"The View": Week Of 6/11/2018

[blondiec0332]

22 minutes ago, backformore said:

She toasts to freedom, but says athletes MUST stand for the anthem, and MUST  go to the white house if asked.  Does she understand what "freedom " means?

She understands what it means to her.  She doesn't care about anyone else's freedom.  As evidenced by her support of what Jeff Sessions is doing.

 

I'm surprised she was friendly to Vanessa Kirby since she is British.  I'm sure she will go home and apologize to her paintings of our forefathers for not continuing the fight against England.

 

And it was ironic when she said lets celebrate our flag and all it stands for after endorsing Session's harsh stance against immigrants coming here to escape violence.

Edited June 14, 2018 by blondiec0332

[Tammee]

1 hour ago, TheGreenKnight said:

Go Sunny! Finally someone refuses to let Meh-gun put words in their mouth.

I love the way Sunny says 'confefey' heeeheeheee

[Apprentice79]

3 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

Kudos to all the ladies for keeping Meh-gun from controlling the narrative during the immigration discussion. McCain said Trump was implementing the kind of reform he ran on barely a minute after Joy pointed out that he ran on targeting criminals, not separating mothers from their children or blocking people seeking asylum. I loved that the camera panned to Joy's reaction at that lie.

The best moment after the half-hour mark was the audience borderline booing over the idea President Kim Kardashian. We've sunken so far.

Not to mention, she got defensive when Joy questioned her position on Immigration.  She wants to lecture like she is a college professor and we are supposed to listen to her with bated breadth. I despise her more and more with each passing day. I don't understand how she can defend 45, after the way that he humiliated her father.  

Edited June 14, 2018 by Apprentice79

[blondiec0332]

2 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

I don't understand how she can defend 45, after the way that he humiliated her father.  

Pretty sure someone other than her father now has a greater influence over her.

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

Go Sunny! Finally someone refuses to let Meh-gun put words in their mouth.

What did she say????

[Orillia]

1 hour ago, WhitneyWhit said:

The longer MM is on this show, the closer we are to opening it with the pledge of allegiance.

And after that they'll be changing the View theme song to the Star Spangled Banner.

[WhitneyWhit]

2 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

What did she say????

They were discussing 45 ignoring North Korea's human rights violation and Sunny pointed out that he doesn't care about violations that happen in his own country, why would we expect him to care about North Korea's. MM jumped up and said Sonny was comparing the US to NK and Sunny said no, she didn't say that, in fact, she said she knows you can't compare the two, she's just making a point, and pointed out that MM said that's what she said, not what she actually said.

[TV Diva Queen]

28 minutes ago, Tammee said:

I love the way Sunny says 'confefey' heeeheeheee

YES! and they way she does the Pardon Superpower with her hands.  

[cecelia45]

I missed the show today, so who in the world brought up the idea of Kim Kardasihan as president???? Did they mean president of the Kanye West fan club? Surely they didn't mean POTUS? Please, tell me who, and how this ridiculous concept was started?!

[RHJunkie]

Meghan was incredibly frustrating to listen to today because a lot of her contributions in the discussion weren't even on topic with what the women were talking about.

She immediately misinterpreted Sunny's comments as likening human rights abuses in America to being equal to what is happening in North Korea when it was very clear that Sunny's point was about looking at the indifference Trump has shown toward injustices in his own country toward people he's supposed to represent and therefore unsurprising that he would overlook the atrocities of Kim Jung Un towards North Koreans.

And then the whole immigration conversation. They were talking about asylum seekers (it is legal to present yourself at the border as an asylum seeker) and the conversation was about the moral and legal aspect of turning people away with no justifiable reason. Meghan uses this to launch into a diatribe about needing strong borders in order to be a strong country...no one is talking about people who are smuggling themselves across the border illegally and with no intent of identifying themselves to border services. The conversation was about enacting legal options available to those who are trying to escape war, abuse from government, etc. How was anything you said relevant to the subject at hand? Meghan's personal position of being anti-immigration (and that's how I interpret her use of comprehensive border laws) is met with a side remark of 'but I don't condone children being ripped away from their parents' - that all reads to me like 'while I wouldn't personally rip a child from its mother, I'm okay with someone else doing it for the greater good.

