S14.E03: All Aboard The Rumor Train

[KungFuBunny]

4 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

Ok. Threesome is three people.

Gangbang is one person of one sex, and several people of the opposite sex. While a threesome is generally three people equally sharing sex, a gangbang is usually demeaning for the subject of the gangbang.

Running the train is same as a gangbang. 

In short, threesomes are usually three equals who agree to have sex together. Gangbangs/Trains are usually not pleasant and wanted. They are usually done for money, as in pornos, or they are coerced or forced. Since I don’t think Kelly has gangbangs for cash, if this did happen to her she wasn’t able to consent.

So these hags are either laughing at Kelly for experiencing sexual assault, or are too stupid to know what Training means. 

Its possible Kelly was a swinger and had group sex. Group sex is an equal amount of male/female partners who have sex in one room and change partners.  Like the threesome, it’s usually equal amongst the participants. 

There is a documentary called Roll Red Roll. It is the first time I heard the term. This is a true story about 3 of the lead football players of a high School in Steubenville Ohio. One (I think the quarterback) was at a party where he spent the earlier part just hanging out with a girl drinking and talking. Fast forward to her being blackout drunk - she's unconscious. They literally carry her from house to house and rape her as well as letting other boys stick things into her. They video, they Instagram, they talk about this on Social Media and post this. They pose her naked unconscious body. Several videos show guys laughing how the victim was totally trained.

It's incredibly sad as the victim is SHAMED. The majority of the community is complicit in accepting this rape culture

[Mu Shu]

8 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

There is a documentary called Roll Red Roll. It is the first time I heard the term. This is a true story about 3 of the lead football players of a high School in Steubenville Ohio. One (I think the quarterback) was at a party where he spent the earlier part just hanging out with a girl drinking and talking. Fast forward to her being blackout drunk - she's unconscious. They literally carry her from house to house and rape her as well as letting other boys stick things into her. They video, they Instagram, they talk about this on Social Media and post this. They pose her naked unconscious body. Several videos show guys laughing how the victim was totally trained.

It's incredibly sad as the victim is SHAMED. The majority of the community is complicit in accepting this rape culture

Disgusting. 

Show me one woman who was trained consensuslly who wasn’t a porn actress or prostitute. 

I’m hoping these idiots are misinformed. Sad if that really happened to Kelly.

[KungFuBunny]

5 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

Disgusting. 

Show me one woman who was trained consensuslly who wasn’t a porn actress or prostitute. 

I’m hoping these idiots are misinformed. Sad if that really happened to Kelly.

I agree.

I think Vicki made this up and told Shannon and Tamra.

[UsernameFatigue]

All I know is that I do not watch this franchise to hear about the real or imagined sex lives of the howives. Also not interested in seeing fake lesbian kissing by women who are apparently desperate to hold on to their oranges. I would expect that from Tamra and Kelly, but not Shannon. I miss Vicki if only because the look on her face when Gina and Shannon were trying to kiss I am sure mirrored my own. Like others here, I am no prude. But this isn't why I watch the show. They might as well rename it Desperate Women of Orange County. 

Add in annoying Bronte, her icky husband and kit and kaboodle of kids, and I see nothing interesting about this season so far. At this point Shane is the smartest person in OC as he refuses to show up. 

Edited August 21, 2019 by UsernameFatigue

[AttackTurtle]

Didn't Vicky lose her mind on a ski hill about the rumor of her engaging in a threesome?  I can't stand Vicky.  I'm hoping that this season leads to her permanent departure.  Kelly is a nut, but she has moments of genuine kindness whereas I've never seen genuine kindness from Vicky.

It does seem as though these ladies are under some direction to be distant from Vicky.  Its just a little strange that she's included as an afterthought to these events.  

The whole Gina thing at Emily's house was weird and I think Emily was over it.  She was just tweedling her thumbs while Gina was "composing" herself.  

Shannon looks great, but I really wish that she wasn't so attached to Tamara.  The fact that she is on the outs with Kelly now is just stupid.  They seemed to be having a good time together.

[watcherwoman]

I don't like the new lady.  She looks like Kimberly from the first season RHOC a bit.  I wish Bravo would think outside the box once in awhile and not have the same skinny bleached blondes chosen every time to be the real ho wives.  

I think most of these women are doing some type of drug to remain a size zero.  Brawnwind has 7 kids??  I think that's more about setting up support for those kids if what's his name leaves her.  I'm cynical about all these bitches to be honest.  One is no better than the other.

