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Mittengirl
Mittengirl

I cannot believe that there are some journalists who are suggesting that US Figure Skating needs to be more like US Gymnastics in the training of young athletes.  The very idea is so - I don’t even kn

herbz
herbz

The Nassar situation isn't another discussion- Karolyi's methods and reign of intimidation directly created a world in which young girls pushed through injuries which sometimes permanently crippled th

Growsonwalls
Growsonwalls

Wow I feel bad for both girls.  There's Med, crying because at the ripe old age of 18 she's gotten dumped for the New Shiny Thing, and then there's New Shiny Thing, all of a sudden looking so childlik

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CherryMalotte

CherryMalotte

If you skate to Clair De Lune the requirement is you must skate softly, beautifully, delicately...and wear some blue with just a hint of sparkle, or a dark shade of purple, draped with a longer skirt.  A quiet performance is just more dramatic and lovely than any jump fest.  

I may not watch til the end tonight, Johnny and his salivating over his NotRussians has worn thin.
   

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methadonna

methadonna

11 minutes ago, sab85 said:

The Swiss skater: IF you have to skate to Phantom why are you in the middle of a spin during the most dramatic part of it? Do the choreographers listen to the music?

No.

I forget whether it was during the event or Olympic Ice, but, while raving about Pap and Ciz, Tanith said—with great and sincere admiration—in partial explanation for the “inexplicable magic” that is their performance (inexplicable is the accurate part to me; I get that it may be technically proficient but I find nothing about it that pulls me in), something like,

“They said that it really was the music that did it for this program. That they just let the music speak and determine where they should put the different program elements.”

And, I’m no skater, but my mouth just about dropped open at the idea that this was, like, some sort of revelation, because I would think that’s ... the bare minimum of how it works?! I know in ice dance, they have very specific elements they have to incorporate, but... doesn’t the music determine WHERE you place them (unless you’re not!Russian and care more about bonus points than artistry, in which case: why are we bothering skating to music? It’s like how MAG gave up the pretense on floor but WAG hasn’t and it’s still pretty much background noise for most programs), and then you choreograph the rest of the program around that?

If I didn’t misunderstand Tanith’s statement and utter amazement and admiration at this revelation (and it’s certainly possible—shit, I hope to hell—I did), then that’s a major reason so many programs seem so empty/unartistic today.

(And, I’d say it was less about the code of points than a serious breakdown in understanding music and choreography, but I guess if you incentivize backloading, you de-incentivize choreographing a program that makes use of the music). 

But that fails to explain to me why this would be so revelatory to Tanith, who had really impressed me when talking about coaching staff making her study various paintings to improve her artistry and interpretation and applying that to how some specific skaters could improve their performances (she was far more specific than this, which is why I find it questionable that she would have just been handed a piece of music, choreography, and had no concept of how one informed the other, or should have).

But, back to your question, apparently, unless you’re Pap and Ciz, no, and I think they’re choreographing more to Where Does The Bonus Period Fit rather than where does the music fit.

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Conotocarious

Conotocarious

47 minutes ago, Omeletsmom said:

My dislike of Med stems primarily from her use of Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close.  I thought that was in very poor taste.  Any program that the announcers basically have to read a trigger warning before should not be skated.

God, yes. First of all, no one should ever be doing sit spins and bielmanns to the sounds of 9/11 sirens. Ever. Second, that’s not your tragedy to skate to, kid. Frankly, it’s shouldn’t be skated to by anyone but definitely not by you.

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