S08.E02: Diva Las Vegas

[Sweet-tea]

21 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

I have no problem with Dorit pretending to not remember PK calling Rinna those names because Rinna fully earned every last one of them with that coke shit she pulled with Dorit last season. Fuq that bitch. Pulling that accusation out of nowhere did make me wonder if Rinna had a mental illness or a drug problem.

Rinna looked drunk to me when she said that. It seemed like something she blurted out when her filter was compromised (by alcohol). Most of the trouble these women get into happens when they are drinking and or drunk. 

Watching Rinna in her TH with her overdone makeup and freakish lips reminded me of what NOT to do to my face... ever.  Her fake laughing (usually at herself) also gets on my nerves. 

Did Adrienne say anything after hello? I barely even saw her. I didn't see enough of her face to assess whether she's gone too far or not. 

Edited December 28, 2017 by Sweet-tea

[WireWrap]

17 minutes ago, Sweet-tea said:

Rinna looked drunk to me when she said that. It seemed like something she blurted out when her filter was compromised (by alcohol). Most of the trouble these women get into happens when they are drinking and or drunk. 

Watching Rinna in her TH with her overdone makeup and freakish lips reminded me of what NOT to do to my face... ever.  Her fake laughing (usually at herself) also gets on my nerves. 

Did Adrienne say anything after hello? I barely even saw her. I didn't see enough of her face to assess whether she's gone too far or not. 

Rinna repeated her coke accusation at the reunion, so alcohol was not the cause of her nasty comment.

[JAYJAY1979]

2 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Before Erica was ever cast her primary audience was the gay community, her schtick predates her HW career.

 

This is the truth... pre-RHOBH.. she would perform at gay festivals especially Pride Fest and Market Days in Chicago during the summer months.  So I knew of her before she joined the show and everyone I know in Chicago that's a gay male absolutely loves her.. and I'm like 'she's all yours'.

[Martinigirl]

7 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Yes, she asked that, because she is a shit stirring bitch. We all know what she was implying. Why would she feel the need to bring it up again to LVP and Boy George at her party? I'm not a Rinna fan but fair is fair. Dorit was awful last season but the focus is again on Rinna and how she needs to apologize. 

That bag of pills was mostly vitamins, Rinna was joking around. Jeez. The only one asking questions and gleefully causing doubt was Dorit. 

I have a sneaky feeling that Kyle may be the shit stirring bitch this season. She can't stop re-telling the Harry on a hike story BUT she said he ignored her when she said hi. Why didn't she just keep moving on? Sounds like she def said something to Harry first. 

[CrinkleCutCat]

On 27/12/2017 at 1:43 PM, Straycat80 said:

She should stop wearing strapless dresses too, she kept hiking up the front of her dress every two minutes. 

I thought she was going to smother Rinna with them! OO

Edited December 28, 2017 by CrinkleCutCat

[jaybird2]

9 hours ago, Thumper said:

I felt like some of the other HWs were trying to get all chummy with Erika, and I don't know why.  

probably because andy cohen loves her.  he loves the trashy, vile, overt sexual ones.  the more outrageous the more he loves them 

[zoeysmom]

49 minutes ago, Sweet-tea said:

Rinna looked drunk to me when she said that. It seemed like something she blurted out when her filter was compromised (by alcohol). Most of the trouble these women get into happens when they are drinking and or drunk. 

Watching Rinna in her TH with her overdone makeup and freakish lips reminded me of what NOT to do to my face... ever.  Her fake laughing (usually at herself) also gets on my nerves. 

 

Rinna is extremely calculated. . . bragging how she brings it.  Unfortunately she is now trying to be Kris Jenner and momager her daughters into super careers and has had to reflect upon how she has become universally disliked.  Rinna also competes with her daughters and does all the stupid bikini selfies and has her mug in way too many shots that should be devoted to promoting their careers-those lips of hers are just awful and freakish.  The first season she got a gift in an under the influence Kim Richards and the limo ride but she could not leave well enough alone.  She continually creates drama.

I find it laughable when some who is as divisive as Rinna declares a clean slate and moving on.  Rinna has apparently forgotten how she behaved at the Reunion last year the squawk box with "fuck off" telling Dorit to shut up, stop talking (when questions were directed at she or PK) and finally the overly dramatic yet again walk off.  Rinna and idiot Harry made a conscious choice to gift Kim with the stupid bunny after Rinna had said she would not speak of Kim.  Kim once again handed Rinna an opportunity to be a martyr but there was just no way the return of the bunny should have caused the reaction Rinna put out there.  For Harry to continue his campaign against Kim was just so sad.  What a desperate sad, little man to go after Kyle and demand she once again cut Kim out.  

42 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

I have a sneaky feeling that Kyle may be the shit stirring bitch this season. She can't stop re-telling the Harry on a hike story BUT she said he ignored her when she said hi. Why didn't she just keep moving on? Sounds like she def said something to Harry first. 