Tamra, grandma, no, just no.  Poor Eddie has a heart problem and has to drink a bottle of wine to have sex with you, so stop torturing him and us with visions of you offering him  a night of anal.  Gawd....I just know that woman is getting mail from AARP.  Who was it last year that asked Tamra if she was Eddie's mother?   She'll never change!

[KungFuBunny]

Bwahahaha Reality Guy says Mr Braunwyn's jewlery is the IMMUNITY NECKLACE

Hey he looks a little like Jeff too - HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Psycho Suzy]

10 hours ago, QQQQ said:

Emily wanting to perform a dance for her husband seems very familiar. Which housewife did the same thing - another HW coached her with the sexy moves... I think it was at a party on a yacht...? (Please tell me this happened and I'm not going insane!)

Also, Stephanie of Dallas did kind of a sexy-time dance for her husband Travis, while popping out of a cake. She was being really silly though. 

[biakbiak]

Shane nixing the “sexy” dance idea will probably be the only thing I agree with him about but I thank him for saving us from having to see it. 

[Shellbell59]

Okay...still watching bits at a time (last week’s episode of Animal Kingdom ‘bout gave me a stroke) as I wait on heart procedure 🥴...so I’m pacing myself! Lol

Emily...in Cali York sweatshirt...I wasn’t familiar with brand (wear vintage mostly)...and since I’m from Cali and one branch of my fam is Stafford York (as in that old singer Jo Stafford dad’s cousin)...I looked it up. Cynthia Rowley...I’m not into tags...but such cute stuff...too bad I’m not petite!..dangit!!!!

happy she’s rocking a brand geared toward “petite” women. It pissed me off when I heard about the crap she was given about her size....I may not be a fan of hers...but that chapped my ass the things ppl say....oh and the old saying? TV Puts in 10-15 pounds?

I’d say more like 15-20 having lived in Ojai CA...being 3rd generation native..

.(a few or more of these Bravo shows have “spa weekended” there)...

several celebrity locals live there...and at Bayless (then Star now Westridge Midtown) Market...saw Stevie Nicks in her supposed “heavy” years...

Id wudda liked to be that kind of “heavy” at the time!!!! She and her “Gypsies” were darling!!!!

oh an Molly Shannon from SNL...

Both seemed no bigger than a minute to me...and I was no slouch (at the time...bwahaha 🤣😆)

props to E....(although I’m bored until you give Shane the “what for”... he seems like a dick)...

Just sayin...

Edited August 21, 2019 by Shellbell59

[ParadoxLost]

I rewatched that dinner.  There is nothing in there that indicates if Kelly confided in anyone .  The only thing that was said was Vicki's TH saying she, Tamra, and Shannon had discussed it off camera.

I think that Gina may have been also in on it.  She was a little too helpful in getting the conversation starting and egging it on.  If she wasn't in on it, then the implication of what Tamra said sailed by her.

Bronnwyn's reaction was one that leaned towards it being the first time she heard it and she did catch on to what "train" meant.

I co-sign with those who have said that this, if true, was very likely a sexual assault situation and if it wasn't its none of their or our business.  

I'm seriously thinking about whether I need to ditch this show.   

[chenoa333]

23 hours ago, Tipsymcstagger said:

Heidi's voice can’t even be saved with auto tune. What a joke. Zero singing talent. Like painful af. And I flove JBdouche saying how he digs her lyrics. I cannot wait until he ages out of his attitude and realizes how little he had going for him outside of his youth and “coolness”. Now THAT would be a reality show I’d watch. These losers in 10 years. When life really catches up...

1 hour ago, KungFuBunny said:

I agree.

I think Vicki made this up and told Shannon and Tamra.

Could be. Because Vicki KNOWS Tamara will take the ball and run with this rumor. Tamra will spread the rumor faster and wider than her legs when John Mayer is sitting next to her.

[Psycho Suzy]

8 hours ago, ErikaOnline said:

Tamra is funny to me lol she always has been my favorite. I didn’t mind the anal joke honestly lol #TeamTamra

Seriously? She is, if not my LEAST favorite howife, in my top 5 most vile list. She's so, so horrible; after "naked wasted," that nasty heifer was dead to me. Dead. To. Me.

And her nasty, abusive rat-faced degenerate son Ryan.

