The View in the Media

[Brooklynista]

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/cosby-show-actor-declares-course-bill-cosby-guilty-200545435.html

 

Perhaps hearing it from a man who thinks Cosby is guilty will help cement the idea in Whoopie's brain.

[geekburger]

This people behind this scenes continue to go out of their way to not know how to make an interesting show.

 

The dumbing down continues. Bring on the Not Topics!

[mtlchick]

Au revoir Nicolle.  http://deadline.com/2015/07/nicolle-wallace-leaving-the-view-co-host-1201476527/ 

 

It's official: Whoopi and cockroaches will be the only things to survive the apocalypse that is this show. 

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Wow!  Is that why she wasn't on the show today?   

[Medicine Crow]

I wonder how The Whoopster will survive without her Chief Whoopette, Nic-hole.  Should be interesting!!!

[springtime]

OMG- Can things get any worse?

 

An hour long infomercial would be better than The Whoopi and Raven Hour!

 

 

[Morbs]

 

She's lucky to get a gig...even part-time that gives her national exposure and probably pays more than ANY other jobs (combined) she has had lately.  I'm sure she's praising her god several times a day.

 

I realize Sherri is lucky to get a steady paycheck again, no doubt she's an idiot with finances, I just mean it's sad for her career to go backwards meaning she was on a network talk show for 8 years, she should have been able to parlay that into recurring if not regular sitcom work or character parts in movies, that obviously hasn't happened.  Sherri even hinted she wanted her own talkshow and BW told her she should do it haha, I think Sherri is a capable sitcom sideplayer and I hoped after The View she would pursue projects to her strengths (I can picture her on a Shonda Rhimes show where people overact a bit), but her notoriously stupid run on The View and fucked up personal life probably turns her off to producers.

 

I bet they offered Nicolle the chance to return if like someone is sick; I bet they keep the rotating host to more well known people they just don't want to pay a lot like Candace Cameron and Molly Sims.

Edited July 16, 2015 by Morbs

[Cosmocrush]

Au revoir Nicolle.  http://deadline.com/2015/07/nicolle-wallace-leaving-the-view-co-host-1201476527/

 

It's official: Whoopi and cockroaches will be the only things to survive the apocalypse that is this show. 

  I love the headline:

 

Nicolle Wallace Axed As ‘The View’ Regular After Proving Herself Insufficiently Shrill And Kardashian Illiterate

 

 Also, not an actress, a slob, or uneducated.   No room at the table for a professional political talking head with a degree in broadcast journalism, who can have  a conversation with Rachel Madow (who invites her on her own show from time to time) dresses well, and showers daily.  Nope, no room for someone like that.  I hope she doesn't take it too hard - she's really too good for this show although I realize that's not saying much considering the standards are so low. 

 

LOL, year after year I think this show could NOT get any worse and then it does. 

Edited July 16, 2015 by Cosmocrush

[TheGreenKnight]

What little I saw of Nicolle before Rosie O left was pretty annoying, and she only got worse since then, so I’ve read. At least she’ll no longer have free-reign to spout skewed "facts" unchecked or talk over everyone else when they’re talking, or be incredibly fake, rude, and self-centered with guests. She had no interviewing skills and couldn’t approach even the simplest topic without putting on her “I’m a Republican” hat. Moreover, I didn't see her as any better than Rosie Perez, so I'm glad for Perez's sake that she wasn't the only one fired. I guess kissing Whoopi's behind didn't help Nicolle in the end. Too bad.

[Kromm]

^^^^That makes it sound like the Cosby's have an "open marriage".  I wonder if she was aware of the somnophilia though.

It sound more like an open marriage that goes in one direction.  Bill does what he wants, Camille looks the other way and plays the virtuous wife.

[Jaded]

I know a lot of you are listing a lot of the things you'll be glad not to hear Nicole spouting anymore. I'm imaging how things will be 100 times worse with Candace and her talking points as was displayed the other day during the wedding cake for the gay couple argument she had with Raven. If that argument hadn't happened I bet she wouldn't have been as highly considered to be a co-host for this upcoming season.

[RogerFromOhio]

It sound more like an open marriage that goes in one direction.  Bill does what he wants, Camille looks the other way and plays the virtuous wife.

