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4 hours ago, druzy said:

Jenelle continues to sell stories and profit off of Nugget's murder.

Now TMZ is reporting that UBT is seeking anger management. Maybe he should have done that when he pushed his pregnant girlfriend out of a car.

He’s so full of shit. Someone this messed up doesn’t just go to a few hours of anger management and all the sudden he’s Mr. Rogers. Fuck them both. This is just damage control and complete bullshit. 

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I’m just thinking...in Jenelle’s texts she said David was already freaking out because he was supposedly going to jail for the back child support. I wonder if Jenelle had previously refused to pay it for him so he retaliated by staging the “attack” on Ensley and murdering her dog in order to intimidate Jenelle into giving him the money. 

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40 minutes ago, Everleigh said:

I’m just thinking...in Jenelle’s texts she said David was already freaking out because he was supposedly going to jail for the back child support. I wonder if Jenelle had previously refused to pay it for him so he retaliated by staging the “attack” on Ensley and murdering her dog in order to intimidate Jenelle into giving him the money. 

This is possible. 

Snowball II

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40 minutes ago, Everleigh said:

I’m just thinking...in Jenelle’s texts she said David was already freaking out because he was supposedly going to jail for the back child support. I wonder if Jenelle had previously refused to pay it for him so he retaliated by staging the “attack” on Ensley and murdering her dog in order to intimidate Jenelle into giving him the money. 

I think that's giving him too much credit.  I think killing Nugget was most definitely a message to Jenelle, but I doubt David is that calculating.  He's just a psychopath.

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7 minutes ago, Lemons said:

I don’t doubt it. As much as MTV has profited from Jenelle’s craziness this crossed the line.  People don’t want to see this. 

Not to mention, they've lost advertisers.  That's what really hurt them.

I think Jenelle might go down as the absolute worst mom in TM history.  Sure, we've had others who really pushed the envelope when it came to child endangerment and trashiness, but Jenelle married a man who killed her pet dog in cold blood while there were children, at the house.  That's a whole new level of scumbag the others haven't even touched.  And, to top it all off, she doesn't give a shit.  She's whining about missing her poor dog on social media like it died of old age, and already making excuses for her shitbag husband.  I haven't watched the show in years, so feel free to correct me if another mom has done something worse, but I would be very surprised to hear if any of them have.  Jenelle is fucked, David is fucked, and their kids don't stand a chance with those two as parents.  Congrats, Jenelle, you "win". **slow clap**

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Would you want to film anywhere near him?  I know he's not on the show, but who knows if he trolls or spies on Jenelle as she films (from a distance).  Wondering if the production company or crew said no way do we film with her now. If he's killed a small animal without so much as a blink, it's not a far step up to shoot a human.

So you have public outrage, then I'm sure the crew has to be providing input.  I think she's done.  Even if she divorced him, I bet he'd still troll her for ages.  Smartest thing would be for her to move far away.  But no one ever said she was smart.  I hope Barb, Nathan, his mom, his ex have security measures in place, and I hope those kids are removed from the home NOW.

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He's become even more dangerous now cause when people like him realize they've lost control (and I think he really thought he still had some control over MTV) they sometimes decide to go out in a blaze of glory.  I could totally see him killing everyone on the land, anybody else who has pissed him off, and shooting up a public place full of people he doesnt know at all before turning the gun on himself.  He is that scary to me.  The fact that production wont even film in their entire states because of him, says tons.  I hope I'm wrong, but I would not be surprised.   This also assumes the article's true that she's been fired and they've lost their sole income,  but nothings confirmed yet. 

How long do you all think it would take MTV to announce if she were fired? I kinda think theyd have confirmed by now.  

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20 hours ago, eskimo said:

He's become even more dangerous now cause when people like him realize they've lost control (and I think he really thought he still had some control over MTV) they sometimes decide to go out in a blaze of glory.  I could totally see him killing everyone on the land, anybody else who has pissed him off, and shooting up a public place full of people he doesnt know at all before turning the gun on himself.  He is that scary to me.  The fact that production wont even film in their entire statestate because of him, says tons.  I hope I'm wrong, but I would not be surprised.

The guy is a dangerous sociopath and may even be a psychopath at this point. Killing animals for pleasure is a sign of a psychopath. MTV should fire Jenelle just due to the danger David brings to the table. The guns, the stalking of the production team, the threats...what more do they need??? GROW A PAIR MTV and fire Jenelle! She might have to actually go out and get a job for the first time in her life.

