Jesus God, Leah!!

[Scarlett45]

51 minutes ago, JocelynCavanaugh said:

Wow. I never thought of it that way but it makes sense. Thanks for this perspective! I wonder if, also on an unconscious level, Leah might prefer the prospect of being an aggrieved and fawned-over mother of a child who died young, rather than caring for an increasingly dependent adult child for decades. Not the most noble idea, but I guess understandable on some level. 

Yes I can see that. As the sister of a 30yrs old Tall Toddler, our society FAWNS over special needs CHILDREN. Once puberty hits and they are no longer young, cute and no amount of therapies or interventions can transform them into “typical tax payers” the attention stops- the services stop- the supports stop; at a time when parents need them the MOST. 

Ali may have a very fulfilled productive life ahead of her, but no one is going to give LEAH attention due to Ali’s disability in another 20yrs, or even 10yrs IMHO. 

[animalnurse]

23 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

Yes I can see that. As the sister of a 30yrs old Tall Toddler, our society FAWNS over special needs CHILDREN. Once puberty hits and they are no longer young, cute and no amount of therapies or interventions can transform them into “typical tax payers” the attention stops- the services stop- the supports stop; at a time when parents need them the MOST. 

Ali may have a very fulfilled productive life ahead of her, but no one is going to give LEAH attention due to Ali’s disability in another 20yrs, or even 10yrs IMHO. 

Such a sad commentary on our society.  

It's so unlikely that Ali will prove us all wrong but I still hope just a little. 

[alexa]

I guess I am confused about all of the latest activity because I though both Leah and Corey were noticing the changes in Ali and how tired she was getting--even from the little bits of activity at school that prompted them to get her an aide.  So why would cheer be okay now?  Does she just not walk the rest of the day and saves her energy for ball and cheer?  I feel like I need an update to better understand what exactly is going on...

[Scarlett45]

28 minutes ago, alexa said:

I guess I am confused about all of the latest activity because I though both Leah and Corey were noticing the changes in Ali and how tired she was getting--even from the little bits of activity at school that prompted them to get her an aide.  So why would cheer be okay now?  Does she just not walk the rest of the day and saves her energy for ball and cheer?  I feel like I need an update to better understand what exactly is going on...

Both Leah and Corey have their priorities messed up. I’m sure Ali is tired, but like any kid she wants to play and have fun over spending energy on productivity. Ali needs recreation and fun time like any kid, but not in activities that leave her too tired to function or to open her lunch. Wtf. 

Corey did suggest attending a counselor and getting some support for Gracie (which almost made me cry) but they’ve got their head in the sand about Ali. So much ableism abound. 

[Christina87]

On 4/8/2018 at 9:58 AM, Scarlett45 said:

Actually I wouldn’t be surprised if she was unconsciously trying to do that. Hanging out with my Sib Group members (most of us have siblings with cognitive disabilities but there are a few who’s siblings had/have severe physical disabilities like MD and spinal muscular atrophy) I hear all kinds of weird things about family dynamics in these type of situations. Leah may believe that a short life filled with “normal” activities is more fulfilling than a longer life “bound to a wheelchair”(damn that sounds like a bad porn movie- barf), also she may think making Ali do what’s best for her long term help is “punishing her” for not being “normal”......

 

Child, if anything hanging out with other Sibs has taught me is that people react 300 million ways to the exact same set of circumstances. 

That is such a good perspective! I could definitely see Leah thinking that way, even if on an unconscious level. 

I think Ali does want to do cheer and softball, just because Gracie does it. If Gracie were to get bored and quit (which isn't going to happen, because Leah would make her keep cheering, and Corey would make her play softball), I wonder how interested Ali would be. Seeing her sister excel at athletic activities has to make her want to partake in them too!

[GreatKazu]

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Messer says that, “I’ve been trying to make her use it as much as possible. I feel like she should have that option, like I’m not going to tell her, “No, you can’t walk.’ You’ve got to be out of your f**king mind! I’m not going to tell my child that if she wants to.”

“I can’t allow her to push herself too far,” Messer adds, clearly indicating she understands the importance of Ali using her wheelchair.

