Spoilers and Speculation: Clink Boom and Cheese Fondue

[TeeVee329]

1 hour ago, ulkis said:

There's a casting call for a friend of Joss. Ack.

For a split second, I thought it might be the friend who was...I can't even remember, transgender or gender fluid?...that Oscar and Joss were trying to protect from bullies with their anti-dance, but then I laughed at myself for being so naive.

Because jsbt is right, here comes Langston 2.0.  If Cameron eats all his vegetables and is extremely lucky, maybe he'll get to be the Markko.

[HeatLifer]

http://abc.go.com/shows/general-hospital/video/spoilers/VDKA4264415

Jason and Anna sneak peek for Monday.

Dear Show, 

Robin does not care if Faison is killed by Anna, Jason, the mailman, the dentist, the zookeeper, etc, etc, etc.

Thnx.

[ulkis]

I know!! When I heard that I was like what sorcery bullshit is this? Faison isn't a troubled teen. KILL HIM. 

[Aurora2]

So St. Jaysus is THE ONE PERSON who could put a bullet in Faison????  THE ONE PERSON. 

Anna's POV came off as a way to justify the writers' choice to AGAIN make Jason a superman hero by giving "reasons" why she couldn't shoot him.

Edited January 27, 2018 by Aurora2

[HeatLifer]

9 hours ago, ulkis said:

I know!! When I heard that I was like what sorcery bullshit is this? Faison isn't a troubled teen. KILL HIM. 

Like, I really don't get it. Robin isn't a child anymore, and this new writing regime treats her like that. She's been through devastating shit. She was the one even RON wrote telling Faison that Jason was going to save her and shoot him dead, lol. 

Edited January 27, 2018 by HeatLifer

[BlancheDevoreaux]

18 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

Ryan Paevey may be a dreadful (non-)actor, but he is nice to look at. Nina has zero use. So, of the two, off her. But then, I don't watch, so if both do kick, I won't cry.

I'm with you.  Not the best actor but certainly hot and I do enjoy his relationships with both Maxie and Dante.  Nina?  Don't care about her or any of the crap she does.  Is there any possible chance at all that Nina is the "eye candy" that is leaving the show?  I mean, I'm a straight female so she does nothing for me but I remember reading a while back that she was supposed to be some gorgeous sex symbol.  Kill her off and have her give Nelle whatever fatal disease she has.  That's a storyline I'd be interested in.

[WendyCR72]

Puh-fucking-lease. It was because of Faison and his loony doc baby maker (and finding a cure for a killer - Jason, to be clear. There are so many!) that Robin ended up losing chunks of her life and time with her husband and - especially - her child.

Does this show honestly think Robin would be horrified/angry if Anna killed Faison?!

If ANYTHING, I think it would FINALLY show that Anna was devastated/did care about her daughter's suffering (rather than the tongue baths Anna gave Sam about the home her own child lived in now being Sam's - and condoning Sobby beforehand.)

[ulkis]

@BlancheDevoreaux , it's RP. KSt mentioned it at the event she had. He's leaving by choice though. 

Edited January 28, 2018 by ulkis

[BlancheDevoreaux]

19 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Sorry @BlancheDevoreaux , it's RP. He's leaving by choice though. And I think Nathan's death might be faked.

Ugh. I was hoping that since neither GH nor Ryan had confirmed or denied it, maybe it wasn't going to happen and they just didn't want to kill the surprise of Nathan recovering.  I saw that picture of Kelly in black and the photos of Nathan, but she always wears black and... okay, I got nothing for why there would be pictures of him.  I'm glad it is his choice, but there are so many characters I'd rather see go.  Nina and Nelle are at the top of that list.

[ulkis]

take this with a large grain of salt. There's a rumor Mike is coming back, as Max Gail, but someone could have made that up because there's some spoiler about Sonny dealing with something from his past.

Edited January 30, 2018 by ulkis

[katie9918]

9 hours ago, HeatLifer said:

Like, I really don't get it. Robin isn't a child anymore, and this new writing regime treats her like that. She's been through devastating shit. She was the one even RON wrote telling Faison that Jason was going to save her and shoot him dead, lol. 