[Shellbell59]

49 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

Bwahahaha Reality Guy says Mr Braunwyn's jewlery is the IMMUNITY NECKLACE

Hey he looks a little like Jeff too - HAHAHAHAHAHA

Braunwyn husband is wearing a Maori Koru necklace...popular on the islands and obviously originating with the Maori ppl of New Zealand...the particular design is given when milestones are reached ..I think... (but I’m not sure).

we are a huge melting pot ppl...especially here...nobody seems to be FROM here (CA)...he may VERY WELL have lineage...

he has that wide eyed 👀 ...I haven’t yet seen his tongue 👅...but I love the culture..really do.

watch movie “The Whale Rider” everybody...if you haven’t already!

Edited August 21, 2019 by Shellbell59

[Showthyme]

20 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Shane is cheating!

There!  I said it! 🤗

Male or female? Not that it matters.

[AttackTurtle]

4 minutes ago, Psycho Suzy said:

Seriously? She is, if not my LEAST favorite howife, in my top 5 most vile list. She's so, so horrible; after "naked wasted," that nasty heifer was dead to me. Dead. To. Me.

And her nasty, abusive rat-faced degenerate son Ryan.

I have such a love/hate relationship with Tamara.  I think she's always understood what it takes to stay on the show.  Andy loves her shit stirring ways.  I actually like her relationship with Eddie, who I think seems to be a decent guy.  We don't see her kids, but the boy has been living with them full time for quite a while.  I really disliked Simon and he was just as responsible for that naked/wasted shit as Tamara.  I can't get past Ryan, but I understand her inability to just shun him.  Its her son for God's sake.  But he is so awful.

Tamara does win me over when she went on WWHL and  someone commented on her shoes and wanted to know the designer she happily said, "Jessica Simpson".  

I've quit Beverly Hills because it doesn't have one ounce of the appeal that it had in its first season.  Those women have absolutely nothing going on (that they will share) beyond the petty struggle to be Queen B.  I'd take ten Tamara's over one Kyle at this point.  

NY will always be my #1, but I can't quit OC.  The woman aren't particularly likable, but the issues are a heck of a lot easier to relate to.  

I am looking forward to Dallas.  It actually has two genuine real life friends in Stephanie (probably way too nice to be a howife) and Brandi and the Barbi doll has kind of grown on me with her ridiculous ways.  

[ParadoxLost]

3 minutes ago, Shannah Banana said:

Me too...well, I actually think I am going to ditch it.  That's pretty serious for a HoWives addict like me, but this show has become far too dark and filthy to enjoy.  I didn't even know what a train was, and had to go to the Urban dictionary to find out.  I don't really think my life has been enriched by the knowledge either, it makes me feel a bit queasy knowing it.  Makes me mad to ditch it too, because the best part is coming to the boards and chatting it all through.  I do wish more people would quit this cesspool because Bravo won't change their ways if they keep their ratings.  Oh well, I will somehow live 🙂

Same here.  I mostly watch because these boards are active while everything else is on a summer break.  But this cast is top to bottom vile and I'm feeling gross watching.  I think this is my line in the sand that I need to not cross.

[Shellbell59]

Please can someone help me...

im only at 46-47 minutes and Gina coming out door to greet Tamra....

are those houses on other side of door?...with huge empty lot that isn’t landscaped?... and backyards of neighbors across the way?

or is it some very clever artwork in her foyer...?

(Perhaps a painting/drawing that will change when I slightly squint my eyes and step back a few feet...to..see...THE STATUE OF LIBERTY”)!!!! Remember those...

seemed odd as if she was coming through door out of the breezeway or garage????

[Raiderred]

Brawny(paper towels) and her douchy husband can go now.  Talk about some skeevy try hards.  The spiral necklace🤣 is so cheesy and the meeting with their daughter seemed so rehearsed that I thought they didn't even know each other and they are all blood relatives. Yikes! 

OC is spiraling the drain for me.  It's getting extremely hard to watch. 

[OFDgal]

7 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

Best line of the night:

Eddie to Tamra "I don't want your anal". I loled

Tamra was true to form, she put just enough out there about Kelly, a mere hint, and the others jumped all over it. Now when Kelly gets pissed, Tamra can comfort her and rag on the others about putting Kelly's business out there and how Tamra is her only supportive friend. Lather rinse repeat, we've seen it all before. 