From a year ago: http://www.realmrhousewife.com/2017/02/06/leah-messer-not-forcing-daughter-to-use-wheelchair/

[Christina87]

I feel for her, but she still needs to follow doctor's orders, because this situation is serious. It's not like if your doctor told you to lose a few pounds, but you splurge and eat cake on your birthday. The repercussions of just letting Ali do whatever are too great!

i really think Leah should just explain to Ali why it isn't a good idea to walk, in terms that she will understand and that aren't too upsetting. She doesn't have to tell her a grim prognosis, but something along the lines of, "you lose strength when you walk, so we have to save that for rare occasions. Your wheelchair will help you do whatever you want to do!" Who knows, it might even be a relief to Ali, who is tired but feels like she has to do what everyone else is doing, while never measuring up. She may prefer using the chair if it was explicit that it wasn't the lazy way out. 

[ghoulina]

I think they face a real challenge because they've been letting Ali do all this super physical stuff for so long now. Not only letting, encouraging in some cases. I cannot even fathom what it's like to have a child with this condition, but I can understand the desire to want to give your child as much of a "normal" life as possible. I know it's not an easy situation to be in. At all. However, they have to see that it's only causing harm in the long run. And by allowing this to go on as long as they have, it's going to be hell to get her to stop. 

[Rebecca]

Is Ali blind in one eye? I was thinking Ali was saying that (about what’s it like seeing with 2 eyes) because she has to wear glasses, not because she’s actually blind in one eye! Somehow I missed that information if it’s true. Ugh.

Edited April 12, 2018 by Rebecca

[Mkay]

[druzy]

11 hours ago, Mkay said:

If Leah used sentences instead of her lazy hashtags:

#cheerleaders- If you are a cheerleader you are important.

#competitionmakeup- If you look pretty you are pretty.

#famoussuperstars- If you are pretty you will be a famous superstar that will be loved.

#competition- Stay pretty or your competition will steal your love away.  

#oneup- Be better than everyone at everything.

[akr]

1 hour ago, druzy said:

#famoussuperstars- If you are pretty you will be a famous superstar that will be loved.

Well, that's actually the name of the cheer club her kids belong to, and "One Up" is the name of the competition they were in . . . The #competitionmakeup is a reason to choose another activity, or at least another cheer club, for your kids, in my book, though.  But then again, I have never understood cheerleading, especially as an activity for little kids.

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[druzy]

8 hours ago, akr said:

Well, that's actually the name of the cheer club her kids belong to, and "One Up" is the name of the competition they were in . . . The #competitionmakeup is a reason to choose another activity, or at least another cheer club, for your kids, in my book, though.  But then again, I have never understood cheerleading, especially as an activity for little kids.

My bad- I didn't know that ?

[alexa]

17 hours ago, druzy said:

If Leah used sentences instead of her lazy hashtags:

#cheerleaders- If you are a cheerleader you are important.

#competitionmakeup- If you look pretty you are pretty.

#famoussuperstars- If you are pretty you will be a famous superstar that will be loved.

#competition- Stay pretty or your competition will steal your love away.  

#oneup- Be better than everyone at everything.

Why do they have to make cute girls ugly?  Even if they want to wear makeup there are a million ways to make it look good. The point of makeup is not to make you look awful. 

[Christina87]

17 hours ago, akr said:

Well, that's actually the name of the cheer club her kids belong to, and "One Up" is the name of the competition they were in . . . The #competitionmakeup is a reason to choose another activity, or at least another cheer club, for your kids, in my book, though.  But then again, I have never understood cheerleading, especially as an activity for little kids.

I agree! No offense to anyone who grew up in cheer or has kids in cheer. I have zero issue for high school or middle school cheerleaders who are actually cheering on a team, and even some elementary schools have squads! I cheered for our football team in elementary, but we had very wholesome uniforms and didn't wear makeup. I guess I just don't understand it, because you can do dance or gymnastics and learn the same skills. Dance (unless you're doing the dance moms kind of thing where you wear vegas showgirl outfits and tons of makeup) teaches you more versatile skills, such as ballet, tap, jazz, acrobatics, and lyrical, and we just wore a little bit of makeup to be seen under the lights, and appropriate costumes. Gymnastics teaches you the tumbling, and again, you get to learn different events. Little kid cheer, to me, seems like a watered down way to learn these skills while also learning how to impress the boys. Of course, I don't know much about it, so I may be way off base. 