Harry is an ass through and through.  Rinna was backpedaling at the Reunion trying to get Kyle to  continue the friendship.  A little Harry goes a long ways.  He is the most unaware human on the planet.  Last year he was blithering about all Rinna had ever done is try and help Kim.  

Rinna and Harry blame Kim for humiliating Rinna at the Reunion.  I am sure foul mouth Rinna left out the part where she was her usual crude, rude filthy mouthed  self.  I thought what was telling was the fact the Reunion filmed in March and filming resumed in July for Season 8, and Rinna had not taken the time to call or contact Kyle.  Kyle made it fairly clear she did not appreciate Rinna's behavior towards her sister and it had an impact on their friendship.  Instead we get from Rinna how much she and Harry love Kyle.  Just another bunch of Rinna BS.  Rinna looked the vulgar fool she is and LVP, Dorit and Kyle had no desire to make nice with her after the Reunion.  Kyle, LVP and Dorit continued their friendship.

I thought Kyle handled it pretty well-she told Rinna she had been discussing the conversation between she and Harry with the others.  Rinna as usual, had some non-responsive confessional.

I just hate the idea of Rinna being at the helm this season with her nose firmly up Erika rear end.  Of course more back story on Erika Jayne-we heard it last year,.  Bravo apparently believes we need more pieces to the puzzle that is Erika. Let's move on to the Mellencamp chick.  

[MsTree]

18 hours ago, TomGirl said:

I'm trying to watch some women spend money and act like assholes. I am not interested in watching anything that looks normal to 99% of us. This is Beverly Hills. 

I actually wouldn't mind "normal" once in a while, because I'm really getting tired of all the shouting and backbiting.

[AttackTurtle]

I’m not an Erika fan and she was downright rude to Teddi.  I think Erika may be a tad jealous of the new girl.  Her dad was a huge deal back in his heyday.  Teddi, if to be believed didn’t live off his dime (although the name couldn’t hurt).  Her dad dates Meg Ryan and is genuinely respected for his contributions to Farm Aid.  Erika had to marry a guy decades older than her to get the funding for her “music”.  I was pissed when Erika cut Teddi off because I wanted to hear more about Teddi’s upbringing.

[gundysgirl]

8 hours ago, jaybird2 said:

probably because andy cohen loves her.  he loves the trashy, vile, overt sexual ones.  the more outrageous the more he loves them 

I don't think it is about Andy liking her. Kyle came to really like Erika at the beginning of last season and I doubt she is influenced by what Andy thinks. 

I think that for whatever reason the gals actually just like her, or want to get to know her better. Eileen loved her immediately, and Rinna shortly after that. Kyle was a huge fan of hers last season, and while Erika and Dorit didn't hit it off, Dorit seemed to long to be friends with Erika for whatever reason. Remember how exhausting it was the way Dorit was constantly pestering Erika about why they hadn't connected, how they could be friends, etc.? Maybe it was just Dorit being fake - something I think she can be skilled at - but she seemed to want to find a way to build a friendship with Erika. And then there is Vanderpump. I thought all along that they would at some point be friends. Erika is the only HW I can remember who didn't seem to seek LVP's approval or friendship. She has been fairly uninterested in getting any stamp of approval from LVP. I actually think at the end of the day that LVP likes this. That it makes her respect her more because she isn't sucking up.  I think they will come to be friends. 

[janie2002]

44 minutes ago, gundysgirl said:

I don't think it is about Andy liking her. Kyle came to really like Erika at the beginning of last season and I doubt she is influenced by what Andy thinks. 

I think that for whatever reason the gals actually just like her, or want to get to know her better. Eileen loved her immediately, and Rinna shortly after that. Kyle was a huge fan of hers last season, and while Erika and Dorit didn't hit it off, Dorit seemed to long to be friends with Erika for whatever reason. Remember how exhausting it was the way Dorit was constantly pestering Erika about why they hadn't connected, how they could be friends, etc.? Maybe it was just Dorit being fake - something I think she can be skilled at - but she seemed to want to find a way to build a friendship with Erika. And then there is Vanderpump. I thought all along that they would at some point be friends. Erika is the only HW I can remember who didn't seem to seek LVP's approval or friendship. She has been fairly uninterested in getting any stamp of approval from LVP. I actually think at the end of the day that LVP likes this. That it makes her respect her more because she isn't sucking up.  I think they will come to be friends. 

I can see this, she is so aloof it must be intriguing. However I don't think there is much to her after she thaws towards you.

[snarts]

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II have a theory  that Erica's and Dorit's glam squads have placed bets with each other regarding who can make their client look more ridiculous.  Erica's is winning, but Dorit's is not far behind.

I love this idea.  It certainly would make my utter hate for Mikey burn just a slight bit cooler.

12 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Rinna repeated her coke accusation at the reunion, so alcohol was not the cause of her nasty comment.

This. Rinna was awful at the reunion. I don't blame Dorit (or any of the others) for being overly cautious around her.  