[Apprentice79]

16 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

Meghan was incredibly frustrating to listen to today because a lot of her contributions in the discussion weren't even on topic with what the women were talking about.

She immediately misinterpreted Sunny's comments as likening human rights abuses in America to being equal to what is happening in North Korea when it was very clear that Sunny's point was about looking at the indifference Trump has shown toward injustices in his own country toward people he's supposed to represent and therefore unsurprising that he would overlook the atrocities of Kim Jung Un towards North Koreans.

And then the whole immigration conversation. They were talking about asylum seekers (it is legal to present yourself at the border as an asylum seeker) and the conversation was about the moral and legal aspect of turning people away with no justifiable reason. Meghan uses this to launch into a diatribe about needing strong borders in order to be a strong country...no one is talking about people who are smuggling themselves across the border illegally and with no intent of identifying themselves to border services. The conversation was about enacting legal options available to those who are trying to escape war, abuse from government, etc. How was anything you said relevant to the subject at hand? Meghan's personal position of being anti-immigration (and that's how I interpret her use of comprehensive border laws) is met with a side remark of 'but I don't condone children being ripped away from their parents' - that all reads to me like 'while I wouldn't personally rip a child from its mother, I'm okay with someone else doing it for the greater good.

Megan has no idea about the injustices that are being perpetuated on people around the world.   In her small mind, someone seeking asylum, is the same thing, as somebody, who overstayed their visa and is now classified as an illegal alien.  Asylum is very broad, it can be a woman fleeing genital mutilation in Africa, gang violence in Honduras, a country, that we helped destabilize, but, I digress. It could be a gay person fleeing death from a very conservative Christian or Islamic country.  It is very sad that we are now refusing people seeking asylum.  So, the next time, she criticizes 45, I will know that it is insincere. She became extremely agitated when the audience was applauding both Joy and Sunny.. 

Edited June 14, 2018 by Apprentice79

[backformore]

9 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

She immediately misinterpreted Sunny's comments as likening human rights abuses in America to being equal to what is happening in North Korea when it was very clear that Sunny's point was about looking at the indifference Trump has shown toward injustices in his own country toward people he's supposed to represent and therefore unsurprising that he would overlook the atrocities of Kim Jung Un towards North Koreans.

Yes.  I think that is the thing that is most infuriating about Meghan.   She was not listening to all that Sunny was saying, BUT she pounces on a snippet of the conversation, twists it around and inflates it to mean something different, and argues with THAT, instead of arguing with what Sunny actually said.   She often says a version of , "so you're saying that....(insert ridiculous exaggeration here)."   I have had people in my life who do that, and it is maddening. They try to trick you into defending a position you don't actually believe.  Meghan forgets - Sunny is a lawyer.   You can't trick her with that bullshit.  

I sometimes wonder if it's Meghan's husband who posts those videos on youtube that are titled "Meghan McCain DESTROYS Joy Behar"  and "Meghan McCain TAKES DOWN Sunny."  Because Meghan seems like she's trying hard for that "gotcha" moment that she can make go viral. 

[blondiec0332]

30 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

Meghan's personal position of being anti-immigration (and that's how I interpret her use of comprehensive border laws) is met with a side remark of 'but I don't condone children being ripped away from their parents' - that all reads to me like 'while I wouldn't personally rip a child from its mother, I'm okay with someone else doing it for the greater good.

She is showing herself to be a very mean uncaring person.

[athousandclowns]

I so agree about Jon Hamn he is delightful charming guy .  I had to back up the  DVR when Me gun said did you hear what I just said?! I thought she said something I didn't hear, it made no sense! The final mumble almost under her breath was about voting for someone just because she's a woman. Get over it bitch it'll happen and can only be an improvement  

she also is the only one who enters the set with a sour face before sitting down  what a miserable person  

She is so damn rude and disrespectful to Joy and it makes me stabby. You notice no one else has to read from their cards  during rants? 