I am impressed, however, at how Leah seems to be able to get her kids to practice and competitions. I'm sure she can only do it because she is motivated, and would have some excuse why that organization couldn't transfer to getting a job. I wish that she could work with the cheer team, because she really seems to love that and have skills in that area! Still, would you trust your child to be safe if Leah was spotting them? And she would never be creative enough to choreograph the routines. If she could be a back-up coach as a full-time job who just reviewed the routines with the kids, or worked while supervised constantly, it could maybe be a good fit!

[ghoulina]

The whole competitive cheer culture is so weird, to me. Again, no offense to anyone. Maybe I am missing something. But these girls just look like little hookers. The skirts/shorts are soooo damn short. And that makeup! I don't have any issue with cheering on school sports teams...except....it seems that's rarely what cheer squads do these days. Too many of them are more about doing a simulated-sex dance routine during half time. And yes, I agree that gymnastics would be a better option for these girls if that's the aspect they like about cheering. Because I'm not arguing that cheering takes some real skill. But the need to tart your daughters up to do it is just lost on me. 

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

19 hours ago, Christina87 said:

I am impressed, however, at how Leah seems to be able to get her kids to practice and competitions. I'm sure she can only do it because she is motivated, and would have some excuse why that organization couldn't transfer to getting a job. I wish that she could work with the cheer team, because she really seems to love that and have skills in that area! Still, would you trust your child to be safe if Leah was spotting them? And she would never be creative enough to choreograph the routines. If she could be a back-up coach as a full-time job who just reviewed the routines with the kids, or worked while supervised constantly, it could maybe be a good fit!

I agree, Cheer seems to be the one thing that Leah enjoys and can stick with (besides Robbie) for some period of time.  If she could be an assistant coach or even like a receptionist at a competitive cheer facility, that would probably be a great fit for her.  

[Birdee]

On 4/14/2018 at 10:32 AM, Mkay said:

The "leg pop" pose Gracie is doing drives me almost as batty as the makeup. I know a lot of people do it, but on little girls it just looks wrong. My 10-year-old niece does it in every picture. I swear to JesusGodLeah that if Baby Birdee pops that pose, I'm shooting rubberbands at her knees until she stands up straight. 

[DudeLeaveMeAlone]

51 minutes ago, Birdee said:

The "leg pop" pose Gracie is doing drives me almost as batty as the makeup. I know a lot of people do it, but on little girls it just looks wrong. My 10-year-old niece does it in every picture. I swear to JesusGodLeah that if Baby Birdee pops that pose, I'm shooting rubberbands at her knees until she stands up straight. 

She's is straight up copying Leah's pose in that picture.

[TexasGal]

On 14/04/2018 at 10:11 PM, druzy said:

If Leah used sentences instead of her lazy hashtags:

#cheerleaders- If you are a cheerleader you are important.

#competitionmakeup- If you look pretty you are pretty.

#famoussuperstars- If you are pretty you will be a famous superstar that will be loved.

#competition- Stay pretty or your competition will steal your love away.  

#oneup- Be better than everyone at everything.

You forgot #cheermoms - We are living vicariously through our children.

[Christina87]

5 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

You forgot #cheermoms - We are living vicariously through our children.

Very true! I wonder how many of the #cheermoms were popular, cool cheerleaders in high school, and how many were dweebs hoping their children will have it better. Is there a hierarchy of moms? LOL. 

[Bridget]

On 4/9/2018 at 2:25 PM, GreatKazu said:

From a year ago: http://www.realmrhousewife.com/2017/02/06/leah-messer-not-forcing-daughter-to-use-wheelchair/

Messer says that, “I’ve been trying to make her use it as much as possible. I feel like she should have that option, like I’m not going to tell her, “No, you can’t walk.’ You’ve got to be out of your f**king mind! I’m not going to tell my child that if she wants to.”

“I can’t allow her to push herself too far,” Messer adds, clearly indicating she understands the importance of Ali using her wheelchair.

On 4/11/2018 at 8:03 AM, ghoulina said:

I think they face a real challenge because they've been letting Ali do all this super physical stuff for so long now. Not only letting, encouraging in some cases. I cannot even fathom what it's like to have a child with this condition, but I can understand the desire to want to give your child as much of a "normal" life as possible. I know it's not an easy situation to be in. At all. However, they have to see that it's only causing harm in the long run. And by allowing this to go on as long as they have, it's going to be hell to get her to stop. 

