S07.E01: I Want To Kiss You

[shockermolar]

9 hours ago, RealReality said:

LOL, she should start a service.  I'm often upset about things and want to see change....but then I end up getting all worked up and have to rage nap.  

I'd pay someone to go through all the trouble of protesting and getting arrested for causes I believe in because I don't want to. 

God 100% yes on this. She's so fired up. I was like that when I was young, but 21 years of parenting and volunteerism has sucked the energy out of me. Can I just hire her to go block walking for me? I need her help to Turn Texas Blue while I catch up on The Last Kingdom before season 4 premieres.

9 hours ago, RealReality said:

I was like "oh, nooooooooooo, life is much, much too short to spend any time trying to re-educate a casual racist."

I don't mind being the first women of color a man dates....but I'm not here to here to teach someone to not be a racist.  I'm not Mary fucking Poppins. 

Right? Dude has no friends that aren't white. He went to an all-white school. And like NOTHING pings for you about the fact that you're bringing him home to arepas and social justice warriorism?  I can't with that level of pollyannaism.

[PityFree]

3 minutes ago, RealReality said:

How many times do men run around it to get married?  Sasha must have been doing marathons around that church.

Ha! I wish the tradition extended to men. Only women run around it.** And the guys that were traveling with us teased us during laps 5-7 as we slowed to slow jogs and walking.  (But you are right about Sasha!! I think he sneaks over there at night instead of using the treadmill at the gym!!)

**When I dig a google search to make sure I had the correct name of the church, I saw that anyone can run around it for general luck--but our tour guide never mentioned that. And she was the one who said 7 instead of 3 times around. (Maybe she didn't like Americans as much as she appeared to.)

[PityFree]

9 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Doesn't Emily live in Volgograd? (formerly Stalingrad)?

Oh man - maybe I am misremembering. I find it hard to keep the Russian name places straight. Oops. 

NEVERMIND everyone! I need coffee. 

Edited November 6, 2019 by PityFree

[Pepper Mostly]

The travelogue on Novgorod was entertaining!

[BallisticNikki]

Anyone else reminded of Latka Gravas from Taxi when they see Mursel? (I know someone said Zied from last season reminds them of Latka but I think we have a looks and personality doppelganger in Mursel 🤣

[Lemur]

15 hours ago, AZChristian said:

But in case of emergency, you cannot stay overnight in any of the foreign countries.  I had a friend who had a heart attack and died while snorkeling at Grand Cayman.  He was traveling with his wife and another couple.  The other couple were traveling with just their birth certificates, and they were not permitted to stay behind with the wife and their late friend.  The cruise line assigned a crew member to stay with her until her children flew in a day or two later.

And the $110 is good for 10 years, so it averages out to only $11 per year.

And yet you'd be surprised how many cruisers are resistant to doing this, due to the money, effort and non-necessity of it.  Then again, a lot of them don't buy trip insurance either, so go figure.

10 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

So, for man arabique, is good him for wear a ring. So massh so beyeoteeful . 

Of course he’s Turkish, but I adore hearing Zied talk. 

Yeeeeesssssss beeeeebe.

9 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

I mentioned this in Robert and (N)Anny's couple thread. Robert's former mother-in-law and Bryson's maternal grandmother is a porn star whose stage name is Diamond Foxxx (thanks Reddit). She can be seen in the season preview footage offering (N)Anny a cheque to return to the Dominican Republic. 

As the wise man Steve Miller once said, "Go on, take the money and run."

3 hours ago, watchingtvaddict said:

As a South African... I just don't see Syngjin as racist in the way Tania portrays him. I think she is painting his as someone with racist views as opposed to someone with a bias... does that make sense? 

There are different flavours of discrimination and I think painting a white South African as racist because he grew up during Apartheid (when he grew up in post-Apartheid South Africa) is simplistic and doesn't expose Americans to the truth of the situation in my country. 

I think part of the issue is that Tania has a (shall we say) heightened awareness of these sort of issues and may be taking great pride in "turning" him away from whatever small amount of ingrained racism he may have.  Also, she clearly lives for the drama.  