I actually feel bad for Emily, she is where Gina was last season, swearing that everything is hunky dory between her and her husband. Emily was pushing for a storyline with Shane in Vegas and he shut her down, much like Matt shut Gina down and refused to be on camera last season, saying his employer wouldn't allow it, when it was most likley cuz he didn't want cameras around while he carried on his affair. I read somewhere  that Matt got fired from his job anyway. Wonder what that's all about. I hope Gina makes enough from her gig on RHOC to support herself and her kids, because I'm suspecting she won't get much from Matt. 

And FTR, I don't think any of those harpies even know what a train is.

5

Trailer park Tammy Sue might.

[ErikaAlyson]

32 minutes ago, Psycho Suzy said:

Seriously? She is, if not my LEAST favorite howife, in my top 5 most vile list. She's so, so horrible; after "naked wasted," that nasty heifer was dead to me. Dead. To. Me.

And her nasty, abusive rat-faced degenerate son Ryan.

Awww Tamra has been through a lot. She’s had a rough life,kind of rags to riches story. I respect her honesty and she’s just trying to get by the only way I think she knows,which is being street smart and playing this “reality show game” to make money. I’ve always liked Ryan. He didn’t have his dad in his life and I think that made him bitter and resentful.

[Mar]

8 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Since production told her she need to in order for them all to have a storyline. "Tres Amiga's", right? I also believe production told her to befriend Brownbore immediately because they didn't want her on the outs with another new girl like she has done every time before. I don't believe Shannon cares about Vicki or the new one. Shannon is there for the $$ and so is that raunchy trash Tamra. 

Speaking of Tamra. Watching her grabbing Brownbore's tits and jiggling them (on two separate occasions) made me want to retch. She just met this woman! Then getting on the table top and all three 50 somethings dancing just screams of desperation to stay on the show. Top if off with promising Eddie anal and him making an ewwww face and declining her lovely offer was just too disgusting. I'm disappointed in Eddie. He used to stand up to Tamra, now it seems he's given in to her embarrassing antics because he knows they have a 2 million dollar Coto house to pay for. Next we are at the restaurant with the again 50 something bleached botoxed desperation women making out with each other. What in the fuck. BRAVO, it ain't cute or entertaining, or funny. 

Lastly, the kids. An entire scene of crying over kids with Shannon. Who gives a single fekk about Brownbore's kid stories and Shannon making it about herself. Not me. I don't give a shit. At all. 

And let’s not forget Tamra implying that her mother would give blow jobs at the “senior home”. Unbelievable. 

That scene at the restaurant was so obviously set up and not real. And the shrill drunken shrieking of the tres amigas has already gotten very very old. Clearly a desperate bid to stay on the show.

[Gem 10]

10 hours ago, Mr. Minor said:

So Kelly sends Icki a pig emoji, all of a sudden Kelly is snorting coke off of some guys dick while pulling a train? Vicki is so repulsive!

Seriously, can someone please tell me what all this stuff with Vikie and Kelly and the train mean in simple words?  I just don’t understand it at all.  I haven’t gotten to read all the comments yet.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Gem 10

[Mar]

6 hours ago, politichick said:

He got fired because he and Gina had a domestic assault scandal.

I don't like Gina and rarely agree with her, but I was totally with her when she wondered why the fuck Emily ever thought Shane would like her dancing in Vegas plan. That was completely nuts.

So, is this going to be gang up on Kelly season? I probably should know better, but I'm disappointed in Shannon. She needs to tone Fun Shannon down. I expect better than that from her. I wonder what her parents have to say about her participation on this show. The other day I was thinking she should move to Beverly Hills and join that cast.

Yes, she is trying so very, very hard to be FUN Shannon that it is clearly forced and exhausting to watch.

[Gem 10]

3 minutes ago, Mar said:

Yes, she is trying so very, very hard to be FUN Shannon that it is clearly forced and exhausting to watch.

YES to this.  Shannon was classy at one time.  Now, she is going nuts with the screaming, bar hopping, making out with guys at the bar, etc.  Hanging out with Kelly is doing her no favors.  She is acting stupid and will lose her reputation if she keeps it up.  No like Fun Shannon, at all.  She’s making a fool of herself.

[65mickey]

35 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

Seriously, can someone please tell me what all this stuff with Vikie and Kelly and the train mean in simple words?  I just don’t understand it at all.  I haven’t gotten to read all the comments yet.

Trust me you are better off not knowing.

