annoying. Should've told your husband the truth. I had a baby when I was a teenager, I gave them up.

Sake614

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Still catching up on my reading here but I do wish when Carly told Sonny today that someone was trying to take him out and Michael paid the price, that she had added AGAIN. Because this is at least the 2nd time it’s happened. Of course if Carly really cared, she would have kept the kid away from Sonny before he was shot the first time.

ETA: that whole ‘Michael on fire’ scene was the lamest thing I’ve seen on this show. They couldn’t afford a stunt man to actually appear to be on fire? The cgi flames were ridiculous as is the notion that he sustained 3rd degree burns on 40% of his body. Only one side of him was on fire and it barely even touched his clothes never mind burned through them. 

Drillow sex?  Zzzzzzzzz. And I swear if CM puts his damn hand over his heart one more time I’m going to drive a stake through it. Enough already! ‘But I WUV you! I’d do anything for you. I don’t care about my congressional seat that I just won. I’ll leave it all behind if it means being with you.’ There are not enough 🤮 to adequately express my feelings for this ‘super couple in the making.’

at least Lucas told Isiah that Michael is his nephew and that’s why he couldn’t take charge of the situation but would stay in the room and oversee treatment. But I had to laugh when he told Portia to get Isiah. My immediate thought was ‘does Michael need a transplant? If not, why are you calling for a transplant surgeon?’

so finally the big sekrit comes out that BL was preggers in HS. While she was a camp counselor. With Dante and Cody, who she never set eyes on before he arrived in PC but suddenly Knows from camp. Which means in all likelihood GIOLIN is her long lost kid and Dante is the father. None of which make any sense but clearly Frank doesn’t care. Speaking of the violin prodigy, where has he been for the past two weeks? I don’t miss him but he’s supposed to be such an integral part of the show, I’d expect to see him more.

Lucky has also been MIA since Christmas Eve.

back to todays show, why couldn’t Drew have spontaneously combusted? I have no love for Michael but Drew deserves to DIAF long before Michael.

Previews for Friday. Jason tells Sonny that it’s more impressive than ever to find Sonny an exit strategy. I wish I could believe that Sonny actually would leave the bidness and take a step back from being the Latin Casanova because he’s at least 10 years past his prime. But I don’t trust Frank to do that.

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1 hour ago, Sake614 said:

ETA: that whole ‘Michael on fire’ scene was the lamest thing I’ve seen on this show. They couldn’t afford a stunt man to actually appear to be on fire? The cgi flames were ridiculous as is the notion that he sustained 3rd degree burns on 40% of his body. Only one side of him was on fire and it barely even touched his clothes never mind burned through them.

They definitely used a real stuntman on fire. You could see the thick layer of ointment they use to protect skin during Monday’s episode. 

I did notice the Quartermaine fireplace had an actual fire in it, which made me wonder if they had excess fire left in their budget that needed to be repurposed. 

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Michael's face is still pretty visible and I don't think there were any 3rd degree burns that would explain a new Michael's face if CD doesn't return to GH. If a nu-Michael shows up, everyone will recognize him as Michael. The show should go see what Drew Garrett is doing because I loved his version of Michael.

If Ava was in Nina's shoes, she would have sent the reporters to Drew's hotel in DC. Still remember when Ava in a fit of jealousy trying to blow up Kiki's sexual harassment suit.

I know Carly found out to the restaurant worker talking about the fire and Jack tracked down Joss but that was so silly. This is not 1875* as Sonny/Jason could have called them on their cellphone

*The phone was invented in 1876

Auntie Velvet

Auntie Velvet

@ciarra mentioned the other day that Drew's suite had Q throw pillows, etc.

In today's episode I noticed that what to me is an ICONIC piece of art from the mansion's breakfast room was over the suite's bed. I didn't grab a screenshot because I was shooketh, but I'm sure we'll see next episode when the lovers are hand-wringing over Michael. 

Suicidy

Suicidy

On 1/7/2025 at 2:04 PM, ciarra said:

Where did she get a sniper gun from so quickly?  Was it in her carry on luggage?

The WSB probably has a facility in Prague.  That wouldn’t be an unreasonable assumption.

7 hours ago, DanaK said:

And we have a pre-emption tomorrow (Thursday) with Pres. Carter’s memorial

AGAIN?  Wasn’t that Tuesday?

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Suicidy

Suicidy

1 hour ago, MissPriss said:

Thanks for the explanation. I just assumed slimy little shit.😂

They both work.

On 1/7/2025 at 4:13 PM, dubbel zout said:

Brad has always owned (albeit after the fact) that he has atrocious judgement, but he means it and he's paid the price. That's one of the things I really like about him. He'll make excuses in the moment, but when he knows he's done wrong, he admits it.

He also never murdered anyone, or ran a drug trafficking operation.  Brad is. Mostly just weak, and panics in tense situations, but he’s not cruel or malignant.  And really, he’s a lot better person than more than half of the other characters who are judging him.  He’s just less popular than they are.

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