Season 6 Discussion

[PamelaMaeSnap]

1 hour ago, funky-rat said:

Or why some people who were in their 90's have a photo of them when they were 16 on their obituary.

I will resemble that remark (though I doubt I'll make it into my 90s). Meanwhile, Facebook serves that purpose for me. I haven't liked a picture of me taken this century. 

Also, I way preferred the couch Debbie liked over the one Larissa liked. The latter made me squirm just looking at it and imagining how my fat thighs would stick to that faux pleather. 

[Mothra]

My point wasn't that Larissa should have been allowed to buy anything she wanted--although that's what she says Coltie told her, *if* Debbie was along, or that she should have access to his credit card.  My point was that Larissa was told that Coltie and his Smother had not bought a couch for the living room because they thought Larissa would like to choose one.  Plus, Smother said Larissa could decorate the house any way she wanted to.

Except no, she wasn't.

Further, no couch in the living room = no neutral place to sit and talk and get to know one another.  They eat and then go to their rooms.  Not the best way for Larissa and Smother to bond.

If Coltie wanted to OK the couch, he should have gone to Big Lots with Larissa and seen the damn thing for himself, rather than throwing her completely and immediately under the Smother bus.

[iwasish]

49 minutes ago, Mothra said:

My point wasn't that Larissa should have been allowed to buy anything she wanted--although that's what she says Coltie told her, *if* Debbie was along, or that she should have access to his credit card.  My point was that Larissa was told that Coltie and his Smother had not bought a couch for the living room because they thought Larissa would like to choose one.  Plus, Smother said Larissa could decorate the house any way she wanted to.

Except no, she wasn't.

Further, no couch in the living room = no neutral place to sit and talk and get to know one another.  They eat and then go to their rooms.  Not the best way for Larissa and Smother to bond.

If Coltie wanted to OK the couch, he should have gone to Big Lots with Larissa and seen the damn thing for himself, rather than throwing her completely and immediately under the Smother bus.

True, but I did not get the impression that Larissa wanted Colts approval regarding style. She wanted to be in charge. And if she had wanted Colts approval she and Debbie could have come to agreement on a selection of a couches they both find acceptable and let him make the final choice.

As more background is revealed on each couple, my opinion of their behavior and motivations changes. 

Edited November 15, 2018 by iwasish

[sainte-chapelle]

Finally watching the live show and damn it Angela does look nice. 

[CSS.MD]

8 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

Yes. The K-1 is a fiancé visa, the intention is that you are engaged to be married and the visa is issued to facilitate the marriage. 

I’m still fascinated that a “fiancé visa” even exists? ??‍♀️

And it’s not like I’m sheltered and I’ve never been to America, but I was on a B1/B2 visa.

The B2 visa is essentially a “travel for pleasure” tourist visa, while the B1 was a “business visa” but NOT a work permit (my understanding was that you were allowed to have go on job interviews/auditions, find yourself an agent, negotiations, and work meetings—but as soon as you landed a gig, your employer would have to arrange something to allow you to work there legally). ?

But a visa for wedding planning? I never knew there was such thing until I started watching “90-Day Fiancé”.

It’s like the unicorn of visas... LOL. ??✨

Edited November 15, 2018 by CSS.MD
Because the unicorn emoji was absolutely necessary.

[CSS.MD]

9 hours ago, funky-rat said:

I don't think Leida wants anything to do with being a doctor.  I think she wants to play, and be the next Kardashian-type person (receives money for essentially nothing) and wants to get away from her parents, who seem to be pushing the idea.  

+1,000,000

I think it’s a front too. I wonder what excuse she’ll use to wiggle herself out of doctorhood? Unless she tries to save face and actually sticks to her words and puts herself through an American mes school. I’d watch it! ???

Edited November 15, 2018 by CSS.MD

[Empress1]

General question, as someone who is watching this show for the first time this season: are all the episodes 2-3 hours long?

[Scarlett45]

45 minutes ago, CSS.MD said:

I’m still fascinated that a “fiancé visa” even exists? ??‍♀️

And it’s not like I’m sheltered and I’ve never been to America, but I was on a B1/B2 visa.

The B2 visa is essentially a “travel for pleasure” tourist visa, while the B1 was a “business visa” but NOT a work permit (my understanding was that you were allowed to have go on job interviews/auditions, find yourself an agent, negotiations, and work meetings—but as soon as you landed a gig, your employer would have to arrange something to allow you to work there legally). ?

But a visa for wedding planning? I never knew there was such thing until I started watching “90-Day Fiancé”.

It’s like the unicorn of visas... LOL. ??✨

Yup. I worked on a few straight out of law school. It’s not really as scandalous as TLC has made them out to be, most of the cases I’ve come across were for “normal” folk who met their fiancé while living/working/studying abroad and wanted to get married in the USA. The K-1 makes the green card process after marriage a bit easier paperwork wise. 

[Adeejay]

On ‎11‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 3:44 PM, Major Bigtime said:

I wasn’t implying she’s not a good mother. I just wonder why they are never talked about, no photos that I’ve seen. 

