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She was trying to shame Teddi into making assumptions/one upping Teddi and instead Erika looked bad. Erika is seething. She’s going to come for Teddi in retaliation. But, Teddi is smart. Keep watching ! 

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Do the Maloofs still own The Palms resort in Vegas?  They stayed at the Venetian, right?  I read today that Adrienne was furious a few seasons back because Lisa V stayed at another hotel while in Vegas.  lol It was part of the storyline that season.  It's vaguely familiar to me.   I missed some of this episode.  Was it addressed?

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maloof_family

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8 minutes ago, howiveaddict said:

Does that mean she married her grandpa?

Maybe. Erika was raised by a terrible mother who made her walk to the neighborhood store to get groceries. Her grandparents' home was her safe space.

Meanwhile, Kyle was raised by an actual terrible mother who took her children to Studio 54 and allowed them to drive themselves to set at 14. Erika pronounced Big Kathy to be amazing.

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1 hour ago, noveltylibrary said:

It made me sick when Madonna did it, but for some reason I find it endearing from Dorit.  I guess because I like her.

I like her,I find Madonna a stuck up cow.

My accent comes and goes, bite me..lol

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1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Do the Maloofs still own The Palms resort in Vegas?  They stayed at the Venetian, right?  I read today that Adrienne was furious a few seasons back because Lisa V stayed at another hotel while in Vegas.  lol It was part of the storyline that season.  It's vaguely familiar to me.   I missed some of this episode.  Was it addressed?

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maloof_family

Yes they still own it to my knowledge and yes Adrienne was pissed that Lisa and co. stayed at another hotel. It was addressed and part of their storyline in either S2 or 3. 

2 hours ago, LIMOM said:

WTH happened to Adrienne?

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Girl really needs to lay off the filler. Botox would suffice at helping the wrinkles stay away! God forbid you have some facial definition. 

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25 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said:

Yes they still own it to my knowledge and yes Adrienne was pissed that Lisa and co. stayed at another hotel. It was addressed and part of their storyline in either S2 or 3. 

Girl really needs to lay off the filler. Botox would suffice at helping the wrinkles stay away! God forbid you have some facial definition. 

The Maloofs (not just Adrienne) have only owned 2% of the hotel and casino since 2011, basically at the time they filmed  Pandora's weekend.

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10 hours ago, psychoticstate said:

 

I've always liked LisaR (the cheese stands alone).  I wonder if the LisaR we see on the show is the real LisaR or a character she's playing to keep her place on the show.  After all, she either needs to stir the pot and/or be directly involved in some kind of conflict.  Regardless, her kids do seem like snotty little brats.  I'd much rather see LisaR with her QVC (or is it HSN?) work and interacting with the family's dog.

Kyle probably shouldn't be telling everyone else about Harry Hamlin and the hike.  Day after the reunion, I don't really blame him.  If Kim didn't want to keep LisaR's gift of the bunny, freaking donate it.  It would be pretty hurtful to return it so again, I don't blame him saying something (although Kyle isn't responsible for what Kim does and does not do.)  By the same token, LisaR isn't responsible for what Harry Hamlin does and does not do.  

 

I have always liked LisaR too, and Harry. But can't stand their kids. 

I didn't realize until this epi that the hike where Harry and Kyle saw each other was the day after the reunion. I don't blame Harry either for what he said. And don't know why LisaR felt the need to apologize to Kyle for something Harry said. I doubt very much that Kyle would apologize for something her hubby said. 

Hmmm, so Dorito thinks it is wonderful to have boys. I hope her daughter doesn't see that comment at some point. How unfortunate for Jagger that he is a carbon copy of his father. Looks cute on a small child, not at all on an adult. Or at least the PK version of an adult. 

I would have to say I would have to look pretty hard in LV to find two people dressed as ridiculously as Dorito and Erika. And that is saying a lot. The closest I have come is a group of adults wearing nothing but diapers and sucking on soothers. 

Interesting that Teddy said she would not let someone else dictate how much she gambled, but didn't say a word when Dorito said that would each take $5,000 in chips. Unless her reply was edited out. Still not sure if I like her or not, but still not buying that her father was just like all the other dads. I am pretty sure people where she was raised knew who JCM was. Or JC. or JM. Whatever name he was going by at the time. And while she may not have been given a trust fund, I am sure her father paid for her hobby as an equestrian and a pretty decent lifestyle growing up. 

