S22.E09: The Women Tell All

[OnceSane]

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Eighteen bachelorettes talk about their experience pursuing Arie while he was falling for multiple women; Krystal defends her behavior on the show; a sneak peek at the conclusion of Arie's journey.

[saber5055]

Gawd, I can't stand Tia.

[Jax7917]

9 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

Gawd, I can't stand Tia.

Not one tear in her ever so heartbroken eyes 

[b2H]

The Krystal take down by Arie just raised my hopes for Arie as a real human being.

[legaleagle53]

1 minute ago, b2H said:

The Krystal take down by Arie just raised my hopes for Arie as a real human being.

Oh, so THAT'S what everyone is talking about on Twitter -- he gave her the smackdown she'd been asking for all season!

[saber5055]

3 minutes ago, legaleagle53 said:

Oh, so THAT'S what everyone is talking about on Twitter -- he gave her the smackdown she'd been asking for all season!

Yeah, it was a golden moment, one of the few REAL moments this show has ever had. Arie rocked it.

The bloopers were a big huge waste of time. Arie saying "Meh" because he forgot a line. I hate that. And it's in no way funny. YMMV of course.

I also hate when shows pimp upcoming movies and other shows. Plus that movie looks absolutely horrible.

Edited February 26, 2018 by saber5055

[b2H]

I still want to hear the statement Krystal made that CH referred to.  That would be far more interesting than ‘Merp’.

[adhoc]

Guys, I missed the Arie/Krystal segment. What did they say to each other?

[Stan39]

What was the point of Caroline's statement? Go on national tv to call Arie out on something but not say what it is?

[adhoc]

Stan39 - Yes. They should have edited that out, IMHO. 

[escatefromny]

Not bad all things considered, but gheeze, Krystal?!?  I wish someone had asked the very simple question:  what did you think about your behavior while watching?  Would have loved to see her dance around that.  And why didn’t anyone harp on her entitlement in interrupting the rose ceremony.

And, of course, she had to come sit with Arie on the couch because she is such a special snowflake.  

Hope this is the last we see of her.

[b2H]

It is still a spoiler, I guess.  And we have to wait another entire week to see it.  After the Final Rose is apparently the next week, not after the Peru ep.

[yorklee2]

2 minutes ago, Stan39 said:

What was the point of Caroline's statement? Go on national tv to call Arie out on something but not say what it is?

I think the producers allowed that to stay in so viewers would tune back in to find out what she was talking about. 

[JenE4]

Loving the audience members with Bekah “Missing” and “Found” shirts, the “Glam shaming or bust,” and the “#micdrop” vs “#glitter.” However, what’s with the guy wearing the Zorro mask?? Is he supposed to be the “kissing bandit,” I guess? Or, more likely, his woman dragged him there and he did NOT want to be recognized on TV—at least not watching THIS show. Good call, sir.

Bibi’s mouth is still agape to this day in the reaction-shot box watching Krystal call Arie a “fancy pants” bleeping whatever. I like Bekah’s comment to Krys: “don’t curate a presence.” Some other girl that I’ve never seen is practically hysterical over Krystal; we’re you even ON this show? Krystal “lost her voice” for 6 weeks, lol. Oh, her homeless brother came back, so, jeez, now I can’t laugh at this woman any more.

There is also a WOMAN wearing a Zorro mask that is not sitting anywhere near the man with the Zorro mask, so either this is a “thing” or the ushers were giving them out on the way in to protect the innocent. Please, I would absolutely be there with the gaudiest bedazzled T-shirt this side of the 1980s. I think this season I would go with: “Here for World Tells All.”

I think Sienne just did her Bachelorette audition.

Bekah really DID go to a pot farm after The Bachelor! There goes all of our theories on how the pot farm was the cover-up story for going on this show! See ya in Paradise, Beks—mom’s worst nightmare. Paradise is worse than mom thinking she was murdered or human trafficked or caught up with a drug warlord or whatever put her on the missing persons list. Well, I guess if she ends up like Corrine, point well taken.

