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58 minutes ago, pinkandsparkly13 said:

Oh VK could have very well been guaranteed a spot on the team. It's not that hard to believe really. If it happened before she even got into TCC. It's perfectly plausible that she was, but they didn't expect her to gain so much weight or be immature, and lie about things... So there ya go. Just because she was cut doesn't mean the rumors weren't true. 

By that logic, the “guarantee” was we’ll put you on the team as long as you don’t gain weight and follow through on all your responsibilities. That’s not a guarantee. That’s “if you don’t handle your business in the way we expected you to, then we’ll cut you”. 

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13 hours ago, hathorlive said:

It's interesting that she's wearing a top/romper thing that blouses out at the waist.  Is weight still an issue for her?  I don't think I would want to stand anywhere near Kat.  That girl is lean with the DCC body VK desperately wants.

13 hours ago, heckkitty said:

I suspect that’s just a style she likes. Maybe she’s self conscious about her mid section because that’s where she had the most noticeable issues in the past. Her face, arms, & legs all look better in that pic than they did last year. 

I think it's her style preference. If you look at all of her solo costumes (not just DCC, but when competing, too) and her dance video practice outfits, she tends to go for the billowy, looser tops. I suspect she has always been self-conscious about her tummy/waist area -- first, she's a "big" girl (large frame) in the dance world, so she's always going to look bigger than everyone else in the room no matter how in shape/toned she is and, second, she hasn't always been in the best shape (talking DCC/dance world here, not real world), with even the slightest gain making her stand out even more. So, I think she gravitates toward the looser fit when given the choice.

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2 minutes ago, Tootie said:

Looks like Judy's stool won't get cut from TC! lol

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I hope they do the segment again with the GL's putting stickers on photos and explaining why (or why not).  It's nice to hear a different perspective, but I realize it might be hard for them when they know the other girls will see/hear it on the show.

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25 minutes ago, TinyHands said:

By that logic, the “guarantee” was we’ll put you on the team as long as you don’t gain weight and follow through on all your responsibilities. That’s not a guarantee. That’s “if you don’t handle your business in the way we expected you to, then we’ll cut you”. 

No she was promised a spot on the team before they knew that would happen. It's not that hard to accept, if true. 

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13 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

I hope they do the segment again with the GL's putting stickers on photos and explaining why (or why not).  It's nice to hear a different perspective, but I realize it might be hard for them when they know the other girls will see/hear it on the show.

Do they really care? Those last two promo videos of cuts and bad tryouts don't show a whole lot of caring about other's feelings.

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3 minutes ago, hannahbanana said:

Do they really care? Those last two promo videos of cuts and bad tryouts don't show a whole lot of caring about other's feelings.

I would think the GL's would care as they aren't that far removed from being on the other side of it.

And it will be very interesting to read the episode threads this year, especially the ones for auditions, semis and finals.

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1 hour ago, scorpio1031 said:

I would think the GL's would care as they aren't that far removed from being on the other side of it.

And it will be very interesting to read the episode threads this year, especially the ones for auditions, semis and finals.

True, but they don't control what is shown on tv. I took your original post as it might be hard for those making the show & deciding what goes into it (Kelli), so it might not be done. I don't think Kelli cares. But reading your post the other way, I agree -- it would be nice to see that segment again, but hard on the group leaders.

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8 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

I'd like to see them go back to using different songs thru the season.  They could always take a couple of the sideline dances and expand upon them as well.

I fully agree that TS is stale, but they probably are loathe to change because they (not DCC) would have to change the pregame video of the Cowboys that the big screen toggles with video of the girls.  And they probably want something “manly” to intro the Cowboys.   

4 hours ago, notvictoria said:

Victoria's legs are actually really great, even in a room of dancers.  In high school, everyone thought her legs were awesome.

And also, Kitty is really awesome.  She has a good eye for spotting excellence.  She loved Olivia S. and Holly P. a lot and they were  really good dancers.

She also loved Morgan and the girl could not remember a sequence.  