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31 minutes ago, hoosier80 said:

Would you want to film anywhere near him?  I know he's not on the show, but who knows if he trolls or spies on Jenelle as she films (from a distance).  Wondering if the production company or crew said no way do we film with her now. If he's killed a small animal without so much as a blink, it's not a far step up to shoot a human.

So you have public outrage, then I'm sure the crew has to be providing input.  I think she's done.  Even if she divorced him, I bet he'd still troll her for ages.  Smartest thing would be for her to move far away.  But no one ever said she was smart.  I hope Barb, Nathan, his mom, his ex have security measures in place, and I hope those kids are removed from the home NOW.

That would scare me to death as well. Remember when Barb was waiting on Jenelle so they could film and Dave showed up with her? Production had to scramble to shut everything down. Dave knew he wasn't supposed to be there, he just wanted to give the big F.U. to MTV and mess up their schedule. Now he's so unstable he violently killed a dog, there's no telling what else he would do.

Not only does the crew no longer film on the Land, they won't even film in the State. If all these events combined aren't a wakeup call that this situation has gotten totally out of control, I don't know what is. MTV is insane if they don't cut Jenelle loose.

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7 minutes ago, kicksave said:

The guy is a dangerous sociopath and may even be a psychopath at this point. Killing animals for pleasure is a sign of a psychopath. MTV should not resign Jenelle just due to the danger David brings to the table. The guns, the stalking of the production team, the threats...what more do they need??? GROW A PAIR MTV and fire Jenelle! She might have to actually go out and get a job for the first time in her life.

Wishful thinking about her being forced to have to get a real job.  She will first try to sue MTV, when that goes no where she will most likely go straight to SSI claiming disability, you know, all her ailments and mental issues.  She’ll be on welfare in no time.  Maybe dabble in porn.  But I do not see Jenelle or David actually sucking it up and becoming wage earning individuals.  

Even if they did, could you see them retaining employment?  They can’t get along with ANYONE.  

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Jennifersdc

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Mr. DC is very upset I shared this story with him. He - probably like me actually, would prefer not to have known. 

David Eason is a psychopathic POS (like the Dothraki say - “it is known”). This has nothing to do with “beliefs” Jenelle - you dumb POS. People also “believed” it was right to keep people as slaves or throw Jews into gas showers.

Maybe a little extreme comparison I admit. But you get the idea. I actually don’t know anywhere in the United States right now it’s considered OK to beat and shoot your family dog to death. It was a fucking Frenchie for Sweet Baby Jesus sake, not a Presa Canario. Would have been snapped up in two minutes on a French Bulldog rescue site (take a look). 

MTV and Morgan Freeman (hate he has that name) don’t give a shit actually. Morgan’s probably too busy fulfilling his devotion to social justice concerns Tweeting about Trump. Fucking hypocrite.

Color me surprised! Also see David Eason shooting a family pet. Seriously - after the initial horror, were any of us really shocked this happened?

It really upsets me too much. I read all the previous comments. Too upset to like (most) or laugh even more than a few times (thanks for those).

Unless he gets arrested, I don’t think I can post again about it. I love and miss ya’ll - but I left this board for a reason. Highly recommend RHNY, Love After Lockup and 90 Day Fiancé (all 8,000 versions) for more lighthearted snarky fun.

And then of course - there’s still Farrah. I’ll hold back pet comments -  #FreeStarburst#TooLateForBlue.

I still proudly have a Handbasket to Hell😀

Thanks for keeping up the Fort! I’ll still be reading! Quit for good three episodes in this season. Is there a sobriety chip for that?

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1 hour ago, eskimo said:

How long do you all think it would take MTV to announce if she were fired?  I kinda think they’d have confirmed it by now.

My guess is this - Since Jenelle is apparently back on The Land,  I’m thinking they want to convince her (and the kids) to leave, maybe even with assistance from Barb, before they put out a statement condemning David or addressing Jenelle’s contract.    They’re probably worried about how David might react if/when he gets bad news.  With all the guns stockpiled on the property, it’s a fucking scary situation.  Even the Sherrif’s Office is afraid to show up there!  Or am I giving MTV too much credit?  IDK, I just don’t see how they can ignore something this dangerous and serious.  I think something must be in the works, and maybe Jenelle not being cooperative or not answering calls/texts is part of the hold-up.  