7 hours ago, MsTree said:

I actually wouldn't mind "normal" once in a while, because I'm really getting tired of all the shouting and backbiting.

Me too. I love for a season without a ton of shouting.

[Keywestclubkid]

6 hours ago, AttackTurtle said:

I’m not an Erika fan and she was downright rude to Teddi.  I think Erika may be a tad jealous of the new girl.  Her dad was a huge deal back in his heyday.  Teddi, if to be believed didn’t live off his dime (although the name couldn’t hurt).  Her dad dates Meg Ryan and is genuinely respected for his contributions to Farm Aid.  Erika had to marry a guy decades older than her to get the funding for her “music”.  I was pissed when Erika cut Teddi off because I wanted to hear more about Teddi’s upbringing.

Erika didn't cut teddy off though she asked about her father Erika answered saying she never knew her dad the other girls where oh thats sad what happened.... it wasn't like Erika cut her off mid sentence and took over she was asked and elaborated on it...........

Honestly I think Teddy wont fit in with this group because she isnt has over the top has the other girls the whole not spending money on gambling  part was awkward (i get why she didnt spend money) however in this group of OVERLY wealthy women that is going to become a drag really quick

[psychoticstate]

Well, I'm thrilled to see that Dorit's fake accent is back in the cast.   It must be exhausting to try and remember to put on a British accent all the time (which may explain why Dorit's comes and goes.)  

When Dorit had her "clear the air" with LisaR, I couldn't take my eyes off her hooters.  Good Lord, they are distracting.  I actually like Dorit's lob cut but her stylists (or should I say "stylists") should be fired ASAP.  Strapless does not do her any favors.  And those pajamas were bizarre.  Maybe it was combo-ing them with the matching headband?   Her pajamas made Erika's oh-so-green tracksuit look not so bad.  And strangely, Erika's tracksuit made Dorit's pajamas look not so bad.  Mission accomplished? 

Speaking of Erika, I liked her when she first joined the show but now?  STFU, Erika.  I know you think you're amazing and all but really, just STFU.  If not knowing your father/having your father while growing up wasn't a big deal to you, why did you hijack a conversation from Teddi and turn it into something about you not having your father?   Like several others here, I would much rather hear about Teddi's upbringing with John Mellencamp.  I grew up with his music so it would be fascinating to me.  And I'm happy/relieved/thrilled to hear from Teddi that he was/is a normal guy basically.  

I like Teddi.  Which I hope doesn't mean that a second face will appear on her by the end of this season or starting next season, should she return.  I appreciate that she appreciated winning $800 in the casino (I'd be screaming like a loon  - I've been ecstatic over a $200 win) and didn't want to turn around and throw it back on the table a la Dorit and Erika.  I felt like Dorit and Erika were making fun of Teddi (I guess because she didn't marry for money and isn't blowing a rich older guy for coin to toss around.) 

I've always liked LisaR (the cheese stands alone).  I wonder if the LisaR we see on the show is the real LisaR or a character she's playing to keep her place on the show.  After all, she either needs to stir the pot and/or be directly involved in some kind of conflict.  Regardless, her kids do seem like snotty little brats.  I'd much rather see LisaR with her QVC (or is it HSN?) work and interacting with the family's dog.

Kyle probably shouldn't be telling everyone else about Harry Hamlin and the hike.  Day after the reunion, I don't really blame him.  If Kim didn't want to keep LisaR's gift of the bunny, freaking donate it.  It would be pretty hurtful to return it so again, I don't blame him saying something (although Kyle isn't responsible for what Kim does and does not do.)  By the same token, LisaR isn't responsible for what Harry Hamlin does and does not do.  

Adrienne . . . didn't miss her, her "return" did nothing for me. 

Always happy to see Camille.  She and LisaR have looked the best, so far, fashion-wise.

No matter how snippy LisaV might be, or how fussy her clothing might be, I will always love her and lust after her lifestyle.

Oh, and just in case . . . STFU Erika! 

[zoeysmom]

4 hours ago, gundysgirl said:

I don't think it is about Andy liking her. Kyle came to really like Erika at the beginning of last season and I doubt she is influenced by what Andy thinks. 

I think that for whatever reason the gals actually just like her, or want to get to know her better. Eileen loved her immediately, and Rinna shortly after that. Kyle was a huge fan of hers last season, and while Erika and Dorit didn't hit it off, Dorit seemed to long to be friends with Erika for whatever reason. Remember how exhausting it was the way Dorit was constantly pestering Erika about why they hadn't connected, how they could be friends, etc.? Maybe it was just Dorit being fake - something I think she can be skilled at - but she seemed to want to find a way to build a friendship with Erika. And then there is Vanderpump. I thought all along that they would at some point be friends. Erika is the only HW I can remember who didn't seem to seek LVP's approval or friendship. She has been fairly uninterested in getting any stamp of approval from LVP. I actually think at the end of the day that LVP likes this. That it makes her respect her more because she isn't sucking up.  I think they will come to be friends. 