It didnt sound like it..... didnt she say something like..... he does what he wants and I do what I want..... I would not doubt if she got hers as well..... not sure if she needs drugs though

[Morbs]

I really don't want to see someone against gay marriage given this platform.  I guess since last night I watched Escaping from ISIS, but I am so very tired of people hiding behind religion to spout their bigotry.  I just ignored the clip of Candace and Raven when I saw it on my Twitter feed.  I get it's called The View after all, but I think bigotry needs to be shunned and we should make people embarrassed for saying such things.  I hope Candace isn't around.

 

I don't even understand why Nicolle considers herself a Republican.  Like, does she still believe in trickle down economics even though no one else does?  Does she think the financial crisis didn't happen and there shouldn't be regulations?  She never really bothered me but I do remember when she called a stranger on the street a cow and wondered if that was a sign she was a terrible human being.

[TheGreenKnight]

Jaded: I don't like Candace by any means, and she definitely isn't as intelligent as Nicolle. The difference for me is that at least the panel won't turn to Candace as if she were giving "facts" the way they did with Nicolle--as if Nicolle ever gave a fact that wasn't filtered through her own mindset, usually leaving out important details, and yet they treated everything she said as Word of God. Candace will just be another person screaming her mouth off, like Hasselbeck, not treated as any more unbiased than anyone else at the table. At least that way everyone else might actually respond to what's being said.

[TribbleTrouble]

Au revoir Nicolle. http://deadline.com/2015/07/nicolle-wallace-leaving-the-view-co-host-1201476527/

It's official: Whoopi and cockroaches will be the only things to survive the apocalypse that is this show.

I came here to post a link to the original Variety story but this snarkalicious one is MUCH better.

[dr. gailey]

They are making it easy to give up this show.

 

I just can't sit through a show with Candace on it. After that fight with Raven the other day I was like fuck this shit.

 

Molly Sims doesn't do anything for me and I flinched whenever Nicolle and Cristela laughed.

 

I don't know what Whoopi has on folks to keep this job but she apparently needs to share that with the other hosts.

[Former Nun]

as if Nicolle ever gave a fact that wasn't filtered through her own mindset, usually leaving out important details, and yet they treated everything she said as Word of God.

 

 

For me, TheGreenKnight, this is a very important comment.  Nicolle was allowed to say any political thing (right or wrong) she wanted--and if she was challenged, she continued to talk and talk and talk over the opposition and get the last word--leading most viewers to believe she had the right stuff!  Rosie Perez tried to counteract her, but Nicolle is a professional spinner.  She's good at what she does.  It would have been fun to see Rosie O'Donnell challenge her.  Also, it would have been fun to have Rosie O'Donnell in on the discussion with Whoopi and Dan Abrams.  

[merriebreeze]

Could there be a connection between Nicolle dissing The Donald and her being let go? Just saying. 

[Vinyasa]

Wow, this season was a complete bust!

 

All started with that little table and went down hill from there (even when the big table came back!)

[MatchaLove]

Could there be a connection between Nicolle dissing The Donald and her being let go? Just saying. 

I don't think Shrek (that's what I call him) had anything to do with it.  They're keeping Whoopi Goldberg on the air and she is chronic defender of the worst of the worst:  predators, rapists, wife beaters, racists, pedophiles.

 

In fact Whoopi, over the years, has been very critical and bitchy toward Trump, so….

[NextIteration]

I think Rosie countered Nicolle pretty well when Whoopi didn't intervene just to be a contrarian.  They had a very nice agree to disagree vibe.

 

I think this is stupid going into an election year.  Maybe they'll look at Campos again, she's fucking shrill enough.

[backformore]

Could there be a connection between Nicolle dissing The Donald and her being let go? Just saying. 

that could be part of it - but in a different way.  maybe the producers wanted a fight.  Trump has been a controversial figure on The View in the past (Rosie O), and maybe the producers wanted some shit-stirring to happen, and were frustrated when the entire panel agreed that Trump is an embarrassment. 