[CrinkleCutCat]

1 hour ago, Gem 10 said:

Seriously, can someone please tell me what all this stuff with Vikie and Kelly and the train mean in simple words?  I just don’t understand it at all.  I haven’t gotten to read all the comments yet.

Can you read the comments? I don’t think anyone else wants to have to write it again!

Rats... I don’t want to sound mean.....

A train is when multiple men take turns having sex with the same woman one after the other. Worth reading all the comments as other posters raise all the issues around consent/intoxication/rape/morality/privacy.

edit: I didn’t know what this meant until I read the comments here!

Edited August 22, 2019 by CrinkleCutCat

[Claire Voyant]

1 hour ago, Gem 10 said:

YES to this.  Shannon was classy at one time.  Now, she is going nuts with the screaming, bar hopping, making out with guys at the bar, etc.  Hanging out with Kelly is doing her no favors.  She is acting stupid and will lose her reputation if she keeps it up.  No like Fun Shannon, at all.  She’s making a fool of herself.

Shannon has issues and I don't like how she's become a bit of a shit-stirrer. 

I notice this season she can barely wait for everyone to get together so she can tell, tell, tell what someone said about someone else.  WTF Shannon.  Let go of trying to be the popular girl and get away from the hen pecking.  

I hope she can pull herself together soon.  Her healing from her divorce has yet to finish.  She needs a lot more time to get herself together, but I doubt if those OC hags give  2 cents about her mental or emotional stability.  They've all been pretty iffy in the compassion department since day one.  Never any real empathy or caring from those harpies. 

Kelly came on the scene with guns blazing.  We are seeing some real Karma at work here.  The only thing about Kelly reaping what she's sown is that it's her daughter who's getting caught up in the combine and spit out with the chaff.  

Tamra.  I can't.  I really can't.  Her comments were down-right filthy and I experienced second-hand embarrassment for her dirty mouth which revealed an obviously depraved mind.  

I hope she gets herself back to her professed faith from a few seasons ago, because where she's at now appears to be a pretty bleak state of being.  No pride in herself whatsoever.    

Yep.  I think Gina had a lousy nose job.  That thing looks like a straw when they show her full face in her TH.  😲   I'm like...how does she breathe????  

 Brawn-loser and her husband are busy shilling whatever for their daughter and it's a little off-putting.   Let her go be a kid and deal with all the shit that comes with business later.   No wonder she had a break-down.  My concern is she may never be allowed to build herself back up before they break her, again. 

Vick the Ick is hopefully going to be phased out.  Can't be soon enough.  What a lying, pos, ugly, skank she is.  All the plastic surgery in the world isn't going to make her less revolting, either.   She's ugly inside and out. 

[amarante]

I am not even understanding the "horror" of the coke accusation. There was a period when it was impossible NOT to do coke and it's not some appalling horrible secret that indicates a complete lack of moral breakdown. It's not as if everyone was selling their body for a line :-).

It's as ridiculous as when people were attempting to hide that they smoked weed when there wasn't any self respecting person of a certain age who lived in LA or New York who didn't.

[Gem 10]

32 minutes ago, Claire Voyant said:

Shannon has issues and I don't like how she's become a bit of a shit-stirrer. 

I notice this season she can barely wait for everyone to get together so she can tell, tell, tell what someone said about someone else.  WTF Shannon.  Let go of trying to be the popular girl and get away from the hen pecking.  

I hope she can pull herself together soon.  Her healing from her divorce has yet to finish.  She needs a lot more time to get herself together, but I doubt if those OC hags give  2 cents about her mental or emotional stability.  They've all been pretty iffy in the compassion department since day one.  Never any real empathy or caring from those harpies. 

Kelly came on the scene with guns blazing.  We are seeing some real Karma at work here.  The only thing about Kelly reaping what she's sown is that it's her daughter who's getting caught up in the combine and spit out with the chaff.  

Tamra.  I can't.  I really can't.  Her comments were down-right filthy and I experienced second-hand embarrassment for her dirty mouth which revealed an obviously depraved mind.  

I hope she gets herself back to her professed faith from a few seasons ago, because where she's at now appears to be a pretty bleak state of being.  No pride in herself whatsoever.    

Yep.  I think Gina had a lousy nose job.  That thing looks like a straw when they show her full face in her TH.  😲   I'm like...how does she breathe????  