Why must you remind me of that bullshit?

 

No one saved Robin. She saved herself. And it wasn’t that thug Jason, who was a replacement for Sonny’s other thug Stone, who was there at the end of the nightmare. Her husband was there, her Uncle Mac was there, and both her deadbeat parents were there. 

 

Fucking Jasus had nothing to do with Robin finally coming home and I will forever love the image of him being kicked into the harbor like garbage even if it didn’t (to my unending regret) stick.

[yowsah1]

On 1/23/2018 at 4:41 PM, jsbt said:

If he can keep ME on the show he'll do it in any way humanly possible. 

He's the male Kelly Monaco.  They'll just keep rotating him through pairing after pairing until finally one sticks.

[HeatLifer]

1 hour ago, katie9918 said:

Why must you remind me of that bullshit?

 

No one saved Robin. She saved herself. And it wasn’t that thug Jason, who was a replacement for Sonny’s other thug Stone, who was there at the end of the nightmare. Her husband was there, her Uncle Mac was there, and both her deadbeat parents were there. 

 

Fucking Jasus had nothing to do with Robin finally coming home and I will forever love the image of him being kicked into the harbor like garbage even if it didn’t (to my unending regret) stick.

That really had nothing to do with my comment, but OK! Jason sucks! We agree!

5 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

Puh-fucking-lease. It was because of Faison and his loony doc baby maker (and finding a cure for a killer - Jason, to be clear. There are so many!) that Robin ended up losing chunks of her life and time with her husband and - especially - her child.

Does this show honestly think Robin would be horrified/angry if Anna killed Faison?!

If ANYTHING, I think it would FINALLY show that Anna was devastated/did care about her daughter's suffering (rather than the tongue baths Anna gave Sam about the home her own child lived in now being Sam's - and condoning Sobby beforehand.)

Exactly.

[GHScorpiosRule]

I have to defend Stone here. He was not Mooby’s thug. Yeah, sure, he ran errands for him, but he was nowhere near the murderous thug that Jason ended up being.

And I never saw Anna and Robert as deadbeat parents. Robert was in a FUCKING COMA, stabbed in the chest with whatever Obrecht was going to shoot Robin up with. ??????

Anything more would be better suited in the History thread.

[peachmangosteen]

11 hours ago, ulkis said:

take this with a large grain of salt. There's a rumor Mike is coming back, but someone could have made that up because there's some spoiler about Sonny dealing with something from his past.

Who's Mike? I feel like I should know, but it's not coming to me. Is he like Sonny's stepdad or something?

[nilyank]

22 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Who's Mike? I feel like I should know, but it's not coming to me. Is he like Sonny's stepdad or something?

Mike is Sonny's Dad and was played by Ron Hale. He was on the show for years before he retired from acting.

[Bringonthedrama]

On 1/27/2018 at 7:23 AM, Aurora2 said:

So St. Jaysus is THE ONE PERSON who could put a bullet in Faison????  THE ONE PERSON. 

Anna's POV came off as a way to justify the writers' choice to AGAIN make Jason a superman hero by giving "reasons" why she couldn't shoot him.

There was some poor wording there certainly, but I think FH played it well.  Or maybe I just think she put more nuance into Anna's thoughts and dialogue than the writer(s) intended.  Anna is emotionally worn down, possibly has PTSD where Faison is concerned because he keeps coming back.  She also has a unique perception of Robin, formed from the guilt of being  associated with Faison and losing out on all of her daughter's teen years and some of her adult years, from putting Robin on a pedestal as a  super ethical, moral, brilliant human being (if you don't live with someone for years, you may not see their flaws), from the guilt of Robin being a prisoner for years and missing out on time with Emma at lease in part because of Faison's obsession with Anna.  I watched Anna crying to Jason and her lines came off to me like, "I've wanted to kill Faison so badly, but I also wanted to be worthy of being my perfect daughter's mother and I still want to be a true role model for her." That, of course, gets empathy from Jason because he can relate to her perception of Robin (he felt the same way when JnR got together in their youth), and his thoughts and feelings when Michael was a baby...not to mention his thoughts now re: Jake and Danny at a time when they see Drew as their dad and ethical role model. 

