S06.E15: Ten Gallon Spats

[LotusFlower]

Anyone else see the First Look?  Not much juicy stuff to report...

 

In one spa - Kristen accompanied Carole to get a bikini wax, where Carole told her she called Russ to ask him about the rumor involving Sonja.  He said it never happened, that he respected her too much, etc...  In another spa, Aviva and Ramona are in a pool, and Aviva is setting the stage for copping out of the trip to Montana, citing newfound allergies and an onset of asthma.  But she tells Ramona that she really, really, really wants to go, since she was such a buzz kill on the last vacation (St. Bart's), and she wants to show the ladies her "fun side."  She says she'll decide after her next doctor's visit.

 

A brief scene with Sonja packing for the trip.  Or rather, her intern packing her underwear for the trip, with Sonja explaining how important lingerie is -- that's why it's called "foundation."  I guess that's why her interns get credits for their slave labor in Sonja's employ - you can't get this kind of education just anywhere.

 

Coming up next....Aviva throws her prescription bottles at Kristen when she's questioned about the dubious nature of her newly diagnosed asthma.            

[Lola16]

Why would anyone care what Aviva's reason is for staying home?  I'd be doing freaking cartwheels that Veevs wasn't going.

[LotusFlower]

Why would anyone care what Aviva's reason is for staying home?  I'd be doing freaking cartwheels that Veevs wasn't going.

Me, too.  But I guess Kristen planned this trip; she's the sort of de facto "host."  Or maybe she was just calling out Veevs for bailing, and Veevs got mad that her truthfulness was questioned again (Veevs to LuAnn: "If you're going to call me a liar, we're going to have a problem.")

 

It's always something with Aviva.  I think she's one of those people.  She must be exhausting to have in your life.

[GuiltyPleasures]

As a Montana native, I would say to Moaner and Veevs, with all due respect, go fuck yourselves, bitches.

[SFoster21]

Montana has always been a fantasy drstination for me after Lonesome Dove. The ignorance and xenophobia of housewives acrosse franchise is beyond pitiable. You don't want to go because there'll be "nothing to do"? As in no place to get drunk or what? Cause, frankly, that's all they seem to "do."  You can drink and act the fool anywhere.

And, Sonya, there are cowboys on dude ranches. You know, like "pirates." Or ships' pilots.

Edited June 13, 2014 by SFoster21

[SuzWhat]

I guess getting filmed getting waxed is now de rigueur for Housewives shows. How shocking! How funny! Except not. Hate.

[Rhetorica]

Reunion already?

From Andy's Twitter. Can't post the link.

getting PUMPED for the #RHONY reunion tomorrow. This is one I am looking forward to!

5:12pm - 12 Jun 14

[hoodooznoodooz]

I probably missed the discussion of this over on TWOP, but did Carole get fillers or have some other cosmetic surgery done to her face/cheeks? She looks the way she did last season, in the regular filming, interacting with the other cast members, but in her THs, which I guess they filmed later, her face looks very odd. Although I agree she could look a little haggard or gaunt, because she is so thin, in my opinion, she looked better (more natural) before the fillers.

I feel very, very sorry for Sonja's underwear. She probably should just buy disposable underwear. Was it my imagination or did Sonja pronounce "lingerie," like, three different ways while talking to Pickles?

Wow, Aviva can go from calm and fairly dignified to rabid, caged animal in a fraction of a second.

Kristin can be goofy, gossipy and melodramatic, but she can also look quite stunning. I would kill to have a body like hers.

Edited June 16, 2014 by hoodooznoodooz

[imjagain]

As a Montana native, I would say to Moaner and Veevs, with all due respect, go fuck yourselves, bitches.

I have never been but it looks gorgeous. It is my husband's plan for us to go one day. Every time he shows me pics I understand his dream vacation.

As my mother used to say only boring people get bored, Ramona complains about every destination.

She is so annoying!

[walnutqueen]

Ramona and her "there's no nightlife".  Bitch, please.  I would imagine there's more life in a Montana night than there ever was in a glass of your pathetic pinot grigio, not to mention your tiny little world.

[FozzyBear]

Ramona reminds me of an ex of mine. Small town boy so desperate to fit in with his big city friends. He didn't really have a lot of opinions himself so he would just parrot what he thought the cool kids would say. Unfortunately, he wasn't hugely smart (not dumb, just sort of average) and not that educated so he often got it hilariously, pretentiously wrong. It was like he got all his knowledge from Gossip Girl episodes. It was one of the reasons we broke up. I could not anymore with his random assertions that "everybody does this" or "nobody does that". Ramona has always had that quality to me. Very much the insecure, small town girl who is terrified of being found out by expressing a wrong opinion so she just repeats these nonsensical "facts" she's picked up God knows where. And I like Ramona.