 Brawn-loser and her husband are busy shilling whatever for their daughter and it's a little off-putting.   Let her go be a kid and deal with all the shit that comes with business later.   No wonder she had a break-down.  My concern is she may never be allowed to build herself back up before they break her, again. 

Vick the Ick is hopefully going to be phased out.  Can't be soon enough.  What a lying, pos, ugly, skank she is.  All the plastic surgery in the world isn't going to make her less revolting, either.   She's ugly inside and out. 

Ha!  Couldn’t have said it better.  All of it.

[MajorNelson]

3 hours ago, Shellbell59 said:

Please can someone help me...

im only at 46-47 minutes and Gina coming out door to greet Tamra....

are those houses on other side of door?...with huge empty lot that isn’t landscaped?... and backyards of neighbors across the way?

or is it some very clever artwork in her foyer...?

(snip)

seemed odd as if she was coming through door out of the breezeway or garage????

You are right that is weird.  I vote for breezeway, and it looks right through to unfinished land and then other homes in the rear.  If this is her residence, seems attached btw.

OR.... production was some fake doors set up, and they just film scenes of people "conceivably" leaving "their home." 😮

[BluBrd47]

5 hours ago, Psycho Suzy said:

Also, Stephanie of Dallas did kind of a sexy-time dance for her husband Travis, while popping out of a cake. She was being really silly though. 

I totally thought of that! But it was actually kind of cute and retro. I feel like whatever Emily wanted to pull was like a full on striptease at a Vegas club. But I’m not sure!

[RHofOZ]

It’s been bugging me for the last 2 episodes who Braunwyn looks like.  She looks like Rachel Zoe!  

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, BluBrd47 said:

I totally thought of that! But it was actually kind of cute and retro. I feel like whatever Emily wanted to pull was like a full on striptease at a Vegas club. But I’m not sure!

You sure you're not thinking of Gretchen's performance at the PussyCat Lounge in Vegas?

She was supposed perform/sing/lip sync:  "You Give Me Fever" but she claimed she couldn't sing because she was screaming at Vicki at the 70's Costume party the night before. She also couldn't dance - she blamed that on not feeling well from losing her voice

[KungFuBunny]

33 minutes ago, RHofOZ said:

It’s been bugging me for the last 2 episodes who Braunwyn looks like.  She looks like Rachel Zoe!  

I totally see that - Itzz Bah-naa-naaz!

[ivygirl]

So everyone knew that Gina’s husband was having an affair...

Part of me says “well, duh,” but another says: why didn’t they say something to her? I mean, yes it would suck to hear, but I would hope that a friend would say something rather than just let the rumor fly around.

On another note, this season, and Gina's storyline in particular, would have been 1000x better if she’d gone Oran “Juice” Jones on him.

Edited August 22, 2019 by ivygirl

[hula-la]

1 hour ago, ivygirl said:

So everyone knew that Gina’s husband was having an affair...

Part of me says “well, duh,” but another says: why didn’t they say something to her? I mean, yes it would suck to hear, but I would hope that a friend would say something rather than just let the rumor fly around.

On another note, this season, and Gina's storyline in particular, would have been 1000x better if she’d gone Oran “Juice” Jones on him.

“this is my world, and you’re just a squirrel trying to get a nut”. 

[Shellbell59]

7 hours ago, AttackTurtle said:

I have such a love/hate relationship with Tamara.  I think she's always understood what it takes to stay on the show.  Andy loves her shit stirring ways.  I actually like her relationship with Eddie, who I think seems to be a decent guy.  We don't see her kids, but the boy has been living with them full time for quite a while.  I really disliked Simon and he was just as responsible for that naked/wasted shit as Tamara.  I can't get past Ryan, but I understand her inability to just shun him.  Its her son for God's sake.  But he is so awful.

Tamara does win me over when she went on WWHL and  someone commented on her shoes and wanted to know the designer she happily said, "Jessica Simpson".  

I've quit Beverly Hills because it doesn't have one ounce of the appeal that it had in its first season.  Those women have absolutely nothing going on (that they will share) beyond the petty struggle to be Queen B.  I'd take ten Tamara's over one Kyle at this point.  

NY will always be my #1, but I can't quit OC.  The woman aren't particularly likable, but the issues are a heck of a lot easier to relate to.  

I am looking forward to Dallas.  It actually has two genuine real life friends in Stephanie (probably way too nice to be a howife) and Brandi and the Barbi doll has kind of grown on me with her ridiculous ways.  

