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Culture Check: How can we discuss a character's or actor's appearance without objectifying them? How can we express likes or dislikes and still respect an individual's humanity or be mindful that a character represents a person someone else might relate to or identify with?

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1 hour ago, TVbitch said:

Um, was Cody doing a Slingblade impression at the end of his WTF looney toons performance for Dante, cuz I actually cracked up. ...but he's still an idiot ...and I still hate him.

I think JY was ad-libbing when he mouthed to KW about Tracy stealing his pineapple, cuz she was really cracking up. Cute. WTF with Brooklyn getting Tracy drunk, then being annoyed Tracy was drunk. 

I think Cody was doing a Beetlejuice impression. Dante was hilarious with him. 

So was Mac's pineapple comment. 

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On 8/14/2023 at 4:03 PM, Auntie Velvet said:

All this time I've been picturing Austin and Mason's scary "queenpin" auntie as some countrified, Margo Martindale type straight out of Justified, and now they're switching genders to make it Cyrus or whoever? Dammit.

I was really hoping Anna was weeping over her framed corgi photo. By the way, if Valentine did this just to make her move to a more secure location, that's so lame. But if he's been behind ALL of the terrorizing, and he's really out for revenge, long-con style, I'll actually have a little respect for that.

 

It could also be the unnamed people Cyrus was working for when he moved into Sonny’s territory.  We never heard any more about that.

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4 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Esme is also college age, also abandoned, and is working a fulltime job unlike Spencer who is free all day and living off his trust fund. Since Spencer was determined  to take Ace away from Esme completely, helping with the baby seems like the least that he could do.

Yes, but Esme is the baby's mother. And considering all the shit that Esme encouraged Spencer to do, I don't entirely blame him for not wanting Ace with her. I don't mind when people who aren't the bio parent are given credit for being devoted to kids, like Mac or Bobbie. (Except for that child stealing Sonny, fuck him) Spencer could have easily used some of that trust fund to hire a nanny and not do any work, but has decided to be hands on, so it more than spite with Spencer. Now, if a parent does seem being doing a good job, especially with little help, like Liz, they should also get praise. One of my peeves with this show is that more people didn't give Luke a lot more shit for dumping Lulu on her aging and formally canatoic grandmother Leslie. 

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1 hour ago, Ambrosefolly said:

Spencer could have easily used some of that trust fund to hire a nanny and not do any work, but has decided to be hands on, so it more than spite with Spencer.

That was his plan, to take the baby away from Esme and hire a nanny. He was foiled by Laura who felt that the baby should stay with Esme as she was taking good care of him.  Spencer is good with Ace now. butBut his original intentions weren't.

5 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

  But every time , it was a transaction as terrible as that might sound when we're dealing with babies.  They get the children they want, the surogate gets paid for her service.  

If Molly is as smart as everyone says she is, she would realize that a surrogate who is doing it entirely as a financial transaction is more likely to stay away after the baby is born than one who is doing it from love.

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26 minutes ago, fishsanwitt said:

I thought Cody was grossly overacting, going nuts in the interview room. Then, finally, I got it - Cody is trying to get committed. It took me forever to get it, though. D'oh.

Same! I was like "this guy is a really bad actor." lol.

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Molly has turned into the biggest brat and why neither Alexis or Sam called her out on her outrageous behavior of not inviting Kristina to her big reveal lunch is not making her any more likable.  Also, there’s no way this whole surrogacy isn’t ending badly.  

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This episode was one of a handful that did not have a certain segment of Port Charles.  Much more pleasurable to watch.  Not a fan of the new writers and the old writers treatment of Tracy, but just grateful to see her on the screen.  It is enjoyable watching new actors try to craft their characters and Cody, Kristina, and Jordan are doing a good job of meshing in. 

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On 8/16/2023 at 4:53 PM, Bunnyto4 said:

"Yeah, you know those visiting psychiatrists think they run the place." Actually, it seems like fucking Gladys Corbin is running Ferncliff, the PCPD and "Dr" Montague. I can't wait to see the back of this really distasteful storyline. Every time Montague shows up in Sasha's room with a syringe, I'm afraid it will be the end of her. Further, should we even be watching the show now that they've clearly run out of episodes in the can? As a union person, I'm feeling kind of scabby about it. Thoughts, friends?🤔

They’re on a different contract.  It’s not up til next year.