I think Ashley is to be commended for keeping her children out of this mess.  During Season 4, Melanie took a lot of heat for having her son, Hunter featured so prominently on the show.  So much so, that he wasn't featured in the follow-up.

A poster said that Olga is the most genuine woman to ever appear on this show.  I disagree.  I don't think she can hold a candle to  Kirlyam (Season 2) and Amy (Season 3).  I would put those two lovely ladies up against her any day. 

[sasha206]

15 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

I think Ashley is to be commended for keeping her children out of this mess.  During Season 4, Melanie took a lot of heat for having her son, Hunter featured so prominently on the show.  So much so, that he wasn't featured in the follow-up.

A poster said that Olga is the most genuine woman to ever appear on this show.  I disagree.  I don't think she can hold a candle to  Kirlyam (Season 2) and Amy (Season 3).  I would put those two lovely ladies up against her any day. 

Agreed.  It's better to keep the kids out of this mess/

And yes, Kirlyam and Amy were darling.  I think the thing that strikes me with Olga is like Kirlyam and Amy, the way they met was organic and not some loser trolling for the hot hungry for green card mate.

[sasha206]

8 hours ago, eatsleep said:

Ooops, 12 days. They spent 5 days in Mexico. Then 7 more in Brazil.

Yeah, I would hesitate to give someone I've known for 12 days my cc. But then I would also hesitate to bring the person to the US on a K-1 visa after 12 days as well. 

 

Amen to that.  But then again, Colt is a double D!  

[Morgalisa]

I must have missed some episodes or even a season. I need to find the Amy epis.

[PityFree]

4 minutes ago, Morgalisa said:

I must have missed some episodes or even a season. I need to find the Amy epis.

 You will be charmed by her and you will also love her wedding dress that had pockets!!! Pockets!

[Kangatush]

1 hour ago, Empress1 said:

General question, as someone who is watching this show for the first time this season: are all the episodes 2-3 hours long?

Two hours is standard.

[Spike]

26 minutes ago, Morgalisa said:

I must have missed some episodes or even a season. I need to find the Amy epis.

She was from South Africa and met a guy from PA while he was there (maybe on a religious trip/mission).

[Spike]

13 minutes ago, Kangatush said:

Two hours is standard.

I keep vowing to stop watching the live shows because they are never worth the time investment, but alas I am weak.

 

A good trick with the main show is to DVR it and then start watching it about a half hour into airing while it is still recording.  Then by fast forwarding through commercials and promos for other TLC shows you finish right around the same time you would have if you watched it live with commercials.  This is great for baseball games too.  Don’t start watching the recording until an hour into the game.

[Dance4Life]

13 hours ago, doyouevengohere said:

I also don't think Olga schemed to get the American life.  She was just college girl having some fun for a summer and it ended in accidental pregnancy.  I think she truly wants the baby and wants to make it work with Steven.  Steven lucked out with her; b/c there ARE many young women that would have schemed to get pregnant with an American and get themselves over here at any cost.  Olga does not come off that way.  She's probably excited and curious about America, but I get the feeling she would be okay if Steven suddenly had a change of heart and brain and wanted to live there with her.

 

*by accidental pregnancy I mean she did not plan it.  I honestly would not be surprised if she knew very little about birth control or fertile times of her cycle.  If she didn't have a mom or sister or other female figure to explain things or not a great education where sex ed was covered; she was just bumbling around figuring things out on her own or didn't even think of consequences of having unprotected sex.   I have no idea how open Russia is about that stuff or how they approach that in gov't schools.  Steven should know what a condom is though and how and why they are used.

Olga DID scheme to get an American life! She applied to come here and work.  Like left Russia and came to USA alone. I think that is more than proof of someone who is very interested in American life, or at the very least leaving Russia.

 

You see a lot of Russian and Eastern European young beautiful girls working abroad.  The Gulf, Middle East. Especially, Dubai.   They get hire for office and hospitality work.  Also, on cruise ships. Flight attendants.  A lot of European girls that work budget Euro airlines their goal is to work for bigger luxury airlines like Emirates, Qatar, etc. I knew so many Euro girls working at Emirates.  This is their main motivator for learning English. 

 

There is internet with everything you have ever wanted to know along with free porn next to those international  job listings.  Let me tell yah....kids in orphanages grow up very fast.  This is the reason she is pregnant so irresponsibly. Getting pregnant is the oldest trick in the book! 

 

So far, I agree.  She has a cute personality. She is beautiful.  Not so much drama with her.

 

Lastly, nobody this season wants to be a MODEL....even though Olga and Fernanda are very pretty. Larissa hasn’t hit us with the ‘modeling career’ either.  Very refreshing, indeed.  

 

We actually have someone that wants to be a doctor! Which is pretty cool.

[Dance4Life]

40 minutes ago, PityFree said:

 You will be charmed by her and you will also love her wedding dress that had pockets!!! Pockets!

Amy is the S. African girl?  

