S13.E14: Blow Up

[MajorNelson]

Only halfway through watching this thing, but

WHAT A TRAINWRECK OF A SHOW!

Edited October 23, 2018 by MajorNelson

[endure]

1 hour ago, Hockey Addict said:

Shannon has not had to learn what other women have had to. Like how to do without things for the good of her kids and wallet. Or how about having to choose between paying a credit card bill or paying for a doctors visit? Or having to be in the middle of a grocery story line and take items out because you don't have that much money and have to pick out things? Just examples. 

Why single out Shannon when none of these women are living in that situation either?

[lunastartron]

I’m mystified that Shannon has managed to retain distinction among certain viewers as classy and/or intelligent, erudite, polished, etc. This is a woman who has been stumbling out of social gatherings cum work events in varying degrees of drunken hysterics for five years running. She asked her husband to fish out an enema tube from her anus on national television and unabashedly recounted sopping her gullet with alcohol to the point of discovering herself blocks away from the restaurant at which she was drinking with her husband before subsequently attempting to beat down a door in order to physically attack her husband. She has characterized a costar’s accent as “creepy.”

More specific to the criticisms leveled at her during this episode, she has been vocally hapless since she began appearing on the show. She showed up to veritable stranger Heather’s house to grouse about the “hardest night of her life” in season nine. The next year, David took her out to a venue too plebeian for her tastes on their anniversary with their kids in tow; she exuded enough discontent that her children literally began pleading with her to “be happy.” She sneered at the necklace he gifted her. Fast forward another two seasons and she was once again stumbling out of parties while simultaneously ascribing her aggression to the personal difficulties she was enduring yet failing to extend any such considerations to how the pain of others (burying a parent and undergoing a double mastectomy right before filming, let’s say) could yield erratic behavior. 

She herself has stated repeatedly that she’s gained weight because she’s medicating herself with food and, to a lesser degree, liquor. 

She is both demonstrably sick and profoundly ugly. 

Edited October 23, 2018 by lunastartron

[DebbieM4]

2 hours ago, Talktolaura said:

 I totally agree. This is FAR from a Tamara OR Vicki issue! From her first season on the show, Shannon has been overly anxious, controlling and self-absorbed!!! Between making her house free from "toxins" to obsession with herbs and potions, to her being hypersensitive toward her husband and daughters. She is a rather neurotic/narcissistic mess! I love her holier than thow opinion around psychopharmacology BUT she will drink to change her mood. Her type of personality doesn't do well in therapy but she should at least give it a try. But since NOTHING appears to be her fault EVER! - it is doubtful she would even go to therapy (and I say this as a therapist of over 20 years).  As far as the new woman go....I like them. That Gina is a very young woman....I think she is doing very well under the circumstances and I like Emily. 

I completely agree with all of this.  Shannon is rude and self-centered on a continual basis.  She's so intent on being the victim that she can't acknowledge that other people have problems too.  Everything is a disaster to her, and I find her exhausting.  She would be way too high-maintenance for me as a friend.  Sure, friends support each other and listen for hours on end when one is going thru a rough time.  But Shannon seems to always be going through a rough time.  She doesn't think that anyone else's problems compare to hers because she doesn't want them to.  For some reason she wants to be the one who has more of a right to complain than anyone else, and she's determined not to give up on that.   I've thought for the last couple of seasons that she really needs to take time off from this show and get her life together.  This is doing her (and her girls) no favors.  She is badly in need of some coping skills and a whole lot of self-awareness.   The constant wallowing in misery is not at all healthy.

I have no real problem with Gina, and I'm liking Emily more and more as time goes by.  (They're new co-workers of Shannon's, and the women are supposed to interact, so I understand their frustration when she shows little interest in them and basically refuses to engage.)

12 minutes ago, endure said:

Why single out Shannon when none of these women are living in that situation either?

Because Shannon is the only one who endlessly - since her first season - complains about how difficult her life is.

[bichonblitz]

2 hours ago, Gem 10 said:

Shannon doesn’t believe in drugs.  She is “natural” everything.  She will go to Dr.Money .. er, I mean Dr.Moon.

She believes in Vodka. Hypocrite. 

[straightshooter]

Tamra is just vile.  What a total snake she is, not that this is anything new...

I am guessing Shannon will be done with the show after seeing this episode (and WWHL) this evening.  She should be, it’ll be SO much healthier for her and for her girls.  