[Kenz]

I've never liked Nicolle on the View. I find her disingenuous and phony. She never picked up any interviewing skills, because she usually inserted herself into the interview and interrupted continuously. I'll be happy to not hear that she is a Republican and the mother of a three year old, and she doesn't know anything about Malibu or Hollywood stars, or Twitter, etc. If Rosie O had stayed on the show there would have been some good push back on Nicolle's political opinions, and that could have made for some interesting conversations, but Rosie P couldn't really counter her well.  She can be in her wheelhouse on her appearances on Morning Joe. She wouldn't bother me so much on that show because she can just be her Republican self and drop the phony act, and she'll get some pushback on her political comments. (Lucky for me, I don't get up early enough for Morning Joe here in Oregon.)

[Former Nun]

They're keeping Whoopi Goldberg on the air and she is chronic defender of the worst of the worst:  predators, rapists, wife beaters, racists, pedophiles.

 

 

And may I add, Matchalove, dog killers (Michael Vick)...even though "that's part of our culture."  Whoopi also lies, exaggerates, and rewrites history (especially her own) and just dances in and collects that big paycheck.   Speaking of dancing...she was really "with it" yesterday when she sang and danced out to music of the Crystals (Da Doo Ron Ron).  Remember when she used to just amble out in a daze?  Either she has been ordered to perk up or she's just happy that her (rub our hands together) plans are working out.

[NextIteration]

And into a Friday we go, Whoopi's idiocy flies under the radar safely into next week.  The redemption edit was for the Apatow appearance but it also came in just in time for the Obama comments.  I noticed they did not speak on that during tepid topics, even though it's been covered everywhere.

[Cosmocrush]

as if Nicolle ever gave a fact that wasn't filtered through her own mindset, usually leaving out important details, and yet they treated everything she said as Word of God.

 

For me, TheGreenKnight, this is a very important comment.  Nicolle was allowed to say any political thing (right or wrong) she wanted--and if she was challenged, she continued to talk and talk and talk over the opposition and get the last word--leading most viewers to believe she had the right stuff!  Rosie Perez tried to counteract her, but Nicolle is a professional spinner.  She's good at what she does.  It would have been fun to see Rosie O'Donnell challenge her.  Also, it would have been fun to have Rosie O'Donnell in on the discussion with Whoopi and Dan Abrams.  

FormerNun, she is a professional political spinner and her non-combative style makes her a good one too in my opinion. It's a style that's served her very well along with her pretty hair, lol.    But I disagree that  "most viewers" take anything said at the table of morons as factual or even the Word of God.   If she wasn't challenged at the table I think it's because the other co-hosts either a) didn't know enough to counter (and couldn't be bothered to find out) or b) didn't really care.

 

that could be part of it - but in a different way.  maybe the producers wanted a fight.  Trump has been a controversial figure on The View in the past (Rosie O), and maybe the producers wanted some shit-stirring to happen, and were frustrated when the entire panel agreed that Trump is an embarrassment. 

Exactly.  They love the fights.  In my opinion that's really why Nicole's contract wasn't renewed. 

 

 

I think this is stupid going into an election year.  Maybe they'll look at Campos again, she's fucking shrill enoug

It is stupid. But it's a stupid show so....

Edited July 16, 2015 by Cosmocrush

[NextIteration]

her non-combative style makes her a good one too in my opinion. It's a style that's served her very well 

 

From what I've read, it's what got her hired into the Bush administration.  And tip top on the McCain campaign.

 

If you could go back in time and watch her presentation as a McCain surrogate against Fiorina, you could see it.

 

She was pleasant, Fiorina was so nasty that she got booted as well as Pfotenhauer.

[MatchaLove]

And may I add, Matchalove, dog killers (Michael Vick)...even though "that's part of our culture."  Whoopi also lies, exaggerates, and rewrites history (especially her own) and just dances in and collects that big paycheck.   Speaking of dancing...she was really "with it" yesterday when she sang and danced out to music of the Crystals (Da Doo Ron Ron).  Remember when she used to just amble out in a daze?  Either she has been ordered to perk up or she's just happy that her (rub our hands together) plans are working out.

Yes, 100% xo

[NextIteration]

Which reminds me, some people are very critical of her about not voting in 2008.  I'm not sure what they'd have her do?  She saw that Palin was a joke and she saw the nativism that Palin invoked in her speeches, I wouldn't have expected her to cross a line and vote for Obama, she thought enough about her vote that she couldn't vote for the ticket that she was responsible for, because she thought the choice of Palin as VP was dangerous.

 

I'm not defending her, but I'm not sure that is something to condemn her for.