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52 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

Wishful thinking about her being forced to have to get a real job.  She will first try to sue MTV, when that goes no where she will most likely go straight to SSI claiming disability, you know, all her ailments and mental issues.  She’ll be on welfare in no time.  Maybe dabble in porn.  But I do not see Jenelle or David actually sucking it up and becoming wage earning individuals.  

Even if they did, could you see them retaining employment?  They can’t get along with ANYONE.  

I don't  think either of them are even employable at this point. Both of them have enough mugshots to fill a calendar,  and every sordid detail of their lives is out on the internet for  an employer to see. Even Walmart wouldn't  hire Jenelle( which is funny considering she mocked Barb for working there) and Lurch apparently has a history of getting fired from every job he's ever had( someone dug up his old Twitter post where he complained about being fired).

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14 minutes ago, FlowerofCarnage said:

I don't  think either of them are even employable at this point. Both of them have enough mugshots to fill a calendar,  and every sordid detail of their lives is out on the internet for  an employer to see. Even Walmart wouldn't  hire Jenelle( which is funny considering she mocked Barb for working there) and Lurch apparently has a history of getting fired from every job he's ever had( someone dug up his old Twitter post where he complained about being fired).

I can't see it either. Not only does Dave have a calender's worth of mug shots, there's a trail of Instagram posts documenting his racism and bigotry, along with the recent animal cruelty. No business is going to incur a shitstorm of bad publicity to give Dave a minimum wage job that could be filled by virtually anyone.

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2 hours ago, eskimo said:

He's become even more dangerous now cause when people like him realize they've lost control (and I think he really thought he still had some control over MTV) they sometimes decide to go out in a blaze of glory.  I could totally see him killing everyone on the land, anybody else who has pissed him off, and shooting up a public place full of people he doesnt know at all before turning the gun on himself.  He is that scary to me.  The fact that production wont even film in their entire states because of him, says tons.  I hope I'm wrong, but I would not be surprised.   This also assumes the article's true that she's been fired and they've lost their sole income,  but nothings confirmed yet. 

How long do you all think it would take MTV to announce if she were fired? I kinda think theyd have confirmed by now.  

You are absolutely right. Nothing is too insane for him, now that he's probably actually killed the proverbial goose. He and Jenelle are undoubtedly fighting, money's running low, I just pray for those kids. 

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David Eason, the husband of "Teen Mom 2" star Jenelle Evans, is the most dangerous man in the 3 counties surrounding their home ... and that's from an official in the Columbus County Sherrif's Dept.

A source directly connected to the dog-killing investigation tells TMZ, the Sheriff's official contacted this person saying, "He [David] is the most dangerous person we've seen in the 3 counties," but there's nothing they can do unless Jenelle wants to take action against her husband.

As we reported, David viciously killed their French Bulldog this week after the animal nipped at his 2-year-old daughter ... a nip which, by the way, didn't even break the skin or draw blood. We're told he threw the dog on the back deck before killing it with a shotgun.

Our sources say the Sheriff's Office has been informed David has also shot at Janelle's pit bull with a BB gun for chasing animals on the property.

And, we're told, relatives believe Janelle won't file a restraining order or take other action against David "because she's afraid of him."

We're told the Sheriff's Office has told people involved in the family they are sympathetic to them but just can't do anything without Janelle's cooperation. They also say they can't go on the property without permission and David has made it clear ... law enforcement is not welcome. The Sheriff's official who spoke with our source fears David will do something "way more horrible" if he isn't stopped. 

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This is going to end badly. Very badly. 

As much as I loathe MTV right now, I feel like they're in a no-win situation. Keep Jenelle and they contribute to the abuse and disfunction. Fire Jenelle and they risk Dave killing everyone in an explosion of rage. I honestly don't know how they begin to handle it. Any ideas? Is it a "lesser of two evils" deal at this point?

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2 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

This is going to end badly. Very badly. 

As much as I loathe MTV right now, I feel like they're in a no-win situation. Keep Jenelle and they contribute to the abuse and disfunction. Fire Jenelle and they risk Dave killing everyone in an explosion of rage. I honestly don't know how they begin to handle it. Any ideas? Is it a "lesser of two evils" deal at this point?