Erika came on with her sights set on LVP and some kind of grand plan to dethrone her.  Both Erika and her sad husband went after LVP with great gusto.  Initially it was inviting Ken and LVP out to dinner and then over to dinner.  Of course insulting her right out the gate probably didn;t sit well with LVP.  Erika was screaming at Rinna at her BBQ demanding she name the person who claimed Yolanda had Munchausen's.  So at the end of her first season Erika had Yolanda (who was essentially part time) and Eileen in her camp.   Yolanda despised Kyle, LVP and for good reason Rinna .   Erika seemed very influenced by Yolanda and little miffed Kathryn repeated horrible things she said about LVP to LVP and then accused Kathryn of ruining any attempts of friendship with LVP.   So it did matter at some point to Erika she develop a friendship and approval with LVP.  There is a big difference between trying to get someone's approval and destroying them.  What was amazing was Erika was so quick to forgive Rinna when she was the one who publicized the speculation about Yolanda and Munchausen's.  Although I will admit Rinna can do a superlative job of ass kissing.  I do think Erika realized she may have gone to far at the Reunion with her carrying on about PK and Dorit-they are friends of LVP's  and Kyle's and Erika was rough.

I think Dorit said one time they had not connected (gee Dorit do you think it could have been the gift of panties?), in Hong Kong.   Dorit just never recovered from that blunder.  I don't think Erika is any more real than Dorit-they both definitely have issues with being genuine.   Dorit's biggest problem her first season is she just talked too damn much.  Repeating the bag of pills story was lame-Boy George and LVP both told her so.   I do think Dorit went overboard in the party department to begin her first season.   I also believe Erika is giving Dorit another chance because she wants to appear with Boy George.  Dorit always seems to me as if she has some self-imposed duty to ramp up the extravagant lifestyle for the show.  We get it-collectively these women lead very expensive, lavish lifestyles-Dorit does not need to narrate.

Edited December 28, 2017 by zoeysmom

[WireWrap]

52 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Erika didn't cut teddy off though she asked about her father Erika answered saying she never knew her dad the other girls where oh thats sad what happened.... it wasn't like Erika cut her off mid sentence and took over she was asked and elaborated on it...........

Honestly I think Teddy wont fit in with this group because she isnt has over the top has the other girls the whole not spending money on gambling  part was awkward (i get why she didnt spend money) however in this group of OVERLY wealthy women that is going to become a drag really quick

Teddy was asked about her dad, not Erika, then Teddy made a general comment to all of the women, that her dad was like their dads. Erika threw it out that she didn't know her dad to focus the attention/camera on her and off Teddy. 

[heatherchandler]

20 hours ago, Kokapetl said:

Adrienne’s family lost all but like 2 percent of their casino to the creditors. 

 

Oooh I did not hear about that.  

 

18 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

But think of Patsy's old modeling modeling/groupie days, hahahhahaha! And, yay--"SweetieDarling"!

 

When she was hanging with Mick and the boys!

[Baltimore Betty]

21 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Teddy was asked about her dad, not Erika, then Teddy made a general comment to all of the women, that her dad was like their dads. Erika threw it out that she didn't know her dad to focus the attention/camera on her and off Teddy. 

Well, you don't know what she goes thru every night...oh wait that was about something else...Erika has a habit of taking the rhetoric and making it all about her.  

[Miss Bones]

On ‎12‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 0:18 AM, HunterHunted said:

 

I find Erika's Harajuku Poodle talking head look to be completely atrocious.

Harajuku Poodle!  Hahahaha!  That is spot on!

On ‎12‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 8:45 AM, ghoulina said:

Kyle and the magnifying glass was EVERYTHING. She kills me. 

 

 Rinna mentions her daughters being in NYC and Dorit turns to Erika, "Isn't raising BOYS great?" Give it a fucking rest. 

 

Thank you for reminding me of the magnifying glass.  I thought that was so cute and I laughed out loud when she busted it out.

 

And regarding Dorit saying that to Erika about raising boys, what was that supposed to mean anyway??  Erika barely raised her kid from what I understand--which is beside the point--but Dorit has a daughter, too....so why was she acting like she only has a boy?    I guess she was just being an asshole, but I actually had to rewind there, because I thought I missed something, but a rewind did nothing to clear it up for me-- I was just confused by the comment.

[Keywestclubkid]

57 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Teddy was asked about her dad, not Erika, then Teddy made a general comment to all of the women, that her dad was like their dads. Erika threw it out that she didn't know her dad to focus the attention/camera on her and off Teddy. 

re watch it teddy ask Erika about her dad some off the cuff what would you say to your dad thing and Erika says I  didn't know him ....she didnt hijack teddy's moment.... Honestly I could care less about this Just she didnt make the camera cut back to her she answered the question and the other girls asked her to elaborate......