I completely understand the paradigm when it comes to HOwives...love to hate...hate to love...etc

liked at one time...now not? 

It just seems Tamra is trying too hard...cringeworthy actually how tight her grip is on staying “relevant” as they say ...or “cool”

Anal....really???? Cmon....

loved it when Eddie said I don’t want it...

(probably never had it...knows she’s all talk..would never do it....”all flirt no skirt” 

[chlban]

11 hours ago, Psycho Suzy said:

Seriously? She is, if not my LEAST favorite howife, in my top 5 most vile list. She's so, so horrible; after "naked wasted," that nasty heifer was dead to me. Dead. To. Me.

And her nasty, abusive rat-faced degenerate son Ryan.

Agree. I know we are all supposed to feel sorry for her since her daughter wants nothing to do with her but I don't. I feel sorry for all of her kids with Simon because they have to watch their trashy mother acting like the low life piece of garbage she is. I am 64, and have friendships dating back to elementary school, and have never been at a party where someone offered a spouse Anal in front of other people. Pure trash. I also noticed what others have mentioned, that Trashy Tammy was the one that threw that Train story out there, not Vickie. Would not be surprised if Tammy knows a thing or two about the subject, and not surprised if Kelly does. I live in the OC, and have a good friend in Coto. She is horrified that Tamara kerps talking about living there. She texted me while the show was on to say "I think my property value goes down about $50,000 everytime Tamara mentions living here". Best line of the night, as the ridiculous old broads danced on the bar, was Eddie: "This is why we don't have parties".

[chlban]

11 hours ago, AttackTurtle said:

I have such a love/hate relationship with Tamara.  I think she's always understood what it takes to stay on the show.  Andy loves her shit stirring ways.  I actually like her relationship with Eddie, who I think seems to be a decent guy.  We don't see her kids, but the boy has been living with them full time for quite a while.  I really disliked Simon and he was just as responsible for that naked/wasted shit as Tamara.  I can't get past Ryan, but I understand her inability to just shun him.  Its her son for God's sake.  But he is so awful.

Tamara does win me over when she went on WWHL and  someone commented on her shoes and wanted to know the designer she happily said, "Jessica Simpson".  

I've quit Beverly Hills because it doesn't have one ounce of the appeal that it had in its first season.  Those women have absolutely nothing going on (that they will share) beyond the petty struggle to be Queen B.  I'd take ten Tamara's over one Kyle at this point.  

NY will always be my #1, but I can't quit OC.  The woman aren't particularly likable, but the issues are a heck of a lot easier to relate to.  

I am looking forward to Dallas.  It actually has two genuine real life friends in Stephanie (probably way too nice to be a howife) and Brandi and the Barbi doll has kind of grown on me with her ridiculous ways.  

I have yet to make it through an entire episode of Dallas, but I will probably give it another shot. Also can't make it through Potomoc, long ago ditched NJ and Atlanta, and will not be watching BH unless they bring in a new cast and/or Nicollete Sheridan. OC was my first and I live here, so it is tough to ditch. But this show really has slipped into the gutter.

[melkel14]

16 hours ago, Carolina Girl said:

If they are discussing it as a "rumor" then Kelly isn't the one talking about it, I think.  $10 says it's another one of Icki's "people told me...."

If you watch the reunion from last season, after the coke allegation exploded and they were getting ready to go on a break, Tamra asks Vicki why she would say that and Vicki replies that she and Shannon were told about the coke and the train.  This isn't something new and all three have known about it since before the last reunion. 

[TV Diva Queen]

6 hours ago, hula-la said:

“this is my world, and you’re just a squirrel trying to get a nut”. 

I gave you things you couldn’t even pronounce. 

[Gem 10]

12 hours ago, Gem 10 said:

Seriously, can someone please tell me what all this stuff with Vikie and Kelly and the train mean in simple words?  I just don’t understand it at all.  I haven’t gotten to read all the comments yet.

Apologies to all you guys for being annoying by asking this question yesterday.  Had an accident in the house and we couldn’t stop the bleeding, so had to get it fixed up at the Doctors. 4 hours later, I came back on the board and didn’t even know where i left off and about the “ train .  😩

[Gem 10]

18 hours ago, TV Diva Queen said:

^^^^ this is a train.  