[backformore]

And then when Whoopi cites the poem on the statue of liberty, after they all talk about people seeking asylum, and the one teen who was sent back and murdered.  Meghan, of course, DISAGREES with them all.  Because we need "strong borders."  Human rights violations are going on in our own country, but Meghan disagrees that it's a problem.  Her rapid-fire speech starts with "I disagree with most of what is being said here"  and ends with  agreeing that we should not separate children and parents (also saying it's not happening, which is pure bullshit), and then says she's just trying to give  a history of how we got here as a country.  WTF?   IS she agreeing, disagreeing, or giving a history lesson?  

  It's similar to the way she gives an opinion, then when confronted, she walks it back to say she's "explaining trump's base"  or "telling what they think in gun country."  Meghan, give us your stupid fucking opinion, or don't.  But OWN it.  No quotes from Ronald Reagan, no blue card statistics, just say what you think. 

[backformore]

there was a moment when Meghan was talking about "strong borders" that Sunny gave her a LOOK.  In my mind, the thought bubble above Sunny's head  was, "you are one racist motherfucker, aren't you?"  

Edited June 14, 2018 by backformore

[OnTime]

In case anyone missed it, Meghan is not a snowflake.

She said so today!!

[bannana]

Okay, Canadian here, and I somewhat pay attention to the US news (hah!).  But in the segment on granting asylum, I believe Elsa was not paying attention, because when she weighed in, she made no sense.  Here's what I heard:

Whoopi objects to the US not granting asylum to victims of domestic abuse, gang violence, and specifically mentioned genital mutilation.

Sara points out the hypocrisy of Trump's views on gangs and says that some people seeking asylum are the victims of those gangs.

Joy mentions the case of a teenager who was sent back to his country and was killed.

Joy says Trump campaigned on only going after those immigrants who broke the law.  She says this law was on the books under O and Bush but they didn't enforce it unless something horrible was happening.  She compares the Trump admin to Nazi Germany in their approach to asylum seekers, immigration.

Sunny says this is an affront to the rule of law, according to Immigration Lawyers.

Whoopi quotes the saying on the statue of Liberty.  Give me your tired, your poor; what ever happened to that, she says.  

Then Elsa gets her chance to weigh in.  She says:

I disagree with a lot of what everyone is saying.  

Joy: What do you disagree with?

Elsa:  I believe in comprehensive immigration reform, I always have. I believe in the idea that we are God's children, I believe in what you just read on the Statue of Liberty. I also believe that we are a nation of laws.

Reading from the blue card, Elsa quotes Reagan:  A nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation, according to Ronald Reagan.  There's a lot of us on the right who have really tried to bring comprehensive immigration reform into the forefront.

Joy, genuinely confused by what she is trying to say, asks if she believes this is comprehensive, what is going on.

Annoyed, because the answer is not on her blue card, Elsa snarks:  I am trying to explain the history of how we got to this point. 

Joy says she is asking her a question, about whether what Trump is doing is comprehensive.

Unable to answer, Elsa says:  What I am saying is what Trump ran on is what he is enforcing, and I think that when Jeff Sessions says this, you can’t be surprised that when you have a hardline, the most hardline immigration candidate of my lifetime, who runs on hardline immigration and the economy, and ends up winning, that this is what happens. It’s why voting is so important, and I think sometimes when we’re sitting in a beautiful studio in the middle of Manhattan, you forget what’s really happening at the border. I don’t believe in separating children from parents.

Wait, is she agreeing with the ladies after she just told them she disagrees with everything they said?

She tries to read again from her blue card:  Apparently, what they are saying...

Whoopi interrupts her and says that she doesn't believe in telling women who are coming seeking asylum that the US is not having them, saying that has never been their policy.  She says many of the families separated at the border under Trump policies were lawfully following the asylum process.

Flustered, but pretending to be a tough chick, Elsa huffs:  I know when I say this, by the way, like, I know that when I’m coming on here saying this, I know how unpopular it is.  I’m not a snowflake. I know what I am saying.  (Really?  Cause I don't, Elsa).  I know that no one in this room probably agrees with me, that nobody at this table probably agrees with me.

Agrees with what?  WTF are you saying Elsa???

Joy says:  I don't know what I am disagreeing with you about.