I laughed at LVPs comments about LisaR changing her ways, and how mean she has been previously. (Can't remember her exact words). You would have to go a long way to outmean LVP. I did love her classy outfit though while hanging around the clowns that were Dorito and Erika. 

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I don't really like Dorit's little cackle at the end of when she says something she thinks is funny, and I also don't really love hearing her draw out and carefully pronounce each word. I always feel like I'm watching a witch from that Roald Dahl movie, "The Witches." They are pretty ladies and then when they get inside their den they become all nails and long noses... anyway. She's cute, but man, she is really trying too hard to prove just about everything, with her kids, her hair, her boobs, her accent, her cackle and non-verbals, high pitched squeals, outfits, boobs, transcontinental lifestyle. Just enough! But she is cute, and maybe she's trying to brand herself like Rinna (only she refuses to change her hair).

I loved the color of LVP dress. Their dancing was a little awkward-- with everyone staring and eyeing each other up and down while pretending to be carefree and dancing. UGH. it was the worst. I was so happy when the dancing club thing was over.

Ericka has always said she was raised by a single mom, so I'm not sure what the shock is about her...uh, being raised by a single mom. Maybe she was testy because Teddi just assumed that everyone had a father they grew up with. It was a little privileged girl faux pas, and Ericka called her right out on it. I've learned the same thing as Teddi-- don't assume everyone grew up with a father, it shows your ignorance. At least, that's how I took it. 

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1 hour ago, bravofan27 said:

Ericka has always said she was raised by a single mom, so I'm not sure what the shock is about her...uh, being raised by a single mom.

I don't think it's that surprising that the women didn't know because they aren't real friends and I know plenty of people who say that they were raised by a single parent but they still know their other parent and might have even spent time with them growing up, they were just not involved in the day to day parenting. 

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2 hours ago, Primal Slayer said:

Yes they still own it to my knowledge and yes Adrienne was pissed that Lisa and co. stayed at another hotel. It was addressed and part of their storyline in either S2 or 3. 

Girl really needs to lay off the filler. Botox would suffice at helping the wrinkles stay away! God forbid you have some facial definition. 

She looks like a pork pie. I didn't think it was her at first, crazy cat lady eyes as well.

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On 12/27/2017 at 9:14 AM, njbchlover said:


When Teddi was explaining what she does as an "accountability coach", I still didn't get it.  So, people actually pay her to remind them to work out, eat healthily, stay on their fitness plan/regimen?  They pay her to call/text them little motivational sayings that they could easily just ask Alexa (Amazon Echo) or Google Home to recite for them?Seriously, when P.T. Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute", he must have been foretelling the future in Beverly Hills, where people have so much money they can throw it away on stupid stuff like this.

Where can I get a job like that?  And, how much does it pay?  

There are freaking apps that do that. She described it as texting once a day.

I still don't think I'm going to like Teddi, but Erika was being a catty B in all scenes with her.

I had a rollercoaster of a bad childhood, but that doesn't excuse any bad behavior I may have now for it,  it might explain it,  but not excuse it. 

Dorit has a politicians recall of facts. There are recordings of her husband saying those things,  Jesus. There is something wrong with her and I hate watching a compulsive liar. 

Kyle really shouldn't talk about anyone else's tired dance moves,  but the magnifying glass thing was cute. 

LisaV is boring me.  

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6 hours ago, noveltylibrary said:

It made me sick when Madonna did it, but for some reason I find it endearing from Dorit.  I guess because I like her.

I don't like Dorit at all,  but agree about the accent,  down to the Madonna observation. I also think she's gorgeous, now if she'd just stop lieing and giggling at her own jokes 

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On 12/26/2017 at 9:10 PM, dosodog said:

I use Bubba as a term of endearment, like some people use honey or dear or sweetie.  Shrugs shoulders...  

Pugs must be flying somewhere because...really small voice....I liked everybody tonight.

Even Rinna.  Who behaved non-viley. 

Will it last? 

Oh yeah!  Best moment was Camille and her shade about Lisa not having Eileen as back up!

