JD and Abbie: Captured Before the Rapture

[libgirl2]

31 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

What would you consider to be acceptable nourishment for them? Hardtack and water? Or no food or drink at all?

Of course they need to eat, but there is a difference between eating for nourishment and stuffing your face on goodies. Simple sandwiches and cans of pop are fine. Remember when they got chick fil a flown in? 

[Dehumidifier]

7 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

Of course they need to eat, but there is a difference between eating for nourishment and stuffing your face on goodies. Simple sandwiches and cans of pop are fine. Remember when they got chick fil a flown in? 

If they were eating that the comments would be that they are eating junk and couldn't possibly be getting enough energy to work from sugary drinks and processed meats. 

[libgirl2]

6 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

If they were eating that the comments would be that they are eating junk and couldn't possibly be getting enough energy to work from sugary drinks and processed meats. 

I wouldn't say that. I would say they are there to help out. I had a friend, a doctor, go to Haiti after that last earthquake to help. You know what he ate? Whatever was there. He didn't fly stuff in for him and his buddies. 

Simple food, water (doesn't have to be pop)..... they are not there to be entertained. 

Edited October 7 by libgirl2

[Dehumidifier]

1 minute ago, libgirl2 said:

I wouldn't say that. I would say they are there to help out. I had a friend, a doctor, go to Haiti after that last earthquake to help. You know what he ate? Whatever was there. He didn't fly stuff in for him and his buddies. 

I'm sure their food is being locally sourced, so, no worries!

 

[GeeGolly]

I didn't see the interview...

Its just bad optics to be shown with any food or beverages during the aftermath of a devastating storm, other than maybe a bottle of water.

[crazy8s]

30 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

I'm sure their food is being locally sourced, so, no worries!

 

to state your own question how would you know?

My point was more along the lines of the medic corps usually showing they are at whatever site, where they have access to solid shelter, electricity, internet to post, able to score an interview or be pictured with a big name,  and have lots of food, maybe or maybe not available to regular volunteers. While claiming "we are doing this or that"and showing another entity entirely doing this or that, while lawson, with his perfect hair, takes video showing people who are devastated.

Edited October 7 by crazy8s

[AstridM]

6 hours ago, auntieminem said:

Medic corp is getting attention from the relief efforts from Helene.  Musk, Ivanka, and now Dr. Phil  interviewing JD.🙄  Though this time it appears they may actually be helping some and working with Samaritans Purse (the Graham charity) .  They were helping get starlink access for communications and taking generators in to isolated areas that have no power.  They are doing a lot with helicopters, did they get more or do they belong to someone else.  Anyhow  they are taking in supplies to places that are no longer accessible by road.  I hope they are actually helping.  When did Musk become a humanitarian?  Now he and Ivanka are pretending to care. JD was the only Duggar I saw (I didn't look at all their posts about the effort so maybe there are other Dugs).  I don't know much about the Bates but saw a couple of them. 

I am glad resources but the whole Ivanka and Musk thing makes my eyes roll.  As I don't recall them ever showing up to help at other disasters.   Hey at least people are being helped so the motivation doesn't matter. 

I don’t believe much of this 

1 hour ago, crazy8s said:

What are other volunteers not being interviewed by dr phil or in pics with Ivanka or elon musk connection eating today?

Because those doing the real work are too busy to beg for attention.

1 hour ago, Dehumidifier said:

If they were eating that the comments would be that they are eating junk and couldn't possibly be getting enough energy to work from sugary drinks and processed meats. 

This is a strawman argument . It’s not fair to try and put words into others’ mouths, imho. 

[Meow Mix]

My experience is that most of the volunteers are too busy doing the work to stop to pose for photo ops with famous people or to give interviews to the various television shows.  For example, Greg Biffle was flying his personal helicopter for days before he was briefly interviewed, then he went right back to work.  He talked about a guy who signaled him with a mirror, but he didn't stick a camera in his face and exploit him.

As for food, I don't care what anyone there eats as long as they get something.  Usually organizations like the Red Cross set up kitchens to feed the volunteers as well as people stuck in the disaster zone.  Maybe places like Chic Fil A and Sbux donate stuff, but most people eat whatever is there, they don't get stuff brought in especially for them.  