Go away, Gina.   This group already has a major league shit-stirrer.  No need for a second.   

[bichonblitz]

Shannon deserved the pile on. Sitting at the table smirking and making comments under her breath, acting like she's above it all because the conversation didn't suit her and wasn't about her.  

Ohhhhhh you just don't know what I go through every day! Really Shannon, I think Tamra and Kelly do. Especially since you frequently call them crying (and no doubt drunk) at 2am to remind them. 

[MajorNelson]

"I feel completely responsible for unleashing this BEAST that I did not realize had to be tied up so tightly."

  -Gina

omg, lol, she was bringing it tonight.
 

[Jextella]

I'm seeing things differently than many. 

For the first time in a long time I liked Tamra.  I think Eddie's health problems have put things in better perspective for her.  She's still a shit-stirrer but more tame about it.  Vicki has been highly entertaining.  Kelly has been easier to watch this season too (except when she laid into Emily's husband)

I like both of the new wives and think they are a breath of fresh air - not only for the OC but in general.   Not heavy on the drama, etc.  

Shannon is a mess.  She is everything the others say about her.   She really can't see things objectively.  She only sees them through her own lense.   This could be because she is depressed or it could be she's just that way.  I think it's a little of both, but she needs some self-awareness therapy sessions either way.  David is doing a redemption tour right about now.

[MajorNelson]

Lines from Shannon

-I'm a kind friend

-I know that I'm a good person.  I know I'm a good friend.

And yet she is practically cracking up?  This is what cognitive dissonance looks and sounds like.

Edited October 23, 2018 by MajorNelson

[pythonite]

Tamra steals hangers, brazenly on camera.. 

[MajorNelson]

2 hours ago, Reality police said:

I would have been DONE with Tammy Sue at the dinner table when she said nothing about the friendship with Shannon. That silence and trying to look innocent. I would have been in a cab to the hotel, moved to a private villa, and dared TS to come near me. Couldn't believe she didn't immediately rip in to Tammy Sue.

That was a very pregnant pause and Tamra's stumbling to come up with anything showed Shannon that Shannon's opinion about herself was wrong, and that really put her on 'tilt.'

3 hours ago, Gem 10 said:

Shannon doesn’t believe in drugs.  She is “natural” everything.  She will go to Dr.Money .. er, I mean Dr.Moon.

Well hopefully we will get to see her as a literal pincushion then!  And also we can all be surprised when she announces she's all fixed, and then of course have the same meltdowns and runaways.

 

(darn merged comments)

Edited October 23, 2018 by MajorNelson

[MajorNelson]

39 minutes ago, Jextella said:

Shannon is a mess.  She is everything the others say about her.   She really can't see things objectively.  She only sees them through her own lense.   This could be because she is depressed or it could be she's just that way.  I think it's a little of both, but she needs some self-awareness therapy sessions either way.  

I see it like this too.

Edited October 23, 2018 by MajorNelson

[yourmomiseasy]

Gina/Emily -- whichever is from Laaawng Eyelen, is a bitch and can miss me with her "I feel completely responsible for releasing this beast" bullshit.  She did it on purpose.  The smirking and smug looks on her face during dinner and the following scenes made me sick.  Then the shrieking, pile up, faux concern, and gas lighting from all of them was despicable.  Shannon is a downer and a fucking mess, and would be tiring to deal with, but she didn't deserve that.  I mean she's even got Cancer Scammin' Vicki wailing at her that she's a bad friend because she didn't support her turn as a con woman.  I think maybe Kelly was the most measured and least disgusting and that just makes my head spin -- at least she seemed to not be coming from a place of malice.  Tamara was obviously the worst.  Her gas lighting game is next level.

Vicki's outfits were a crime against humanity.  She is for reals a terrorist.

[Beachdreamer]

No one is a good friend to anyone on this show, and anyone willing to accept the Bravo paycheck needs to understand going in- This isn't the Golden Girls, It's the Hunger Games.

Shannon may very well need help with depression and alcohol consumption, but anyone who is a real friend, or even a slightly caring human, would have that discussion with her in a calm sober setting off camera.  It also bears pointing out that she could risk custody of her children by being shown too often on camera as being volatile or having a drinking issue, and I think Tamra knows this, which makes Tamra's handling of the situation so much more vile.