I also think the 90 Day franchise hasn't exactly been kind to South Africa, between this couple and the one from The Other Way.

1 hour ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Volgograd is certainly portrayed in a much more positive light than Olga's Voronezh was, that's for sure. Kind of departure, since the standard trope is to show any foreign location in as unflattering a light as possible. Dirty, backward, primitive, lacking in modern plumbing amenities. Except Seoul, anyway, world capital of clean anal!

Well, it used to be called Stalingrad and it was almost completely destroyed by one of the largest battles in world history in 1942-1943 and then rebuilt.  Much of the dirty, backward, old was bombed or shelled out of existence.   

[magemaud]

10 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

I mentioned this in Robert and (N)Anny's couple thread. Robert's former mother-in-law and Bryson's maternal grandmother is a porn star whose stage name is Diamond Foxxx (thanks Reddit). She can be seen in the season preview footage offering (N)Anny a cheque to return to the Dominican Republic. 

Okay, I have to give Sharp props for a new plot twist, adding a PORN STAR GRANNY into the mix! 

[FrancescaFiore]

17 hours ago, magemaud said:

I wonder if he also thinks condoms are for slut people.

Magemaud owes me a new monitor! I just spit my morning tea out all over mine when I read 'slut people.' Dying. DYING. 😂

[Adeejay]

3 hours ago, PityFree said:

 Did anyone else think about Steven and beautiful Olga when they showed Emily and Sasha shopping in the Russian baby/toy store?  

I have a feeling that while filming “Before the 90 Days”, Steven did something that pissed off the producers. Olga arrived in th U.S. and I was surprised when they weren’t selected for the follow up. I’d rather watch another season of them than I would most of these people.

[magemaud]

13 minutes ago, FrancescaFiore said:

17 hours ago, magemaud said:

I wonder if he also thinks condoms are for slut people.

Magemaud owes me a new monitor! I just spit my morning tea out all over mine when I read 'slut people.' Dying. DYING. 😂

Sorry, but you must have missed the disclaimer to "read this forum at your own risk," but maybe we could go on Judge Judy to settle your claim. XOXO, Magemaud

[FrancescaFiore]

#IAmSlutPeople (or at least I was until I stopped using condoms...)

[Dmarie019]

On 11/4/2019 at 4:09 PM, Frozendiva said:

Do these folks do an Internet search or some sort of background check on their beloveds? If I am bringing some dude over or a dude was bringing a woman over, I would not be fully sucked in by a nice body or batting eyelashes. I would want to know about any criminal record, if the dude is a pedophile or is on some sex offender list. A few hundred dollars to spend to not find out that I would risk being beaten or attacked, kids attacked, etc. is a good investment.

Although a bit late... I assume the government does that sort of thing when they apply for the visa. But then I suppose at that point in the game you become an idiot like that one girl who married the guy anyways in England without much of a hope that he could even come to the US. 

On 11/4/2019 at 8:07 PM, lovesnark said:

I'm old and haven't gone out on a date since 1984 (married 34 years). I was telling a friend the other day that if I was in the dating game now, I wouldn't even meet a guy for coffee without doing a background check first. The tools who bring them into their home and their children's lives need to be slapped into reality. If you want to bring your online/vacation fuck buddy over from another country, fine. Leave your kids out of it.

I am 36 (maybe 37...I've lost track...) and I haven't dated in a very very very verrryyyyy long time and  honestly, while it's probably my fault for loving to watch crimes shows, I am almost TERRIFIED to date someone because there are so many messed up people out there who are able to pretend they are someone else so easily. 

16 hours ago, doyouevengohere said:

They are a mess, but I actually like the beekeeper woman and Mursel; I hope he just says "I want to kiss you " for everything he replies to in English.  He seems like a gentle guy and I hope they make it.

I think out of everyone they have the best chance to stay together. I think they are suited well other than the language barrier.  They have a common hobby that brought them together.