[Aurora2]

1 hour ago, Bringonthedrama said:

There was some poor wording there certainly, but I think FH played it well.  Or maybe I just think she put more nuance into Anna's thoughts and dialogue than the writer(s) intended.  Anna is emotionally worn down, possibly has PTSD where Faison is concerned because he keeps coming back.  She also has a unique perception of Robin, formed from the guilt of being  associated with Faison and losing out on all of her daughter's teen years and some of her adult years, from putting Robin on a pedestal as a  super ethical, moral, brilliant human being (if you don't live with someone for years, you may not see their flaws), from the guilt of Robin being a prisoner for years and missing out on time with Emma at lease in part because of Faison's obsession with Anna.  I watched Anna crying to Jason and her lines came off to me like, "I've wanted to kill Faison so badly, but I also wanted to be worthy of being my perfect daughter's mother and I still want to be a true role model for her." That, of course, gets empathy from Jason because he can relate to her perception of Robin (he felt the same way when JnR got together in their youth), and his thoughts and feelings when Michael was a baby...not to mention his thoughts now re: Jake and Danny at a time when they see Drew as their dad and ethical role model. 

I have relaxed my stance a bit since Friday - partly because of this connection Jason has to Robin.  Because one of my priorities for GH is seeing more focus on long term core families, characters and their relationships, I do have to respect this link. 

However, the repeated pattern of Mobster Sonny and his Super Sidekick Jason has worn too thin to be anything more than marginally tolerant with Jason resuming his mantle as the undisputed hero of GH - as the ONLY ONE who could put a bullet in Faison - who could make that shot on Friday.  Especially on Friday when the PCPD were basically refused admission to the Metro Court (other than dying Nathan and Maxie's unconscious escort) - until Jason had a chance to perform his miracle.  I know that the PCPD is often mocked as being like the Keystone Cops, but sometimes we need to look at a primary reason for this status - the promotion and retention of the hero/lead status for Sonny and Jason. 

As for FH, she consistently elevates the material - and can put greater meaning into lesser words.

[Bringonthedrama]

1 hour ago, Aurora2 said:

the ONLY ONE who could put a bullet in Faison - who could make that shot on Friday. 

This is what I meant about poor wording. Anna knows quite well that she (or Robert or Mac, if they suddenly appeared) could put a bullet in Faison and end his life.  I interpreted her comment as meaning "could but a bullet in Faison in a moment when he's not an immediate threat to someone's life,  basically as revenge and for peace of mind, without a moral/legal dilemma."  I think it was Sonny who put the emphasis on only Jason being able to make that shot, but that's because as usual Sonny thinks he and Jason are the center of the universe. Sonny also had the audacity to compare Adela-Deke's abuse to Anna-Faison, and that now he, Sonny (as an adult with skills/power) can save poor Anna where he couldn't save his mother.  Now THAT was some *serious* bullshit writing. Far worse, to me, than Anna feeling fear, anger, conflict about seeing Faison, killing him, and how Robin's feelings about her could change as a result. 

[Aurora2]

3 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

This is what I meant about poor wording. Anna knows quite well that she (or Robert or Mac, if they suddenly appeared) could put a bullet in Faison and end his life.  I interpreted her comment as meaning "could but a bullet in Faison in a moment when he's not an immediate threat to someone's life,  basically as revenge and for peace of mind, without a moral/legal dilemma."  I think it was Sonny who put the emphasis on only Jason being able to make that shot, but that's because as usual Sonny thinks he and Jason are the center of the universe. Sonny also had the audacity to compare Adela-Deke's abuse to Anna-Faison, and that now he, Sonny (as an adult with skills/power) can save poor Anna where he couldn't save his mother.  Now THAT was some *serious* bullshit writing. Far worse, to me, than Anna feeling fear, anger, conflict about seeing Faison, killing him, and how Robin's feelings about her could change as a result. 