[Wendy]

Rethorica I see you beat me to it, I was going to post that tweet from Andy.

I wonder how will it go. Reunions are always my favorite parts mainly because the editing and the plotting behind cameras are harder to carry on.

[Rhetorica]

Rethorica I see you beat me to it, I was going to post that tweet from Andy.

I wonder how will it go. Reunions are always my favorite parts mainly because the editing and the plotting behind cameras are harder to carry on.

I like the reunions until they all start screaming. I don't like screaming unless in an active participant....

I kid, I kid.

[Wendy]

I like the reunions until they all start screaming. I don't like screaming unless in an active participant....

I kid, I kid.

LOL, I hate when they scream too. I hated season 4 reunion mainly because of the screaming.

[Rhetorica]

Looks like Bravo moved RHONY to 10:00. They put The People's Couch at 9:00. Are ratings that bad?

[Rhetorica]

Reunion dirt! It's from NBN Rob so take it with a grain of salt.

http://www.naughtybutnicerob.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-reunion-inside-details/

[Lola16]

Reunion dirt! It's from NBN Rob so take it with a grain of salt.

http://www.naughtybutnicerob.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-reunion-inside-details/

Holy... Ramona looks like Dina Lohan in those pics.  That's not a compliment.

 

It feels a little early to be filming the reunion, doesn't it?  Usually they wait until there's 2-3 episodes left.  Are we there yet?  When do we get the lonesome leg?

[quaintirene]

I agree about Carole's face.  I just posted on her thread that I didn't think she'd done herself any favours.  Apparently NBN Rob's sources agree.  She does look a lot worse than she did before.  I wonder if she'll be back next season.  I think she could probably use the money but I don't think it's doing her celebrated 'career' any good.  And it certainly didn't help The Widow's Guide which is currently on its way to remainder oblivion...

[LovetoSnark]

Some things is really wrong with Carol's face..... it looks more than fillers... Finally Ramona in a different dress. http://www.realitytea.com/2014/06/13/real-housewives-of-new-york-reunion-films-today/

[Almost 3000]

It looks like Carole did the cheek puffing fillers that are currently all the rage and there are lots of ads running for it with a sizable list of side effects like lumps, bumps, swelling etc. The selling feature is a lifting of the cheeks and reduction of under eye hollowness. I think its pretty noticeable for those that do it.

[bosawks]

Is Carol storing Aviva's leg in her cheeks?

[hoodooznoodooz]

Thank you, quaintirene, LovetoSnark, Almost 3000, and bosawks, for confirming that I'm not imagining things. It perplexes me when women (& men, too) do this to themselves, thinking that it improves their appearance. Is there not one person in their lives who can be honest with them (I hope, before they go under the knife)?

Lola16: I agree. I would be so relieved to learn that Aviva would not be there to ruin the trip, describing her father's latest disgusting behavior or comment.

Edited June 16, 2014 by hoodooznoodooz

[Tara Ariano]

The ladies head to Montana, where they take part in a cattle drive. Later, there are beefs at dinner when LuAnn and Sonja clash over gossip spread by a facialist.

[Chicklet]

"Beefs at dinner", I like you Tara.

[quaintirene]

I wonder if people think they look good because they look at themselves in a mirror and so they only see a kind of snapshot of what they look like.  They don't see themselves talking or laughing so they don't pick up on the fact that their faces move oddly or look peculiar.  However Carole has now seen herself.  Maybe next time she'll spend a bit more money and go to a doctor with a more sophisticated and subtle way with his needle.  Because she looks like someone took a tire-inflator to her and it's not a good look at all!

[ryebread]

Maybe Carole had the work done while she was out at her house in L.A.  Seems to me, the surgeons in NYC are more subtle in their work whereas the surgeons in L.A. have an M.O.  Everybody ends up looking the same.  Puffed up lips, chipmunk cheeks and foreheads that don't move.  Overdone and overdone. 

[LilaFowler]

Is it true that the ratings are in the toilet?  I wonder if this will be the last season?

[zoeysmom]

Is it true that the ratings are in the toilet?  I wonder if this will be the last season?