I think with Omar he probably met him on his flights, they became buds and while sharing why they were in the US Mursel told him he was going to be on tv and invited him to make a cameo lol 

[Spisee Hotsos]

On ‎11‎/‎5‎/‎2019 at 5:56 AM, watchingtvaddict said:

I don't get Tania talking about how Sinjin grew up during apartheid.  He didn't. I'm in my late 30s and I don't consider that I grew during Apartheid. Apartheid ended in 1994. He is not yet 30... while he was growing up segregation was over.

I agree! When she matter-of-factly stated that "apartheid ended about 20 years ago" I yelled "Try 25 years ago!". He's too young to remember segregation, but would have grown up around lingering racism in SA, which continues to this day. She should have left apartheid out of it.

Edited November 6, 2019 by Saje81

[blubld43]

32 minutes ago, Saje81 said:

I agree! When she matter-of-factly stated that "apartheid ended about 20 years ago" I yelled "Try 25 years ago!". He's too young to remember segregation, but would have grown up around lingering racism in SA, which continues to this day. She should have left apartheid out of it.

I'm sure she used that particular word for maximum attention. I mean, I'm all for organized civil protest given the ahem, political environment we currently live in, but she comes off to me as just loud. Look at me! That kind of loud.

2 hours ago, magemaud said:

Okay, I have to give Sharp props for a new plot twist, adding a PORN STAR GRANNY into the mix! 

Please, give us porn star Granny! You know she'd take that check!

Edited November 6, 2019 by blubld43

[HunterHunted]

6 hours ago, watchingtvaddict said:

As a South African... I just don't see Syngjin as racist in the way Tania portrays him. I think she is painting his as someone with racist views as opposed to someone with a bias... does that make sense? 

There are different flavours of discrimination and I think painting a white South African as racist because he grew up during Apartheid (when he grew up in post-Apartheid South Africa) is simplistic and doesn't expose Americans to the truth of the situation in my country. 

I'd argue that viewing Tania's statements as self-aggrandizing and hyperbolic is simplistic and doesn't expose the truth of the situation in America. Dismantling the formal institutional mechanisms of racial oppression (chattel slavery and Jim Crow laws) did not mean the beliefs and view points that motivated those systems disappeared. If anything, the US is the cautionary tale about why vigilance in is necessary. These beliefs just entrenched themselves in other systems is less formalized and more subtle ways.

Trevor Noah was 7 when apartheid was repealed. It's very clear that the entrenched racism and bigotry in South Africa continued to have an impact on his life. Yes, people of color are the majority in South Africa, but hundreds of years of white South African power, connections, and relationships with foreign governments and banks does not disappear overnight. So I don't think Tania is off base. I don't get her interest in him because that shit would feel like constantly teaching a class at the learning annex. 

Furthermore there's always been a cultural aspect about what is and isn't considered racist. I'm always shocked when watching tv and movies by how many commonwealth countries think the term "Chinese Whispers" is ok. The term originated from a racist belief. It's what we in the US woukd call a game of telephone. "Chinese Whispers" comes from the idea that chinese languages were unintelligible and the Chinese people were sneaky and untrustworthy. How is that ok?

6 hours ago, Bryce Lynch said:

I'm not sure, but I think she mentioned that her father was Venezuelan as the basis for her "self-identifying" as Latina.   I presume she would have said, "And my mother is Mexican, Salvadoran, Cuban or whatever" if Mother Tania was also Latina.

Then, again ,maybe she is Latina on both sides, but saying "self-identify" sounded really "woke" to her.  

There are people who have Afro Latinx ancestry who only identify as Black. There are individuals of Latinx descent who only identify as white. There are people who were born and raised in Mexico, Central and South American countries, or the Caribbean who don't identify as Latinx at all. Frau Bundchen grew up in Brazil, but won't call herself Latina. She's 100% of German ancestry. Lupita Nyongo is ethnically Kenyan, but born in Mexico. Louis CK was born in Mexico, but is of Hungarian Jewish, Irish, and Mexican descent. Spanish was his first language and he does refer to himself as Mexican. Chef Katsuji Tanabe is of Mexican and Japanese heritage, but calls himself Mexican because he identifies with it more. There's a range, but I don't think that it's pretentious or ridiculous for Tania to say this.