Hmm. The most interesting 30 seconds of the entire show was the girl I mentioned earlier about not recalling she was ever on this show—Caroline, apparently—telling Arie “I know what you did...” and Arie responding it will play out over the next few weeks. So, did they push up this episode just to tease that we know this was the most boring season in Bachelor History, but don’t quit on us yet—Arie has lots of regrets, would do lots of things differently, and did something that pissed this girl off...who was long off this show at the time of the events. 

Krystal suddenly pulls out her voice that she doesn’t even know how to do. Oh, damn, Arie is not having it—should have sent your ass home sooner, more or less.

In all, TWTA was a bust. I made the wrong choice going with this over the Olympics closing ceremonies.

Edited February 26, 2018 by JenE4
Because Becca and Bekah are two different people.

[chocolatine]

18 minutes ago, b2H said:

I still want to hear the statement Krystal made that CH referred to.  That would be far more interesting than ‘Merp’.

Apparently,

Spoiler

she called him a "needledick" and Bekah asked if Krystal had even seen his dick.

 

Was this the most potty-mouthed WTA in Bachelor history, or what? Krystal sure drops her Zen persona quickly when she's feeling cornered.

I thought the show was a snooze fest. Run-of-the-mill cattiness, navel-gazing, and Bachelorette auditions. Even the bloopers were lame. Happy to hear Krystal's brother is off the streets though. 

Edited February 26, 2018 by chocolatine

[crgirl412]

What Caroline is referring to is on Reality Steve's site.  Remember he's a big Spoiler!! 

[nlkm9]

7 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

Loving the audience members with Becca “Missing” and “Found” shirts, the “Glam shaming or bust,” and the “#micdrop” vs “#glitter.” However, what’s with the guy wearing the Zorro mask?? Is he supposed to be the “kissing bandit,” I guess? Or, more likely, his woman dragged him there and he did NOT want to be recognized on TV—at least not watching THIS show. Good call, sir.

Bibi’s mouth is still agape to this day in the reaction-shot box watching Krystal call Arie a “fancy pants” bleeping whatever. I like Becca’s comment to Krys: “don’t curate a presence.” Some other girl that I’ve never seen is practically hysterical over Krystal; we’re you even ON this show? Krystal “lost her voice” for 6 weeks, lol. Oh, her homeless brother came back, so, jeez, now I can’t laugh at this woman any more.

There is also a WOMAN wearing a Zorro mask that is not sitting anywhere near the man with the Zorro mask, so either this is a “thing” or the ushers were giving them out on the way in to protect the innocent. Please, I would absolutely be there with the gaudiest bedazzled T-shirt this side of the 1980s. I think this season I would go with: “I came here for World Tells All.”

I think Sienne just did her Bachelorette audition.

Becca really DID go to a pot farm after The Bachelor! There goes all of our theories on how the pot farm was the cover-up story for going on this show! See ya in Paradise, Becs—mom’s worst nightmare. Paradise is worse than mom thinking she was murdered or human trafficked or caught up with a drug warlord or whatever put her on the missing persons list. Well, I guess if she ends up like Corrine, point well taken.

Hmm. The most interesting 30 seconds of the entire show was the girl I mentioned earlier about not recalling she was ever on this show—Caroline, apparently—telling Arie “I know what you did...” and Arie responding it will play out over the next few weeks. So, did they push up this episode just to tease that we know this was the most boring episode in Bachelor History, but don’t quit on us yet—Arie has lots of regrets, would do lots of things differently, and did something that pissed this girl off...who was long off this show at the time of the events. 

Krystal suddenly pulls out her voice that she doesn’t even know how to do. Oh, damn, Arie is not having it—should have sent your ass home sooner, more or less.

In all, TWTA was a bust. I made the wrong choice going with this over the Olympics closing ceremonies.

amazing how as soon as krystal saw arie that ridiculous voice came out? sheesh.