I don’t think the fact that she loved Olivia and Holly show any tremendous gifts for spying talent.  Rock stars like Holly P, Melissa, Megan C, Amy (retired Amy) are clearly talented.   You don’t even need to have any experience with dance to be able to recognize their prowess.   

I just rewatched S7 with the way she talked to Danielle and others about their thickness and none of them were anywhere near the weight gain that VK showed.  She was horrible about Vivian in her first season of TCC and about little Megan (the one with the alleged thutt). 

I just hate the hypocrisy.  

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4 hours ago, notvictoria said:

Victoria's legs are actually really great, even in a room of dancers.  In high school, everyone thought her legs were awesome.

And also, Kitty is really awesome.  She has a good eye for spotting excellence.  She loved Olivia S. and Holly P. a lot and they were  really good dancers.

Well, Olivia S was her daughter in law at one time.

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On 7/21/2019 at 12:01 AM, HowdeeDo said:

...Amy’s personality is straight out of Disney channel sunshine land. Not sure how you see it as arrogant over Gina but to each their own. 

I can see ANYONE at point BUT Gina.  I do not like her persona or facials at all.  She has toned down her "extra-ness" and I'll give her credit for that.  I'm not on the Gina bandwagon, however, and never will be.  I'll be glad when she is finally gone. 

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Now that we have confirmation from Shelly B that VK and the other SG rookies are NOT going to Oxnard as “several credible insiders” had said...all future “insider” info is back to a grain of salt for me. 🤣

It’s entertaining to believe someone (aka Veruca 🙄) threw a fit to their mommy and mommy ran to her bestie to get their way....but most of us pretty much knew that was just pot stirring.  But, if there really are “insiders” feeding someone this bad info...they’re laughing right now that so many bought it!  

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23 minutes ago, IHopeUDance said:

Now that we have confirmation from Shelly B that VK and the other SG rookies are NOT going to Oxnard as “several credible insiders” had said...all future “insider” info is back to a grain of salt for me. 🤣

It’s entertaining to believe someone (aka Veruca 🙄) threw a fit to their mommy and mommy ran to her bestie to get their way....but most of us pretty much knew that was just pot stirring.  But, if there really are “insiders” feeding someone this bad info...they’re laughing right now that so many bought it!  

🤣😂🤣😂

Not to imply this forum has any real power, but clearly TBTB do have conversations here monitored.   Is it possible they changed their minds when they realized how badly it would be perceived if rookies (or, let’s face it, VK) was going to Oxnard?

ill be in my corner wearing my tinfoil hat now.  🙃

I will echo what others have said: if they weren’t in such a lockdown for ALL news, we fans would not be speculating and so hungry for any tiny morsel with a shred of possible credibility.  

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34 minutes ago, IHopeUDance said:

Now that we have confirmation from Shelly B that VK and the other SG rookies are NOT going to Oxnard as “several credible insiders” had said...all future “insider” info is back to a grain of salt for me. 🤣

It’s entertaining to believe someone (aka Veruca 🙄) threw a fit to their mommy and mommy ran to her bestie to get their way....but most of us pretty much knew that was just pot stirring.  But, if there really are “insiders” feeding someone this bad info...they’re laughing right now that so many bought it!  

🤣😂🤣😂

I remember one person repeating what they had heard and the rest was just comments and speculation.  Considering what happened last year, I don’t see that ending anytime soon.  So far, insider info has been right far more than it’s been wrong.

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9 hours ago, hannahbanana said:

Except I don't think the "as long as you don't gain weight/follow through on your responsibilities" was ever part of the equation. I wouldn't imagine Kelli ever thought it needed it to be.

I don't think it was an outright promise, as in Kelli walked up to her and said, "Victoria, come to auditions and you're on the team," but more something that's been understood / a given for a very long time: as soon as Victoria is old enough, she WILL be a DCC. Never in her wildest dreams do I think Kelli ever imagined a scenario like last year would happen. I'm sure she just thought Victoria would come, go through training camp, and become a DCC -- instead she got an immature child with an overt weight gain who she still gave chance after chance until she just plain ran out of time/excuses. Kelli tried her hardest to put VK on the team last year, but in the end VK turned out to be such a mess that there was no way Kelli could justify it.