I worked with a guy who the second time I met him in a meeting, he unprompted by anything I said, explained that his family had been in Mexico for 150 years, but he's not Mexican. He's Spanish from Spain because his family would never marry a Mexican. Ummmmm, ok dude. Nice to see you again. 

[Bryce Lynch]

6 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

I'd argue that viewing Tania's statements as self-aggrandizing and hyperbolic is simplistic and doesn't expose the truth of the situation in America. Dismantling the formal institutional mechanisms of racial oppression (chattel slavery and Jim Crow laws) did not mean the beliefs and view points that motivated those systems disappeared. If anything, the US is the cautionary tale about why vigilance in is necessary. These beliefs just entrenched themselves in other systems is less formalized and more subtle ways.

Trevor Noah was 7 when apartheid was repealed. It's very clear that the entrenched racism and bigotry in South Africa continued to have an impact on his life. Yes, people of color are the majority in South Africa, but hundreds of years of white South African power, connections, and relationships with foreign governments and banks does not disappear overnight. So I don't think Tania is off base. I don't get her interest in him because that shit would feel like constantly teaching a class at the learning annex. 

Furthermore there's always been a cultural aspect about what is and isn't considered racist. I'm always shocked when watching tv and movies by how many commonwealth countries think the term "Chinese Whispers" is ok. The term originated from a racist belief. It's what we in the US woukd call a game of telephone. "Chinese Whispers" comes from the idea that chinese languages were unintelligible and the Chinese people were sneaky and untrustworthy. How is that ok?

There are people who have Afro Latinx ancestry who only identify as Black. There are individuals of Latinx descent who only identify as white. There are people who were born and raised in Mexico, Central and South American countries, or the Caribbean who don't identify as Latinx at all. Frau Bundchen grew up in Brazil, but won't call herself Latina. She's 100% of German ancestry. Lupita Nyongo is ethnically Kenyan, but born in Mexico. Louis CK was born in Mexico, but is of Hungarian Jewish, Irish, and Mexican descent. Spanish was his first language and he does refer to himself as Mexican. Chef Katsuji Tanabe is of Mexican and Japanese heritage, but calls himself Mexican because he identifies with it more. There's a range, but I don't think that it's pretentious or ridiculous for Tania to say this.

I worked with a guy who the second time I met him in a meeting, he unprompted by anything I said, explained that his family had been in Mexico for 150 years, but he's not Mexican. He's Spanish from Spain because his family would never marry a Mexican. Ummmmm, ok dude. Nice to see you again. 

Well, my main point was that if her mother was also of Latin American descent, she probably wouldn't have singled out her father's country of origin as the basis of her "Latinaness".  

I put the last part in because she seems rather pretentious, eager to display her "wokeness" and a "self-identify" sounds like woke talk.

Personally, I self-identify as native American, because I was born here.   

[FrancescaFiore]

10 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

Personally, I self-identify as native American, because I was born here.   

I was too, but that's not why I identify as NA. A bunch of pale dudes who gave me smallpox infected blankets tricked me into giving them my house. 

[shockermolar]

28 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

I worked with a guy who the second time I met him in a meeting, he unprompted by anything I said, explained that his family had been in Mexico for 150 years, but he's not Mexican. He's Spanish from Spain because his family would never marry a Mexican. Ummmmm, ok dude. Nice to see you again. 

I went to HS with a dude who did that. He made it an absolute point to make sure everyone understood that, while he was HISPANIC, he was not MEXICAN because his ancestors never mingled their bloodlines with any native peoples. His conquistador ancestors came through FLORIDA dammit, and they then traveled overland through what is now the American SW and nary a brown-ish woman tempted them along the way I guess. As to how there was procreative behavior with non-brown females was never explained. It was doubly dumb because we were in San Antonio. I mean, was it necessary to distance yourself that much from the majority Latinx around you by being a tool about it? 

[HunterHunted]

9 minutes ago, shockermolar said:

It was doubly dumb because we were in San Antonio. I mean, was it necessary to distance yourself that much from the majority Latinx around you by being a tool about it? 

Now I'm wondering if they're related because the guy I worked with is from Austin, Texas and still lives in Austin. 

[RoxiP]

I self identify as a Texan.