That was indeed bullshit writing - and the reek of the bullshit can contaminate other characters in his orbit. 

Thinking of Sonny's respect for Jason's prowess, I'm reminded of a piece of ironic dialogue from almost two weeks ago - words from a scene where Sonny and Jason are talking about finding Faison and understanding WHY he sought out a Jason clone to do his bidding. The words were: "All your knowledge, all your skills, a version he can manage. ... You eliminate anybody quickly, cleanly , no cops. I tell you to to do somehting, you do it. Who wouldn't want that at his disposal?

I wonder if anyone realized the irony in the lead character on GH - the one to which hero status is freely ascribed - having the the same goal, the same vision, the same value-system re a model employee as a hated man described frequently in recent episodes as the "most dangerous criminal in the world?  I wonder if Mo realized the irony.  

The parallel continued with Maxie's words to Faison just after he shot "the uniformed cop" entering from the elevator:   "You shot your own son." 

Edited January 29, 2018 by Aurora2

[peachmangosteen]

LOL at MB in that scene.

[Oracle42]

I hope Plywood is really, truly dead, and that this baby is a tock. Watching him in storylines as a lead while DZ does nothing has reminded me irritatingly of NL being a lead actress while BH was barely a supporting actress in NL's constant front-burner stories

Edited January 29, 2018 by Oracle42

[Aurora2]

1 hour ago, Oracle42 said:

I hope Plywood is really, truly dead, and that this baby is a tock. Watching him in storylines while DZ does nothing has reminded me irritatingly of NL being a lead actress while BH was barely a supporting actress in her stories

I have a list of characters I'd kill off if it meant getting some deserved air time for DZ.  I've been taking a few walks back in time this weekend - and I prefer what I see there!!! 

[HeatLifer]

2 hours ago, Oracle42 said:

I hope Plywood is really, truly dead, and that this baby is a tock. Watching him in storylines while DZ does nothing has reminded me irritatingly of NL being a lead actress while BH was barely a supporting actress in her stories

When Nathan was bleeding out and Maxie was over him, I was shocked at how we've had to witness all this horrific acting since 2014. And...I'm talking about KSt, too. 

Edited January 29, 2018 by HeatLifer

[Hater]

23 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

When Nathan was bleeding out and Maxie was over him, I was shocked at how we've had to witness all this horrific acting since 2014. And...I'm talking about KSt, too. 

Kirsten was so awful in the one clip I watched.  I don't think I even saw her produce many tears.

[nilyank]

I think the best thing that could happen for Maxie is if she lost Nathan.

For one, it will hopefully turn her into vengeful mode the way she was after Georgie was murdered. For another, as nice as Nathan has been to her, they never had any real conflict. He loved her. She loved him. Even being separated for months, wasn't that much a strain on their relationship. In real life, that's great. On a soap, dull, dull, dull.

I know KSt is not leaving the show, but Maxie should leave town for a while and live near her first child.

[Neptune]

[ulkis]

On 1/28/2018 at 9:53 PM, HeatLifer said:

When Nathan was bleeding out and Maxie was over him, I was shocked at how we've had to witness all this horrific acting since 2014. And...I'm talking about KSt, too. 

 

Remember how his head used to swivel around like it was on a hinge? 

Edited February 4, 2018 by ulkis

[In2You]

His acting is horrible in those Hallmark movies too

[ulkis]

It says in SOD that Finn and Kim have a couple scenes. 

Edited February 4, 2018 by ulkis

[TeeVee329]

Kim as in Robin or Kim as in Tamara Braun?

[Hater]

47 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Kim as in Robin or Kim as in Tamara Braun?

Tamara Kim.

[ouinason]

Well, they are doctors. Who work in the hospital. 

[IWantCandy71]

RP isn't a great actor, but he at least has some kind of charm and presence and he did manage to pull off the number one thing that is essential for a fictional character: he made me care what happens to Nathan. He made him likeable but not perfect.