Elsa ignores Joy and says:  I am also from a border state, and I know that if we are not a nation of borders and laws, then we are not a nation.

Sigh.  Once again, who is disagreeing with that, and WTF are you saying, Elsa?

Whoopi seems done with this shit and says: We are a country of laws and the law has always been that asylum seekers would be welcome and taken each thing at a time, and to just blatantly say, we’re not going to do it seems very different to me.

Sunny says:  the law on the books is that domestic violence and gang violence are grounds for asylum, Jeff Sessions is now saying it is not grounds.

Elsa says, reading from her blue card:  The US border says, that if the parents are jailed, the children are separated because the children are not charged with a crime.  I don't agree with any of this, I am just trying to explain how we as a country got here.

Whoopi, fed up, says:  I think we all kind of get that part. I think what I specifically am talking about are people who are lawfully coming here, not people who are trying to bust into the country. I’m talking about people who are lawfully seeking asylum, that’s the difference for me.

Sara was trying desperately to get into the discussion but never got a chance.

Ultimately, we have no idea what Elsa was trying to say and what she disagreed with when she disagreed with everyone in the building.

 

Oh and Elsa is the host who got to mention the birthday of the US army and Flag Day, is that because she is the resident patriot?

[Onceafan]

Why even have Kelly Preston on today if for almost the entire interview the hosts fangirl over her husband, John Travolta. I thought Kelly was a trooper though but they kept bringing everything back to her husband. I would have liked to hear more about her.

[blondiec0332]

I wish someone had asked Meghan if she would have a problem with refugees being persecuted for being Christians should be welcome here.  From the way she was talking today it doesn't sound like she is in favor of any refugees being allowed into this country.  I mean if  you are willing to turn away victims of violence who are you willing to accept?

[RedheadZombie]

On ‎6‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 1:09 PM, backformore said:

The "view your deal"  guy who was on Monday showing stuff that Oprah likes.  He has a weirdly fake very low voice. Like he's trying to be soothing, but it comes across as condescending.

It's not the deepness of his voice that's creepy, IMO, it's that faux soothing tone.  It's like he's trying to talk down a psych patient with a plastic knife to their throat.  And frankly, right or wrong, I'm irritated that such a prominent rep of Oprah's is a white man.

On ‎6‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 10:21 PM, geekburger said:

Whoopi acting like this whole Roseanne reboot\cancellation has precedence. Uh? Not quite.

Also on yesterday’s show when Sunny was PROUDLY talking about being honored and Sara told her to move her mic, Whoopi huffed, got up from her chair, walked over to Sunny and barely moved anything. Odd?

As mentioned upthread, I think Whoopi was referring to Valerie.  It's not a perfect example, but one where the eponymous star was fired and the show went on for years.

On ‎6‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 11:21 AM, Apprentice79 said:

Why is Megan being such a bitch to Sunny? I am sick of the panel treating her like she is an expert on the Republican party.  She is not. She was wrong in the Virginia elections, the guy who won and will take on Tim Kaine, in the fall, is a man with ties to White nationalists. So, she needs to shut the hell up.. The Dems have flipped 43 seats once held firmly, by the Republicans. 

I think the highlighted portion answers your first sentence.   Meghan took this job thinking she'd be riding high on Trump's election.   She lives in such a bubble she assumed everyone loved Trump.  Instead, she's "forced" to defend a dangerous moron on the daily.

[Blissfool]

1 hour ago, cecelia45 said:

I missed the show today, so who in the world brought up the idea of Kim Kardasihan as president???? Did they mean president of the Kanye West fan club? Surely they didn't mean POTUS? Please, tell me who, and how this ridiculous concept was started?!

It was Sunny and it was a joke. They were talking about Kim K' s involvement in getting a woman pardoned earlier this week and now trying to convince the Twitter people to add an edit button and Sunny joked, "woohoo, Kim K for pres!" The audience boo-hooed the idea and, of course, Whoopi thought they were boo-hooing her for saying she doesn't like Twitter.

[backformore]

Great transcription, @bannana

 

The problem that they didn't quite get to was this: 

Quote

Elsa says, reading from her blue card:  The US border says, that if the parents are jailed, the children are separated because the children are not charged with a crime.  I don't agree with any of this, I am just trying to explain how we as a country got here.