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Maybe it's because I watch a lot of TV but can't the police can go on their property if they have a warrant?? They sound like they're really scared of David. If they have cause to go to the land and search, I'm sure someone will give them the proper paperwork to do so. I had no idea people could just tell the police they can't come on their property and the police say "okay". What kind of shit is that??

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36 minutes ago, MitaJo said:

Maybe it's because I watch a lot of TV but can't the police can go on their property if they have a warrant?? They sound like they're really scared of David. If they have cause to go to the land and search, I'm sure someone will give them the proper paperwork to do so. I had no idea people could just tell the police they can't come on their property and the police say "okay". What kind of shit is that??

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1 hour ago, MitaJo said:

Maybe it's because I watch a lot of TV but can't the police can go on their property if they have a warrant?? They sound like they're really scared of David. If they have cause to go to the land and search, I'm sure someone will give them the proper paperwork to do so. I had no idea people could just tell the police they can't come on their property and the police say "okay". What kind of shit is that??

They don't think murdering a dog is important enough to get a warrant?  I don't get it either.

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9 hours ago, allienc said:

Christine Elise who played Emily Valentine on 90210 way back in the day has posted the petition against David on her Insta. This is far reaching... hopefully it helps get them off TV,

I saw the petition posted on a gossip site, where most of the posters never heard of these two before. People signing like crazy after reading the story.

Jenelle and David are finally done, IMO.I

ETA: it's tough to get a search warrant; there has to be rock solid, probable cause. They have no complainant and no evidence here so far.

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Well, apparently things are “back to normal” on The Laaaand. She’s collecting eggs and having gallons of coffee according to her Instagram stories this morning. I guess him promising to do anger management classes, at some point in the distant future, has made him acting like a complete sociopath by completely overrreacting and beating and shooting their 12lb dog in front of her and her kids because she nipped at their daughter who was getting in her face everything just fine again. It’s been less than a week and these are the hillbilly’s “beliefs” and all, no need to make a big deal or create more drama. So fucking angry that she couldn’t even make a pretence of staying away for even a week to “think things over”. 

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4 hours ago, blubld43 said:

They have no complainant

And right there is the big issue: Janelle is complicit in the act if she refuses to file a complaint with the police. Which she won't do because a.) she's never leaving him and b.) she never gave a shit about the dog (or her kids for that matter) in the first place. 

But you do you, MTV. Fire Farrah the sex worker (sex = bad!) and reward Jenelle for her complicity in the torture and killing of her dog because it's going to bring great ratings for you.

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She had the perfect opportunity to get the hell away when he was about to be jailed for not paying child support. She could have gone home, called the cops, made a statement and given them every weapon he owns. Then, filed for a protective order and got things in order while he was in jail. Before he was released, she could have moved out and asked for police protection. MTV offered to help her in any way possible. Instead, she paid his back child support and is playing happy family again. Bitch deserves everything coming her way.

The only thing I care about is Kaiser. The judge in the custody case is done with Jenelle's lawyer requesting continuance and said no more. The hearing will happen on May 30. I hope Nathan is able to get Kaiser out of that hell hole and, after that, I don't give a shit.

The killing of Nugget has created such a firestorm of hatred for UBT, I don't think it's safe for him to even go out to get the mail. It wouldn't surprise me at all to hear that someone blows his head off in the local Wal-Mart parking lot. I would chip in for that person's defense fund.

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28 minutes ago, lovesnark said:

in the custody case is done with Jenelle's lawyer requesting continuance and said no more. The hearing will happen on May 30. I hope Nathan is able to get Kaiser out of that hell hole and, after that, I don't give a shit.

If Jenelle stays with the creep, this is the only way to bring the law into this picture.  I hope it works.

1 hour ago, Booger666 said:

And this is why MTV needs to fire her and tell her if she ever wants to get a RO for her and the kids they will pay for a lawyer and walk away.  Enough already.

This is a good plan, and a smart way to address the situation.  I hope it’s happening.  

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You know, this is the perfect opportunity for Jenelle to blow him away. Plop the kids in front of the TV with the volume turned up (as usual) and start an argument somewhere away from the house. Shoot him, then call the cops and say he was coming at her again. She'd claim battered wife syndrome and would probably get off with probation. Too bad she's too brainwashed and ignorant to see the situation for what it is.