I can't say the same about several front burner actors who will never, ever leave this show. Honestly, I pass the check out line and I see KeMo or BM or SBu or MB or LW's face on the cover of a magazine and I just keep on walking. No interest in their characters or what other character is giving any or all of them a big fat dose of well deserved karma. It would be rage inducing if I cared about this show anymore. Rage inducing, but not a bit surprising. The show I was addicted to so long ago died when Sonny Corinthos was created. I 100% blame Claire Labine or whoever it was that created him. The show's fixture on Sonny and his idiots is that person's fault, bar none. And I don't care that Sonny was initially a somewhat sympathetic, complex human. Had he never been created in the first place, I truly believe this show never would have become General Mobspital.

[Fellaway]

2 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said:

RP isn't a great actor, but he at least has some kind of charm and presence and he did manage to pull off the number one thing that is essential for a fictional character: he made me care what happens to Nathan. He made him likeable but not perfect.

I can't say the same about several front burner actors who will never, ever leave this show. Honestly, I pass the check out line and I see KeMo or BM or SBu or MB or LW's face on the cover of a magazine and I just keep on walking. No interest in their characters or what other character is giving any or all of them a big fat dose of well deserved karma. It would be rage inducing if I cared about this show anymore. Rage inducing, but not a bit surprising. The show I was addicted to so long ago died when Sonny Corinthos was created. I 100% blame Claire Labine or whoever it was that created him. The show's fixture on Sonny and his idiots is that person's fault, bar none. And I don't care that Sonny was initially a somewhat sympathetic, complex human. Had he never been created in the first place, I truly believe this show never would have become General Mobspital.

Co-signed.

[Neptune]

The Scoop: GH previews, teasers, and spoilers for the Week of February 5, 2018

http://soapcentral.com/gh/content/scoop/spoilers/2018/180205.php

[Neptune]

[Neptune]

Anna’s big secret – that she has a secret child with Faison – will lead her down a path to finding him now that Faison is presumably burning in hell. However, keeping her secret comes a little difficult when a surprising someone is revealed to be in the know.

https://tvsourcemagazine.com/2018/02/general-hospital-spoilers-february-5-9-2018/

[Bringonthedrama]

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22 hours ago, Neptune said:

The Scoop: GH previews, teasers, and spoilers for the Week of February 5, 2018

http://soapcentral.com/gh/content/scoop/spoilers/2018/180205.php

A) Not one spoiler is appealing to me B) Who is Jim Harvey? I would be interested to watch if Mac and Robin are in scenes comforting Maxie, and Robin gets a few lines about closure since Faison is dead. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

8 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Who is Jim Harvey?

BJ, err I mean Greg Evigan-friend/associate of Ned who wants to build whatever on Charles Street. And apparently someone from Franco’s past?

[FilmTVGeek80]

On 2/1/2018 at 8:23 PM, IWantCandy71 said:

RP isn't a great actor, but he at least has some kind of charm and presence and he did manage to pull off the number one thing that is essential for a fictional character: he made me care what happens to Nathan. He made him likeable but not perfect.

I never saw this charm or presence and never particularly cared what happened to him which is why I was one of the few unmoved by his death. I thank RP for taking his dubious talents and making a go of it in Hollywood.

 

On 2/1/2018 at 8:23 PM, IWantCandy71 said:

I can't say the same about several front burner actors who will never, ever leave this show. Honestly, I pass the check out line and I see KeMo or BM or SBu or MB or LW's face on the cover of a magazine and I just keep on walking. No interest in their characters or what other character is giving any or all of them a big fat dose of well deserved karma. It would be rage inducing if I cared about this show anymore. Rage inducing, but not a bit surprising. The show I was addicted to so long ago died when Sonny Corinthos was created. I 100% blame Claire Labine or whoever it was that created him. The show's fixture on Sonny and his idiots is that person's fault, bar none. And I don't care that Sonny was initially a somewhat sympathetic, complex human. Had he never been created in the first place, I truly believe this show never would have become General Mobspital.