As do I; my whole family greets each other with "Hey Bubba!" and I have an older friend who does the same.

I too enjoyed everyone; I thought it was nice that everyone wanted to move on and change the energy.  Will it last?  No, but still...

I'm in that small minority that loves Dorit; she is perfect reality tv to me.  And I 'm probably the one woman island that likes PK. *runs*

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I like Dorit too, though her laughing at all of her jokes is getting annoying. I don't mind PK either.

We'll see if Rinna behaves herself this season. Kim isn't making an appearance, Eileen is gone, and after Erika turned on Eileen, I think Rinna realized that Erika's got no one's back.

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Erika hangs with all gay guys so she has taken on the social interactions she has seen between them, which is a lot of catty backhanded jabs thats meant in more of a playful fun way but can come across has bitchy...trust me my friends and I do this all the time and always say if someone was Listing in and didn't know we were friends they would think we hate each other.. when we are nice to you is when you know we dont like you lol

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I'd like to see a couple of episodes where ALL the ladies get an honest makeover, from hair, makeup, clothes, shoes, etc. on down.  And the glam squads get dashed for awhile.   Some of the ladies are stuck in the 90's and need help. I suspect their regular people are too scared to change up their look.  Others just don't seem to have much taste or they are bored and are trying to make people laugh. I happen to like a couple of their hairstyles, but, the others need new ones, imo.  

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8 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Kyle really shouldn't talk about anyone else's tired dance moves, 

 

Haha!  Seriously...  Helicopter ponytail, much?  I've been revisiting the season 1 & 2 episodes that my DVR recorded the past couple weeks, and there is so much helicopter-ponytailing from Kyle, it's embarrassing.

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6 hours ago, Noire said:

As do I; my whole family greets each other with "Hey Bubba!" and I have an older friend who does the same.

I too enjoyed everyone; I thought it was nice that everyone wanted to move on and change the energy.  Will it last?  No, but still...

I'm in that small minority that loves Dorit; she is perfect reality tv to me.  And I 'm probably the one woman island that likes PK. *runs*

I also like Dorit and PK.  I find them to be fun and I like the rapport they have with each other.  IF they really are coke addicts, then they function really well.

Hey.  It's their noses. Not mine.  It wouldn't be the first time I've "supported" a celebrity coke heads lifestyle. Waves to just about every music band I listened to in the 70s.  Hellooooo!

In any case, our island is fun.  We can use any accent we want (I'll be the one doing the bad Jamaican accent), wear our pajamas anytime we want wherever we want, a different hairstyle for every hour of the day and Dooney bags for anyone who jumps off a boat (I'm a Dooney girl thanks to Kathryn.  She made me reevaluate my purse situation....)

And Lisa Rinna is not welcome.

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1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Erika hangs with all gay guys so she has taken on the social interactions she has seen between them, which is a lot of catty backhanded jabs thats meant in more of a playful fun way but can come across has bitchy...trust me my friends and I do this all the time and always say if someone was Listing in and didn't know we were friends they would think we hate each other.. when we are nice to you is when you know we dont like you lol

That is  also how I see Lisa V. and her jokes, too. 

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Erika also said in her talking head that shes not used to hanging with girls and the whole texting thing and needing to be reassured about the friendship is new to her since she just hangs with the boys....and yes we do just respond with one or two words like hey bitch or something like that so i get where she is coming from in that area

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3 minutes ago, charming said:

Erika has a habit of putting down other women and acting like she's "above" them. In her world women are so "awful" that she can only hang out with gay men......who depend on her for a paycheck.  Maybe the "problem" is with Erika not being able to get along with people.

Funny how everyone is getting along with Erika tho the only one thats not is the new girl and its not like they are fighting they just met ...... so whats your point?

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Not many upclose pics of Adrianne around~ she looks like she was ridden hard and put away wet. 

Doesnt Erika live really far from the other women? Wonder if her new “Office” is because it is too far for the others to film at her home, OR Grandpa Tom doesn’t want them filming at his house? 

I liked Dorit last season, but she is putting on airs and too camera savvy this season. 

Rinna’s bratty spawn make me nauseous. 

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15 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

The thing that annoyed me about the Rinna and daughter scene the most is that it was clearly planned and something they thought would be "cute". 