[lamujerdecente]

I don't fault Eddie harshly about that text because it was Tamra that chose to read that shit. And I think if it was anyone but these hose beasts and the bloated sow saying these things about Shannon, they would have a point. Shannon was throwing a tantrum like a child. And I get she is going  through a divorce to a Dick, but a lot of that is ego. Try divorcing abusive assholes in the same situation living on the poverty line and not getting the attention of this show. She chose this show, this life. Its tired and old and I like Shannon. 

Tamra is such a bitch, phony, gaslighting forever teenage mean girl. 

Vicky looks horrible. She has never been a beauty but these plastic surgeries, her refusal to accept dressing like a love and hip extra starlet isn't her, is making her look extra hideous. Being that  she is a racist, cancer scamming scum I am here for it. 

 

And her mocking Shannon for her weight with that dig? Shows her ass is clueless and delusional.

And clearly has no friends nor anyone who cares about her. 

 

I think all these chicks look various levels of tacky this episode. With the exception of Emily and to a lesser extent Kelly. 

Tamra has a great body but her face is hard. 

And Vicky is no twerker. Never do that shit again lady. You keep adding things to the going to hell list.

Edited October 23, 2018 by lamujerdecente

[Choco9]

5 hours ago, lunastartron said:

I’m mystified that Shannon has managed to retain distinction among certain viewers as classy and/or intelligent, erudite, polished, etc. This is a woman who has been stumbling out of social gatherings cum work events in varying degrees of drunken hysterics for five years running. She asked her husband to fish out an enema tube from her anus on national television and unabashedly recounted sopping her gullet with alcohol to the point of discovering herself blocks away from the restaurant at which she was drinking with her husband before subsequently attempting to beat down a door in order to physically attack her husband. She has characterized a costar’s accent as “creepy.”

More specific to the criticisms leveled at her during this episode, she has been vocally hapless since she began appearing on the show. She showed up to veritable stranger Heather’s house to grouse about the “hardest night of her life” in season nine. The next year, David took her out to a venue too plebeian for her tastes on their anniversary with their kids in tow; she exuded enough discontent that her children literally began pleading with her to “be happy.” She sneered at the necklace he gifted her. Fast forward another two seasons and she was once again stumbling out of parties while simultaneously ascribing her aggression to the personal difficulties she was enduring yet failing to extend any such considerations to how the pain of others (burying a parent and undergoing a double mastectomy right before filming, let’s say) could yield erratic behavior. 

She herself has stated repeatedly that she’s gained weight because she’s medicating herself with food and, to a lesser degree, liquor. 

She is both demonstrably sick and profoundly ugly. 

If I could like this a thousand times I would.  I cannot believe the Shannon love here! 

Look, I don't really like anyone on this cast (Emily is ok, Kelly has her moments) and I think Tamra and Vickie are generally just bad people, but Shannon is insane.  Her flagrant displays on this show detailing her divorce court squabbles, and previously the affair, for her daughters to see on TV is just nuts.  They are going to need some major therapy.  

 

She was acting like an entitled idiot and she is never nice to anyone new.  She constantly referred to Emily and Gina as "these girls... don't listen to these girls" and I'm like, "They have names you witch!"  She is horrible and I am so glad she was finally called out.

[Wicked]

My biggest take away from this episode is that Vicki STILL will not take responsibility for her part in cancer gate.  She is vile.  How this has been brushed under the rug I just don't understand.

[ButterQueen]

10 hours ago, LilaFowler said:

Wow. Shannon is not going to be happy after she sees this episode. At least Vicki is trying to be sympathetic and not catty. Tamra is gleefully gossiping about Shannon's problems right now. She's such a lousy friend.

It seems like Tamra has gotten together with Gina and Emily to take Shannon down.   It’s not going to work....I hate them all.  

Tamra is a snake.

[walnutqueen]

6 minutes ago, Wicked said:

My biggest take away from this episode is that Vicki STILL will not take responsibility for her part in cancer gate.  She is vile.  How this has been brushed under the rug I just don't understand.

It certainly hasn't been brushed under any of my rugs.  I will neither forgive nor forget what she is.

Shannon seems to have found the turned worm at the bottom of the mescal bottle.