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No, no, a thousand times, no that Claire Labine is to blame for the steaming pile this show has become. A writer is not to blame for someone later coming along and taking your creation and perverting it in some ungodly way. She's no more responsible than Alfred Hitchcock is for that crappy Psycho remake or Gloria Monty is responsible for how Luke turned out or Frank and Doris Hursley are for what this show has become - after all if they hadn't created it in the first place later EPs/writers couldn't have used it to insult people's intelligence on a daily basis. Claire Labine did her job as a writer - she created a three-dimensional character that a large number of people enjoyed. She's not responsible for Guza having some <i>Sopranos</i> hard-on and becoming infatuated with Sonny and Jason to the detriment of other characters. Hell, she didn't even create Sonny to be a long-term character. But, like Luke, I think Sonny caught on with a lot of people and/or the producers saw a lot of potential in him and kept the character on. That's not a writer's call, that's on the producers.

[In2You]

Paevey lacked charm or charisma. That was part of his problem. There are and have been many people on soaps who can't act/ have limited range. They've coasted on their ability to light up the screen. That's a skill he doesn't posses. His personality is lacking so it was a fail when they were trying to push him as some young face of GH.

[Bringonthedrama]

5 hours ago, In2You said:

Paevey lacked charm or charisma. That was part of his problem. There are and have been many people on soaps who can't act/ have limited range. They've coasted on their ability to light up the screen. That's a skill he doesn't posses. His personality is lacking so it was a fail when they were trying to push him as some young face of GH.

Maybe charisma is the wrong word, but there was a charm in his warmth/kindness, for example I believed that both Nathan and Dante were invested in their friendship and partnership. I really felt for Dante when he was tearfully saying goodbye to Nathan's body. I was touched that Nathan maneuvered for Maxie to spend time with little Georgie for a holiday - Christmas I think - a few years ago.  He showed remarkable patience with all of Spinelli's jealousy/issues regarding Maxie, and the Georgie factor.  Unlike a bunch of character on the show, Nathan believed in prioritizing others above his own self-gratification.  While I wouldn't argue that his personality could lean toward bland, there are other characters still on GH that I could absolutely say lack all charm or charisma.  I hate that they stay while characters like Laura Spencer, Nathan West, Matt Hunter and Steven Lars Webber do not.

[Oracle42]

I think there's a difference between the writing for the character and what the actor brings to the role. Aside from shooting Griffin over spicy bad girl Claudette, Nathan has been a generally decent character, who was written to do generally decent things. Nathan, as played by RP, was a lump. 

[bannana]

5 hours ago, Oracle42 said:

I think there's a difference between the writing for the character and what the actor brings to the role. Aside from shooting Griffin over spicy bad girl Claudette, Nathan has been a generally decent character, who was written to do generally decent things. Nathan, as played by RP, was a lump. 

I liked Nathan.  He was the good guy, the stalwart friend, the loving husband.  Not a show boat character, but likeable.  I was sad when he died.

[TeeVee329]

On ‎2‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 4:50 PM, Neptune said:

Anna’s big secret – that she has a secret child with Faison

A point I'm confused about - Faison clearly knew about LWB/FS so how can he be a "secret child"? 

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

On 2/3/2018 at 4:50 PM, Neptune said:

Anna’s big secret – that she has a secret child with Faison

A point I'm confused about - Faison clearly knew about LWB/FS so how can he be a "secret child"? 

I haz confused too, and posted in the episodes thread. So does Faison have three sons—Nathan, LWB/FS, and Anna's? Or is LWB/FS's Anna's? How does that work if she didn't know about him?

This fakakta show and its fakakta retcons!

[TeeVee329]

This week's promo's all about Nathan's funeral:

1) This show - with its mobster leads - promoting the funeral of a "good cop" is...somewhat narratively inconsistent?

2) I scanned the footage for evidence of Britt and/or Lucas (who?), but didn't spot them.

Edited February 5, 2018 by TeeVee329

[peachmangosteen]

That is actually a pretty great promo. But I agree with your first point. Also, lol that there'd be a chance Lucas would be there. 

[WendyCR72]

Gotta say, the idea of Anna having any spawn with Faison creeps me the fuck out. Another reason to keep not watching. Gross.