Agree.  That was totally staged.  Rinna thought it made her look good.

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22 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

erika chims in and says you arnt defined by who your parents are you are your own person....Teddy says that be like someone asking me how is it growing up with your dad ..erika says well i dont know him......Then the other girls ask her to elaborate.... again teddy doesn't have a strong personality and fades into the background this isnt round robin where everyone gets a turn to speak and no one else talks when they do... again i'll say it teddy isnt like the other girls in the group and his more reserved and not as outgoing....

Ahhh, thank you for reminding me of this. I knew there was some extra reason why I knew that Erika was seething with jealousy over Teddi/her dad being John Mellencamp. When Dorit asked Teddi how it was having him as a father, Erika instantly had to jump in and say the thing about not being defined by your parents, you are your own person. That was to steer things away from Teddi's story which Erika did NOT want to hear. She does not want another person having the spotlight on them and them being "special" in some way (like having a rock star dad), she is the only one who is supposed to be special. So she tried to downplay Teddi's famous dad and change the subject. I  see right through her and she is repulsive. Obsessed with herself to a very sick degree. I wonder what else happened to her growing up that she turned out like this? A person that left her toddler behind to pursue fame too. Simply vile.

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On ‎12‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 8:47 PM, WireWrap said:

IMO, the difference between the Rinna/HH and Yolanda is that the Hadid sisters never came across (on camera) as entitled, spoiled brats like the Hamlin sisters do/are, making Yolanda look like the better parent. 

Yes, it is true that Rinna couldn't be bothered to visit her father/mother but Yolanda couldn't be bothered to visit her mother when she was in the hospital getting treatment for breast cancer either, instead Yolanda went on a vacation with DF to Canada. Both women are full of themselves IMO. 

Totally agree. I didn't like Yolanda either. "Gigi my loooove".  Bella gets a DUI and then a fully furnished NYC apartment courtesy of her parents....their story is pretty nauseating too. But Gigi seems nice enough. Bella, not too sure. Yolanda was another trip of a person. The good news is that Yolanda, Bella and Anwar all seem free of Lyme these days........ha

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On 12/26/2017 at 11:03 PM, JakeyJokes said:

People order vodka waters when they a) are very calorie-conscious or b) don't want to get shitfaced but don't want to make the effort to order a water separately.

I honestly think she meant vodka/soda (meaning club soda or some sort of sparkling water). Ive also been a bartender, and most people order vodka/soda/cran/gingerale etc...but erika is kinda of a dumbass and was trying to hard for the cameras and said vodka/water instead...jmo

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Another who who thinks it looked staged, like a lot of what Rinna does.

Her whole schtick reminds me of one of those bad 80s comedies that involve a courtroom scene and at some point, the judge just finds the whole thing so kooky, he tosses away his gavel and joins in on the party. Like the gavel tossing judge, Rinna tosses her mom gavel because "these kooky kids and their $280 steaks on my credit card!"  Not cute.

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3 hours ago, Miss Bones said:

Haha!  Seriously...  Helicopter ponytail, much?  I've been revisiting the season 1 & 2 episodes that my DVR recorded the past couple weeks, and there is so much helicopter-ponytailing from Kyle, it's embarrassing.

Don't forget Kyle's splits.  lol  She cracked me up with that.  You could tell how she is so proud of that skill.  It is a skill, right?  lol 

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Erika hangs with all gay guys so she has taken on the social interactions she has seen between them, which is a lot of catty backhanded jabs thats meant in more of a playful fun way but can come across has bitchy...

IOW, she adapts the personalities of others because she's unoriginal AF.

Too bad she never chose to take on the traits of a mother who puts her child's needs above her own.

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10 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Don't forget Kyle's splits.  lol  She cracked me up with that.  You could tell how she is so proud of that skill.  It is a skill, right?  lol 

Haha, maybe if you are in some kind of...middle-aged flexibility contest? I can do them at my ripe old age but I can honestly say that never have they been in public since my cheerleading days! 

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1 hour ago, TattleTeeny said:

Haha, maybe if you are in some kind of...middle-aged flexibility contest? I can do them at my ripe old age but I can honestly say that never have they been in public since my cheerleading days! 

