S08.E18: The Ties that Bind

[CofCinci]

11 minutes ago, FlowerofCarnage said:

David's "suit" looks like a bunch of separate pieces he bought off the clearance rack at Men's Warehouse.

All the wedding clothes were free in exchange for social media promotion. You get what you pay for. Jenelle’s dress wasn’t even tailored. The front was never hemmed so she couldn’t walk. It looked like her straps were falling down. Marissa’s dress looks like something I made when I was 8 and my mom threw out old white sheer curtains.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

36 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

Because Roxanne is a swamp gutter rat trying to disguise herself as a Momma bear protecting her cubs.  She was able to run off her own baby daddies with her theatrics and as hard as she's tried, she hasn't been able to run Devoin completely off and It's irritating her.

Amen to this, @Brooklynista! 

30 minutes ago, nikita said:

Who the f_ck wears a veil not covering the back of her head?

People who are high. And stupid. And very, very high. 

26 minutes ago, Sprockets said:

Addie eating margarine right out of the tub WITH A KNIFE.  

Addie better pray she has inherited Leah's thin genes rather than (grand)mama Dawn's or Aunt Victoria's....because if she keeps mainlining sugar packets, icing, and margarine she's gonna need Leah's super metabolism. Jesus God, I'm thankful Leah wasn't my mother. I would have been obese by kindergarten if my mom would have been cool with me eating from tubs of frosting and margarine anytime I pleased (because I don't have Leah's super metabolism and I would have just kept downing that sugar and fat).

Edited November 7, 2017 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[Quilty]

40 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

Addie is NOT fucking eating Country Crock out of the tub!

That's our girl!! Go addie!

[CofCinci]

Anyone get a screengrab of the wild pitt bull running around during the wedding?

[Linny]

Barb's friend is still the fucking worst. No, Donna, if Barb were to abandon her principles and kiss up to David it wouldn't do anything but reinforce this asshole's belief that his behavior is okay. Any relationship Barb has with Jenelle and David needs to be contingent on respect, not concessions from Barb.

Roxanne, you're really going to cry about someone being "petty and childish" mere minutes after you climbed a booth in a restaurant to escalate an argument? Take a look in the mirror, honey, if you want to know more about childish behavior. A grown woman acting like that in a restaurant in front of her young grandchildren, I can't comprehend that level of trashiness.

Javi did look so somber during his visit with Kail. It probably really hurt knowing that baby and that happiness could have been his if things with Kail hadn't gone to hell and destroyed their family. I laughed out loud when Kail told Lincoln the baby didn't have a name yet. Get used to hearing that, Lincoln.

So do we think Addie eating Country Crock straight from the tub is a downgrade from eating icing from the can, or is it more of a lateral move?

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

I think if Roxanne isn't bitching about some man, she will die....like she will just cease to exist. So Briana has to keep being stupid as hell when it comes to baby daddies to make sure there's someone for Roxanne to bitch about. Seriously, if Roxanne didn't have some guy to hate on, I think she'd just disappear. 

[HeySandyStrange]

26 minutes ago, Sprockets said:

I feel like he always pretty much is.  He's a big weepy weenie.  

I actually think it is good that Javi shows his emotions openly. Too often men are taught that they should never show their feelings, or they are seen as big, soft, unmanly cry babies. I'd rather deal with a weeper like Javi then a seether like UBT.

[GreatKazu]

2 minutes ago, HeySandyStrange said:

I actually think it is good that Javi shows his emotions openly. Too often men are taught that they should never show their feelings, or they are seen as big, soft, unmanly cry babies. I'd rather deal with a weeper like Javi then a seether like UBT.

Agree. 

I taught my son it is okay to cry. When one of his male friends mentioned wanting to cry, but held back because he said guys don't cry, I encouraged him to let the tears flow. 

Say what you will about Javi, but that guy has feelings and I enjoy a guy who can let the tears flow now and again. He has empathy in his heart. 

[CofCinci]

Javi at his core wanted to be a father and have a family. 