[Maire]

They are making it easy to give up this show.

 

        So true. What a shame for a show that was once a fave.

        Poor Nicolle. All that sucking up for nothing! I think she is smart but she acted so dopey and one-note so

        I'm not sorry to see her gone.

Edited July 16, 2015 by Maire

[Rosieroo]

 

But I disagree that  "most viewers" take anything said at the table of morons as factual or even the Word of God.

Unfortunately, I think some do though.  I live smack in the middle of Republican-Bible Belt-STILL love Sarah Palin Country and not long ago, at a family function, the subject of The View came up and  my otherwise smart and lovely aunt said that she always felt sorry for that poor Elisabeth because those liberal women bullied her and she was only trying to tell the truth.  I didn't even engage.  Not worth my energy. 

[Cosmocrush]

        So true. What a shame for a show that was once a fave.

        Poor Nicolle. All that sucking up for nothing! I think she is smart but she acted so dopey and one-note so

        I'm not sorry to see her gone.

I never thought of it that way.  Hahaha!  There's a lesson in there somewhere Nicolle. 

 

But I disagree that  "most viewers" take anything said at the table of morons as factual or even the Word of God.

 

 

Unfortunately, I think some do though.  I live smack in the middle of Republican-Bible Belt-STILL love Sarah Palin Country and not long ago, at a family function, the subject of The View came up and  my otherwise smart and lovely aunt said that she always felt sorry for that poor Elisabeth because those liberal women bullied her and she was only trying to tell the truth.  I didn't even engage.  Not worth my energy. 

Oh dear - hopefully an outlier.   But with 10,000 sources of information available everyday,  I stand by my hopeful opinion that "most viewers" don't take any information from this show as accurate. 

Edited July 16, 2015 by Cosmocrush

[Syd]

I'm taking this shitfest off my DVR today. Nicole was the only reasonable one on the panel. It's been painful to watch for weeks now. I'm just done.

[RogerFromOhio]

Which reminds me, some people are very critical of her about not voting in 2008.  I'm not sure what they'd have her do?  She saw that Palin was a joke and she saw the nativism that Palin invoked in her speeches, I wouldn't have expected her to cross a line and vote for Obama, she thought enough about her vote that she couldn't vote for the ticket that she was responsible for, because she thought the choice of Palin as VP was dangerous.

 

I'm not defending her, but I'm not sure that is something to condemn her for.

It is possible to go vote and leaving a particular race blank...... Did she vote in the primary?? No one would know how she voted..... but I dont know of any honest political wonk who doesnt vote

[3pwood]

It is possible to go vote and leaving a particular race blank...... Did she vote in the primary?? No one would know how she voted..... but I dont know of any honest political wonk who doesnt vote

 

Not sure which state's primary Wallace would have been eligible to vote in, but I don't think that Palin was yet in the picture during any of them.  McCain didn't choose her as his running mate until late Aug., just before the 2008 GOP convention started in early Sept.  If the reason Wallace didn't vote in the Presidential election was her concern about Palin as VP, that probably wasn't a factor during the primaries -- so it seems likely that Wallace would have voted in the primary for her state of residence.

[ginger90]

The "rotating" guest co-hosts has been something that has not worked (for me) every time they have done it. TPTB should really try and focus on consistency with the co-hosts. The way they are normally treated, I don't know why anyone does it. And Sherri had so many chances while on the show to re-invent herself that it will NEVER happen. She'll come out "dancing", and the rest will be to try out stand up material. Blech.

 

It doesn't bother me that Nicolle is done, but it does prove those in charge are getting paid to think, and aren't.

[maggiemae]

I think I said this before but now we are left with Whoopi, Raven and Michelle and 63 guest co-hosts.

I simply can't believe Sherri is coming back after her absolutely sordid non-custody battle. Since she hasn't been promoting that she actually is it perhaps the contracts have not been signed as a guest-host.

In fact I can't seem to like any of the guest co-hosts and never have...especially when they are ignored and, indeed, often not even acknowledged being there or worse introduced.

[Jeanius]

So weird. I didn't care for Nicolle, but it bothers me that SHE was let go when the others stay (okay, a bunch of them were let go as well, BUT NOT WHOOPI - SHE DESERVES IT THE MOST!!!!!!)