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8 hours ago, statsgirl said:

If Molly is as smart as everyone says she is, she would realize that a surrogate who is doing it entirely as a financial transaction is more likely to stay away after the baby is born than one who is doing it from love.

IIRC, all the interviewees mentioned money.  the third was just the most honest about it.  I like Molly, but does she really think that people want to line up to rent out their bodies for 9 months and create a baby just to give away for funsies?

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I am not happy to say that watching Betty's scenes makes me realize how badly we were robbed of a (probably)  perfect NuMolly.   I feel bad saying it because NuMolly's brother went online to defend her, and I thought "aw, her brother loves her".  And you know, that's so sweet.  But this isn't the role for her unfortunately.  Doesn't mean there isn't a right role for her, but this isn't it.  

My unpopular opinion here: I freaking LOVE Cody!  I don't think my opinion is that unpopular in the wider fandom, but I think it is here.  LOL

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I think the issue with the 3rd woman was that she appeared to want them to keep paying her even after the baby arrives. She said something about ‘until I get my pre-baby body back.’ And because she needs the money so badly, she was likely to find various ‘health’ reasons why they would have to continue paying her medical bills indefinitely. I have no issue with her asking for money, but trying to use TJ and Molly as a cash cow was likely very off putting. 

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I thought the scene between Finn and Gregory at the end of Thursday's episode was well done. Finn asked him if his slowness was because of tiredness or "something else" and Gregory took several seconds to answer, pondering whether he should dismiss it as nothing or finally tell his son the truth, and then told the truth. Kudos to both actors

In the scenes with the Molly, Sam, Jordan and Alexis, I kept wondering why Jordan was there as I forgot in the moment that her son is married to Molly

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Parent/son conversation day: Gregory tells Finn about his diagnosis, Eddy confronts Tracy about wanting to have him committed. I know that I was supposed to have all the feels with Gregory and Finn but I just couldn't get into it.

I also couldn't get into Anna/Valentin and the information that Valentin wasn't at ELQ.

Sonny telling Carly that the look on her face is all the thanks he needs is 🤮

Molly just gets worse and worse. If she was worried that Kristina would make a scene because they are going with a paid surrogate, then tell Kristina before the dinner and let her decide if she wanted to come. Kristina was right that Molly is insecure and self-centred.

Alexis doesn't know that Kristina wasn't invited. Now that Sam does, "good mother" Sam should be reading Molly for filth if she was any kind of a good sister rather than feeling good about being asked to be the baby's godmother.

1 hour ago, Sake614 said:

And because she needs the money so badly, she was likely to find various ‘health’ reasons why they would have to continue paying her medical bills indefinitely. I have no issue with her asking for money, but trying to use TJ and Molly as a cash cow was likely very off putting. 

That's an assumption that TJ and Molly made. There are legal contracts, as Molly keeps saying. I don't think that it's unreasonable for the surrogate to ask if they will be paying medical costs even after the baby is born, there are a number of physical conditions that can happen to the woman because of a pregnancy that require medical intervention or repair.

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Michael Easton does not do shocked face successfully, at least not when it's supposed to be serious. That said, I liked the rest of the scene. They didn't spend  time on the dumb stuff (the estrangement, thinking the family couldn't handle it) and discussed the more practical side of it. 

I don't care that Valentin's car wasn't at ELQ either. 

It's good Kristina and Molly got stuff out, even if things were said crudely (if accurately).

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Sam and Dante spent today recapping 3 other SLs that we just saw. They’re seriously struggling with giving them a purpose beyond talk tos and props. 
 

Hasn’t Valentin been lying to Anna about something or other since they hooked up? I recall that she forced Lucy into that Victor plan because she was trying to suss out what Valentin was doing with him so I’m not sure why she’s acting so betrayed that he’s not telling her what he’s up to now. I think their partnerships only work 1 way. 

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2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Michael Easton does not do shocked face successfully, at least not when it's supposed to be serious. That said, I liked the rest of the scene.

Lol! I have been watching Finns face closely lately, after I wrote on here that I call him Zoolander because his go to look is ALWAYS to purse his lips. I think maybe someone reads this forum and mentioned it to him, and probably razz him backstage about it, because i see him trying not to purse his lips every time he finishes a sentence now. He was going through facial acrobatics during that scene with his father today, trying desperately to stop himself from pursing his lips, if anyone else noticed. 🤣😂
 

edited to add: I think Michael is Gorgeous! And doesn’t need to purse his beautiful lips for any scene, ever. 