Edited December 28, 2017 by Keywestclubkid

[kassa]

On 12/27/2017 at 10:14 AM, njbchlover said:

When Teddi was explaining what she does as an "accountability coach", I still didn't get it.  So, people actually pay her to remind them to work out, eat healthily, stay on their fitness plan/regimen?  They pay her to call/text them little motivational sayings that they could easily just ask Alexa (Amazon Echo) or Google Home to recite for them?Seriously, when P.T. Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute", he must have been foretelling the future in Beverly Hills, where people have so much money they can throw it away on stupid stuff like this.

Where can I get a job like that?  And, how much does it pay?  

My guess is she's a housewife, but she doesn't want to appear to "just" be a housewife, so she needed something to declare as her "thing."  And she's a supportive nag to a bunch of friends who have told her in the past that "you ought to do this for a living" and with the opportunity of the show she decided that maybe she can actually translate what she considers a skill into an actual business venture of some sort - Accountability Maven.  That said, I like her, and her reactions to what's going on around her are pretty similar to what mine would be, so I have high hopes.  The shots of her riding made it look like... she's not very good?  I'm not a horsewoman but I have friends who are and that's not what they look like when they jump.  ??

I'm enjoying Kyle and her new comfort with her increasing wealth.  And I want the travel porn, so I hope we see at least part of her family vacation.

Rinna is Rinna (and that talking head look was a huge mistake), but she's here to do a job, and that job is whatever the producers require at any given time. As much as Erika claims to not give a fuck, it's Rinna who truly has no fucks to give -- she's here for the paycheck and QVC promotion.  Erika is cold blooded and controlling, and in fact I enjoy it, because I'm much the same.  Not that we're hardhearted, just that casual expressions of our inner thoughts and feelings are not natural to us outside of the most inner circle.   I love her natural, classic makeup -- can't stand the blow up doll lips and hair.

Much has been said about Andy Cohen's attention to Erika -- I suspect some of it is a deliberate check on Lisa VanderPump and her status as RHBH Queen Bee.  I think Kyle will always be last woman standing on that franchise, and Lisa is looking increasingly dowdy. If she continues the talking head superiority complex and lame sexual innuendo (especially regarding pets) it will be yet another year of same old, same old.  When your whole persona on the show is commenting on other people, it's not a good sign, and she hasn't brought a lot to the table for a while.  I don't follow her spinoff, so maybe what she's doing works there, but I think she could probably take a season off RHBH and not a whole lot would be lost.

Dorit.. was there.  Oh, she was a condescending bitch to Rinna, who stood and took her punishment, but Dorit was the one who came off worse.  

[WireWrap]

9 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

re watch it teddy ask Erika about her dad some off the cuff what would you say to your dad thing and Erika says I  didn't know him ....she didnt hijack teddy's moment.... Honestly I could care less about this Just she didnt make the camera cut back to her she answered the question and the other girls asked her to elaborate......

No one "asked" Erika about her dad, Teddy made a general comment to Dorit (who was sitting beside Erika), who had asked about JCM, that he was "like everyone else's dad". Erika jumped in and made her comment without being asked. 

[Keywestclubkid]

Just now, WireWrap said:

No one "asked" Erika about her dad, Teddy made a general comment to Dorit (who was sitting beside Erika), who had asked about JCM, that he was "like everyone else's dad". Erika jumped in and made her comment without being asked. 

oh for the love of god she ANSWERD a question Teddy asked was she not allowed to do that? so did she ask dorit or did she ask the group you are confusing me now ....

again this makes no difference to me just i think its funny that one would assume Erika would be so good at calculating how to get the conversation back to her IF teddy was so interesting and had a bigger personality she would be fine in this group but again shes not i dont see her lasting

[TattleTeeny]

58 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

When she was hanging with Mick and the boys!

I am laughing all by myself picturing her poses and faces!

[WireWrap]

Just now, Keywestclubkid said:

oh for the love of god she ANSWERD a question Teddy asked was she not allowed to do that? so did she ask dorit or did she ask the group you are confusing me now ....

Dorit asked Teddy about her dad, specifically Teddy, not the other women. Teddy answered by saying that he was "like their dad's" (aka/normal) and Erika chimed in out of nowhere by saying that she didn't "know her dad". No one asked Erika, or the others about their dads, just Dorit asking Teddy. LOL

[Keywestclubkid]

7 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Dorit asked Teddy about her dad, specifically Teddy, not the other women. Teddy answered by saying that he was "like their dad's" (aka/normal) and Erika chimed in out of nowhere by saying that she didn't "know her dad". No one asked Erika, or the others about their dads, just Dorit asking Teddy. LOL

erika chims in and says you arnt defined by who your parents are you are your own person....Teddy says that be like someone asking me how is it growing up with your dad ..erika says well i dont know him......Then the other girls ask her to elaborate.... again teddy doesn't have a strong personality and fades into the background this isnt round robin where everyone gets a turn to speak and no one else talks when they do... again i'll say it teddy isnt like the other girls in the group and his more reserved and not as outgoing....