SO, when they decide to separate a parent and child, all they have to do is charge the parent with a crime, like resisting arrest, and then it's legal.  

Edited June 14, 2018 by backformore

[Former Nun]

2 hours ago, 17wheatthins said:

I can’t grasp  it, but if I ever get my finger on it I’ll let you all know.

Naughty, naughty.  May I get behind you in line?

[Apprentice79]

21 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

I wish someone had asked Meghan if she would have a problem with refugees being persecuted for being Christians should be welcome here.  From the way she was talking today it doesn't sound like she is in favor of any refugees being allowed into this country.  I mean if  you are willing to turn away victims of violence who are you willing to accept?

Under this administration, Arab Christians were deported back to their homeland, where they would surely be persecuted. Christian for her, means, White Anglo Saxon Protestant. if you don't fit that type of Christian, then, it sucks to be you. She is heartless, that Megan..

Edited June 14, 2018 by Apprentice79

[Catnip]

The only positive thing I can say about MM is she doesn't throw food at the audience!  

[Apprentice79]

17 minutes ago, backformore said:

Great transcription, @bannana

 

The problem that they didn't quite get to was this: 

SO, when they decide to separate a parent and child, all they have to do is charge the parent with a crime, like resisting arrest, and then it's legal.  

Plus, there are 100 facilities with children spread around different states. Children, as young as, a few months old, are being taken from their mothers.  I have a feeling in years to come, the government will be paying reparations to these kids..

[GoldenGirl90]

37 minutes ago, bannana said:

Joy, genuinely confused by what she is trying to say, asks if she believes this is comprehensive, what is going on.

Annoyed, because the answer is not on her blue card, Elsa snarks:  I am trying to explain the history of how we got to this point. 

Joy says she is asking her a question, about whether what Trump is doing is comprehensive.

Thanks for transcribing this! I noticed that anytime the other ladies press her on something, particularly Joy and Sunny, she becomes incredibly frustrated, huffs and puffs, rolls her eyes and usually answers by not really answering, saying "What I'm saying is..." and 9 times out of 10 it never answers their questions. She can't go in depth about what she truly believes, nor why, because she doesn't know - she's just willfully spouting the talking points of her party and reading quotes from her blue card without really connecting the quote to the conversation.

[RedheadZombie]

On ‎6‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 2:06 PM, GiveMeSpace said:

I don't know if you coined "Meh-gun" but that caused me to spit out my coffee. Best nickname ever for her. I will bet she has never done anything but held a gun for a photo shoot and shot skeets. That girl is not out there hunting and skinning animals. She does red-neck theater. I did a little of that shit in high school when I dated a good ole boy hunter for a year. I saw a lot of other girls do it, too. You couldn't swing a dead squirrel without hitting twenty of these gun loving nuts where I come from. Very rural area and there wasn't a lot of choice. It is sort of like that Farmers Only dot com commercial. They show all these so called country girls but they are dressed in red neck formal wear-sparkly stitched jeans with high boots, loads of makeup and drinking beer (not really-it's Zima) from a red solo cup. They pretend to like all that when they are dating. Then when they get married and find themselves doing without because husband spends all his money on sporting equipment, guns, ammo and weekends with the boys (guess what? he never really wanted you to go hunting with him once you got married), they spend their weekends drinking with their girlfriends who are in the same shitty boat-because, well, their shit ass husbands took the good one for another long weekend with the boys. Luckily Meh-gun's wealth will insulate her from what many of her young, female, Republican fan's fate will be in these rural areas.

I didn't watch the show and don't plan to. It is wash, rinse, repeat with these people. I read comments here and can picture it all in my mind. I, of course, still fast forward thru any View Your Deal segments even in my imagination.

Crap! I missed Jon "Hammaconda" Hamm? I may have to catch that. I loved him so much in Mad Men but have not enjoyed him in the roles I have seen him in since. I am sure he is a fine actor, but he will always be Don Draper to me.