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5 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Molly just gets worse and worse. If she was worried that Kristina would make a scene because they are going with a paid surrogate, then tell Kristina before the dinner and let her decide if she wanted to come. Kristina was right that Molly is insecure and self-centred.

And the way she's acting, I don't believe her that she was "going to tell you tomorrow."  If anything, she should've told her BEFORE the "big announcement."  Molly is acting like such an asshole.

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On 8/17/2023 at 8:21 AM, dubbel zout said:

I’m getting chemo now at a major cancer center, and maybe 10 percent of everyone I am in contact with is masked. There is no mask requirement for the outpatient building (where I am), so very few people mask up. I can’t understand it. I mask. I have enough to worry about.

I'm getting chemo too right now and the nurses and I mask up each time they access my port but otherwise only some of the patients wear masks and otherwise no one is masked. I guess at this point its up to the individual to ascertain their own risk and take steps accordingly, but you would think Willow, whose immune system was just wiped out *on purpose* so she could get the bone marrow transplant, would obviously choose to wear an N95 at least. (Actually if I were her, I'd be reluctant to wander around any medical facility with all those floating viruses and germs...). Fortunately my kind of chemo is not the kind they give you before a transplant! 😺

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13 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

And the way she's acting, I don't believe her that she was "going to tell you tomorrow."  If anything, she should've told her BEFORE the "big announcement."  Molly is acting like such an asshole.

Right?!?!? Molly is just a straight bitch now. There is nothing likeable about this character. This personality transplant and recast have ruined Molly. You're right. A mature person would have told Kristina first, but I hate that they have Kristina caring. Why isn't she acknowledging that Molly doesn't like her? lol

Molly behaves like Kristina is dirt under her shoe. She's so patronizing and condescending to her. I didn't like her "pie in the sky" comment! It was cruel for no reason. And she acts like she hates Kristina. It's very odd b/c the OGs were not presented this way. 

This nuMolly is obnoxious, hateful, cold, jealous, and mean! I really cannot stand her. I  just wish they would show Kristina not caring about her and not going to her house to talk to her. Screw her! And if Tolly came a-calling to ask me to be their surrogate, it would be a quick NO. 

@DanaK - Haha! I'm glad it was not just me who forgot that Jordan was TJ's mother! LOL! When Molly said she had family news to share, I was thinking, "Jordan, shouldn't you excuse yourself?" LOL! 

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7 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Michael Easton does not do shocked face successfully, at least not when it's supposed to be serious. That said, I liked the rest of the scene. They didn't spend  time on the dumb stuff (the estrangement, thinking the family couldn't handle it) and discussed the more practical side of it. 

I thought those were really excellent scenes

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7 hours ago, ffwbe said:

Sam and Dante spent today recapping 3 other SLs that we just saw. They’re seriously struggling with giving them a purpose beyond talk tos and props. 

It's a good thing Sam had to pee so that Dante could jump out of bed and call Anna about Valentine's lies. 

Speaking of Sam, and Anna (and even Lulu, back in the day), their nightwear is really "not in the mood" frumpy.  At least Sam's nightshirt isn't black.

Carly, "Kelly's is doing great.  No "For Sale" sign on the lawn at the house"

Me:  Bowl of Kelly's Chili Con Carne, $5,000,000.00. 

I also wondered why Jordan was invited to the family party. 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

And the way she's acting, I don't believe her that she was "going to tell you tomorrow."  If anything, she should've told her BEFORE the "big announcement."  Molly is acting like such an asshole.

No she wasn't. If TJ hadn't told Kristina, then Kristina wouldn't have found out or would have found out from Alexis and Sam, who really need to read Molly for filth, the both of them. 

Molly's behavior has been horrible since she heard Kristina's suggestion to be their surrogate. This whole surrogacy thing is probably to blow up in her face, so I hope everyone has the patience as we weed through crap over the coming year.

Molly insisting that the baby will hers and TJ's and Sam bringing up the Lulu/Dante surrogacy and what Maxie did does not bode well.