The ratings are down but according to Andy Cohen, "we love this show."  I don't know who we is, but I do believe Fran Berwick likes her job too much to keep a fledgling show around without some major shakeups and/or guarantees of a successful season.  Her is a story about the RHONYC season to date ratings-it is a site created by Simon but it is based on numbers not his opinion http://bravoratings.com/2014/03/12/real-housewives-of-new-york-city-season-6-ratings/#more-8859

[Tararayne]

I am really frustrated. The Peoples Couch is NOT a 9pm show to me. Maybe late night after WWHL. It was cute for maybe a few minutes but this thing is an hour?? What happened to when Bravo showed the previous RH shows before the new episode? Last night, they showed Kandi's show before the new OC, and tonight they showed Kandi's show yet again before what I thought was the NY timeslot. The repeats leading up to a new episode got me in the mood for the new ep. I wonder why they're not doing that anymore?

[LilaFowler]

Yes, I wish they'd show the last week's episode right before.  I barely even remember what happened last week.

[motorcitymom65]

For fucks sake. Whoever it is at Bravo who has made the decision that we always need to see someone getting a bikini wax on each franchise needs to be fired pronto. 

[LilaFowler]

Sonja sounds like an idiot talking about Monaco and yachts and whatever, especially now.

[TexasGal]

Who knew lingerie = longereeeeeeeeeee?

[Higgins]

Kristen is insufferable.

[bosawks]

I'm with Reid that Aviva is a play it down kinda girl.

As a matter of fact when I think stoic and suffering in silence I think Aviva.....

Edited June 18, 2014 by bosawks

[beesknees]

I'm not feeling Kristin this season.  I hope they recast her.

[ryebread]

For fucks sake. Whoever it is at Bravo who has made the decision that we always need to see someone getting a bikini wax on each franchise needs to be fired pronto. 

I agree.  And whoever agrees to GET a bikini wax while being filmed should fire themselves.

And while we're at it, any Ho who goes into the room while another Ho is getting waxed can go, too. Does that really happen?

Didn't Kristen and Carole just meet this season?

Edited June 18, 2014 by ryebread

[AnnaL]

Kristen is insufferable.

I just can't take her constant nagging about everything.

[movingtargetgal]

Kristen, if Aviva says she is not going to Montana feel grateful you dodged a bullet.  Don't poke the crazy and challenge her.  With that level of insanity you just can't win.

[Rhetorica]

Josh....what a dad! He spends quality time with his children in the car on his way to drop them off at the grandparents so he can go to the Hamptons. Cause it's the last weekend of summer, doncha know.

[LilaFowler]

The only time bikini waxing was funny on Real Housewives was the early days OC, when Vicki took her random assistant for a makeover.  She and Jeana stood outside the door while the woman got waxed (for the first time) and laughed at her shrieking. 

[Chicklet]

I'll give Kristen this, she took a stick and poked the crazy hard. 

[LilaFowler]

It was pretty suspicious that Aviva even GOT A NOTE to get out of going to Montana.  WTF?  Who does that with a group of friends?  She's a pathological liar, that's why she knew she wouldn't be believed and got a note. 

[JAYJAY1979]

If Kristen had just believed Aviva, then we would have been spared Aviva's crazy meltdown thus taken away Aviva's only purpose for being on the show.  However, I do believe Aviva's claim of asthma since my mom developed it in her late 40s and it got worse as time went on so I'll give Aviva a pass on this one though the doctor's note and throwing her medicine around the store was a little OTT.

 

With that said, I thought Montana was beautiful but I could see how it would be a culture shock for some of these women.  I do like that Sonja was kind of a good sport.  While Sonja lost points with her segment on organzing her panties based on occasion and how she handled the gossip about LUann, but she gained a few points back with her facing her fear on getting back on the saddle, literally.

 

I do wonder why bikini waxes need to be shown but at least none of these housewives are talking about having a baby, or wanting a baby...yet :)

Edited June 18, 2014 by JAYJAY1979

[copacabana]

Kristen didn't do herself any favors baiting Aviva.  Why bother?  Thank your lucky stars.  Reid had the air of someone willing to say ANYTHING to placate his borderline personality wife.  She's pathological in a totally unfun way.  

 

Josh is not a keeper--Josh is a jerk.  That child needs to scoop up those kids, find herself an Elvis impersonator up to snuff and kiss his ass goodbye. I wonder sometimes if she's not injecting herself into every situation now in a desperate attempt to provide a life line for herself.   Steady Bravo employment, whatever that means, might mean being able to make new life for herself and get out.  She's still young and very beautiful. 

 

Every single time I think I couldn't possibly dislike Ramona any more than I already do, she comes through for me.  Her Ugly American routine is super tough to take when she's abroad -- When she manages to do it in her own country, I want to reach in through the screen and show her the exit door.  Seriously, she needs to go. 