Oh I don't know.  I can see Meghan proving party loyalty by shooting small, defenseless animals.  I wouldn't be surprised if Sarah Palin took Megs on one of those scintillating helicopter rides where they shoot wolves with automatic weapons.

I once watched a scene of the band Pistol Annies hunting (Dateline?).  They were out with their shotguns and camouflage, shooting at things.  The non-Miranda Lambert blonde paused to reapply lip gloss, and asked, "Have I killed anything yet?".   I could see Meghan fitting in just fine.

On ‎6‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 3:16 PM, blondiec0332 said:

Why would any Republican listen to her?

Because she's been in politics all her life!

[bannana]

6 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

Thanks for transcribing this! I noticed that anytime the other ladies press her on something, particularly Joy and Sunny, she becomes incredibly frustrated, huffs and puffs, rolls her eyes and usually answers by not really answering, saying "What I'm saying is..." and 9 times out of 10 it never answers their questions. She can't go in depth about what she truly believes, nor why, because she doesn't know - she's just willfully spouting the talking points of her party and reading quotes from her blue card without really connecting the quote to the conversation.

Watching that segment today, I truly believe that she didn't pay attention in their pre-meeting and thought the topic was about children being separated from their parents.  Or something.  She sure was not able to address the topic they were talking about, re the US violating its own laws and rejecting people from those defined categories for asylum.  And I say this as someone who is not following this particular story but based on what was said by the hosts today.  Elsa seemed to be in an entirely different convo, that she must have prepared with hubby last night!

[backformore]

6 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

Thanks for transcribing this! I noticed that anytime the other ladies press her on something, particularly Joy and Sunny, she becomes incredibly frustrated, huffs and puffs, rolls her eyes and usually answers by not really answering, saying "What I'm saying is..." and 9 times out of 10 it never answers their questions. She can't go in depth about what she truly believes, nor why, because she doesn't know - she's just willfully spouting the talking points of her party and reading quotes from her blue card without really connecting the quote to the conversation.

Yes, she starts out by disagreeing, but when pushed to explain what she disagrees with,  she's "just giving a history."  

I know what really pisses Meghan off though - when she and Joy, or she and Sunny, argue, and the audience applauds Joy or Sunny.  

[blondiec0332]

1 minute ago, bannana said:

Elsa seemed to be in an entirely different convo, that she must have prepared with hubby last night!

I think no matter what the topic Meghan will disagree with the table.  

[Apprentice79]

13 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:

Oh I don't know.  I can see Meghan proving party loyalty by shooting small, defenseless animals.  I wouldn't be surprised if Sarah Palin took Megs on one of those scintillating helicopter rides where they shoot wolves with automatic weapons.

Exactly, especially, since, 45 reversed the rule, prohibiting, the hunting of baby wolves and baby bears.  If you kill off baby animals, how do they expect, the species to continue...

Edited June 14, 2018 by Apprentice79

[BuckeyeLou]

I just cant with Meghan....as someone said up-thread, she comes out with a sour expression on her face, like she's not happy to be there & has to be prepared to 'battle".  As for Kelly Preston talking about that Gotti movie, I have no interest in seeing it & it annoyed me no end that Kelly kept saying how nice the Gotti family is & that the wife did not know how her husband made all his money, and that she keeps in touch with them because they are such 'nice" folks...Ugh, please, they are a Mafia family & John Gotti was in jail for a reason....no need to white-wash!

[RedheadZombie]

4 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

“I always toast to freedom”.  Meghan, you’re always so much fun!

Lol.  At first I thought this was in response to the link of John Hamm going commando!

2 minutes ago, BuckeyeLou said:

I just cant with Meghan....as someone said up-thread, she comes out with a sour expression on her face, like she's not happy to be there & has to be prepared to 'battle".  As for Kelly Preston talking about that Gotti movie, I have no interest in seeing it & it annoyed me no end that Kelly kept saying how nice the Gotti family is & that the wife did not know how her husband made all his money, and that she keeps in touch with them because they are such 'nice" folks...Ugh, please, they are a Mafia family & John Gotti was in jail for a reason....no need to white-wash!