 

Amy and Kirlyam both married Mormons.  Let’s see, Kalani is Mormon.  Did the Russian single mom marry a Mormon? The party girl that gave birth to the biracial baby married a Mormon, too.  Someone explain that???  (I am kinda glad because the little girl is beautiful).

 

Who else is Mormon on 90 Days?

[Raja]

50 minutes ago, Spike said:

She was from South Africa and met a guy from PA while he was there (maybe on a religious trip/mission).

They, Amy and Danny were students together at the big Australian evangelical megachurch  and top line CCM recording artist Hillsongs in their music program.  It was a trip that the TLC story line was the racist Americans in-laws when she was South African with their recent racial history in the mix.

Edited November 15, 2018 by Raja

[Indomie]

15 hours ago, Mothra said:

I think this is a really good point.  They have to be wondering why Eric is going to such lengths--and expense--to keep them out of his apartment.  And does Eric think Leida is not going to tell them how bad it is, especially if she really does want to go back home?  If she truly wants to stay here, I bet she'll go along with Eric and keep them away.

Leida seems to me to be one of the worst green-card seekers we've seen yet.  She doesn't simply want a better life in America--it seems like her life in Indonesia is pretty sweet--but she wants to be an American doctor so she can earn lots of money.  She said it herself--doctors in Indonesia don't make a lot; American doctors can be rich.  She is willing to fuck Eric to get there, but does she--and do her parents--really think Eric is prepared to send her to medical school?  Maybe Eric is expecting Leida's father to pay her educational expenses while he enjoys that sweet Indonesian poontang, but is Leida willing to put up with living in squalor (on top of having to fuck Eric) to get her MD?  From minimal searches online, I'm thinking her bachelor's in "medicine" might not transfer, at least not fully, to an American medical school, and she might need to earn an American bachelor's degree in some science--with I would hope some credits transferring.  At any rate, I don't think her acceptance to medical school here is a given, and even then, it's going to take several years for her to earn the right to practice.

And I think she'd be just as happy to have Alessandro go back home with his grandparents and auntie.  If she has any maternal feelings at all, she'll keep that kid out of Eric's clutches.  Not to mention the filthy environment.

 

9 hours ago, Palomar said:

If Leida really wants to go to medical school in the US she will definitely have to "let" her rich family pay for it.  Really, there is nothing wrong with that if they are willing.  To expect her future husband to pay for that is laughable as she must have realized the moment she walked into that apartment.  To not make sure the place was at least clean and welcoming (no matter how small it is) is just wrong.  Is he that clueless?

Why do these Americans pretend they are rich or let their "fiancees" assume they are. Reality is always going to be a bitch or do they think they will already be in love with them by the time they make it to the USA and see their new reality?

I want to see her parents pay for everything. I don't know Why. Lol.

I just want to see Eric's reaction if her family just gave them the $$$.

Do you think Leida will get pregnant with Eric?

Edited November 15, 2018 by Indomie
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[doyouevengohere]

8 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Olga DID scheme to get an American life! She applied to come here and work.  Like left Russia and came to USA alone. I think that is more than proof of someone who is very interested in American life, or at the very least leaving Russia.

 

You see a lot of Russian and Eastern European young beautiful girls working abroad.  The Gulf, Middle East. Especially, Dubai.   They get hire for office and hospitality work.  Also, on cruise ships. Flight attendants.  A lot of European girls that work budget Euro airlines their goal is to work for bigger luxury airlines like Emirates, Qatar, etc. I knew so many Euro girls working at Emirates.  This is their main motivator for learning English. 

 

There is internet with everything you have ever wanted to know along with free porn next to those international  job listings.  Let me tell yah....kids in orphanages grow up very fast.  This is the reason she is pregnant so irresponsibly. Getting pregnant is the oldest trick in the book! 

 

So far, I agree.  She has a cute personality. She is beautiful.  Not so much drama with her.

 

Lastly, nobody this season wants to be a MODEL....even though Olga and Fernanda are very pretty. Larissa hasn’t hit us with the ‘modeling career’ either.  Very refreshing, indeed.  

 

We actually have someone that wants to be a doctor! Which is pretty cool.

I really don't see that as scheming ; I've known several international students that come here to work summers and they wanted to travel and were curious of American life. And they can make more money over here.  It doesn't mean they make a plan to stay here at all costs.  There are some that probably do; but again Olga does not strike me as such.  We will have to agree to disagree, because Olga does not come across as someone who planned to get pregnant in order to come to america on a K1 visa; unless she is a great actress.  If it were her plan then she should have picked someone to be more sure of than Steven- older and more established and with more than 2 pennies to rub together.  He's kind of a lousy mark and the majority of 20 something fellow resort worker guys would not insist on marrying a girl and bringing her and the baby over; they would be gone.  I doubt she would have known that he would do something like that based on just a summer of sex together.

On the flip side, i have known plenty of American students that work overseas for the summer; to see a bit of the world on the cheap while working, to be away from family (freedom), or they have religious reasons.