At least with this being in the US, JD and crew can't show up with fake law enforcement badges and bully other aid workers like they did in the Bahamas.  While they are still doing the usual posing, I think they have had to actually do some work as well.  The situation in NC and Tennessee is desperate and I am sure even a poser like Lawson Bates can be of some use.

[EmeraldGirl]

This is the one time I actually don’t have anything to criticize. I saw the video of oh so vain Lawson carrying that old woman to the helicopter. She seemed happy, her family was relieved. I don’t have a problem 

I guess talking to Dr. Phil was a way that John David thought he could get attention out there. And that’s actually not a bad idea. I do think they are really helping. I don’t care what food they get. Has Jose Andres shown up yet? His World central kitchen is very very important. They are on any disaster area within days if not hours. It’s very important to donate to them, I do it all the time.

[BOOgen3]

Chef Andres and his World Central Kitchen have been set up in Asheville for at least the past 6 days working out of the facilities of Bear’s Smokehouse (proud to have a fellow Nutmegger joining Chef in his fantastic work)

[realityfan26]

It  appears that JD & the crew are helping. I hope they weren’t part of the initial problem of near miss air collisions.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/helene-relief-efforts-about-30-mid-air-close-calls-over-north-carolina-single-day/

[GeeGolly]

There are so many folks stuck it remote places in NC. I think its great MedicCrap is there with their helicopters and are actually being helpful.

As someone who lived through a severe weather event, like I said in a previous post, optics matter. I went from sipping coffee and chatting on FB to homeless in a matter of minutes. Even a week later when I was back at work I was sensitive to what I saw and heard. We lost just about everything we owned, including our house, so everyday typical stuff folks do and say felt so ridiculously superficial and at times insensitive. 

My heart breaks for these folks who are living through this now. The physical and emotional toll is heavy and it can last for days, months, years and even lifetimes.

Giving kudos to JD isn't mutually exclusive to calling him out on insensitive behavior.

Edited October 8 by GeeGolly

[Zella]

On 10/7/2024 at 10:44 AM, auntieminem said:

When did Musk become a humanitarian?

If this is in reference to Starlink, my understanding is people are just being set up with the standard free 30 days before they have to start paying and the equipment is also still not free. So, these people getting Starlink are still paying out of pocket for the equipment and will have to pay for the regular subscription after a month. That's not an option for a lot of people. 

For that reason, I'm not really sure I'd call him a humanitarian, especially seeing a lot of these infrastructure issues are likely to last for far longer. I think he smelled a business opportunity and figured the PR would not delve to deeply into the details. 

Edited October 9 by Zella

[auntieminem]

5 hours ago, Zella said:

For that reason, I'm not really sure I'd call him a humanitarian, especially seeing a lot of these infrastructure issues are likely to last for far longer. I think he smelled a business opportunity and figured the PR would not delve to deeply into the details. 

Yeah, I was not being sincere using that term.  I figured there had to be something in it for him, though I was just thinking it was the positive attention.  I didn't know that he would be benefiting from it so soon. But of course he is. 

[Zella]

28 minutes ago, auntieminem said:

Yeah, I was not being sincere using that term.  I figured there had to be something in it for him, though I was just thinking it was the positive attention.  I didn't know that he would be benefiting from it so soon. But of course he is. 

Yeah and maybe they'll end up extending the amount of time it is free, which would be nice, but they're still getting over $300 for the equipment for each unit they sell. 

[Future Cat Lady]

Musk and Ivanka are there for political and opportunistic reasons.

[AstridM]

3 hours ago, auntieminem said:

Yeah, I was not being sincere using that term.  I figured there had to be something in it for him, though I was just thinking it was the positive attention.  I didn't know that he would be benefiting from it so soon. But of course he is. 

Massive tax write off, as well 🤬

[Madtown]

They are just the most adorable!

 

[CalicoKitty]

They seem to be such truly happy children.  And clean and neat.  I love his cowboy boots.

[libgirl2]

8 hours ago, CalicoKitty said:

They seem to be such truly happy children.  And clean and neat.  I love his cowboy boots.

Compare them to the poor Rod kids. 

[andromeda331]

They are always so cute and so happy.