[magemaud]

3 hours ago, Dmarie019 said:

I think with Omar he probably met him on his flights, they became buds and while sharing why they were in the US Mursel told him he was going to be on tv and invited him to make a cameo lol 

My theory is that New Friend Omar was standing around watching the commotion with the filming but really had no clue what was going on so he wandered into camera range and the production crew said, "Let's go with this..." 

[Mu Shu]

10 hours ago, watchingtvaddict said:

As a South African... I just don't see Syngjin as racist in the way Tania portrays him. I think she is painting his as someone with racist views as opposed to someone with a bias... does that make sense? 

There are different flavours of discrimination and I think painting a white South African as racist because he grew up during Apartheid (when he grew up in post-Apartheid South Africa) is simplistic and doesn't expose Americans to the truth of the situation in my country. 

It sounds like Tania is projecting on him. Sorry, but South America has a long history of slavery and racism. Doesn’t mean I assume all South Americans are racist. She sounds like one of those people who perpetually want to be offended so she can show off her moral superiority. 

[Spike]

9 hours ago, shockermolar said:

Gender neutral so you're not having to be all Latina or Latino. Kind of like they instead of her or him.

Well they're smaller - maybe a third of the size. And in theory they are purple. But when I was watching the scene I immediately thought, "why are there Nerds all over that table? Could he not have cleaned that up?"

Grape Nerds, Breakfast of Champions.

Edited November 7, 2019 by Spike

[Spike]

7 hours ago, magemaud said:

Okay, I have to give Sharp props for a new plot twist, adding a PORN STAR GRANNY into the mix! 

We did have three generations of strippers with the woman from Milwaukee who never met her love rat.

5 hours ago, Dmarie019 said:

Although a bit late... I assume the government does that sort of thing when they apply for the visa. But then I suppose at that point in the game you become an idiot like that one girl who married the guy anyways in England without much of a hope that he could even come to the US. 

I am 36 (maybe 37...I've lost track...) and I haven't dated in a very very very verrryyyyy long time and  honestly, while it's probably my fault for loving to watch crimes shows, I am almost TERRIFIED to date someone because there are so many messed up people out there who are able to pretend they are someone else so easily. 

I think out of everyone they have the best chance to stay together. I think they are suited well other than the language barrier.  They have a common hobby that brought them together.

I think with Omar he probably met him on his flights, they became buds and while sharing why they were in the US Mursel told him he was going to be on tv and invited him to make a cameo lol 

He said they met in the Istanbul airport.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

22 hours ago, doyouevengohere said:

Emily- I wish for her a POAAOM birth.

What is a POAAOM birth? I heard this on a podcast today and I still don't get it!

(ps love your screenname)

[QueBueno]

9 hours ago, PityFree said:

There is a church in Novgorod (Church of Paraskeva) that single women are supposed to run around three times if they want luck to get married.

You know if Darcey ever caught wind of this, she would be a regular at that church.

3 hours ago, shockermolar said:

I went to HS with a dude who did that. He made it an absolute point to make sure everyone understood that, while he was HISPANIC, he was not MEXICAN because his ancestors never mingled their bloodlines with any native peoples. His conquistador ancestors came through FLORIDA dammit, and they then traveled overland through what is now the American SW and nary a brown-ish woman tempted them along the way I guess. As to how there was procreative behavior with non-brown females was never explained. It was doubly dumb because we were in San Antonio. I mean, was it necessary to distance yourself that much from the majority Latinx around you by being a tool about it? 

Yikes!  I grew up in San Antonio and never met anyone like that.

[Kiss my mutt]

I self-identify as a baked potato. 

Edited November 7, 2019 by Kiss my mutt

[Hangin Out]

On 11/4/2019 at 5:56 AM, Gobi said:

I'm learning so many things from this show. Things I never wanted to know.

I always wanted to go in one of those shops and look around, but I was afraid one of my neighbors would see me go in or out, hahaha.  I’m too old now.

[nutella fitzgerald]

1 hour ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

What is a POAAOM birth? I heard this on a podcast today and I still don't get it!