Edited December 28, 2017 by Keywestclubkid

[TattleTeeny]

Eh, it was a group conversation and people in group conversations often interject. While I personally think it was a conversational misstep that was a bit too much for the time and place, I thought she seemed kind of blasé and casual about it before it took a more serious turn than she'd intended.

[Keywestclubkid]

2 minutes ago, TattleTeeny said:

Eh, it was a group conversation and people in group conversations often interject. While I personally think it was a conversational misstep that was a bit too much for the time and place, I thought she seemed kind of blasé and casual about it before it took a more serious turn than she'd intended.

Thank you..........

[janie2002]

17 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

No one "asked" Erika about her dad, Teddy made a general comment to Dorit (who was sitting beside Erika), who had asked about JCM, that he was "like everyone else's dad". Erika jumped in and made her comment without being asked. 

She made the moment awkward AF for everyone.  I agree Teddy was just saying her dad is like everyone elses, they are just dad not a famous guy.  Erika took a moment that was suppose to introduce more about Teddy to the ladies and made it about herself. There is no way to get that attention back because then Teddy would look like an AHole.

 

I liked that Teddy later told Dorit, Erika made her feel insecure then she thought hold up I'm a grown ass woman I'm not going to let her do that to me. It showed self awareness to me. 

[WireWrap]

1 minute ago, Keywestclubkid said:

erika chims in and says you arnt defined by who your parents are you are your own person....Teddy says that be like someone asking me how is it growing up with your dad ..erika says well i dont know him......Then the other girls ask her to elaborate.... again teddy doesn't have a strong personality and fades into the background this isnt round robin where everyone gets a turn to speak and no one else talks when they do....

No, Dorit asked Teddy what it was like growing up with JCM as her father, Teddy answered her that he was "like their fathers", Erika then chimes in that she didn't know her father growing up and that parents don't define you. It was at that point that the others asked Erika questions but not before. Erika even admitted she was being "bitchy" to Teddy when she did that.

3 minutes ago, janie2002 said:

She made the moment awkward AF for everyone.  I agree Teddy was just saying her dad is like everyone elses, they are just dad not a famous guy.  Erika took a moment that was suppose to introduce more about Teddy to the ladies and made it about herself. There is no way to get that attention back because then Teddy would look like an AHole.

 

I liked that Teddy later told Dorit, Erika made her feel insecure then she thought hold up I'm a grown ass woman I'm not going to let her do that to me. It showed self awareness to me. 

Exactly! It was a calculated move by Erika to get the cameras/attention on her and away from the newbie, Teddy.

[WireWrap]

8 minutes ago, TattleTeeny said:

Eh, it was a group conversation and people in group conversations often interject. While I personally think it was a conversational misstep that was a bit too much for the time and place, I thought she seemed kind of blasé and casual about it before it took a more serious turn than she'd intended.

It wasn't a group discussion about their childhoods, it was supposed to be when the HWs/all of us get to learn more about Teddy otherwise Dorit would have made the question a general one about all of their dads but she only asked Teddy about her famous father.

[TattleTeeny]

So everyone sitting there should have behaved as if they were watching a play, then? I don't get this at all. But I really don't care--it's one of those "if you hate Housewife X, she can't possibly eat, breathe, or sleep correctly" things. Some of us just don't see a big deal or nefarious attention-grabbing plots in this father business.

[WireWrap]

6 minutes ago, TattleTeeny said:

So everyone sitting there should have behaved as if they were watching a play, then? I don't get this at all. But I really don't care--it's one of those "if you hate Housewife X, she can't possibly eat, breathe, or sleep correctly" things. Some of us just don't see a big deal or nefarious attention-grabbing plots in this father business.

No, not at all. This was their chance to get to know Teddy but Erika made it all about her instead. Even Erika admitted she was "being bitchy" with her comment. And, I don't think everything Erika says/does is wrong.

[jaync]

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We saw her [Adrienne] for a millisecond.

Which was more than enough!

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And regarding Dorit saying that to Erika about raising boys, what was that supposed to mean anyway?? 

Beats me, because it's not like Erika knows what it's like to raise a son. 

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And saying it’s not a huge deal to her that she grew up without a dad. Riiiiiiiiiiight. Sure Erika!

She has to say that, lest anyone think it matters to her own child that she abandoned him.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

On 12/27/2017 at 0:34 PM, Wings said:

It is clear she has NOT changed.  Her pronouncement that she is going to be nice said it all.  She is going to "act" nice this season.  Well, that remains to be seen.  She made no mention of being sorry for past behavior and had an epiphany.  She is just going to try out a new personality.  

This re LVP. I am not drinking the LVP Kool-Aid I cannot stand Lisa. She Has zero self awareness, and is completely insulated from reality by her money and her husband. I feel sorry for her son, for the adoration she showers on her daughter and the guilt and manipulation she shades her son with because she doesn’t know what else to do to fix him. Some self awareness would help her son and his struggles and their relationship. 99% of my problem with Kyle is she is LVP’s wingman . Kyle will get mad respect if she ever turns around to LVP and says I’m not your bitch, bitch! But that will never happen Kyle is a total starfucker. LVP will always get a pass. 