8 hours ago, DanaK said:

I thought those were really excellent scenes

I thought they were good too, especially the way they ended. I found them to be realistic, unlike what they did with Willow's cancer story.

I felt that they raised the stakes the way they made the reveal and Gregory asking Finn to help him break the news to Chase was just really sad. Finn is a doctor, so him asking questions and trying to gauge if the diagnosis was wrong made a lot of sense. He is a stoic character and ended up showing more emotion than I've ever seen out of him. So I'm sure Chase will take it a lot harder. 

So I think it was well done. 

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Yes, I thought so too.  I actually found those scenes very affecting.  I felt the doom in Finn when Gregory said "it's ALS".  Even Finn can't help him.  I was also moved over Gregory's worry about the affect watching him die will have on Violet.  Those are things you do think about.  One of the best and most realistically moving scenes on GH in a while for me. 

As for Molly - Bah!  The opposite of moving.  I hope Kristina takes her man. 

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On 8/18/2023 at 9:11 AM, CeChase said:

My unpopular opinion here: I freaking LOVE Cody!  I don't think my opinion is that unpopular in the wider fandom, but I think it is here.  LOL

I have found him more tolerable in his current storyline with Sasha. 

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1 hour ago, DanaMB said:

I have found him more tolerable in his current storyline with Sasha. 

Yep, me too. Not to say I'd miss him if he were gone, but this storyline has saved him from being a total nothingburger of a character. I find myself rooting for him, especially since all of Sasha's other friends are content to stand around fretting how strange this is without actually doing anything. The cynic in me is hoping that saving Cody from the junk heap wasn't the sole purpose of the Sasha!Torture porn story, but...

Note to Show: Enough with the Sasha!Torture. It's been way, way too much. I now actively want Gladys feeling Sonny's wrath.

I'm also now actively hating nunuMolly and nuKristina, and their personality transplants. Molly has definitely handled this all wrong with regards to Kristina, but also, no means no, Kristina, no matter how hard you think talking at her will change her mind. (Note to Kristina: It's also not just Molly who didn't want you as their surrogate.) Calling Molly self-centered seemed rich to me, from Kristina, because hello? It's their choice, Kristina. They're obviously not without other options, and if Kristina can't foresee the difficulties of having her be Molly's child's biological mother, just... wow.

That said, this storyline and Curtis are now can't be fast forwarded fast enough material for me.

10 hours ago, ciarra said:

Bowl of Kelly's Chili Con Carne, $5,000,000.00. 

Erm, how much without carne? And beans?

Note to Carly: You do know that every penny that comes into Kelly's does not go directly into your pocket, right? Right?

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15 hours ago, isalicat said:

I guess at this point its up to the individual to ascertain their own risk and take steps accordingly, but you would think Willow, whose immune system was just wiped out *on purpose* so she could get the bone marrow transplant, would obviously choose to wear an N95 at least. (Actually if I were her, I'd be reluctant to wander around any medical facility with all those floating viruses and germs...).

I know! Willow wasn't just immunocompromised, she had no immune system at all! I'd at least like to see her holding a mask or something. But then again, her whole story was handled stupidly, so it's not as if this is unexpected.

Solidarity in chemo, @isalicat! I hope your side effects are minimal and can be controlled.

14 hours ago, lala2 said:

@DanaK - Haha! I'm glad it was not just me who forgot that Jordan was TJ's mother! LOL! When Molly said she had family news to share, I was thinking, "Jordan, shouldn't you excuse yourself?" LOL! 

Same here, ha! 

1 hour ago, Fellaway said:

Note to Carly: You do know that every penny that comes into Kelly's does not go directly into your pocket, right? Right?

I wouldn't be so sure. This is the nitwit who thought she and Drew shouldn't be charged with insider trading because no one made money. 

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I’m never going to stop clowning the show for suggesting that Carly can quickly make millions from a single small town diner. Of all the unbelievable things that have happened on this show, that has to be one of the worst. So is Bobbie a near billionaire because she’s owned that place for decades. Like it’s ok for characters to fall off their pedestal and become middle class. There’s no reason Carly has to live in what’s probably the 3rd largest home on the show (assuming the Q mansion and Wyndemere are bigger mansions) considering others who have way more money than her live in modest places

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2 hours ago, Fellaway said:

Erm, how much without carne? And beans?