This is exactly why so many students, ones who are in wheelchairs or not, are so freakin'  out of control in classrooms. The amount of actual moaning & groaning that takes place when a particular task is introduced is straight up shocking. I've been so tempted to say "I don't negotiate with terrorists" way too many times, but I refrain because I don't want parents calling me racist because their high schooler doesn't understand a wee bit of political snark.

Too many parents don't make their kids do anything, so the behavioral patterns obviously go on and on. When the time comes for their kid (grades 6-12) to do the same thing that the other 32 students are doing, comply with all of the  directions that are given and aren't able to "wear down" a teacher over every little thing, the student isn't a happy camper and they're not timid about letting their unhappiness be known. At that moment in time. Publicly. In front of their peers. 

It's sad because they don't understand how the real world works as their world for so long has been about telling their parents what they want to do.

When I taught middle school, an 8th grader asked "Does this essay really have to be five paragraphs? How about three really good ones?"

It was (and still is) scary on many levels because not only did they not understand the basic format of an essay, but it's evidence that they've been allowed to call the shots at home and have gotten away with it, so they think nothing of trying to haggle with their teacher. Having to do an assignment they don't like or even completing a final exam project that's worth 50% of their grade is quite foreign to some because they don't understand why "X is X" and they don't get to have an opinion or choice.

(I've had students choose not to do major assignments or projects because they didn't "like the topic/group members/format", knowing full well the result would be an F for the course. They really are living in their world and many of us are simply passing through - and it's shit like what Leah does and says that ultimately hinders any success their kid(s) experience. It's quite sad.)
 

[Christina87]

1 hour ago, Bridget said:

Messer says that, “I’ve been trying to make her use it as much as possible. I feel like she should have that option, like I’m not going to tell her, “No, you can’t walk.’ You’ve got to be out of your f**king mind! I’m not going to tell my child that if she wants to.”

“I can’t allow her to push herself too far,” Messer adds, clearly indicating she understands the importance of Ali using her wheelchair.

This is exactly why so many students, ones who are in wheelchairs or not, are so freakin'  out of control in classrooms. The amount of actual moaning & groaning that takes place when a particular task is introduced is straight up shocking. I've been so tempted to say "I don't negotiate with terrorists" way too many times, but I refrain because I don't want parents calling me racist because their high schooler doesn't understand a wee bit of political snark.

Too many parents don't make their kids do anything, so the behavioral patterns obviously go on and on. When the time comes for their kid (grades 6-12) to do the same thing that the other 32 students are doing, comply with all of the  directions that are given and aren't able to "wear down" a teacher over every little thing, the student isn't a happy camper and they're not timid about letting their unhappiness be known. At that moment in time. Publicly. In front of their peers. 

It's sad because they don't understand how the real world works as their world for so long has been about telling their parents what they want to do.

When I taught middle school, an 8th grader asked "Does this essay really have to be five paragraphs? How about three really good ones?"

It was (and still is) scary on many levels because not only did they not understand the basic format of an essay, but it's evidence that they've been allowed to call the shots at home and have gotten away with it, so they think nothing of trying to haggle with their teacher. Having to do an assignment they don't like or even completing a final exam project that's worth 50% of their grade is quite foreign to some because they don't understand why "X is X" and they don't get to have an opinion or choice.

(I've had students choose not to do major assignments or projects because they didn't "like the topic/group members/format", knowing full well the result would be an F for the course. They really are living in their world and many of us are simply passing through - and it's shit like what Leah does and says that ultimately hinders any success their kid(s) experience. It's quite sad.)
 

PREACH!!! Fellow middle school teacher here. I had sixth graders today try to drown me out and talk over me because they wanted to continue their conversation. Sixth graders!!! I've also had eighth graders try to negotiate their way out of trouble, because they have a big game that night and want to play. Seriously? And don't get me started about asking them to pick a pencil off the floor or tidy up the classroom. If they didn't make the mess, they pitch the biggest fit, and aren't happy even if they did make the mess! It's so, so obvious that they call the shots at home. I see that being Gracie in a few years!

[Mkay]

14 hours ago, Christina87 said:

PREACH!!! Fellow middle school teacher here. I had sixth graders today try to drown me out and talk over me because they wanted to continue their conversation. Sixth graders!!! I've also had eighth graders try to negotiate their way out of trouble, because they have a big game that night and want to play. Seriously? And don't get me started about asking them to pick a pencil off the floor or tidy up the classroom. If they didn't make the mess, they pitch the biggest fit, and aren't happy even if they did make the mess! It's so, so obvious that they call the shots at home. I see that being Gracie in a few years!