I am impressed Teeny!

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2 hours ago, jaync said:

IOW, she adapts the personalities of others because she's unoriginal AF.

Too bad she never chose to take on the traits of a mother who puts her child's needs above her own.

wow this was way harsh way to parent shame.. how about if someone was telling you how you parent was wrong? you dont live her life so you dont know what she does or doesn't do ..plus hes a grown man now and he lives with her so how bad a parent was she?????? 

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3 hours ago, charming said:

Erika has a habit of putting down other women and acting like she's "above" them. In her world women are so "awful" that she can only hang out with gay men......who depend on her for a paycheck.  Maybe the "problem" is with Erika not being able to get along with people.

I would put down bitches that make assumptions and start rumors without getting to know me too!

Friendship is earned like trust and which of these vile bitches except Kyle has earned her friendship.

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On ‎12‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 0:50 PM, bichonblitz said:

Yes, she asked that, because she is a shit stirring bitch. We all know what she was implying. Why would she feel the need to bring it up again to LVP and Boy George at her party? I'm not a Rinna fan but fair is fair. Dorit was awful last season but the focus is again on Rinna and how she needs to apologize. 

That bag of pills was mostly vitamins, Rinna was joking around. Jeez. The only one asking questions and gleefully causing doubt was Dorit. 

I was wondering about this during that whole scene.   If we're talking about individual jabs last season Dorit's slams against Rinna VASTLY outnumbered Rinna's jabs against her.  Rinna said ONE thing to Dorit, directly to her face.  Dorit, on the other hand, was running around town talking shit about Rinna and implying she was a drug addict despite knowing damn well she was joking with that bag and with the Xanax smoothie thing to anyone who would listen all season long!  And then for her to flat out deny doing it despite it being aired on the show and having been discussed on the reunion, is beyond.  I'll never understand how these women can deny saying things ON FILM even after watching and discussing it!  It's beyond comprehension.

On ‎12‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 2:16 PM, ghoulina said:

Many viewers were speculating about that bag, so I wouldn't be surprised if her cast mates did too. Is it likely they were just vitamins and supplements? Yes. But she new she was inviting speculation when she did that. 

In her defense, she went through the bag and pointed out what each pill was, didn't she?   I mean, Rinna has done some shady shit that's made me cringe but I still kind of dig her.  She seems pretty damn self aware, which is a hell of a lot more than I can say for most of these women.  Especially Dorit.  I just CANNOT with her.

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On ‎12‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 3:18 PM, WireWrap said:

Actually,  Rinna also claimed that she kept some Xanax pills in that baggie, not just supplements, so, it wasn't a big jump for either Dorit or Eden to question Rinna's sobriety. 

I'm willing to bet at least 80% of these women have a Xanax script.

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1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I am impressed Teeny!

I've always been pretty bendy. Believe me, I'd trade it for some of the other stuff I've lost over the years--my real blond hair, my lack of glasses (maybe; I kind of like them...I just don't like NEEDING them), twiggier upper arms...

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On ‎12‎/‎28‎/‎2017 at 0:35 PM, lunastartron said:

On rewatch, I didn't think that Erika's initial interjection was that big of a deal. But she did get increasingly snide as the conversation (which she initiated) progressed - she certainly would have exhibited zero sense of humor if someone had made that "or not" sneer toward her as she did to Teddi at the end of the discussion. 

I thought it was weird and ersatz of Dorit to so aggressively coddle and kiss Erika's ass with the cooing ("oh, Erika!") display of sympathy while EJ recounted her childhood trauma. 

I want to like Teddi - she has a gorgeous family and I'm interested to hear more from/about Edwin, although I wish he sported a more traditional haircut because it looks kind of greasy and gross. But I do get the impression that she may be just as impressed with herself and as self-mythologizing as Erika Jayne, just in a more low-key fashion. 

To answer a question upthread, I'm not sure that Teddi actually receives payment for her coaching. I took a look at her website a while back and there was no noticeable entry form for payment methods, just a function to upload selfies of one's physique for feedback. 