Note to Carly: You do know that every penny that comes into Kelly's does not go directly into your pocket, right? Right?

No difference. At Kelly's the price isn't determined by the cost of the ingredients, but by how much Carly feels you owe her for giving you some of her attention.

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41 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

I’m never going to stop clowning the show for suggesting that Carly can quickly make millions from a single small town diner. Of all the unbelievable things that have happened on this show, that has to be one of the worst. So is Bobbie a near billionaire because she’s owned that place for decades. Like it’s ok for characters to fall off their pedestal and become middle class. There’s no reason Carly has to live in what’s probably the 3rd largest home on the show (assuming the Q mansion and Wyndemere are bigger mansions) considering others who have way more money than her live in modest places

Carly is probably going to serve an old man some chili and he's going to choke on it. Carly will give do the Heimlich Maneuver and save his life and they will strike up a friendship consisting of the old man telling Carly how wonderful she is. One day he will be standing on the sidewalk and Sasha will run him over while high on drugs and the old man will turn out to be a billionaire who has left all his money to Carly.

Search your heart. You know it will happen. 

 

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2 hours ago, Fellaway said:

Note to Carly: You do know that every penny that comes into Kelly's does not go directly into your pocket, right? Right?

Carly of the magic touch. There's a lineup around the block for Kelly's BLTs since Carly took over.

The people who work for her do it for free because she's braveandstrongandloveswithherwholeheart.

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39 minutes ago, Mirabelle said:

Carly is probably going to serve an old man some chili and he's going to choke on it. Carly will give do the Heimlich Maneuver and save his life and they will strike up a friendship consisting of the old man telling Carly how wonderful she is. One day he will be standing on the sidewalk and Sasha will run him over while high on drugs and the old man will turn out to be a billionaire who has left all his money to Carly.

All that's missing is tying his dog to a stair railing in a burning building. 

I'd like Sasha to save herself and not need Cody to fix things for her.

I wonder if Finn went over the ALS is 5-10% hereditary in his thoughts.

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4 hours ago, Fellaway said:

 if Kristina can't foresee the difficulties of having her be Molly's child's biological mother, just... wow.

Molly wasn't aware of the difficulties until Alexis spelled them out for her in very simple words. No one has told Kristina. It hadn't occurred to me either and I tend to think of myself as being fairly aware.

It's a standard soap opera trope that the difficulties could go away if only two characters would just talk to each other. Right now, all Kristina is aware of is that she wanted to do something nice for her sister (in spite of Molly being mean to her about her new project) by offering to carry a baby for her, a potentially dangerous act, and is willing to donate one of her eggs so that the baby would share some DNA with Molly. 

What she saw is that Molly and TJ got angry at her, and she didn't know the reason because she was holding off on the offer till Molly talked to her first.  When she found out why Molly was angry, Kristina took Molly her childhood toy and tried to make peace with her, which is where Kristina was at.

Kristina wasn't aware that Molly and TJ were interviewing surrogates because they hadn't told her that they had decided to reject her offer. And then TJ let slipr that Molly had invited everyone else close in the family to a sushi supper but not Kristina. When Kristina confronted Molly, Molly went off on a diatribe about how Kristina makes everything about herself and that's why Molly didn't invite her to supper. From Kristina's viewpoint, she was offering something that no one else could, Molly's DNA, and saving them the cost of surrogacy.  For that, she was ostracized.

Molly and TJ  keep saying how Kristina makes everything about her but I really didn't see it here. Kristina is impulsive and doesn't always think things through but all she wanted was to do a nice thing for her sister. She didn't try to make this about herself or boast about what she was doing and how she herself would be connected to the baby, that was Molly projecting her own insecurities.

If the writers want me to be on Molly and TJ's side, they have to give me a reason to support them because right now, they're coming off as awful.

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28 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

If the writers want me to be on Molly and TJ's side, they have to give me a reason to support them because right now, they're coming off as awful.

They really are. It's not just Kristina they're being unpleasant to, but Alexis and Sam are smart enough not to poke the bear right now. You could tell that everyone at the sushi dinner thought things were happening too quickly, but it was obvious Molly didn't want to hear anything negative.