3 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Honestly I think Teddy wont fit in with this group because she isnt has over the top has the other girls the whole not spending money on gambling  part was awkward (i get why she didnt spend money) however in this group of OVERLY wealthy women that is going to become a drag really quick

Teddy has, guaranteed, spent six figures on a single show horse. Many times. Her horses have dentists and chiropractors. The show attire she wears is all custom made, saddle alone is $4-6k and the riding boots a similar price. She paid a braider $200 a day to put braids in her horse just to be taken out later.  Horse  bills make gambling look like child’s play! She has the dough she spends it with integrity. On what is meaningful to her.  She came to play I love her and In the A circuit horse world she puts her pants on one leg at a time, yet can run with the big dogs with these housewives . I am dying to see what she is capable of with these women !

I predict she will set these ladies down just like she did with Erika . There was no way back in to the father convo so she shut up and let Erika show her own ass, which Erika totally walked into. She was trying to shame Teddi into making assumptions/one upping Teddi and instead Erika looked bad. Erika is seething. She’s going to come for Teddi in retaliation. But, Teddi is smart. Keep watching ! 

Dorito is every bit as ridiculous as last year and more. That accent. So gross. 

LVP needs to cut her hair! Omg. Jackie Collins territory . It so ages her. 

[ghoulina]

19 hours ago, howiveaddict said:

II have a theory  that Erica's and Dorit's glam squads have placed bets with each other regarding who can make their client look more ridiculous.  Erica's is winning, but Dorit's is not far behind.

Hahahaha, I LOVE this theory. I will now watch their fashion choices as a contest, it will be a lot more fun. 

[ghoulina]

2 hours ago, Missbones said:

And regarding Dorit saying that to Erika about raising boys, what was that supposed to mean anyway??  Erika barely raised her kid from what I understand--which is beside the point--but Dorit has a daughter, too....so why was she acting like she only has a boy?    I guess she was just being an asshole, but I actually had to rewind there, because I thought I missed something, but a rewind did nothing to clear it up for me-- I was just confused by the comment.

It was a confusing comment. And I had the same thoughts, especially about Dorit - you have a daughter too! But, just based on how she'd been acting since Rinna showed up, I assumed she was grasping at straws; any way to make a dig about Rinna. So Rinna's talking about her girls running wild in NYC and Dorit tries to make a snub about how raising boys is better/easier? It definitely fell a bit flat, but that's what I got from it. I've got no love for Rinna, but Dorit's repeated comments made her look very insecure and juvenile. 

 

2 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

oh for the love of god she ANSWERD a question Teddy asked was she not allowed to do that? so did she ask dorit or did she ask the group you are confusing me now ....

Just me, but I saw it as more of a rhetorical question. It didn't need an answer, from anyone. She was just making a point - to the entire group - about how being raised by HER dad was no different than being raised by any of THEIR dads. Erika was sitting right next to her, so her gaze may have fallen on Erika as she made her point, but Erika should have had the sense not to take it so personally and literally. 

[TattleTeeny]

Agreed! It was kind of heavy for night on the town--with a relative stranger, to boot--to drop that bit of knowledge, especially since her friends (or "friends") didn't seem to have a clue about it either!

[lunastartron]

On rewatch, I didn't think that Erika's initial interjection was that big of a deal. But she did get increasingly snide as the conversation (which she initiated) progressed - she certainly would have exhibited zero sense of humor if someone had made that "or not" sneer toward her as she did to Teddi at the end of the discussion. 

I thought it was weird and ersatz of Dorit to so aggressively coddle and kiss Erika's ass with the cooing ("oh, Erika!") display of sympathy while EJ recounted her childhood trauma. 

I want to like Teddi - she has a gorgeous family and I'm interested to hear more from/about Edwin, although I wish he sported a more traditional haircut because it looks kind of greasy and gross. But I do get the impression that she may be just as impressed with herself and as self-mythologizing as Erika Jayne, just in a more low-key fashion. 

To answer a question upthread, I'm not sure that Teddi actually receives payment for her coaching. I took a look at her website a while back and there was no noticeable entry form for payment methods, just a function to upload selfies of one's physique for feedback. 

Edited December 28, 2017 by lunastartron

[Miss Bones]

25 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

 I've got no love for Rinna, but Dorit's repeated comments made her look very insecure and juvenile.  

Same.   For me, choosing between Rinna and Dorit for the title of which I like/dislike more would be like choosing death either by fire or by drowning--Not sure which is the lesser of two evils--but the repeated comments were overkill.  I'm not buying Rinna's "I've changed" act, but Dorit made herself look extremely petty.

Edited December 28, 2017 by Missbones

[gundysgirl]

I am surprised that no one has mentioned how strangely edited the conversation between Teddi and Erika was. It made no real sense, although you could get the point. 

Dorit asks Teddi what it was like growing up with her father.