Well, she's a member of the Cult of Scientology, whose leader runs the organization like the mafia - racketeering, money laundering, blackmail, enforcers - She feels at home with the Gottis.

[Haleth]

22 minutes ago, Alexis2291 said:

Thanks for transcribing this! I noticed that anytime the other ladies press her on something, particularly Joy and Sunny, she becomes incredibly frustrated, huffs and puffs, rolls her eyes and usually answers by not really answering, saying "What I'm saying is..." and 9 times out of 10 it never answers their questions. She can't go in depth about what she truly believes, nor why, because she doesn't know - she's just willfully spouting the talking points of her party and reading quotes from her blue card without really connecting the quote to the conversation.

Amen to that.  She really is not very deep, is she?

[cecelia45]

Thank goodness it was a joke about Kim for POTUS! They pretty much decimated the Wolf population years ago in Yellowstone National Park. The whole ecosystem was disrupted, and the Park was nearly ruined. Bringing back the Wolves restored the park, although it took a long time. Doesn't anyone in this administration do some research before they act???? I love Wolves, not that I'd like to come face to face with one! But they are remarkable animals, and our beloved dogs are descended from them.

[WarnerCL45]

5 minutes ago, BuckeyeLou said:

I just cant with Meghan....as someone said up-thread, she comes out with a sour expression on her face, like she's not happy to be there & has to be prepared to 'battle".  As for Kelly Preston talking about that Gotti movie, I have no interest in seeing it & it annoyed me no end that Kelly kept saying how nice the Gotti family is & that the wife did not know how her husband made all his money, and that she keeps in touch with them because they are such 'nice" folks...Ugh, please, they are a Mafia family & John Gotti was in jail for a reason....no need to white-wash!

Yeah, I’m sure they’re lovely people !  Gangsters, for pete’s sake, Kelly!

I do find the subject matter interesting- I was a loyal Sopranos watcher, but not sure if they will romanticize the Gottis.

[Apprentice79]

7 minutes ago, cecelia45 said:

Thank goodness it was a joke about Kim for POTUS! They pretty much decimated the Wolf population years ago in Yellowstone National Park. The whole ecosystem was disrupted, and the Park was nearly ruined. Bringing back the Wolves restored the park, although it took a long time. Doesn't anyone in this administration do some research before they act???? I love Wolves, not that I'd like to come face to face with one! But they are remarkable animals, and our beloved dogs are descended from them.

We have already killed off Jaguars who used to roam the south west and California. I have heard that they are starting to come back, slowly. Some of the jaguars are leaving Mexico and parts of Central America, coming here, in search of territory and food. The male jaguars to be exact.

Edited June 14, 2018 by Apprentice79

[RedheadZombie]

3 minutes ago, cecelia45 said:

Thank goodness it was a joke about Kim for POTUS! They pretty much decimated the Wolf population years ago in Yellowstone National Park. The whole ecosystem was disrupted, and the Park was nearly ruined. Bringing back the Wolves restored the park, although it took a long time. Doesn't anyone in this administration do some research before they act???? I love Wolves, not that I'd like to come face to face with one! But they are remarkable animals, and our beloved dogs are descended from them.

Yes, research has shown that when the apex predators are healthy, the entire ecosystem is balanced.   They argued this years ago with maintaining a Grizzly bear (and other bears) population.  Shark depletion is not healthy for our oceans.

3 hours ago, WarnerCL45 said:

She has to check with her hubby to find out what her positions are!  LOL

I feel slightly bad for Meghan because what a push and pull she must have between The Maverick and her husband.  Maybe that's why she's always pissed.

[blondiec0332]

4 minutes ago, WarnerCL45 said:

I do find the subject matter interesting- I was a loyal Sopranos watcher, but not sure if they will romanticize the Gottis.

The movie has not gotten good reviews.  After it initially wrapped it was due to be released as direct to video but the producers bought it back and it is now being released in theaters.  

3 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:

I feel slightly bad for Meghan because what a push and pull she must have between The Maverick and her husband.  Maybe that's why she's always pissed.

This is the same woman who said "no man speaks for me".  Sure Meghan.