I think their ideas of surrogacy are almost as naive as Kristina's are, just in different ways. They meet with three women and already decide on one without digging deeper? One superficial chat is all that's necessary? They should talk everything out before they get the lawyers involved so everyone is already on the same page, and the contract is simply affirming that.

I hope things blow up in Molly and TJ's faces just because they're being so awful. 

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3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I think their ideas of surrogacy are almost as naive as Kristina's are, just in different ways. They meet with three women and already decide on one without digging deeper?

And the way she berated Kristina with acting like she's been dealing with infertility for YEARS and Kristina just doesn't get it, when it's literally been a couple months.  I know Alexis broached 'what's the rush?' but Molly doesn't want to hear it.  It's like if she gets her hands on a baby with a year all her emotions about her endo will disappear. 

This 100% is going to blow up in her and TJ's faces when the surrogate has second thoughts about giving up the baby or Molly doesn't like how she's managing the pregnancy and alienates her.

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I don't give a crap about TJ/Molly/Kristina and the surrogacy. I cannot get into it because I always see Hayley Pullos in the role and nuNuMolly pulls me out of it. This is all on casting. I wonder what the rush was to recast Molly ASAP. God knows GH drops characters and storylines left and right with nary a warning - what made this SL so important? I'd much rather see Liesl and Scott, Spencer and Trina, Jordan and Zeke (handsome!), Laura and Kevin - so many couples, so many missed opportunities.

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

This 100% is going to blow up in her and TJ's faces when the surrogate has second thoughts about giving up the baby or Molly doesn't like how she's managing the pregnancy and alienates her.

Molly is a control freak, so that should go over very well.

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On 8/17/2023 at 7:46 PM, Gam2 said:

Was I having an unconscious episode when NuNuMolly told Sam that she was the best mom she knew?!?! This woman who leaves her children at “Monica’s 24 hour child care service”? I feel like I’m losing my mind on this show.

Then the lines about Sam taking the kids to the zoo and so forth.  Talk about telling and not showing.  Oh, she does all that when they aren't at the Monica daycare?  They never put that in the dialogue before.  

 

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3 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

This 100% is going to blow up in her and TJ's faces when the surrogate has second thoughts about giving up the baby or Molly doesn't like how she's managing the pregnancy and alienates her.

Am  I mistaken, or was the surrogate they chose the one who said her son was looking forward to having a baby brother or sister? That comment raised some red flags for me.

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12 hours ago, statsgirl said:

No, she said that her son was young enough that he wouldn't question why he didn't have a baby brother or sister at the end of it. It struck me as a weird thing to say.

I thought that was weird at first too, and then I thought a bit more, and I think it's actually smart. How do you explain to a little kid that Mommy is pregnant for someone else? I guess you say it like that, but I'm not sure how much the kid would really understand, especially if they have friends who are getting siblings.

But maybe that was an anvil that the surrogate will have trouble giving up the baby because her kid is too invested. That would be an interesting twist, so of course that's not what's going to happen.

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How do you explain to a little kid that Mommy is pregnant for someone else?

"What happened to my little brother/sister?"

"I gave him/her away, and that's what happens when you don't clean your room."

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I've discovered that I DESPISE nunuMolly. Like, I'm reaching levels of Jason/Peter/Franco/pre Nixon Falls Sonny/current Carly, levels of hatred. What an absolute bitch and not the Molly that Haley gave us for so many years. I thought when Kristina brought her the stupid stuffed horse that they had a conversation and had basically made up. But now Molly is back to being a bitch toward Krissy for no reason? What did she think would happen if Kris was at the lunch? Did she really think Kristina would have started ranting and raving and screaming about it? Kris can be scattered but she has manners and she wouldn't have pulled a stunt like that with Jordan present. Even alone with Molly she didn't have a temper tantrum, she just pointed out that the baby won't be biologically Molly's.

Plus, BAS makes these expressions when Molly is talking to Kristina that is pure venom, like she absolutely despises her. Like worse than when Carly is talking to Nina. Someone needs to tell her to tone it down, that Kristina isn't Molly's mortal enemy that she doesn't need to look at her like she wants to punch her in the throat and then spit on her corpse for good measure. Ugh, way to ruin a long term character and relationship.

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Culture Check: How can we discuss a character's or actor's appearance without objectifying them? How can we express likes or dislikes and still respect an individual's humanity or be mindful that a character represents a person someone else might relate to or identify with?

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