[ButterQueen]

8 hours ago, endure said:

These women are beyond  cruel, they ganged up on a supposed friend on a vacation.  They continually talked about her behind her back every opportunity they had, they screamed at her accusing her of screaming and being out of control.  The worst of them was Tamra who is supposedly a very close friend.....but all of them were part of the gang.  I hope Shannon quits the show over this once she sees this episode, she's a lot smarter than all of these women, it's no wonder she has a hard time relating to them.

I have a feeling that Gina and Emily just lost their oranges, and Shannon will freeze Tamra out.  

They have been gunning for Shannon all season, and she is hurt and embarrassed.

If I were Shannon, I would get the hell on a plane and go home.  

These ladies admit that Shannon is struggling, so hey, let’s gang up on her on television and tell her she needs pills.  What bitches.

Tamra is just the worst.

[lamujerdecente]

23 minutes ago, Wicked said:

My biggest take away from this episode is that Vicki STILL will not take responsibility for her part in cancer gate.  She is vile.  How this has been brushed under the rug I just don't understand.

By these dumb broads maybe and bravo execs but not here!

She is blaming Crooks as if she didn't help him lie and then try to make coins off it. Vile bloated sow AMD I enjoy immensely that her exterior matches her interior. And the bitch just keeps trucking on looking a vile clueless mess.Unfortunately the bloated sow is still making coins. 

17 minutes ago, ButterQueen said:

It seems like Tamra has gotten together with Gina and Emily to take Shannon down.   It’s not going to work....I hate them all.  

Tamra is a snake.

And stupid. Shannon gets no love from me. I like her as a character because she's reality TV gold. She has no filter and that's what's  makes her entertaining. Backing those boring two and the bloated sow are going to get her ass The unemployment line with her arch nemesis gretchen.  Neither of those three can carry a show. 

Edited October 23, 2018 by lamujerdecente

[ghoulina]

9 hours ago, Duke2801 said:

Agreed! But I knew Shannon would never go for it. She’s too far into that homeopathic essential oil woo.

Until it comes to having her eyelids lifted. 

 

8 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I have yet to see Fun Gina, Fun Tamra or Fun Emily

I guess constantly commenting on someone else's lack of having fun makes YOU fun by default??

[Mindthinkr]

8 hours ago, Gem 10 said:

Shannon doesn’t believe in drugs.  She is “natural” everything.  She will go to Dr.Money .. er, I mean Dr.Moon.

Shannon hsoud have tried the local “natural” drug available in Jamaica. Smoke some ganja Shannon and chill. Don’t want to toke Shannon because you are allergic to smoke, then eat some gummies or cookies. I do not think that she could handle mixing alcohol with the marijuana so I doubt she’d try it. She’d get DT’s judging by the copious amounts of alcohol she can put down and function (somewhat). 

I get why they’re drinking so much booze (even for breakfast), but the Blue Mountain coffee there is delicious. 

[Choco9]

11 minutes ago, ButterQueen said:

I have a feeling that Gina and Emily just lost their oranges, and Shannon will freeze Tamra out.  

They have been gunning for Shannon all season, and she is hurt and embarrassed.

If I were Shannon, I would get the hell on a plane and go home.  

These ladies admit that Shannon is struggling, so hey, let’s gang up on her on television and tell her she needs pills.  What bitches.

Tamra is just the worst.

But they are just enabling her if they put up with her BS behavior.  Shannon's comments at dinner under her breath, her scrolling on the phone if anyone is talking about their issues, her incessant need for attention and inability to cope with life at all is simply astounding.  And they are all STILL trying to be friends with her toxic self.  I think Shannon is getting off easy, a person can only take so much negativity and entitlement. Good lord.  

14 minutes ago, ButterQueen said:

I have a feeling that Gina and Emily just lost their oranges, and Shannon will freeze Tamra out.  

They have been gunning for Shannon all season, and she is hurt and embarrassed.

If I were Shannon, I would get the hell on a plane and go home.  

These ladies admit that Shannon is struggling, so hey, let’s gang up on her on television and tell her she needs pills.  What bitches.

 

I totally disagree that anyone has been gunning for Shannon.  She has been a downright bitch to Emily and Gina from the beginning, been needy, negative and an attention-whore, but everyone has handled her with kids gloves until now.  

[ButterQueen]

Emily and Gina, you are boring....and STOP bringing up Shannon.  You are NOT her friends.

I’m not sure those texts were from Eddie.  