 

And Ledia doesn't really want to be a doctor; she wants everyone to know how smart she is that she is a doctor and could be one here.  Her dad is pushing her to be a doctor here; probably so he can stop financing her and her mistakes and rages.  Ledia wants to be famous as anything but a doctor- model , cosplayer, internet rageaholic , someone who goes viral.

Edited November 15, 2018 by doyouevengohere

[doyouevengohere]

2 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Amy is the S. African girl?  

 

Amy and Kirlyam both married Mormons.  Let’s see, Kalani is Mormon.  Did the Russian single mom marry a Mormon? The party girl that gave birth to the biracial baby married a Mormon, too.  Someone explain that???  (I am kinda glad because the little girl is beautiful).

 

Who else is Mormon on 90 Days?

Amy and her husband were not Mormon.  I think he was Baptist?  They were evangelical protestant.  They met in Australia when they were both attending a Bible College course.  There's bound to be several Mormons on this show because the young men do their missions abroad and then meet young Mormon girls hoping to get married.  Allah wasn't Mormon I don't think.  Kalani just happens to be Mormon, but was not in Samoa for any religious reasons ; she is really on this show because she loves the attention and needs the money probably.

Edited November 15, 2018 by doyouevengohere

[Indomie]

2 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Olga DID scheme to get an American life! She applied to come here and work.  Like left Russia and came to USA alone. I think that is more than proof of someone who is very interested in American life, or at the very least leaving Russia.

 

You see a lot of Russian and Eastern European young beautiful girls working abroad.  The Gulf, Middle East. Especially, Dubai.   They get hire for office and hospitality work.  Also, on cruise ships. Flight attendants.  A lot of European girls that work budget Euro airlines their goal is to work for bigger luxury airlines like Emirates, Qatar, etc. I knew so many Euro girls working at Emirates.  This is their main motivator for learning English. 

 

There is internet with everything you have ever wanted to know along with free porn next to those international  job listings.  Let me tell yah....kids in orphanages grow up very fast.  This is the reason she is pregnant so irresponsibly. Getting pregnant is the oldest trick in the book! 

 

So far, I agree.  She has a cute personality. She is beautiful.  Not so much drama with her.

 

Lastly, nobody this season wants to be a MODEL....even though Olga and Fernanda are very pretty. Larissa hasn’t hit us with the ‘modeling career’ either.  Very refreshing, indeed.  

 

We actually have someone that wants to be a doctor! Which is pretty cool.

I think Leida is the only person  who wants to be a model.

She's female Jesse.

21 minutes ago, doyouevengohere said:

I really don't see that as scheming ; I've known several international students that come here to work summers and they wanted to travel and were curious of American life.  It doesn't mean they make a plan to stay here at all costs.  There are some that probably do; but again Olga does not strike me as such.  We will have to agree to disagree, because Olga does not come across as someone who planned to get pregnant in order to come to america on a K1 visa; unless she is a great actress.  If it were her plan then she should have picked someone to be more sure of than Steven- older and more established and with more than 2 pennies to rub together.  He's kind of a lousy mark and the majority of 20 something fellow resort worker guys would not insist on marrying a girl and bringing her and the baby over.  I doubt she would have known that he would do something like that based on just a summer of sex together.

Olga isn't like that. Olga is probably the only honest K1 participant this season. I like her and o hope they stay together long term.

I agree if Olga just wanted a green card she would pick someone older with more money. Not Steven!!

Edited November 15, 2018 by Indomie

[CSS.MD]

1 hour ago, doyouevengohere said:

I really don't see that as scheming ; I've known several international students that come here to work summers and they wanted to travel and were curious of American life.  It doesn't mean they make a plan to stay here at all costs.  There are some that probably do; but again Olga does not strike me as such.  We will have to agree to disagree, because Olga does not come across as someone who planned to get pregnant in order to come to america on a K1 visa; unless she is a great actress.  If it were her plan then she should have picked someone to be more sure of than Steven- older and more established and with more than 2 pennies to rub together.  He's kind of a lousy mark and the majority of 20 something fellow resort worker guys would not insist on marrying a girl and bringing her and the baby over; they would be gone.  I doubt she would have known that he would do something like that based on just a summer of sex together.

 

And Ledia doesn't really want to be a doctor; she wants everyone to know how smart she is that she is a doctor and could be one here.  Her dad is pushing her to be a doctor here; probably so he can stop financing her and her mistakes and rages.  Ledia wants to be famous as anything but a doctor- model , cosplayer, internet rageaholic , someone who goes viral.

 

THANK YOU. I’m usually the first person to side-eye “accidental pregnancies” (and I side-eye HARD). ?

But I don’t get those vibes from Olga/Steven at all. ?✨

And, yes, not every person from a less-developed country (although I don’t think Russia counts as a developing country at all) ever who travels to a more developed country is “scheming” to stay for a better life, for God’s sakes.

Although I’m not going to lie: I really liked it in Japan. Like, a LOT. But I wouldn’t just randomly go on a hunt for Japanese men I don’t really care for to marry just so I can move there! ??‍♀️?

Edited November 15, 2018 by CSS.MD
Can’t forget the side-eye emoji!