So I have to brag.  Before Christmas holidays my daughter told me how kids were doing just what you said, talking over, being disrespectful, (she’s in 6th grade) and rude to this older teacher she has for homeroom.  My daughter felt bad for the way the kids were treating the teacher and she knew it was wrong and could see the frustration on the teacher. She got in my car and told the story and as she did she started tearing up and I had to pull over and hug her. She said after class she walked up to Mrs. R and told her “I’m sorry the kids were so mean and not listening today.”  She said the teacher gave her a huge hug and had a few tears. She told my daughter thank you so much and hat she would never, ever forget her.  Talk about making a momma proud. I always tell her not to follow the crowd and I told her she did a good thing and that Mrs R really will never forget her.  

[Farmfam]

Until my daughter was born I was a preschool teacher. The 3 and 4 years neogotiated....no is no sometimes and I don't "owe" you an explanation! I agree, it's kids that have been allowed choices, negotiations, and leeway on everything. 

[ghoulina]

6 hours ago, Mkay said:

So I have to brag.  Before Christmas holidays my daughter told me how kids were doing just what you said, talking over, being disrespectful, (she’s in 6th grade) and rude to this older teacher she has for homeroom.  My daughter felt bad for the way the kids were treating the teacher and she knew it was wrong and could see the frustration on the teacher. She got in my car and told the story and as she did she started tearing up and I had to pull over and hug her. She said after class she walked up to Mrs. R and told her “I’m sorry the kids were so mean and not listening today.”  She said the teacher gave her a huge hug and had a few tears. She told my daughter thank you so much and hat she would never, ever forget her.  Talk about making a momma proud. I always tell her not to follow the crowd and I told her she did a good thing and that Mrs R really will never forget her.  

You have raised an awesome kid!!! Peer pressure is a very real thing and it's hard not to go along with that the group is doing. Kudos to her for being able to do what she thinks is right, even if no one else is. One of my sisters is a sub and the kids are often sooooo nasty to her! A moment like that would make her day. 

[FairyDusted]

7 hours ago, Mkay said:

So I have to brag.  Before Christmas holidays my daughter told me how kids were doing just what you said, talking over, being disrespectful, (she’s in 6th grade) and rude to this older teacher she has for homeroom.  My daughter felt bad for the way the kids were treating the teacher and she knew it was wrong and could see the frustration on the teacher. She got in my car and told the story and as she did she started tearing up and I had to pull over and hug her. She said after class she walked up to Mrs. R and told her “I’m sorry the kids were so mean and not listening today.”  She said the teacher gave her a huge hug and had a few tears. She told my daughter thank you so much and hat she would never, ever forget her.  Talk about making a momma proud. I always tell her not to follow the crowd and I told her she did a good thing and that Mrs R really will never forget her.  

This made me tear up! What a caring child!

[Mkay]

1 hour ago, FairyDusted said:

This made me tear up! What a caring child!

I think I may have mentioned it back in December when it happened because it made me so proud. Sorry if it’s a repeat. I didn’t even leave the parking lot of the school I had to pull over and hug her I was about to bawl.  That teacher told other teachers who also told her thank you.  If anything at least I know when out of my sight my child is behaving. I’m super proud of her. ☺️ 

[FairyDusted]

And @Mkay we are proud of you! ?❤️

[druzy]

Leah snaps back at David:

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Jenelle Evans‘ husband is causing trouble in Teen Mom 2 Land once again!

David Eason left a series of comments on his former co-star, Leah Messer‘s Instagram post that slammed Leah and Corey Simms over the amount of stage makeup their daughter Aleeah was wearing during a cheer competition.“I can’t believe Cory would allow her to wear that much makeup on her face,” David wrote in the comment section of Leah’s photo.

When one of Leah’s followers called David out for criticizing another dad, David implied that Leah disregarded what Corey would want.

“No, she just probably didn’t ask him if it was OK first,” David wrote. “I doubt he would allow that.”

Leah’s followers took David to task over the comments he made about Leah and Corey’s parenting choice.

“Maybe Corey isn’t a control freak like you,” one person replied.

“This comment just proves how controlling you are,” another wrote. “Leah is her parent too. She doesn’t need his permission, especially for makeup.”