 

Montana is Big Sky Country and absolutely beautiful.  I would love to go there and spend any time at all.  

 

They need to find some more likable folks for RHONYC.  Too many of these people are just detestable -- Ramona, Aviva, George, Josh.  These are toxic folks and they alter the chemistry in a way that makes the show unpleasant to watch.  

 

Wish Sonja would find herself a real cowboy and settle down.  She could work on her official cowgirl lingerie selections -- the Missoula wardrobe -- and learn how to pronounce lingerie.  Cowboys are the true aristocrats.  She could stop with the rode hard and put away wet routine and concentrate on getting her sanity back.

[Tararayne]

Is it appropriate for a married man to go party in the Hamptons for the weekend without his wife and children? Why do you need to go party just because it's the last weekend of summer? Who are you trying to impress? And who are you going to be with? And there's "no part" of you that wants to spend the weekend with your children? Josh is disgusting to me. I've seen no redeeming qualities in him whatsoever.

[Chicklet]

Ramona telling other people to let things slide off their backs amuses me somewhat. And wth is with going hiking and working cattle with purses? Is this a new fashion that I never heard of? Seriously Golden Girls move Ramona.

[howiveaddict]

 

It was pretty suspicious that Aviva even GOT A NOTE to get out of going to Montana.  WTF?  Who does that with a group of friends?  She's a pathological liar, that's why she knew she wouldn't be believed and got a note.

I figured the note was really for production to get Aviva out of the trip.  I also remember her using the Asthma malady last season.  Among her other numerous complaints.  Funny we never hear her coughing.  

Did Ramona say she had xanax and valium?  Wonder if she doctor shops, cause a decent doctor would not prescribe both.  Her and those stuffed animals in her face.  They looked to be up high on shelves in the airport.  

I like LuAnn would not appreciate my facialist gossiping about me.  She's right on that one.  

Would love to go to Montana.  Ramona acted like it was a third world country.

 

Edited to add:  That asthma medicine was not newly acquired.  That zip lock bag she had it in was dingy and dirty looking.  Like her meds had been in it for a while.  I've had baggies like that before for my meds.  Also she mentioned something about the city air affecting her breathing.  Seems like a trip to pristine air would be good for her lungs.  Also there is an asthma hospital in Colorado. I have had patients who have been to it.  So no excuse on the altitude.  Can't believe she had a wheelchair waiting for her at the airport.  I actually laughed out loud at that.

Those women really dodged a bullet with her not going.

 Loved Kristen letting Aviva have it though.  I would be pissed too if my job required me to take a trip and a co worker got out of going with a febile excuse.  That is exactly what happened.

Edited June 18, 2014 by howiveaddict

[HunterHunted]

Unless Aviva took a carriage over to the boot shop, there is no reason that she needed her horse asthma medication with her. As much as I can't stand Josh (and I really can't) he was hilarious cracking on Aviva's obvious bullshit. Despite the fact that she plays down all of her illnesses, I can't help but recall all of the times Aviva has brought up all of her many illnesses.

The cabins were great and they appeared to have chefs during the hat shopping interstitial.

The trip seemed to be mostly fun. And the thing that I've learned about housewives trips is that there needs to be no alternative form of entertainment for the housewives to make the trips entertaining for the viewer.

[Sun-Bun]

Is it appropriate for a married man to go party in the Hamptons for the weekend without his wife and children? Why do you need to go party just because it's the last weekend of summer? Who are you trying to impress? And who are you going to be with? And there's "no part" of you that wants to spend the weekend with your children? Josh is disgusting to me. I've seen no redeeming qualities in him whatsoever.

Seriously!!!

Why did he even agree to have children? Is he just using his children as accessories for his "American Dream" status?? Or did he agree to play sperm donor just to placate Kristen, or does he genuinely even care about fatherhood???

Because between his lack of attention to his daughter during her therapy session, his constant need to "go to the office" at random hours, and not wanting to spend any extra time with his children than necessary, he seems like he completely checked out of playing the doting dad role years ago. I have yet to notice one genuinely warm onscreen moment/interaction between him and his children this entire season, actually.

I dunno, maybe it's weird to me and most other wives, but I'd be a little suspicious about my husband eagerly ditching the kids to go party in the Hamptons while I was off on a rare girls' trip. Maybe he calls it "networking" for his business, but I just call it Peter Pan Syndrome.

See what happens when you marry and procreate mostly for money/status, folks??

I see a lot of heartache in Kristen's future; sure, she's a whiny bag of nags herself, but she married quite ye olde royal douchelord in her desperation to couple up.