(ps love your screenname)

It’s a reference to Steven and Olga from season 6. Olga had her baby in a Russian hospital, and the signage for the maternity ward said “роддом”. https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-meaning-of/russian-word-51bea407113c17300d2ba0f7fc7cdb7446f434b4.html

[Spike]

[doyouevengohere]

12 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

What is a POAAOM birth? I heard this on a podcast today and I still don't get it!

(ps love your screenname)

Thanks!   Sweet beautiful, gentle Olga (the most likable person on season 6) gave birth in Russia.  The hospital was called POAAOM and it seemed a leftover relic of a communist institution. It looked like it smelled like bleach and pee.  It was drab and drear and desolate.  The doctors and nurses seemed unconcerned about their patients.

Edited November 7, 2019 by doyouevengohere

[usernameG]

On 11/5/2019 at 10:45 PM, RealReality said:

Something just seems kinda weird about their story.  Greenwich is legit old blue blood money rich.  

Like you are going to get judged for being on any reality show rich.  Like you are really going to get judged for being on low budget 90 DF trashy reality TV show.  

I just feel like there has to be more to the story.  If he is legit Greenwich rich, he would quietly bring her over here and marry her.  

Maybe he wants to further her modelling career.....but 90 DF has NEVER furthered anyone's modelling career ever.  

His "money"must be new money.

Also he drives a Porsche but lives in an apartment?

[RealReality]

12 minutes ago, usernameG said:

His "money"must be new money.

Also he drives a Porsche but lives in an apartment?

He said something about how right after the divorce he got an apartment, but now wanted a house since Julianna was coming and it was around the corner from his ex-wifes house. 

I just don't know.....I think maybe I've been scammed by "rich" reality show participants before......in that it seems like many can superficially give an image of wealth, but then you find out that they are leveraged to the max, swimming in bad loans, in trouble with the IRS, have rented a house for filming because it's way beyond their means or have otherwise grossly overstated their wealth. 

I think of some of the RHONJ....back when I watched that show.  And recently Tim.  He presented himself as this rich guy and had the car to prove it......now we find out that he has to save up money for an engagement ring....or felt compelled to recycle the old one.  That's not moneyed! 

Edited November 7, 2019 by RealReality

[Mrs. Hanson]

22 hours ago, BallisticNikki said:

Anyone else reminded of Latka Gravas from Taxi when they see Mursel? (I know someone said Zied from last season reminds them of Latka but I think we have a looks and personality doppelganger in Mursel 🤣

You beat me to it.  He reminds me of Latka, too.  Randomly saying things:  "I want to kiss you!"  and I am waiting for "I want to marry you!"  but we know from previews what is coming:  "I want you to hide your kids!"

Why anyone would agree to lie to your future in laws over the presence of, oh I don't know......CHILDREN is beyond me.

[BallisticNikki]

54 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

You beat me to it.  He reminds me of Latka, too.  Randomly saying things:  "I want to kiss you!"  and I am waiting for "I want to marry you!"  but we know from previews what is coming:  "I want you to hide your kids!"

Why anyone would agree to lie to your future in laws over the presence of, oh I don't know......CHILDREN is beyond me.

Right.

So they are OK with him leaving Turkey to move permanently to a country whose language he doesn't know, they are OK she is not Muslim, they are OK she was married before....but they can't know about children?? That's weird.

But really, some of these guys (Mursel, Zied, Sumit) are a total trip, lying to their parents bc they are totally desperate for their parents' approval....but nevertheless pursuing these ill-advised relationships w foreign women of whom they know their parents would disapprove, given all the info. Even Michael from Nigeria, misleading his mother about Angela's fertility. F'n ridiculous!!!

It's still bad when women do it but I cannot understand it at all being done by men.

[Lemur]

18 hours ago, Bryce Lynch said:

Personally, I self-identify as native American, because I was born here.   

Welp, my family's been in the US so long we stopped hyphenating roughly 150 years ago so I self-identity as a basic white chick.  That doesn't mean we're native though.  

17 hours ago, RoxiP said:

I self identify as a Texan.

Correction: Basic white chick from Philadelphia.

1 hour ago, usernameG said:

His "money"must be new money.