[lamujerdecente]

I am unconformable with anyone's mental health being dissected by non professionals. Shannon was being a Dick and annoying AF but Tamra was leading that conversation into dangerous territory. She does this to everyone but don't u dare point out her kid wants nothing to do with her. 

Tamra to Me seems the type to cozy up to you go get the goods so she can lead a take down on  u later. She does this all the time.

2 minutes ago, ButterQueen said:

Emily and Gina, you are boring....and STOP bringing up Shannon.  You are NOT her friends.

I’m not sure those texts were from Eddie.  

Maybe. Eddie seems like he's just here for a check these days. Hes ill too so I don't blame him too harshly. Hes at the mercy of this bitch and her earning potential. And she earns money being vile on TV. 

He knew that early tho. 

[Wicked]

To clarify, I did mean that cancer gate was being swept under the rug on the show, not here!

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[Hero]

I can't stand Shannon. Her woe is me attitude is getting so fucking old. Everything needs to be done on Shannon's time and everything needs to be done to appease Shannon. 

She acts like a baby and can't stand to not be the center if attention. She's spoiled. Everyone tip toes around her for fear of upsetting her. She acts as though she is the only person in the world going through a tough time. Newsflash, everyone has something going on. The way she dismisses everyone else's challenges in life as not as important as hers is disgusting. She's a very selfish person. 

[janie2002]

Shannon is a tiresome person. Her fun is being drunk and woohooing. If people aren't doing that , they can be pampering her and fawning over her. Those are the 2 options. 

I can see why David hates her, she was a stay at home mom that never got up with the kids for bfast or to take them to school. Didn't pay any bills?  I'm damn sure she wasn't cleaning the house herself.  He probably has a lot of resentment. 

[lamujerdecente]

1 hour ago, Wicked said:

To clarify, I did mean that cancer gate was being swept under the rug on the show, not here!

 

I know! I just like rubbing it in because I hate the bloated sow. And I am petty AF. 

Edited October 23, 2018 by lamujerdecente

[VedaPierce]

12 hours ago, ivygirl said:

STOP SCREAMING FOR ONCE!!!! —Tamra, screeching 

?

I’m going to post something controversial. I’m actually going to defend Tamra a tiny bit. Tiny. Everyone here knows I detest Tamra with the burning strength of a thousand suns....buuuut....I really think shannon was having a bit of a psychotic break. Shannon was in the throws of pure fury at Tamra when she started ripping off her mike. They very rarely break that wall and allow camera guys to be seen. I’m not saying Tamra is an angel but I really think she had reached her limit with Shannon at that moment, and also isn’t great at dealing with anger directed at her, and reacts like a cornered badger. The scene was reminiscent of scary Island between Kelly and Bethenny right before Sonja, the cooler head, stepped in and calmed everyone down. Kelly’s and Shannon’s episodes were different but similar. I recognize something in Shannon’s behavior, unfortunately. I believe she has a disorder for which there is no cure sadly. She will succeed in driving every friend away eventually. Excessive alcohol is a symptom, as is anger at not being coddled and catered to. It’s a complicated thing, but I believe Shannon has BPD. That’s not to say she’s not likeable and charming when she wants to be. If she’s never been to a therapist, it’s probably not even been diagnosed and her poor family is suffering and don’t know what they’re dealing with or how to handle this. I can spot this pretty quickly as I’ve had many years of experience in dealing with it. 

Edited October 23, 2018 by VedaPierce

[Mu Shu]

9 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

Can we please stop calling whatever the hell Vicki was doing twerking? That was more like a lower body spasm.

I’m going to be mean.  She looked like shamu caught in a net.

that wasn’t twerking.  That wasn’t clothes.  Just a bloated, sweaty, ugly woman with all her junk hanging out.  Why yes, let’s go out in the woods and do the bobsled thing in lingerie, which was stretching and straining to the point where it was almost bursting.

vivki is an ugly woman.  She should keep as much of that ugliness under wraps as possible.

the earlier ensemble with her boobs hanging out was just as bad.  I saw more of her nasty ass tits than I think is legal on tv.

 Tamra and icki, no one wants to see your tits.  Put that shit away.  Have some respect for the people living where you travel.

pigs.

[Carolina Girl]

I haven't watched yet (I always check here to see if it's a "must watch" or "background noise while you're getting dressed for work" - looks like this episode is that latter.  I absolutely loathe Gina.  First of all, toots, it's NONE of your effing business what Shannon did or did not do when Eddie was ill.  And while we're at it, since Boobs McTamtrash is running all over the Western Hemisphere flashing her titties to everyone, she doesn't seem overly concerned about the medical state of her husband either.  