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9 minutes ago, DAthene said:

Not to imply this forum has any real power, but clearly TBTB do have conversations here monitored.   Is it possible they changed their minds when they realized how badly it would be perceived if rookies (or, let’s face it, VK) was going to Oxnard?

ill be in my corner wearing my tinfoil hat now.  🙃

I will echo what others have said: if they weren’t in such a lockdown for ALL news, we fans would not be speculating and so hungry for any tiny morsel with a shred of possible credibility.  

No, I don’t think anyone believes that within 10 days of leaving for Oxnard,  Kelli hears that a handful of people on a gossip forum might be outraged at the thought of VK may be going to Oxnard, so she canceled all the rookies flights, hotel rooms, reassigned roommates, and had Judy change every dance formation to just keep those few anonymous people on a random forum happy. 🤷🏼‍♀️  You’re right, I’m sure this forum doesn’t have that kind of power. Lol 

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12 minutes ago, Sillisusu said:

So we don’t know for sure VK was guaranteed a spot? Is there inside info leading us to that conclusion?

Nope. No true “insider” info.  Just speculation & gossip.  Kelli may have infuriated some on the forum for giving VK every chance possible during camp last year, but proved to everyone that by the time the final team takes the field, if the spot isn’t earned it’s not guaranteed to anyone, including her best friend’s daughter.  

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On 7/21/2019 at 8:57 AM, hathorlive said:

It's interesting that she's wearing a top/romper thing that blouses out at the waist.  Is weight still an issue for her?  I don't think I would want to stand anywhere near Kat.  That girl is lean with the DCC body VK desperately wants.

I'm not a VK fan, but I think she looks great in that romper.   Before I saw the picture and heard about it, I was imagining a very casual summer romper with flip flops type of thing.  Those are actually very "in" now, styled with strappy sandals, wedges etc, and I thought it looked great on her.  

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12 hours ago, notvictoria said:

Victoria's legs are actually really great, even in a room of dancers.  In high school, everyone thought her legs were awesome.

And also, Kitty is really awesome.  She has a good eye for spotting excellence.  She loved Olivia S. and Holly P. a lot and they were  really good dancers.

Ha ha I laughed out loud at this.  Is there some kind of inside knowledge that in high school people thought she had great legs 😂!  VK may have long legs but she has a short torso and is boxy, Not a lot of curve.  There are many dancers on the team with better legs and the upper body to match like veteran Erin. 

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52 minutes ago, IHopeUDance said:

No, I don’t think anyone believes that within 10 days of leaving for Oxnard,  Kelli hears that a handful of people on a gossip forum might be outraged at the thought of VK may be going to Oxnard, so she canceled all the rookies flights, hotel rooms, reassigned roommates, and had Judy change every dance formation to just keep those few anonymous people on a random forum happy. 🤷🏼‍♀️  You’re right, I’m sure this forum doesn’t have that kind of power. Lol 

Of course people believe that.

I wonder how many times Judy has fallen off her stool laughing at what is said on this forum. 

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6 minutes ago, parrotfeathers said:

Of course people believe that.

I wonder how many times Judy has fallen off her stool laughing at what is said on this forum. 

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I can only imagine Judy and KF spending their lunch breaks laughing hysterically over all we say on here...stools flipping over and all!  Lol. 

If I were them (and had any extra time to actually care about anonymous forums) ...I’d love just throwing a rumor bone out there and sit back to watch the wolves go crazy and then see them backpaddle when they find out it’s not true!  🤣 But, I’m pretty sure they have their minds focused on other things.  All I know is they  haven’t put together a world class team for over 30 years by accident.  :)) 

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43 minutes ago, IHopeUDance said:

Nope. No true “insider” info.  Just speculation & gossip.  Kelli may have infuriated some on the forum for giving VK every chance possible during camp last year, but proved to everyone that by the time the final team takes the field, if the spot isn’t earned it’s not guaranteed to anyone, including her best friend’s daughter.  