[onatrek]

5 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Amy is the S. African girl?  

 

Amy and Kirlyam both married Mormons.  Let’s see, Kalani is Mormon.  Did the Russian single mom marry a Mormon? The party girl that gave birth to the biracial baby married a Mormon, too.  Someone explain that???  (I am kinda glad because the little girl is beautiful).

 

Who else is Mormon on 90 Days?

As someone else said, Amy and Danny aren't Mormon.

Josh and Aleksandra were also Mormons though and also met when he was on his mission. (They are the ones with a baby that there has been much discussion about). She is Russian but they met when he was serving his mission in Prague.  She is not, however, the single mom from Russian you were asking about I don't think (that was Alla who had the older son) as Aleksandra didn't have the baby until after she and Josh were married.

And Kalani is no longer Mormon. She left years ago.

[minamreeka]

6 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Olga DID scheme to get an American life! She applied to come here and work.  Like left Russia and came to USA alone. I think that is more than proof of someone who is very interested in American life, or at the very least leaving Russia.

 

You see a lot of Russian and Eastern European young beautiful girls working abroad.  The Gulf, Middle East. Especially, Dubai.   They get hire for office and hospitality work.  Also, on cruise ships. Flight attendants.  A lot of European girls that work budget Euro airlines their goal is to work for bigger luxury airlines like Emirates, Qatar, etc. I knew so many Euro girls working at Emirates.  This is their main motivator for learning English. 

 

There is internet with everything you have ever wanted to know along with free porn next to those international  job listings.  Let me tell yah....kids in orphanages grow up very fast.  This is the reason she is pregnant so irresponsibly. Getting pregnant is the oldest trick in the book! 

 

So far, I agree.  She has a cute personality. She is beautiful.  Not so much drama with her.

 

Lastly, nobody this season wants to be a MODEL....even though Olga and Fernanda are very pretty. Larissa hasn’t hit us with the ‘modeling career’ either.  Very refreshing, indeed.  

 

We actually have someone that wants to be a doctor! Which is pretty cool.

It's not Olga's fault she was in an orphanage.  She's probably been through more than any of us can ever imagine.  Even if, and this is generous, it's true that Olga's background put her on a path to getting pregnant young then she shouldn't be shamed for it.

Saying she got pregnant to "trap" a man really makes it sound like this was a scheme she had and that she is 100% at fault for getting pregnant.  In reality it was 2 people who either didn't use birth control or had it fail.  It happens all the time.

I'm really rooting for these two and I hope the best for them.

[Kellyee]

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Olga DID scheme to get an American life! She applied to come here and work.  Like left Russia and came to USA alone. I think that is more than proof of someone who is very interested in American life, or at the very least leaving Russia.

 

You see a lot of Russian and Eastern European young beautiful girls working abroad.  The Gulf, Middle East. Especially, Dubai.   They get hire for office and hospitality work.  Also, on cruise ships. Flight attendants.  A lot of European girls that work budget Euro airlines their goal is to work for bigger luxury airlines like Emirates, Qatar, etc. I knew so many Euro girls working at Emirates.  This is their main motivator for learning English. 

 

There is internet with everything you have ever wanted to know along with free porn next to those international  job listings.  Let me tell yah....kids in orphanages grow up very fast.  This is the reason she is pregnant so irresponsibly. Getting pregnant is the oldest trick in the book! 

If the international fiances this season are in it for the money, then the joke is on them. Except for Fernanda, every single one of them appears to have chosen someone of very limited means. 

And so what if someone is trying to work their way to a better life? Isn't that what we're all doing? The Americans on this show are in it because they want someone younger and hotter than they can get in America. They are mostly broke, overweight, nerdy, high school dropouts with no skills and criminal histories, and/or living with the Mom from Hell. They're scheming just as badly as their international fiances. And it appears this season that several of them are pretty serious liars, especially Colt and Eric. If I was going to be mean, I would flat out accuse them of seeking mail-order relationships. If the marriages don't work out and they end on on the hook to financially support these people, I have no sympathy.

Fernanda and Olga appear to be sincere. I hope they end up okay, no matter how the relationship goes.

Edited November 15, 2018 by Kellyee

[Baltimore Betty]

About 15 years ago there was an influx of young Russian speaking people that came to Ocean City MD and worked their butts off.  I had a waiter at a crab house, we stayed until 11pm, got up early the next day for breakfast at a different restaurant, (Dough Roller, yum French toast) and we had the same waiter, he told us it the norm with him and his friends to work day and night...they work hard, multiple jobs and bank a lot more money than they could have made at home.  Unfortunately, Olga came here, worked hard and got pregnant and unfortunately she got pregnant by an under employed, broke not so smart guy.  At least we know she won't be laying in bed all day playing on her phone and whining, the girl has hustle and has no problem getting her hands dirty.  Steven will have a hard time keeping up with her.

14 minutes ago, Kellyee said:

Fernanda and Olga appear to be sincere. I hope they end up okay, no matter how the relationship goes.