Also he drives a Porsche but lives in an apartment?

I wouldn't doubt that.  Also, he has a certain manchild quality to him, what with this emphasis on owning big boy toys and going ot yacht parties with celebrities.  

[Bryce Lynch]

Just now, Lemur said:

Welp, my family's been in the US so long we stopped hyphenating roughly 150 years ago so I self-identity as a basic white chick.  That doesn't mean we're native though.  

Yeah, my point is I just consider myself American, though my ancestors were born mostly in Ireland and Germany.   

Years ago a co-worker of mine took her first international trip.  At customs, they asked her what her nationality was and she said Italian and Polish.  The customs inspector replied, "Then, why do you have a U.S. Passport?"

[Lemur]

Just now, Bryce Lynch said:

Yeah, my point is I just consider myself American, though my ancestors were born mostly in Ireland and Germany.   

Years ago a co-worker of mine took her first international trip.  At customs, they asked her what her nationality was and she said Italian and Polish.  The customs inspector replied, "Then, why do you have a U.S. Passport?"

Native American and American are two different things though.  My people may have come over before the US was a nation, but that doesn't mean we're Native American.  And I'd never claim to be a "Native Born American" as that has certain connotations in both history and politics.  That said, I think I've been behind your co-worker coming back through customs a time or two.  I wonder how many times a day they ask that question. 

[Bryce Lynch]

1 minute ago, Lemur said:

Native American and American are two different things though.  My people may have come over before the US was a nation, but that doesn't mean we're Native American.  And I'd never claim to be a "Native Born American" as that has certain connotations in both history and politics.  That said, I think I've been behind your co-worker coming back through customs a time or two.  I wonder how many times a day they ask that question. 

Well, I used a small n.  Again, my point is I personally think Americans should simply consider themselves Americans, or maybe just humans.  

[Lemur]

1 minute ago, Bryce Lynch said:

Well, I used a small n.  Again, my point is I personally think Americans should simply consider themselves Americans, or maybe just humans.  

What if they're sub-humans like Angela? 😉

[Mrs. Hanson]

30 minutes ago, Lemur said:

What if they're sub-humans like Angela? 😉

People, stay off IG with some sites in regards to Big Angela.  Some folks just LOVE her!!  Like fawning over her!  "She tells it like it is!"  Ugh - no she is an abuser.

[Bryce Lynch]

3 hours ago, Lemur said:

What if they're sub-humans like Angela? 😉

I certainly don't want Angela identifying as the same species as me.  

[Neurochick]

Ugh, please don't remind me that Angela will be showing up this season.

Love her review:

[Mrs. Hanson]

On 11/4/2019 at 12:30 PM, islandgal140 said:

He is like the Russian equivalent of Future the Rapper, but more broke!

Future has ten kids with eight different women.  And he is only 35......yowsa!

[Gobi]

1 hour ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Future has ten kids with eight different women.  And he is only 35......yowsa!

Clearly, he's not one of the slut people!

[Mrs. Hanson]

9 minutes ago, Gobi said:

Clearly, he's not one of the slut people!

Nope, he needs to learn to wrap that rascal.

[RoxiP]

2 hours ago, Gobi said:

Clearly, he's not one of the slut people!

I'm sure he thinks the women should be responsible for that kind of stuff.

[magemaud]

I feel bad for the swarm of bees Murcel left behind in Turkey, they must be devastated. 

[RoxiP]

1 hour ago, magemaud said:

I feel bad for the swarm of bees Murcel left behind in Turkey, they must be devastated. 

Weirdly enough I did wonder who was taking care of the bees that he abandoned.

[magemaud]

On 11/7/2019 at 12:37 PM, Mrs. Hanson said:

On 11/7/2019 at 12:05 PM, Lemur said:

People, stay off IG with some sites in regards to Big Angela.  Some folks just LOVE her!!  Like fawning over her!  "She tells it like it is!"  Ugh - no she is an abuser

I’m always amazed at the positive support and encouragement I see on “soshul meedya” for people like Angela, Nicole and Danielle. It makes me strongly suspect that anything negative is deleted immediately.