There was definitely insider info offered last year that said VK was telling people she was guaranteed a spot.  Take that how you wish, anywhere from “she was promised!” To “she’s 18 and not that bright” 

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3 minutes ago, nittanyvolleyball said:

It's literally a rip off of the Sunday Night Football song that Carrie Underwood sings

Ok, but that song is 100 times better, doesn’t have cheesy rhymes that are a stretch at best, and Carrie Underwood doesn’t have an annoying squeaky voice. 🙂 maybe it will grow on me. 

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14 minutes ago, DCC-UK said:

 I still love this kickline. So many pretty kicks (Lacey's being the best).

However, I will never understand why they take someone into TC with low kicks. It's impossible to get that flexible in 8-10 weeks unless you just break a few bones.

It frustrates me too. I guess I always thought that they thought it was possible to get a girls kicks up by the end of training camp, but IMO low kicks should be regarded just the same as someone now being uniform ready at semi's. It's an instant no. You are KNOWN for your kickline, why not only take girls that have kicks that are on par or close to Lacey/Holly's etc.? 

I know not everyone has the whole package at tryouts, but girls shouldn't even bother auditioning if they don't have the kicks. And I say this having loved some DCC who had low kicks. 

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29 minutes ago, go4luca said:

I hope when the season starts, more discussion about the other TCC's happens.  Anything but 100% convo about Vic.

If everything would stop revolving around the show, they could do more PR regarding who made TC.  They could introduce each TCC in an IG post or feature them on FB.  They could have vets talk about why they are trying out again and what they are looking forward to this next year.  They could use the DCC IG and post who the GL's are, who made show group, etc. Unfortunately, there are a lot of viewers who don't want to know the slightest bit of information and in my opinion, that is who they are catering to. There are a lot of fans who would like to see this kind of stuff, as well as, family and friends of the TCC's.  And how many of these fans were fans before the show?

1 hour ago, nittanyvolleyball said:

It's literally a rip off of the Sunday Night Football song that Carrie Underwood sings

And Sunday Night Football is on Sunday nights.  MTT can be on at 2 am on a Tuesday or 3 pm on a Wednesday.  Or it can be on MTV or on LOGO.  But the song says "Friday nights on CMT."  Bet they change the intro for syndication:)  

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2 minutes ago, HowdeeDo said:

It frustrates me too. I guess I always thought that they thought it was possible to get a girls kicks up by the end of training camp, but IMO low kicks should be regarded just the same as someone now being uniform ready at semi's. It's an instant no. You are KNOWN for your kickline, why not only take girls that have kicks that are on par or close to Lacey/Holly's etc.? 

I know not everyone has the whole package at tryouts, but girls shouldn't even bother auditioning if they don't have the kicks. And I say this having loved some DCC who had low kicks. 

If they're average, you can stretch as much as possible (Mackenzie was a good example of this) but if they're super low, there's no way. I say this as someone who was always a strong kicker growing up! Having tried to get flexible now after a few years out, it's not impossible but takes longer than a couple of months. 

Exactly, I wouldn't bother showing up if I couldn't kick high or do both my splits. Like you can Youtube the kickline or watch the show to see the kickline. 

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2 hours ago, IHopeUDance said:

🤣😂🤣😂

I can only imagine Judy and KF spending their lunch breaks laughing hysterically over all we say on here...stools flipping over and all!  Lol. 

If I were them (and had any extra time to actually care about anonymous forums) ...I’d love just throwing a rumor bone out there and sit back to watch the wolves go crazy and then see them backpaddle when they find out it’s not true!  🤣 But, I’m pretty sure they have their minds focused on other things.  All I know is they  haven’t put together a world class team for over 30 years by accident.  :)) 

they totally have thrown 'rumor bones' out before... remember when they released a picture of Robin at point a few summers ago and everyone was like OMG!!  totally trolling us.  It would not shock me at ALL if they are purposely holding off on setting the triangle because of all the rampant speculation here.  I know I would. 

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