They will be fine and probably find better guys than the original Americans they have now.

[CSS.MD]

8 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

About 15 years ago there was an influx of young Russian speaking people that came to Ocean City MD and worked their butts off.  I had a waiter at a crab house, we stayed until 11pm, got up early the next day for breakfast at a different restaurant, (Dough Roller, yum French toast) and we had the same waiter, he told us it the norm with him and his friends to work day and night...they work hard, multiple jobs and bank a lot more money than they could have made at home.  Unfortunately, Olga came here, worked hard and got pregnant and unfortunately she got pregnant by an under employed, broke not so smart guy.  At least we know she won't be laying in bed all day playing on her phone and whining, the girl has hustle and has no problem getting her hands dirty.  Steven will have a hard time keeping up with her.

If she comes to the US, do you think her Russian credits will be transferable to an American university?

If I were her and I had to start all over again from freshman year, I’d be royally PISSED!

ETA: I know that’s probably not a priority right now, but I’m just curious?

Edited November 15, 2018 by CSS.MD
ETA?

[Baltimore Betty]

1 minute ago, CSS.MD said:

If she comes to the US, do you think her Russian credits will be transferable to an American university?

If I were her and I had to start all over again from freshman year, I’d be royally PISSED!

My ex was a lawyer (now a judge) and he had a lot of Russian clients, many with high levels of medical training but had to get re-certified once here in the US, so there is a good chance that she would have to start over.  There has to be some sort of allowances for students that have done the course work in another country, right?

[CSS.MD]

1 minute ago, Baltimore Betty said:

My ex was a lawyer (now a judge) and he had a lot of Russian clients, many with high levels of medical training but had to get re-certified once here in the US, so there is a good chance that she would have to start over.  There has to be some sort of allowances for students that have done the course work in another country, right?

Aw, that sucks so much.

In Indonesia sometimes they make you take an extra prep year (like a 13th grade) before doing a bachelor’s abroad for certain countries. Or in certain programmes, they might make non-EU students take extra classes on EU subjects, so that they’re on the same page once they’re mixed into classes with EU students.

[Baltimore Betty]

3 minutes ago, CSS.MD said:

Aw, that sucks so much.

In Indonesia sometimes they make you take an extra prep year (like a 13th grade) before doing a bachelor’s abroad for certain countries. Or in certain programmes, they might make non-EU students take extra classes on EU subjects, so that they’re on the same page once they’re mixed into classes with EU students.

Olga may have more desire to better herself in the US than Steven, who has the opportunity with no issues such as visa's!

[Raja]

8 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Amy is the S. African girl?  

 

Amy and Kirlyam both married Mormons.  Let’s see, Kalani is Mormon.  Did the Russian single mom marry a Mormon? The party girl that gave birth to the biracial baby married a Mormon, too.  Someone explain that???  (I am kinda glad because the little girl is beautiful).

 

Who else is Mormon on 90 Days?

 Of the publicly religious on the show we started with the first season's Mormon Kirlyam who it seems was converted with her family as a child  by her husband while he was on a mission. And then he waited for her to come of age when he claimed his prize. The white and coloured  (to use the South African term) evangelical couple Amy, who took pains to tell us they did not do the deed and she was staying with his racist family members until the wedding. A second prize claiming Mormon missionary couple Aleksandra who like the evangelicals went on about doing it God's way only to have us speculate that his wife gave a goodbye fuck to an old boyfriend and had his baby. A couple of Muslim men trying to hold of having public sex life talk without marriage to an unchaste woman of the book. And now we have Kalani with the mention of the ex faith, maybe to justify why she was still a virgin in her late 20's.

Edited November 15, 2018 by Raja

[PamelaMaeSnap]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

About 15 years ago there was an influx of young Russian speaking people that came to Ocean City MD and worked their butts off. 

Totally this and thank you for posting it ... we've spent almost every summer with at least one short trip out to the coast (usually Bethany but we get around to RB, Dewey, etc. to eat) ... we've always noticed that there was a huge number of young Russian women (maybe guys too but we noticed mainly the young women for some reason) working at the restaurants and stores. Assumed there was some sort of exchange program or SOMETHING involved but I never actually did any homework on it. 

Maybe, just like certain immigrant populations are sent to certain areas (for example, a lot of Somalians in Minnesota and Arizona), for whatever reason there is a deal in place for the DelMar beach towns to hire seasonal employees through specific Russian agencies and have the paperwork set to go?

[sasha206]

10 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Olga DID scheme to get an American life! She applied to come here and work.  Like left Russia and came to USA alone. I think that is more than proof of someone who is very interested in American life, or at the very least leaving Russia.

I don't think a Russian working a seasonal job = "scheming to get an American life."  I might agree with you if she hooked up with a Colt-looking guy that she clearly had no interest in.  Seems to me, she came to work a seasonal job and fell for the slacker server, had unprotected sex, got pregnant.  She may very well want a life here and wanted one when she applied, but she doesn't strike me as an Anifsa type that wanted the rich American to take care of her and then was disappointed when that rich American "frauded" her.