I think I'm out of this show for the rest of the season.  I don't like any of the cast at this point and I'd personally rather watch infomercials for Dr. Ho relieving back pain.  

[lamujerdecente]

2 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

I’m going to be mean.  She looked like shamu caught in a net.

that wasn’t twerking.  That wasn’t clothes.  Just a bloated, sweaty, ugly woman with all her junk hanging out.  Why yes, let’s go out in the woods and do the bobsled thing in lingerie, which was stretching and straining to the point where it was almost bursting.

vivki is an ugly woman.  She should keep as much of that ugliness under wraps as possible.

the earlier ensemble with her boobs hanging out was just as bad.  I saw more of her nasty ass tits than I think is legal on tv.

 Tamra and icki, no one wants to see your tits.  Put that shit away.  Have some respect for the people living where you travel.

pigs.

I forgot how ugly that dress at dinner was?. She looked like she was wearing her bata (Spanish word for old lady nightgown, I own several) wandered in hungover after being hit with the ugly stick for over an hour. 

Shannon was losing her shit. The mic thing was really uncomfortable.

[SuprSuprElevated]

Some folks have trouble expressing their feelings.  Shannon is unable to stop doing it.  She just a little too in touch with her inner everything.

[VedaPierce]

11 hours ago, chewycandy said:

You don’t flip a switch on depression.

Tamra can’t help the bully in her. She is really “helping” Shannon by yelling at her to keep crying.

I don’t think it’s depression only, if it even is depression. This hysteria has been going on for years. We are aware of Shannon and David’s domestic disturbances where the police were called, Shannon trying to break down a door,scuffling to the point of falling and being bruised up...her birthday dinner at the restaurant with her family was cringe-worthy. Lack of gratitude even on camera, even in front of her girls. The way she stormed off and ripped her mike off at that conflict with Lydia and her mother. The way she stormed off at her daughters’ band Showcase during her conflict with her mother-in-law. The crazy, screaming, plate-throwing fight with kelly at The Quiet Woman. This is what WE see...imagine what we don’t. Yes, the situations involved some sort of assholery or another...but the way Shannon escalates it...zero to sixty...is just not normal. I’m sure there’s some depression in the mix, probably due to regret at her previous epic meltdown, but that’s not Shannon’s main problem.

I thought Heather was vile when she first suggested that Shannon was having a mental break, but now I think she may have been right. Maybe Heather recognizes it right away due to her experiences with it....

[albarino]

9 minutes ago, Carolina Girl said:

I think I'm out of this show for the rest of the season.

Me too. I don't watch the NJ or ATL franchises because I don't like the women.  OC is rapidly approaching this list for me.

[VedaPierce]

11 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

Vicki calling Shannon...since when did Vicki develop a sympathy gene? 

Vickie was the happiest I’ve seen her in a long time right after Shannon’s meltdown! Lol ordering up drinks for everyone, TWERKING for goodness sakes! She FLOVED the way things played out the night before!! She got Tamra back, a main howife had a pretty crazy episode, she wasn’t the villain for a change, yup, win win win for Vickie. Drinks all around! Let’s celebrate!

She’s so transparent and pathetic. 

[SuprSuprElevated]

I watched maybe half of the first episode of the current season.  That's it.  Pretty sure I watched less than that of the previous.  I get enough from reading here, and some Instagram stuff like above, to fill my RHOC tank.  I don't expect that to change, unless the show gets a 100% re-cast.  Since Andy's head is parked halfway up Vicky's colon, I don't expect that to happen.

Edited October 23, 2018 by SuprSuprElevated

[Gem 10]

11 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

With screeching screaming friends like this, who needs enemies?  And I saw the self satisfied  smirk on Gina’s face as she watched them surround, attack and point fingers at Shannon. A job well done.  I dislike shit stirring Gina intensely , I hope she is gone soon.

Tamra is despicable, but at least I’m used to her. 

The others, Vicki and Kelly just go with the mood of the room.

Shannon is self absorbed but she didn’t deserve to be ganged up on like that.

Gina ugh ?go away!!

I agree with what you said about Gina, but after watching WWHL last night, I think she’s here to stay.  The callers like her and so does Andy, unfortunately.