Many followers pointed out that heavy makeup is a requirement for the kind of competitive cheer that Aleeah does.

“She’s a cheerleader on a STAGE with a lot of LIGHTS,” the follower explained. “The judges have to have able to see them smile and their facial expressions for points. How hard is that to understand?”

Leah eventually responded to what David wrote.

“Why are you even commenting on my post?” she replied to him.

As ‘Teen Mom 2’ fans know, David’s unfiltered social media musings got him axed from the show back in February, when he went on a homophobic rant on Twitter and refused to apologize for what he posted.

The Ashley has reached out to Corey for comment on this story.

Why didn't The Ashley reach out to Leah for comment?

Edited April 19, 2018 by druzy

[FairyDusted]

So why does he allow his own daughter to cheer with make up?

I’ll wait....

[akr]

40 minutes ago, druzy said:

Why didn't The Ashley reach out to Leah for comment?

I'm guessing it's just because she's already done such a bang-up job of speaking up for herself. 

[FairyDusted]

Bang Job Leah? which one does not belong?

[Christina87]

12 hours ago, Mkay said:

So I have to brag.  Before Christmas holidays my daughter told me how kids were doing just what you said, talking over, being disrespectful, (she’s in 6th grade) and rude to this older teacher she has for homeroom.  My daughter felt bad for the way the kids were treating the teacher and she knew it was wrong and could see the frustration on the teacher. She got in my car and told the story and as she did she started tearing up and I had to pull over and hug her. She said after class she walked up to Mrs. R and told her “I’m sorry the kids were so mean and not listening today.”  She said the teacher gave her a huge hug and had a few tears. She told my daughter thank you so much and hat she would never, ever forget her.  Talk about making a momma proud. I always tell her not to follow the crowd and I told her she did a good thing and that Mrs R really will never forget her.  

Awwwww that is so sweet! What a caring, awesome little girl. I'm sure that teacher really appreciated that. It seems like in this job, we have so many people in our corner, but we often forget that. It's so easy to get distracted by the unruly students and unreasonable admins, while forgetting about the truly supportive parents and wonderful children. I'm sure your sweet child reminded that teacher that people are rooting for her. Kudos! Well done, mom! You are rocking #momlife...and Jenelle, who looooves that hashtag, is not lol!

[Mkay]

5 hours ago, FairyDusted said:

And @Mkay we are proud of you! ?❤️

Awww shucks. ☺️

[Calm81]

David being misogynistic what a shocker. I guess his idea of gender roles are still locked in the 1950s - well, aside from the man works while the woman tends to the home and children. David wants all of the control while the woman still brings home the bacon.

It’s obvious David is butthurt about being fired as he’s trying his damndest to stay relevant and stir the pot. Loser. Use all of that energy in finding a job, you bum!

Leah, good job in standing up for yourself without stuping to his level.

Edited April 19, 2018 by Calm81

[Birdee]

20 hours ago, druzy said:

Leah snaps back at David:

 

Can we all just take a minute to appreciate the fact that Leah used the correct "you're" in that tweet? 

[Christina87]

9 hours ago, Calm81 said:

David being misogynistic what a shocker. I guess his idea of gender roles are still locked in the 1950s - well, aside from the man works while the woman tends to the home and children. David wants all of the control while the woman still brings home the bacon.

It’s obvious David is butthurt about being fired as he’s trying his damndest to stay relevant and stir the pot. Loser. Use all of that energy in finding a job, you bum!

Leah, good job in standing up for yourself without stuping to his level.

I live in the South, and soooooo many men here are like that!!! They go by "biblical" gender roles, but also expect the wife to hold down a full time job. It's like, no, mister...if you expect me to fix all the meals (including ones for you to eat at work), do all the laundry and dishes, all the shopping, plan all the social events, have 100% of the childcare duties, and also make sure I diet and exercise to be your sex symbol, I'm going to say, "hell, no!" to working a full time job! It's crazy! Sooooo many women here are in that situation because their husband is "conservative" and "traditional." One of my best friends from college is married with a masters degree, and brings home the bacon while her husband works a verrrrry part-time job, with the kids in daycare. When she is home, she's damn well required to make him a sandwich whenever he asks for one, between juggling the children and chores. He is the king of the castle, playing video games all day. Lurch is awful, but this situation is sickening common here!