[thejuicer]

I was so over Sienne and Tia auditioning for The Bachelorette.  Sienne, lots of people go to Ivy League schools and are even smarter to not go on this silly show. Tia is so unlikable she makes her friend Raven seem like Julia freaking Roberts by comparison.

Caroline was hardly on the show but she had a lot to say tonight. She was dressed like some slutty 80's school principal. OMG I said the word SLUT OMG WHAT A SOCIOPATH I AM according to Caroline's histrionic tirade.

Marikh looked so silly with the whole glam shame segment.

Krystal...I don't care. Glad your brother is off the streets.

I still like Bekah M., I doubt she'll be The Bachlorette but I think she came off really well tonight.

[crgirl412]

4 minutes ago, JenE4 said:

Loving the audience members with Becca “Missing” and “Found” shirts, the “Glam shaming or bust,” and the “#micdrop” vs “#glitter.” However, what’s with the guy wearing the Zorro mask?? Is he supposed to be the “kissing bandit,” I guess? Or, more likely, his woman dragged him there and he did NOT want to be recognized on TV—at least not watching THIS show. Good call, sir.

Bibi’s mouth is still agape to this day in the reaction-shot box watching Krystal call Arie a “fancy pants” bleeping whatever. I like Becca’s comment to Krys: “don’t curate a presence.” Some other girl that I’ve never sees is practically hysterical over Krystal; we’re you even ON this show? Krystal “lost her voice” for 6 weeks, lol. Oh, her homeless brother came back, so, jeez, now I can’t laugh at this woman any more.

There is also a WOMAN wearing a Zorro mask that is not sitting anywhere near the man with the Zorro mask, so either this is a “thing” or the ushers were giving them out on the way in to protect the innocent. Please, I would absolutely be there with the gaudiest bedazzled T-shirt this side of the 1980s. I think this season I would go with: “I came here for World Tells All.”

I think Sienne just did her Bachelorette audition.

Becca really DID go to a pot farm after The Bachelor! There goes all of our theories on how the pot farm was the cover-up story for going on this show! See ya in Paradise, Becs—mom’s worst nightmare. Paradise is worse than mom thinking she was murdered or human trafficked or caught up with a drug warlord or whatever put her on the missing persons list. Well, I guess if she ends up like Corrine, point well taken.

Hmm. The most interesting 30 seconds of the entire show was the girl I mentioned earlier about not recalling she was ever on this show—Caroline, apparently—telling Arie “I know what you did...” and Arie responding it will play out over the next few weeks. So, did they push up this episode just to tease that we know this was the most boring episode in Bachelor History, but don’t quit on us yet—Arie has lots of regrets, would do lots of things differently, and did something that pissed this girl off...who was long off this show at the time of the events. 

Krystal suddenly pulls out her voice that she doesn’t even know how to do. Oh, damn, Arie is not having it—should have sent your ass home sooner, more or less.

In all, TWTA was a bust. I made the wrong choice going with this over the Olympics closing ceremonies.

I was thinking it was more Tia since CH asked her 2 or 3 times if she was ready for love again.  I like Tia so I wouldn't mind her.  I think it would be hard to find 25 men for Sienne since she is so different than the usual type of guys who do the Bachelor.  

[Jax7917]

Tias audition was so annoying . She was oh so In love and had no idea how she would ever love again , was tearless, and couldn't go from so sad to so excited any quicker than when chris asked if she's open to finding love again .. I know for a fact she'll be on BIP but I highly doubt be the bachelorette .. given that I know the spoilers , I have a pretty good idea of who will be the next bachette. 

[chocolatine]

9 minutes ago, thejuicer said:

Sienne, lots of people go to Ivy League schools and are even smarter to not go on this silly show.

Lots of people who didn't go to Ivy League schools are also smart enough not to go on this show. :)

11 minutes ago, thejuicer said:

I still like Bekah M., I doubt she'll be The Bachlorette but I think she came off really well tonight.

CH said that she'll be on BIP this summer, so that rules her out as Bachelorette, at least for the upcoming season. I think Bekah is much better suited for BIP anyway.