Teddi says "Honestly, I would't have ever known the difference if I hadn't moved to LA. He's very laid back and Chill."

To which Erika responds, "Well, you're not defined by your parents. You are your own person". Huh? What does that have to do with what Teddi just said? It makes no sense in response to what we just heard Teddi say, yet it seemed to make total sense in response to whatever we didn't hear said because Dorit is nodding like crazy and saying, "no, not at all". 

Then Teddi says "to me this conversation would be the same as "how was it growing up with your dad", said looking straight at Erika.  Again, that wouldn't be how someone would respond to what Erika just said about not being defined by your parents. 

The entire exchange was just strange, and clearly we only saw small snippets of what they were discussing. The others didn't look uncomfortable to me in the least, however. They looked riveted by Erika's story. Much more so than I thought the story deserved. Didn't we already know she didn't have a relationship with her father? The others were acting like this was the most shocking thing they had ever heard. It was all kind of strange but I didn't see any evidence of Erika trying to take the focus away from Teddi. 

Edited December 28, 2017 by gundysgirl

[Miss Bones]

6 minutes ago, gundysgirl said:

The others didn't look uncomfortable to me in the least, however. They looked riveted by Erika's story. Much more so than I thought the story deserved. Didn't we already know she didn't have a relationship with her father? The others were acting like this was the most shocking thing they had ever heard.

This is exactly how I felt about the whole father conversation.  Was this really BRAND NEW information to the ladies?  At first I was wondering if the whole record-skip/crickets-chirping type pause they all took after Erika came out with "I don't know my father" was because they thought it inappropriate for her to "hijack" the conversation (as some are saying) from Teddi, but then as she continued, they were all giving her a sympathetic ear.  So, I guess it was shock...?  It was all very strange, and now that you mention it, it did not make a whole lot of sense.

[hoodooznoodooz]

On 12/27/2017 at 4:01 PM, Wings said:

On WWHL, Andy asked Erika what kind of lip she would wear to a gathering of her husband's co workers.  She said it would depend on who is coming, implying that she would wear a DSL if she didn't like them.  That is incredibly immature and a downright lie.  She was just trying to be the the cool girl rebel.   I doubt his co workers care about Erika's lipstick.   Who knows if Tom even includes her in work gatherings.  He may since he is very proud of having a "babe" for a wife but probably not. 

I would LOVE to see more gatherings with both Tom and LVP present and watch some fire works ensue!  

My theory only: Erika would love to show up at a law firm-related event, and all the other wives would glare at her and think, "Could that dress possibly be any tighter?" or "Great.. My husband will be thinking of her again, the next time he's supposedly having sex with me." But she would be so offended and angry if the other wives laughed amongst themselves, "Surprise, surprise. Tom Girardi's wife showed up again looking like a blow-up doll. You just know she refused to leave the house unless her lips had achieved a minimum-level of I-want-to-suck-someone's-dick-tonight quality."  

[Dahlia]

On 2017-12-27 at 7:50 AM, ChitChat said:

 

I thought Camille looked stunning in that pink dress she wore on the ferris wheel.  She is very careful to stay out of the drama, except for the comment about Rinna not having her backup, Eileen - which I thought was funny.  

 

I agree!!!  She looked incredible  - I couldn’t take my eyes off that dress. Neon fuchsia amongst all the other  darker outfits and her tan!?!  Wow. 

I’ve always been a Camille fan and I’m so glad she’s back.

[WireWrap]

37 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

My theory only: Erika would love to show up at a law firm-related event, and all the other wives would glare at her and think, "Could that dress possibly be any tighter?" or "Great.. My husband will be thinking of her again, the next time he's supposedly having sex with me." But she would be so offended and angry if the other wives laughed amongst themselves, "Surprise, surprise. Tom Girardi's wife showed up again looking like a blow-up doll. You just know she refused to leave the house unless her lips had achieved a minimum-level of I-want-to-suck-someone's-dick-tonight quality."  

Worse yet, that they treat her as any other wife (not something 'special/different")! LOL

[janie2002]

SO side note i agree LisaV's hair needs a change but I cant for the life of my think of a hairstyle that would suit her.

[snarts]

Erika said what she did to get the attention back on her and off the new girl.  She often says outrageous things to force people to react and focus on her.  It's lame.

[LIMOM]

WTH happened to Adrienne?

[noveltylibrary]

23 hours ago, NeverLate said:

I think so, for some reason they think we all love her..I dont. yuck! :( Her memoir , seriously, ? you left a kid to find a sugar daddy to fund your sort of dancing singing career,The end

And btw she didn't 'marry her father' because Tom's much older?  Umm ok...thanks for clarifying!  What a dipshit.

[noveltylibrary]

7 hours ago, psychoticstate said:

Well, I'm thrilled to see that Dorit's fake accent is back in the cast.   It must be exhausting to try and remember to put on a British accent all the time

It made me sick when Madonna did it, but for some reason I find it endearing from Dorit.  I guess because I like her.