[Kangatush]

3 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

My ex was a lawyer (now a judge) and he had a lot of Russian clients, many with high levels of medical training but had to get re-certified once here in the US, so there is a good chance that she would have to start over.  There has to be some sort of allowances for students that have done the course work in another country, right?

It all depends on where you're from and how deep into your education you are.  The more "developed" your country, the more likely you'll get at least partial credit here.  

[funky-rat]

1 hour ago, PamelaMaeSnap said:

Maybe, just like certain immigrant populations are sent to certain areas (for example, a lot of Somalians in Minnesota and Arizona), for whatever reason there is a deal in place for the DelMar beach towns to hire seasonal employees through specific Russian agencies and have the paperwork set to go?

Possibly.  I saw a documentary about the making of Caddyshack, and Brian Doyle Murray said that all of the local country clubs in Chicago hired from an agency that brought over summer workers from Ireland.

[ALittleShelfish]

1 hour ago, PamelaMaeSnap said:

Maybe, just like certain immigrant populations are sent to certain areas (for example, a lot of Somalians in Minnesota and Arizona), for whatever reason there is a deal in place for the DelMar beach towns to hire seasonal employees through specific Russian agencies and have the paperwork set to go?

My ex worked for Cedar Fair (specifically the Cedar Point location) in HR and they used to make annual recruiting trips overseas for their international staff.  They found the overseas workers to be much better employees (despite occasionally wandering out to the parking lot to sell their own free park passes to guests before they hit the box office, huge no-no, but hey they tried!) and didn't gripe about the long hours because they needed the money and the experience.  He said they've had a harder time filling those roles lately, but did'nt have any solid explanations why.  

I'd bet that's how Olga got a gig over here - they make it pretty appealing, they find cheap dorm-like housing for the staff.  

I sure hope Steven does right by her.  

[eatsleep]

4 hours ago, CSS.MD said:

If she comes to the US, do you think her Russian credits will be transferable to an American university?

If I were her and I had to start all over again from freshman year, I’d be royally PISSED!

ETA: I know that’s probably not a priority right now, but I’m just curious?

I worked in the registrar's office of a large university years ago and we developed "transfer credit articulation" software to organize all this. But if credits were obtained from a foreign (non Eng) school, detailed course descriptions would have to be requested, translated to Eng and evaluated by the academic advising staff. Sometimes yes, sometimes no, sometimes partial credit was articulated.

[Owwwww ma leg]

All of my Australian credits transferred, except some were listed as “electives”. Depends on the University and state licensing.

[Mothra]

17 hours ago, iwasish said:

True, but I did not get the impression that Larissa wanted Colts approval regarding style. She wanted to be in charge. And if she had wanted Colts approval she and Debbie could have come to agreement on a selection of a couches they both find acceptable and let him make the final choice.

As more background is revealed on each couple, my opinion of their behavior and motivations changes. 

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but Larissa didn't say "Coltie said I could buy anything I wanted as long as he approved it;"  she said he told her she could buy anything she wanted as long as Debbie was with her.  I don't think her "wanting to be in charge"--although I'm sure she did--had anything to do with expecting that she would be allowed to choose the couch.  "We didn't buy a couch because we thought you would want to pick it out," and "You can decorate the house any way you want."  We didn't hear "Coltie gets final word on which couch we buy."

It's not that I think having everyone's input on the new couch isn't important.  Ideally they'd do what you suggest:  let Larissa pick several out and then decide *together* which one to buy.  I don't even think Larissa should be allowed to choose the couch all by herself--but that's what they told her she could do, and having that privilege yanked out from under her is dirty pool, sez I.  If Debbie truly wants to be friends with Larissa, she could have suggested they look at more couches and then bring Coltie to see them, but she didn't.  And she smirked at Debbie when she ratted her out.  I think Larissa was mistreated in this episode.

[DownWithTheShine]

Any couch is better than the couch they currently have. If Deb wanted to decide which couch they got she should have bought it before Larissa came and Colty told her she could pick one out.  It's just a couch, if Deb doesn't like what Larissa picks she can continue to sit in the kitchen or go to her room.  

[OldButHappy]

14 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Olga DID scheme to get an American life! She applied to come here and work.  Like left Russia and came to USA alone. I think that is more than proof of someone who is very interested in American life, or at the very least leaving Russia.

 

You see a lot of Russian and Eastern European young beautiful girls working abroad.  The Gulf, Middle East. Especially, Dubai.   They get hire for office and hospitality work.  Also, on cruise ships. Flight attendants.  A lot of European girls that work budget Euro airlines their goal is to work for bigger luxury airlines like Emirates, Qatar, etc. I knew so many Euro girls working at Emirates.  This is their main motivator for learning English. 

 

There is internet with everything you have ever wanted to know along with free porn next to those international  job listings.  Let me tell yah....kids in orphanages grow up very fast.  This is the reason she is pregnant so irresponsibly. Getting pregnant is the oldest trick in the book! 

Hmmmm....interesting to hear an insider's opinion.  I am personally unfamiliar with this world.  