Thank you for that.  First time I have heard that. 😀

Edited August 22, 2019 by Gem 10

[Gem 10]

1 hour ago, chlban said:

I have yet to make it through an entire episode of Dallas, but I will probably give it another shot. Also can't make it through Potomoc, long ago ditched NJ and Atlanta, and will not be watching BH unless they bring in a new cast and/or Nicollete Sheridan. OC was my first and I live here, so it is tough to ditch. But this show really has slipped into the gutter.

Tell me about it.  When you’re on 3 threads at once, it’s so hard to read everything and keep up. Lol.

[Gem 10]

13 hours ago, Mar said:

And let’s not forget Tamra implying that her mother would give blow jobs at the “senior home”. Unbelievable. 

That scene at the restaurant was so obviously set up and not real. And the shrill drunken shrieking of the tres amigas has already gotten very very old. Clearly a desperate bid to stay on the show.

It ain’t working .. all of it.  Throw them all off and start anew.  They have exhausted every trick in the slobbery book.

[bichonblitz]

13 hours ago, Gem 10 said:

YES to this.  Shannon was classy at one time.  Now, she is going nuts with the screaming, bar hopping, making out with guys at the bar, etc.  Hanging out with Kelly is doing her no favors.  She is acting stupid and will lose her reputation if she keeps it up.  No like Fun Shannon, at all.  She’s making a fool of herself.

If she keeps this up I wonder how long her new boyfriend will stick around. 

[Mr. Miner]

16 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

I think Vicki made this up and told Shannon and Tamra.

Why not? She can't get any more despicable than she already is.

[KungFuBunny]

6 hours ago, Shellbell59 said:

I completely understand the paradigm when it comes to HOwives...love to hate...hate to love...etc

liked at one time...now not? 

It just seems Tamra is trying too hard...cringeworthy actually how tight her grip is on staying “relevant” as they say ...or “cool”

Anal....really???? Cmon....

loved it when Eddie said I don’t want it...

(probably never had it...knows she’s all talk..would never do it....”all flirt no skirt” 

Tamra is only concerned with her grip on an Orange.

Vicki was demoted. Braunwyn is NEW and has an Orange. She probably thinks with some of the other HWs (Emily, Kelly, Gina) Bravo may be headed for a younger cast.

So of course Tamra will buddy up to Braunwyn in a sexual manner (i.e. groping her boobs) IIRC in the RHOC season preview clip - Tamra is going to be making out with Gina. She thought herself to be the Hottest HW and that ship not only sailed it sank to the bottom of the ocean.

[amarante]

8 hours ago, Shellbell59 said:

I completely understand the paradigm when it comes to HOwives...love to hate...hate to love...etc

liked at one time...now not? 

It just seems Tamra is trying too hard...cringeworthy actually how tight her grip is on staying “relevant” as they say ...or “cool”

Anal....really???? Cmon....

loved it when Eddie said I don’t want it...

(probably never had it...knows she’s all talk..would never do it....”all flirt no skirt” 

Bravo does surveys after each season where one is asked various questions including who one sided with - do you want to see more or less or each person - which storylines were of interest - whether you would like the show more or less etc.

One of the questions is whether you love to hate the person - there are also questions regarding who people "like" - i.e. who is "real"; who you side with etc.

Although my answers seem to have no bearing on what turns up on the next season I do admit to taking pleasure in speaking my mind. 

There are some who are just beyond the pale who I just took no pleasure in watching because they were so awful. I think for me it's when they are really conning the audience and think they are getting away with that con. Vicki reached that category for me with the whole cancer scam including her attempt to use cancer to drive business to her insurance company. On the RHBH Dorit and her weasel of her husband are in that category for me because they are fronting a lifestyle when they don't have a pot to piss in. 

Tamra is a horrible person - vulgar to boot. But she is still in the category of love to hate because she is what she is and she never has presented any kind of image on screen or attempted to trick the audience into thinking that her life wasn't what it was. Not that I think she doesn't have a persona or that the show is truly "reality". But the Tamra character she plays on television is pretty much Tamra - her life is her life. I think the whole business of gasp - a $2 million dollar home is ridiculous because a $2 million dollar home in Orange County or Los Angeles is really not a big deal. "Normal" people live in a home that is $1 million dollars. Between her salary, whatever she gets as a social media influenster, side ventures in terms of paid appearances their income is more than enough to afford that home - it's not some kind of economic stretch in the way some of the housewives on various franchises live in fake homes or pretend to have lifestyles that aren't warranted by their income or assets. 

Edited August 22, 2019 by amarante