[RedheadZombie]

3 hours ago, 17wheatthins said:

There’s just something really likeable about Jon Hamm. I can’t grasp  it, but if I ever get my finger on it I’ll let you all know. ;-D

I've found him a lot less likeable after hearing how he sadistically hazed a guy in a fraternity.  Fractured spine, almost lost a kidney, injury to genitals, set on fire . . .  All because he forgot Hamm's nickname.

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[RedheadZombie]

3 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

Pretty sure someone other than her father now has a greater influence over her.

With one line change - "With liberty and justice for some"

LOL. Meant to quote the pledge of allegiance post.  But I agree with Blondie!

17 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

We have already killed off Jaguars who used to roam the south west and California. I have heard that they are starting to come back, slowly. Some of the jaguars are leaving Mexico and parts of Central America, coming here, in search of territory and food. The male jaguars to be exact.

Only the males?  That's certainly not going to help the population.

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[Apprentice79]

7 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:

Only the males?  That's certainly not going to help the population.

The ones that have been seen are males. There could be females. I assume the males are chase out by their fathers. Plus, with displacement by humans, their habitats getting smaller and smaller.  They are coming here more and more.

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[backformore]

The View’s Meghan McCain tries to justify child migrant prisons — and gets destroyed by her co-hosts

OOH - this is going to piss her off!

[Medicine Crow]

1 hour ago, RedheadZombie said:

Yes, research has shown that when the apex predators are healthy, the entire ecosystem is balanced.   They argued this years ago with maintaining a Grizzly bear (and other bears) population.  Shark depletion is not healthy for our oceans.

 

Preach, honey, preach!!!  ^^^^ x 1000 ^^^^

[Morgalisa]

Wow, the anger is strong in that Meh-gun. I know she has resting bitch face, but you also have to look closely to catch her micro-expressions. Ma & Pa McCain must have never said no to her or voiced disagreement with her in any way. I really wonder what it must have been like for her sister growing up in the house with the little princess.

[cecelia45]

Has MM ever mentioned her sister, other than to say she has one who was adopted? How old is her sibling? It doesn't appear that they are as close as most sisters are. But, who knows? Maybe her sister prefers not to be in the public spotlight, and keeps a low profile? Unlike her older nasty sister!

[RHJunkie]

5 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

Megan has no idea about the injustices that are being perpetuated on people around the world.   In her small mind, someone seeking asylum, is the same thing, as somebody, who overstayed their visa and is now classified as an illegal alien.  Asylum is very broad, it can be a woman fleeing genital mutilation in Africa, gang violence in Honduras, a country, that we helped destabilize, but, I digress. It could be a gay person fleeing death from a very conservative Christian or Islamic country.  It is very sad that we are now refusing people seeking asylum.  So, the next time, she criticizes 45, I will know that it is insincere. She became extremely agitated when the audience was applauding both Joy and Sunny.. 

Meghan loves the kind of democracy that sees America going into other counties, destabilizing their governments where their citizens are the collateral damage to that mission while she gets to sit comfy back in America and toast to America's greatness in saving the world. BUT when that democracy reaches at her doorstep, then her position is on strong border laws that essentially suggest that she doesn't want bodies taking up space and tax payer money in America because their existence in America serves no purpose for her. She wants America to have the glory of liberating these people, but not before her government decides that they need to go in there and do it. Until then, it comes across as her thinking these are unfortunate atrocities, but 'oh well, as long as my tax money doesn't have to support'. 

[Kenz]

3 hours ago, backformore said:

The View’s Meghan McCain tries to justify child migrant prisons — and gets destroyed by her co-hosts

OOH - this is going to piss her off!

She is obviously way in over her head trying to speak logically with a group of intelligent people. If you watch her entrance onto the set, she sits down without pleasantly acknowledging the audience and instead focuses on her blue cards so that she can get ready to pounce with her lame talking points, no doubt prepared by her ultra conservative husband. What pains me is that this immature, spoiled, and foul woman is taking the place of someone who could contribute to a conversation. I can't believe that I miss Jedidiah, even though I didn't agree with her politics. At least she was intelligent, genuine, and didn't scowl and twitch continuously. McCain is making it difficult for me to keep watching The View, and I resent her for that.

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