I know women who got pregnant young and unexpectedly.  It happened because they were young, amorous, and careless. I'm not exaggerating when I write that personally, in real life, I have never known any woman who tricked a man into pregnancy.  

The word "scheme", with it's implication of planned manipulation, doesn't describe Olga's experience, to me.  I can imagine her wanting to see the U.S. and wondering what life here would be like... or wondering what dating an American guy is like...but I don't think that getting pregnant with her U.S. boyfriend's baby before retuning to Russia was part of a Master Plan.  

But who knows - it's pure speculation, based on what the editors have shown us so far.

(ETA:  I wrote this post before reading the posts/responses on this page..looks like my reaction to the word "scheme" was shared by others!)

Edited November 15, 2018 by OldButHappy

[monagatuna]

7 hours ago, minamreeka said:

It's not Olga's fault she was in an orphanage.  She's probably been through more than any of us can ever imagine.  Even if, and this is generous, it's true that Olga's background put her on a path to getting pregnant young then she shouldn't be shamed for it.

Saying she got pregnant to "trap" a man really makes it sound like this was a scheme she had and that she is 100% at fault for getting pregnant.  In reality it was 2 people who either didn't use birth control or had it fail.  It happens all the time.

I'm really rooting for these two and I hope the best for them.

I agree. Where I live there's always a huge proportion of people on a number of different kinds of visas, and it goes both ways. Americans go do a summer or year abroad in some other country. Sometimes it's even places like *gasp* Russia! My close friend's visa expired and he had to go back to *oh no!* France! Then he ended up in *scary voice* Iceland! 

This is the only time I'll agree with Kalani's dad--the milk is expensive and the honey's not so sweet in the U.S., and while people sometimes think everyone wants to escape their homeland and live in the U.S., that's not always true. I have dozens of friends who are off to other countries for excitement and adventure, and I don't blame Olga for doing the same. Besides, it's possible that the money she earned during her stint in the U.S. would probably go farther in her homeland.

I'm sure Olga has it hard, but I don't see her conniving her way into an "anchor baby." If she is savvy enough to do that, she is savvy enough to know that parents of "anchor babies" have been deported, and our current administration is trying like hell to make first-generation Americans eligible for deportation as well. I've known plenty of Russians who had to leave the US upon visa expiration as well as people from plenty of other countries. Just happening to get impregnated by an American doesn't mean you're fishing for a visa. I really do think they care for each other, and I do think they both want the best for their little family. I really hope it works out for them.

[Lily247]

I honestly dont think that whatever Olga is studying will transfer over to the US, unless it is some specific trade. I commend Steven for flying over to do anything he can to help her. I hope however that he will find full time employment once he gets back to the US to support his wife and baby, and that his grandparents will help out. Then I could see them having a happy life here. Olga is not at all like Anfisa, both seem kind of broken inside however. Anfisa was cold as a block of ice. 

[Ijustwantsomechips]

16 hours ago, PityFree said:

 You will be charmed by her and you will also love her wedding dress that had pockets!!! Pockets!

Amy’s whole family was great.

Kirlyam’s husband Allan is a dork, but a lovable dork. His parents seemed kind as well.

[Ijustwantsomechips]

7 hours ago, Kellyee said:

They're scheming just as badly as their international fiances.

Thank you!!!!!  I’Colt and Eric oare some of the most deceptive, pathetic liars I’ve ever seen.  Who are they to lie and manipulate a person to get what they want knowing full well they can’t fulfill those promises? 

Not everyone desires to come to the US because, and this will be a startling illumination for some, America kind of sucks, especially for people of color! It’s not the worst place to live, and it has its advantages, but it’s got plenty of shitty things about it to.  

[Spike]

4 hours ago, funky-rat said:

Possibly.  I saw a documentary about the making of Caddyshack, and Brian Doyle Murray said that all of the local country clubs in Chicago hired from an agency that brought over summer workers from Ireland.

A lot of the bars and restaurants in Chicago hire Irish college kids to work summers.  

[Lesia]

Would YOU want Leida as your physician?

[Dance4Life]

2 hours ago, OldButHappy said:

 

(ETA:  I wrote this post before reading the posts/responses on this page..looks like my reaction to the word "scheme" was shared by others!)

Hahahahahah!  I know!  I can’t reply to everyone because that is just clogging up the thread.  I will add, NOTED!

Hopefully, didn’t offend anyone using the word scheming.

 

I just replied above why I use the word scheme! Personally, a girl (from any country, not just Olga) having sex knows she can get pregnant. If you are not actively preventing pregnancy.  Then you are Ok with a pregnancy from ANY man. This is scary considering a child is involved.

 

Olga is just so calm with this pregnancy.  Let us find out this is not even her first one!  

 

She had the ability to get a US work visa which is good.  She should have applied with Emirates instead of getting stuck in a young marriage. Something like that is one of the better ways to be young, free and see the world! 

 

That is the thing too.  If she wants to stay in America, give baby father, she has to get married. It is not normal to get marry in 90 Days!