[Alapaki]

Could anyone tell what word Caroline (I know, who?) was complaining about Krystal calling the other women?  It looked like it started with a "t", but I couldn't read her lips for the rest of the word.

Speaking of words that start with T.  I wish Tia would go away.  But I'm afraid we're going to see a lot more of her.  She got the faux-profound "you really fell in love with this guy/girl, didn't you?" question.

[dbell1]

Ugh. Anyone but Tia. Tattlers don't get roses.

Give us #3, or Chelsea. Sienne, Jacqueline, Bekah. Lots of good candidates here. I don't need her nasty side on this show. Send her to BIP. 

The masks are because some woman had one on.

Krystal and her multiple personalities can go away. And it wasn't "sluts" that got them upset. It was the c word.

[Jax7917]

I don't know about any of you, but besides the traveling factor , id rather go on BIP than the bachelor.. a lot more guys to choose from and you can have more fun rather than stick to a boring script / sit around a house and talk about other peoples relationships all day 

[chocolatine]

6 minutes ago, Alapaki said:

Could anyone tell what word Caroline (I know, who?) was complaining about Krystal calling the other women?  It looked like it started with a "t", but I couldn't read her lips for the rest of the word.

It started with a "c," you can imagine the rest. 

[calpurnia99]

Who is Caroline? Was she on the show? She looked familiar? What happened with her on the show? anything? Can't remember what happened but she does look familiar.  Did she have a one on one date?

[nutty1]

I thought Chris Harrison was going to announce Tia as Bachelorette right then and there! I am in the minority and like Tia. 

Was thrilled with the Krystal smack down!! 

[Stan39]

53 minutes ago, adhoc said:

Guys, I missed the Arie/Krystal segment. What did they say to each other?

It started with Krystal saying she thought how Arie left her was cold, to which Arie said in retrospect he thought it was pretty appropriate. He called her out for being fake and different around him then around others, and if he'd have known what she was like he probably would have ended things sooner. And he told her he was upset at how she treated the other women. Pretty much everything Krystal said, he had a solid rebuttal calling her on her bs. And then she tried to apologize for calling him needledick, to which it was revealed that Arie hadn't even seen all the horrible things she said about him. Basically, Krystal looked awful and Arie actually seemed like a stand up guy. 

[nutty1]

Arie has been tweeting a lot this evening and he does seem to have more personality than shown this season. 

[betha]

Please refrain from hinting about the spoilers for those of us unspoiled! I have to say, this *did* do its job of getting me excited to watch the next two weeks to see what happens. 

My two takeaways- oh Krystal. I felt bad for her. She wasn’t an evil person on the show. I found her pretty entertaining and harmless, though annoying. thought the women and Ari were all extra mean. Maybe I just need to hear all the tape to understand.  I was happy to hear about her brother. 

- Marikh did not come off well at all getting all defensive about the glam-shaming. I had hoped the previous segment was a joke they were both in on, but no, she was dead serious. 

[TheFinalRose]

No Tia. I'd rather see Chelsea or Jacqueline as the Bachelorette, and we don't know who is coming in third place here either ... Lauren, Becca or Kendall are all better choices.  

No to putting non-Bachelor cast on the couch .... that movie cast shouldn't have been there.  What a waste of WTA time.

[kira28]

God I hate Tia. She comes off as so fake. I never saw any type of spark between her and Arie. They were friends at most. She's very unattractive. The thin lips and pointy nose. I see a  old lady face every time I look at her. Sienne is gorgeous. Krystal blah. I couldn't tell what they bleeped out.. I thought she called Arie a needle dick and then Bibbiana asked if she'd ever saw Aries dick and Krystal confirmed she had. Maybe they hooked up in Scottsdale? And that's y Krystal thought she had this thing in the bag? 

Caroline was annoying. I didn't even recognize half of the women. The glam shaming thing  was funny when Chelsea said it but i honestly don't think Chelsea meant it In a vicious manner and what's her name just looked stupid for being so offended. Loved aries smack down of Krystal. 