[Scarlett45]

1 hour ago, Christina87 said:

I live in the South, and soooooo many men here are like that!!! They go by "biblical" gender roles, but also expect the wife to hold down a full time job. It's like, no, mister...if you expect me to fix all the meals (including ones for you to eat at work), do all the laundry and dishes, all the shopping, plan all the social events, have 100% of the childcare duties, and also make sure I diet and exercise to be your sex symbol, I'm going to say, "hell, no!" to working a full time job! It's crazy! Sooooo many women here are in that situation because their husband is "conservative" and "traditional." One of my best friends from college is married with a masters degree, and brings home the bacon while her husband works a verrrrry part-time job, with the kids in daycare. When she is home, she's damn well required to make him a sandwich whenever he asks for one, between juggling the children and chores. He is the king of the castle, playing video games all day. Lurch is awful, but this situation is sickening common here!

Yeah ummm no. I know exactly what you’re talking about @Christina87, men that want all the benefits of being a headship but none of the responsibility that comes with it.  Ummmhmmm. Although the whole conservative thing isn’t my jam, there are men that will hold up their end of the bargain (like basically every guy born in Ghana, Nigeria and Senegal that I dated)- however they would never be with the trash that is Jenelle because they would expect their wife to have basic common sense and morals. 

Lurch is a piece of shit and water seeks its own level.

[Christina87]

1 hour ago, Scarlett45 said:

Yeah ummm no. I know exactly what you’re talking about @Christina87, men that want all the benefits of being a headship but none of the responsibility that comes with it.  Ummmhmmm. Although the whole conservative thing isn’t my jam, there are men that will hold up their end of the bargain (like basically every guy born in Ghana, Nigeria and Senegal that I dated)- however they would never be with the trash that is Jenelle because they would expect their wife to have basic common sense and morals. 

Lurch is a piece of shit and water seeks its own level.

Haha I dated an Indian guy like that too! Maybe a lot of people from different countries are like that. I would have had an easy life, lol, but he SMELLED. I'm not saying that is true of Indian people in general!!! However, he refused to wear deodorant, which you wouldn't notice a polite distance away, but sans clothing...you get the picture. He was really good to me, and over the next few years, he kept begging me to take him back, and I would be tempted, once even planning to spend a weekend with him, but ultimately cancelling the night before because I just couldn't deal with the smell. When I first moved in, he spent a night at my apartment, and I had to deep clean everything the next day! Poor guy...he was so nice, and crazy about me, and made bank, but it makes me gag to even think about smelling that long-term!

[Scarlett45]

18 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

Haha I dated an Indian guy like that too! Maybe a lot of people from different countries are like that. I would have had an easy life, lol, but he SMELLED. I'm not saying that is true of Indian people in general!!! However, he refused to wear deodorant, which you wouldn't notice a polite distance away, but sans clothing...you get the picture. He was really good to me, and over the next few years, he kept begging me to take him back, and I would be tempted, once even planning to spend a weekend with him, but ultimately cancelling the night before because I just couldn't deal with the smell. When I first moved in, he spent a night at my apartment, and I had to deep clean everything the next day! Poor guy...he was so nice, and crazy about me, and made bank, but it makes me gag to even think about smelling that long-term!

Replying in small talk. 

[Tatum]

On 4/18/2018 at 7:30 PM, druzy said:

Leah snaps back at David:

Why didn't The Ashley reach out to Leah for comment?

Well, on the one hand, good for Leah for getting the correct "you're". Guess those online grammar quizzes have been paying off.

 

Wow, David, going after Leah, the patron saint of the general TM2 viewership? Her legions of leghumpers will keep you busy responding on social media for quite some time.

[druzy]

[teapot]

Today's Leah's 26th birthday, y'all!  Cheers!!

[FairyDusted]

She's a HARD 26 at that! Puff Puff Pass! Happy Birthday.

[druzy]

MTV posted recaps of last season. This is Leah's Journey. 

Leah's frustrated with Jeremy not playing an active role in daughter Addie's life while doing her best to raise twins Gracie and Ali.

[monicageller]

3 hours ago, teapot said:

Today's Leah's 26th birthday, y'all!  Cheers!!

Woohoo! Today marks 3 years since we've needed the title of this post changed.

[Kazu]

[druzy]

Her eyebrows are really thick.

[Kazu]

She is trying to bring back the Frida Kahlo look.