 

And just to twist the knife some more - bringing back SHERRI????????

 

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONO ... a million, billion times NO.

 

THAT is what galls. SHIT-CAN WHOOPI, then we'll talk about who goes next.

[Fisher King]

Au revoir Nicolle.  http://deadline.com/2015/07/nicolle-wallace-leaving-the-view-co-host-1201476527/

 

It's official: Whoopi and cockroaches will be the only things to survive the apocalypse that is this show. 

 

Wow. No wonder Nicolle seemed like she was about to rip somebody a new hole today - that was before she launched into the pathetic crammed-up-on faux knowledge of the Kardashians.

Too  bad she didn't unleash where it's deserved - The Spew producers.

 

I'm actually embarrassed for Nicolle. She worked her ass off to fit in at this shitfest this year. Yeah, I'm aware of her quirks, her feigning ignorance of technology and celebrity crap, but c'mon. She did everything the show asked of her. She endured those godawful in-show infomercials with Mario. She kissed so much Whoopi ass that it should be illegal, and sure, she repeated and vehemently defended the republican talking points, but wasn't that a step up compared to the insufferable Bitsy? Nicolle at least KNOWS how to talk her own bullshit. She doesn't have to take notes and try to sell it. Yes, she worked harder than anyone to earn her place on the panel. She shouldn't be dissed, shamed and fired for doing her job. Shoot, she can annoy me but who on this how doesn't at some point?

 

Off my soapbox now.

 

This from MTLChick's link was quite spot-on:

 

The show followed up on that bit of punditry this week, when ABC News’ chief legal analyst Dan Abrams sat down with Whoopi for a little one-on-one time, in which he explained to her how “statute of limitations” works in decades-old rape accusations, to which Whoopi marveled, on this ABC News program, that this was the first she was hearing of this, while Abrams gave an Emmy-worthy performance resisting the urge to clomp her on the head with a blunt object. Too bad, because that would have been The View’s buzziest, most social-media-friendly moment yet.

[Medicine Crow]

Unfortunately, I think some do though.  I live smack in the middle of Republican-Bible Belt-STILL love Sarah Palin Country and not long ago, at a family function, the subject of The View came up and  my otherwise smart and lovely aunt said that she always felt sorry for that poor Elisabeth because those liberal women bullied her and she was only trying to tell the truth.  I didn't even engage.  Not worth my energy. 

I can go you one better.  I live right in the middle of Calgary, Alberta, Canada, & one of my close friends thinks Sarah Palin "got railroaded".  (I can't even ... )  In our last Provincial election, I made the grave error of saying which way I'd voted -- the same as half of Alberta, but everything negative about "my party" gets emailed to me, sometimes three or four times a day.  Needless to say, she's a rabid conservative & I was too, until this election.  LOL.

[Fisher King]

Thank god you saw the light, Medicine Crow! ;)

[shok]

Which reminds me, some people are very critical of her about not voting in 2008.  I'm not sure what they'd have her do?  She saw that Palin was a joke and she saw the nativism that Palin invoked in her speeches, I wouldn't have expected her to cross a line and vote for Obama, she thought enough about her vote that she couldn't vote for the ticket that she was responsible for, because she thought the choice of Palin as VP was dangerous.

 

I'm not defending her, but I'm not sure that is something to condemn her for.

 

What should Nicolle have done in 2008? She should have withdrawn herself from the McCain/Palin campaign and quit working to get them elected!!!! If she had had any integrity at all, she would have refrained from trying to dupe the American public once she realized Palin as VP was dangerous. Instead she lied and continued promoting that woman as a viable candidate to the very end. When it became beneficial for Nicolle personally, then she suddenly saw the light and went public with her reservations and made herself a fine career as a Palin basher, hypocritical two-faced unethical woman that she is. She shouldn't be lauded for not voting for her, she should be pilloried for working her skinny little buns off to get others to vote.

[NextIteration]

She shouldn't be lauded for not voting for her, she should be pilloried for working her skinny little buns off to get others to vote.

 

I'm certainly not lauding her, at all.  But I think it was clear to the majority of US citizens that with Palin on that ticket, there was only one choice.  Anybody that caught even one of those xenophobic appearances of hers knew what was the right vote.  