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1 hour ago, lovesnark said:

She had the perfect opportunity to get the hell away when he was about to be jailed for not paying child support. She could have gone home, called the cops, made a statement and given them every weapon he owns. Then, filed for a protective order and got things in order while he was in jail. Before he was released, she could have moved out and asked for police protection. MTV offered to help her in any way possible. Instead, she paid his back child support and is playing happy family again. Bitch deserves everything coming her way.

The only thing I care about is Kaiser. The judge in the custody case is done with Jenelle's lawyer requesting continuance and said no more. The hearing will happen on May 30. I hope Nathan is able to get Kaiser out of that hell hole and, after that, I don't give a shit.

The killing of Nugget has created such a firestorm of hatred for UBT, I don't think it's safe for him to even go out to get the mail. It wouldn't surprise me at all to hear that someone blows his head off in the local Wal-Mart parking lot. I would chip in for that person's defense fund.

I was thinking the same thing with regards to why didn’t she just let him go to jail.   She is never going to leave him.

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16 hours ago, MitaJo said:

Maybe it's because I watch a lot of TV but can't the police can go on their property if they have a warrant?? They sound like they're really scared of David. If they have cause to go to the land and search, I'm sure someone will give them the proper paperwork to do so. I had no idea people could just tell the police they can't come on their property and the police say "okay". What kind of shit is that??

They would have to go in with a SWAT team and try to get Jenelle and the kids out safely. David is a clear and present danger to Jenelle and the kids and all the surrounding neighbors. I think David is so dangerous that he would hold Jenelle and the kids hostage or kill them all before throwing his hands up and surrendering. Hope the authorities are coming up with a plan to extricate Jenelle and the kids safely AND arrest David...but this has all the potential of being a VERY violent confrontation.

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2 hours ago, Giant Misfit said:

And right there is the big issue: Janelle is complicit in the act if she refuses to file a complaint with the police. Which she won't do because a.) she's never leaving him and b.) she never gave a shit about the dog (or her kids for that matter) in the first place. 

But you do you, MTV. Fire Farrah the sex worker (sex = bad!) and reward Jenelle for her complicity in the torture and killing of her dog because it's going to bring great ratings for you.

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While I agree with everything you wrote I would like to add to the Farrah firing...it wasn't just the porn stuff it was also her horrible attitude. She made it impossible for anybody to work with her. She was beyond difficult and we witnessed her Borderline Personality Disorder get worse and worse...ie: the way she yelled at and humiliated the tutor for Sophia was one example amongst many. I think MTV had enough of her, her toxic behavior and porn work. Frankly...I don't miss her one bit but I do worry about Sophia and what is going to happen with her. But this thing with Jenelle and David is clear cut. MTV should ditch these two NOW...they might end up being held liable if anything transpires during a shoot. Surprised the legal team from MTV isn't jumping in and putting an end to this.

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David has really brainwashed Jenelle by justifying all his scary, abusive actions by saying they are his "beliefs".  That's one of the things I find the most unsettling about this incident, and about David, in general.  He has her completely under his thumb with this fabricated, psycho-billy doctrine.  It's so dark, and so bizarre.

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30 minutes ago, Mkay said:

David is posting on Snapchat. 

David is now denying that he has an anger problem, and denying the “seeking anger management treatment” story that was put out there to save Jenelle’s job!  

He’s stupid in addition to racist and crazy.  Looking forward to watching them try to live on no income!  

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2 hours ago, kicksave said:

They would have to go in with a SWAT team and try to get Jenelle and the kids out safely. David is a clear and present danger to Jenelle and the kids and all the surrounding neighbors. I think David is so dangerous that he would hold Jenelle and the kids hostage or kill them all before throwing his hands up and surrendering. Hope the authorities are coming up with a plan to extricate Jenelle and the kids safely AND arrest David...but this has all the potential of being a VERY violent confrontation.

Sadly, I believe you may be right. David likely has control of that household, including the finances and access to Janelle’s phone and passwords. It may be difficult for Jenelle to orchestrate leaving, assuming she wants to. She may be clinging to hope that this will all blow over and they ( she and the asshole) will go back to their dysfunctional “normal.”

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Everyone knows Ensley does not have Down syndrome. Posts suggesting that she does will be removed and warnings issued. Posts such as these leave the impression that an arguably unflattering picture could somehow be construed as a child being disabled is considered ableist and is against the rules of the board.

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