[Stan39]

3 minutes ago, TheFinalRose said:

No Tia. I'd rather see Chelsea or Jacqueline as the Bachelorette, and we don't know who is coming in third place here either ... Lauren, Becca or Kendall are all better choices.  

No to putting non-Bachelor cast on the couch .... that movie cast shouldn't have been there.  What a waste of WTA time.

I understand you don't like Tia, but let's not get hysterical. Lauren would NOT be a better choice. She's barely said three words this entire season and has no personality. 

[Meowwww]

I still don’t know who Caroline is.  Nor most of the other women.  Caroline who?

[TheFinalRose]

1 minute ago, Stan39 said:

I understand you don't like Tia, but let's not get hysterical. Lauren would NOT be a better choice. She's barely said three words this entire season and has no personality. 

OMG you're right. In my anti-Tia haste I inadvertently included Lauren. My mistake.  

[Wings]

i changed my mind so deleted  my post!

Edited February 26, 2018 by Wings

[Meowwww]

Totally setting up Sienne as bachelorette.  Won’t happen probably.  

[yorklee2]

One of my pet peeves of the WTA shows is how Chris H will ask two women questions about something that occurred just between them and they barely respond before there will be someone cut them off to put their two cents in. Especially the ones eliminated early. And the screaming over top each other to be heard. Geez.

Seems to be differing opinions about Tia but I just can't understand how anyone could like her after she showed her true colors with backstabbing Bekah like she did. And I say that not because it was Bekah in particular. It wouldn't have mattered who it was it was the principle of the matter. It was just skeevy and low class. And she's so transparent in her desire to be the Bachelorette. She was practically groveling. I saw a interview with her after the WTA taping and she made the statement that America loved, "tears and vulnerability" in response to be asked about her reaction after being eliminated. I understand that some may come on with that intention but the desperation is strong with this girl and she as good as admitted she's been conning the viewers. Ugh. Don't like her. Can't help it. So many better choices IMO.

Edited February 26, 2018 by yorklee2

[thesupremediva1]

I despise Bekah M. What a condescending little bitch. Tia told you to your face everything she said to Arie. She has every right to express her opinion. She never trashed or came at anyone.

Bekah is a snowflake millennial who thrives on perceived slights and gets off on being offended. If you're not kissing her ass, she's lecturing you on how to behave better.

Please dear Lord, let this be the last time her obnoxious face is on my TV. 

Edited February 26, 2018 by thesupremediva1

[call me ishmael]

Hmm, let me think about this.  Tia is on a 2 on 1 date with a visit to home on the line and she bad-mouths Bekah "because of her concern for Arie." And knowing nothing really about Bekah's background she passes judgment on whether she's ever been in love.  Yes that seems genuine and not calculated.

I thought Tia was just remembering the script from some high school play tonight.

[yorklee2]

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Tia told you to your face everything she said about Arie.

And that was supposed to make it hurt less? Tia was only trying to do damage control because she knew how it would be perceived by viewers. She did it out of desperation and jealousy. She's been conning the viewers all along. 

[thesupremediva1]

She said she felt Bekah was too young, and that she treated the show like a game. Nothing she said was earth-shattering, or a revelation. In fact it's nothing Arie didn't know already, most likely. Chelsea said worse in her talking head about Bekah, so who cares?

Edited March 1, 2018 by thesupremediva1

[Stan39]

Well, now we know why Arie kept Lauren. 

[yorklee2]

52 minutes ago, thesupremediva1 said:

She said she felt Bekah was too young, and that she treated the show like a game. Nothing she said was earth shattering, or a revelation. In fact it's nothing Arie didn't know already, most likely. Chelsea said worse in her talking head about Bekah, so who cares?