[Jeanius]

I really hate conservative bashing AND liberal bashing. I think of the words in their purer forms. Some things are worth conserving. Some things one tries to be liberal about, and progress. Life is not one or the other. We progress, we fall back to conserve, etc.  I understand bashing the "White, Old Man GOP Culture." Not all Republicans are the same. MY old white mother may have voted for McCain, but she did NOT think Palin was good, but she weighed the other side, and found it lacking. HER CHOICE. I often feel like saying "none of the above" but we have to choose. I may lean right due to economics, because I want to conserve resources, money, whatever. It doesn't mean I want to deny people healthcare or basic human needs. I am quite liberal on social issues, so my heart and mind resonate with this group. I feel sad when the Right is painted with a broad brush. I get totally fed up with my Liberal in every way relatives who think all Republicans are evil, and all Democrats are pure as the driven snow. Bullshit!!! Both sides - the political shit - stink to high heaven. Don't let them separate THE PEOPLE. We are being played against each other. Don't fall for it!!!

 

And THIS SHOW doesn't help. Please, Powers That Be, PULL THE PLUG. LET IT GO. LET IT DIEEEEEEEEEEE

 

AND NO SHERRI (unless she wants to REALLY spill the beans, spill the tea, and tell us ALL ABOUT Sleezy Sal, Lil Sal Junior, Sal's new Gal Pal, or Sal's new Pal Pal. IF Sherri wiped that fake cheesy grin off her face, and got DOWN with righteous anger, I would pop the corn and pour the pinot grigio. IF Whoopi were GONE)

Edited July 17, 2015 by CuriousParker

[merriebreeze]

ginger linked to a spot-on Huffpo piece about Whoopi over at the Whoopi thread. It should be on Huffpo's front page. Don't miss it. 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-whoopi-goldberg-effect_55a69c43e4b04740a3dead4a?utm_hp_ref=entertainment&ir=Entertainment&section=entertainment

Edited July 17, 2015 by merriebreeze

[Rosieroo]

 

Which reminds me, some people are very critical of her about not voting in 2008.

I'm one of them..sort of.  What I object to is the cutsie story about how she didn't vote for McCain/Palin while all the time she was working overtime to get US to vote for them.  She worked hard to hide Palin's ignorance from us and the fact that she was unsuccessful and stymied at every turn by Palin's shining incompetence then gives a big "whew" isn't cute to me.   Well I tried to fool ya'll but that crazy woman just wouldn't cooperate...tee hee....that bitch is craaaazieeeee amirite?  

 

(audience obediently claps) 

Edited July 17, 2015 by Rosieroo

[NextIteration]

Well I tried to fool ya'll but that crazy woman just wouldn't cooperate...tee hee....that bitch is craaaazieeeee amirite?  

 

(audience obediently claps) 

 

I do get it, but that's the job of slimy political operatives.

[Rosieroo]

True.  I used to be a political junkie.  I followed as much of it as I could get but I have completely burned out and just can't stomach it anymore.  I used to be so idealistic but they beat it out of me.  (read that last in Eeyore voice to get full effect) 

 

   

[NextIteration]

Well and while Bure doesn't seem shrill - her belief system allows for no compromise and she's a bigot.  It does get a lot worse than Wallace.

[susieq147]

True.  I used to be a political junkie.  I followed as much of it as I could get but I have completely burned out and just can't stomach it anymore.  I used to be so idealistic but they beat it out of me.  (read that last in Eeyore voice to get full effect)

 

 

I despised Elisabeth Hasselbeck because she would just spew GOP rhetoric every.single.day.  But she was such an idiot there was plenty of snark to work with which gave me plenty to make jokes about.  But someone like Nicolle Wallace is as someone said previously, stealthier.  And as far as Candace Bure goes, she strikes me as someone who is just as rigid and strident as Elisabeth but minus the nonsensical word salads. 

 

I think what the GOP tries to do is beat the idealism out of people who disagree with them.  As a proud liberal I simply refuse to let them break me.  They can keep offering up the Hasselbecks, and the Wallaces and the Coulters and whoever they want to ostensibly speak for women but they have and will never speak for me.

 

And speaking of Coulter, I think that was why Nicolle was let go.  She isn't polarizing enough for ABC.  Which makes me ask, is ABC trying to alienate viewers more than they already have? 

Edited July 17, 2015 by susieq147