I'm part of a facebook gossip group and someone actually texted with Teddy's assistant about the accountability and posted screen shots.  She charges $300 for 2 weeks.  You have to agree to one hour of cardio a day and text her proof.  You  have to follow her meal plan exactly and send her pictures of everything you eat and when.  If you mess up in ANY WAY (like, miss one workout or eat one thing off plan) that's it. She cuts you off and keeps the money.  She said THAT'S how she keeps people accountable.

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7 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Erika hangs with all gay guys so she has taken on the social interactions she has seen between them, which is a lot of catty backhanded jabs thats meant in more of a playful fun way but can come across has bitchy...trust me my friends and I do this all the time and always say if someone was listening in and didn't know we were friends they would think we hate each other.. when we are nice to you is when you know we dont like you lol

Here is my issue with Erika saying that hanging with gay guys is the reason her jabs are taken the wrong way, the Real Housewives of Atlanta are just as if not more conversant in gay culture and vernacular than Erika is and those Atlanta bitches can be mean and hilarious in a way that Erika couldn't hope to emulate. Atlanta managed to spin off two of their gay, very femme, costars to a very queer show that managed to be very funny too. Atlanta also goes too damn far too like their weird homophobia and transphobia can make it such an unpleasant show to watch when that shit comes up.

However, Erika isn't funny. She's often being a not so stealth bitch and not in a funny way. I think you aren't giving viewers enough credit to be discerning. I'm a straight woman with a ton of gay friends. I'm the one with the evil mouth. I'm a fairly funny person too. I thought the first and last funny thing Erika ever said was her jab back to Bethenny in her talking head. Since then I've found her to be boring and obvious. Erika's version of being "funny" is to be bitchy or say something barely sexually transgressive in order to shock. The first is high school cheerleader and the second is teenaged boy. I'm not impressed. DSL. Not inherently funny. How many fucks do I give. Not inherently funny. She's not funny. She's hoping that shocking and kind of crass is the new hilarious. It's not. Ask Brandi. So Erika can take her DSL, python like kitty, and writhe her way off screen.

The Aristocrats!

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28 minutes ago, lezlers said:

I'm part of a facebook gossip group and someone actually texted with Teddy's assistant about the accountability and posted screen shots.  She charges $300 for 2 weeks.  You have to agree to one hour of cardio a day and text her proof.  You  have to follow her meal plan exactly and send her pictures of everything you eat and when.  If you mess up in ANY WAY (like, miss one workout or eat one thing off plan) that's it. She cuts you off and keeps the money.  She said THAT'S how she keeps people accountable.

Shit, I can boss someone around for $150/week. I'm going to start advertising in my local buy/sell/trade right away. 

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4 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

And Eileen brought it up at Kyle's house after Erika/Dorit said they were "Ok" with each other. Dorit wasn't the one bring it up, Eileen/Rinna were to keep Erika from knowing that they encouraged Dorit's panty gift, that Eileen was the one to suggest that Erika's accidental exposure was intentional and from knowing that they though the situation was funny. Blame them for "pantygate" dragging out the entire season, not Dorit/PK. 

Yes. Eileen and Rinna kept cracking jokes when they were out with Dorit about it being the new Erika Jayne move "flash the puss" with exaggerated crossing and uncrossing their legs. Eileen and Rinna were terrible and have never owned their part in pantygate.

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2 hours ago, Drumpf1737 said:

oFriendship is earned like trust and which of these vile bitches except Kyle has earned her friendship.

I think the key to becoming friends with Erika is to adopt the saying "slow and steady wins the race."  Teddi mentioned that she may have been trying too hard to be friends with Erika, and realized that she needs to back off a little bit (at least that's what I understood her to say.)   From what Erika has said in the past, and we've seen it happen on the show, she has gotten burned by some of them when they ran and told others what she had said in confidence.  She's also mentioned how the  wives of Tom's co-workers don't like her.   I think Erika likes to sit back and observe people before letting them get too close (I can relate to that!)  However, if a person is too closed off, then he/she can come across as aloof and distant.  I can see where Teddi didn't get the friendship vibe from her.  Maybe it'll get better over time.  We know the routine with newbies on the housewives shows:  they're either mocked or ridiculed about something; then the newbie cries and tells their sad life story;  the group crying begins; everybody hugs and all is right with the world - well, until one of them accuses the other of being a coke head!!  

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