Exactly it's something he already knew so why did she feel the need to tell him? Arie's a big boy he can take care of himself. She told him because she wanted that hometown so bad she wasn't taking any chances. Yeah all the women said different things about each other but Tia was the only one who tattled to Arie. And I care because I would rather have a classy Bachelorette who got the spot fair and square and not by devious means. 

Edited February 26, 2018 by yorklee2

[thesupremediva1]

It's not tattling when the information is already known. She expressed her opinion and came off a little desperate. Big whoop. I don't see it being worth the level of outrage it's provoked.

[yorklee2]

2 minutes ago, thesupremediva1 said:

It's not tattling when the information is already known. She expressed her opinion and came off a little desperate. Big whoop. I don't see it being worth the level of outrage it's provoked.

Obviously you have your opinion I have mine. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

[call me ishmael]

2 minutes ago, thesupremediva1 said:

It's not tattling when the information is already known. She expressed her opinion and came off a little desperate. Big whoop. I don't see it being worth the level of outrage it's provoked.

Well first, she didn't tell her what she said since she passed it off as "a lot" of the woman having concerned not what she really said.  Plus the "big sister" act.  Basically she was acting holier than thou and people don't want to watch her.  Seems fair to me.

[yorklee2]

21 minutes ago, call me ishmael said:

Well first, she didn't tell her what she said since she passed it off as "a lot" of the woman having concerned not what she really said.  Plus the "big sister" act.  Basically she was acting holier than thou and people don't want to watch her.  Seems fair to me.

Well I suppose it wasn't, "tattling" per se. Essentially she wanted to plant a seed of doubt in Arie's head. I'll call it what it was...backstabbing. And yes I call bs with the "big sister" and "protect his heart" defenses. So yeah I agree I rather not see her as the Bachelorette.

Edited February 26, 2018 by yorklee2

[ChiMama]

2 hours ago, saber5055 said:

I also hate when shows pimp upcoming movies and other shows. Plus that movie looks absolutely horrible.

There were many things to hate about this WTA, but that was one of the worst. That horrible movie, plus the extended previews (with intro from CH) for the new Jenna Fischer TV show (which actually looks somewhat promising). How annoying to take up during-the-show time for MORE commercials on top of the already PLENTIFUL amount of commercials during breaks from this show.

This show was not good. TOO MUCH time on fake-ass Krystal (used her homeless brother to try to pull the heartstrings & came off faker than ever, and true to form, got a SECOND round at couch time to confront Arie -- though it did result in her take-down, so OK). Obvious Tia setup for the Bachelorette (won't be watching). Bekah on BIP - (cough)famewhore(cough) and to quote Arie "meh." Weird, angry comment about "I know what you did/how could you do that?" (from Caroline, I think) with no followup or explanation (very cute, show -- why didn't you cut it or explain it?). Too many "most dramatic/surprising/romantic in history" comments from CH -- sprained my eyeball muscles rolling them. Weak bloopers. Positioning Krystal as biggest villainess in show history with a clip of past bitches that only demonstrated Krystal is a lightweight in EVERY way. lol

It was just a weird, disorganized, underwhelming waste of two hours.

[Andromeda]

GET THAT UNRELATED CRAP OFF OF MY SHOW, PRODUCERS! I don't want to see "Blockers" or plugs for new sitcoms!! I'd much rather have more interviews. Sure, this is a top-rated show, but it won't stay that way the more you corrupt the format with crap. I fast-forwarded through all of it.

I am now even more sure that Arie was forced to keep Krystal for at least two rose ceremonies. He really came to detest her.

OK, I am needing to know what Caroline is referring to. If it's about the actual show, and not some bad-boy behavior following filming, then that's just awesome, can't wait!

Yay, Bekah coming to Paradise! But BOO on any hint of Tia as Bachelorette. Such a foul-mouth (she actually said pissed instead of mad or angry. So unnecessary and declasse. I don't believe she was all that hurt, and I don't agree that tattling on Bekah was in any way necessary. Bekah's right -- Tia has had crappy boyfriends in the past and that's all on her (Tia).

Seinne would make a wonderful b'ette.