[Kiki777]

2 minutes ago, VedaPierce said:

I thought Heather was vile when she first suggested that Shannon was having a mental break, but now I think she may have been right. Maybe Heather recognizes it right away due to her experiences with it....

This is why we need Heather back - evey RHW franchise needs a voice of reason, otherwise it becomes a screaming shit-show like his episode was.  Or bring back Megan King Edmonds PI!

Shannon really is becoming Bethenny!  When she rolled her eyes at dinner and mocked the conversation because it had nothing to do with her - Bethenny did the exact same thing on vacay last season on RHoNY.

Emily may be obnoxious asking for Fun Shannon to come back, but she has a point.  I don't like crying, screaming, woe-is-me Shannon, she gives me a headache and when I  know people like that in real life I avoid them when possible.  She is that person who will cry to you about her hangnail and not even notice the cast on your broken arm.

[VedaPierce]

11 hours ago, FlyingEgret said:

I'm shocked that the resort made the women move their own luggage to the new villa...

Omg! ESPECIALLY since it’s the resort’s fault for having broken AC at a tropical luxury resort to begin with!!

Edited October 23, 2018 by VedaPierce

[Mu Shu]

Shannon is an exhausting, self centered asshole.  She’s also real.  She’s honest.

tamra is a crap weasel who would sell her mother for a few shekels and some Botox.

icki is a sack of dog shit. 

Kelly is a rabid asshole too.  She has real life restraining orders and has said some questionable stuff IRL.

ill take the honest one.  All these hos were acting like beasts after their divorces.  And telling Shannon she doesn’t have the right to be a selfish jerk because she’s rich and should be grateful is feckless.  She is indeed entitled to her emotions.  They know she’s volatile, and push her buttons.

ill point out that neither Gina or Tamra were going through menopause during a hellish divorce. 

I’ll never quit Shannon.  Fuck these hypocrite rumpkin assholes. 

[Mr. Miner]

We need to go easy on Eddie, he is also going through a divorce from David. Speaking of David, I bet you couldn't punch the smile off of his skeevy face today.

[Gem 10]

It looks to me like Tamra and Vicky are trying very hard to secure that orange.  Tamra overacting, and Vicky dressing like a young sexy girl with her boobs out down to her navel.  Don’t even get me started on her “twerking” with her big fat old ass.  Steve should run away after last nights display.

Changing subject, that river ride in Jamaica looks nice.  Wonder if any reptiles are in that water?  The guide should carry a gun should anything climb aboard.  Ha.  I mean it.

[dosodog]

7 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

I agree with what you said about Gina, but after watching WWHL last night, I think she’s here to stay.  The callers like her and so does Andy, unfortunately.

She was quite smug.  And it didn't help that Mary McCormick fawned all over her.

The callers were in love with Gina too.  However, they all sounded slurry.  Like pills or alcohol slurry.  Andy pointed that out.

Well.  If we are stuck with her next season I guess we get to see Disney Divorcee next season.

[Pondlass1]

If I'd been Shannon I'd had gone to my room, locked the door and arranged for a flight home.  Maybe she has to be there because she is contracted or something?  But that was horrible to watch.  I expect arguments and yelling, but not gang warfare.  None of these women have the foggiest idea what it means to be a friend.

And there's Gina quite literally smirking through it all and patting herself on the back because she thinks she's solidified her orange for next season.  I hope one day they all surround and gang up on her so she can see what it feels like.

[Mu Shu]

Wait until the conscious uncoupling devolves into screaming about not getting boners on TV.

i hate the whole “someone has it worse than you, so quit bitching “ attitude.  This is who Shannon is.  Tamra’s not afraid of her at all.  Last episode, she was jealous that Shannon wasn’t hanging with her, and now she’s smothered by her? Pick a lane you lying ass heifer.

tamps is the very person who spent a season causing drama because someone she didn’t even socialize with had a sugar daddy and a boyfriend.  Bitch, you co opt drama, you’re so thirsty for it. And your own daughter hates your mean ass. 

Shannon, come hang with me.  We will have the airing of grievances and then work through having fun.  These bitches are evil. 

[Gem 10]

Tamballs was screaming more than usual .. I thought her extensions would fly off her head.  She better go back to her husband before he takes a hike.  BTW, who’s minding the gym?  Eddie must like loud trashy insensitive women.