[ReadMeLattice]

I'd like to hope that Barb's friend was just going along with whatever the producers were prompting her to say, maybe? Barb looked pretty nonplussed, which to me seemed weird because I'd be ridiculously offended and angry if my "friend" was saying such patently ludicrous things to me. Her reaction made me hope that it was mostly a staged dialogue because the producers were sucking up to Jenelle. 

Maybe not, but otherwise I can't understand her "friend's" silly opinions at all. They were totally unfounded. 

[ClassyCourtHeels]

I also lol’ed at Bri saying she’s doing this on her own.

 

You live with your mom and your sister does a lot of heavy lifting. 

 

And another lol at Janelle putting her veil on incorrectly 

Edited November 7, 2017 by ClassyCourtHeels

[Abmis]

The looks on Maryssa's, Jace's, and Kaiser's faces as they walked behind Jenelle and UBT after the wedding said it all.  Poor kids looked like lambs being led to slaughter.  Even Ensley looked sad although I'm sure she has no clue as to why.

Isaac telling Lincoln not to be rough when he held Sudsy was so cute.  That kid has the kindest heart.  I'm giving Jo and Vee all the credit for that because there's no way he got it from Kail. 

Chelsea and Cole's reception was happy and classy and best of all sod free.

Edited November 7, 2017 by Abmis
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[nikita]

2 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

I'd like to hope that Barb's friend was just going along with whatever the producers were prompting her to say, maybe? Barb looked pretty nonplussed, which to me seemed weird because I'd be ridiculously offended and angry if my "friend" was saying such patently ludicrous things to me. Her reaction made me hope that it was mostly a staged dialogue because the producers were sucking up to Jenelle. 

Maybe not, but otherwise I can't understand her "friend's" silly opinions at all. They were totally unfounded. 

I sense that the "friend" had/has a partner her friends and family can't stand (with good reason, most likely).

[WhosThatGirl]

Yeah I’m sorry but Barbs friend being all “you have the key to fix things with Janelle but you won’t do anything” uh.. what? And then Barb breaks down (rightfully so) that the “key to talk to Janelle is giving back Jace” Which is true. Janelle has said as much that she refuses to speak to Barb because Barb won’t just be a grandmother. Her friend is terrible. Even if producers told her to say these things, her reactions to barbs responses were ridiculous.

[CofCinci]

6 minutes ago, ClassyCourtHeels said:

I also lol’ed at Bri saying she’s doing this on her own.

 

You live with your mom and your sister does a lot of heavy lifting. 

Bri is so great at doing this on her own that she is moving to Delaware to be with Javi. 

[SmashleyMcSlayin]

Roxanne: “I don’t wanna be like that!”

Then... don’t be like that?

[nikita]

16 minutes ago, Abmis said:

The looks on Maryssa's, Jace's, and Kaiser's faces as they walked behind Jenelle and UBT after the wedding said it all.  Poor kids looked like lambs being led to slaughter.  Even Ensley looked sad although I'm sure she has no clue as to why.

Isaac telling Lincoln not to be rough when he held Sudsy was so cute.  That kid has the kindest heart.  I'm giving Jo and Vee all the credit for that because there's no way he got it from Kail. 

Chelsea and Cole's reception was happy and classy and best of all sod free.

It's great that Chelsea is happy and stable, but I don't think it's because she learned anything. I think she lucked out that her next LTR after Adam was a Cole and not another Adam. I would give her more credit had she stuck with therapy, but girl is just lucky, from the family she was born into to Randy being so supportive to meeting Cole "at the gas station."

49 minutes ago, Caseysgirl said:

I, too, felt so bad for Javi & to think that it's rumored that he is with Briana and will have to deal with her horrible family makes me feel even worse for him!  There is not one. Teen Mom in either of the franchises, other than Chelsea, who has learned a damn thing! They continue to continue to pop out children and get involved with low lifes, they just all have more money now.  Have to admit that Aubree's recording was very sweet. 

Vee seems super nice (I'm still not sure about Jo after his S1 behavior), but Isaac could also just be born sweet/empathetic/sensitive. Terrible fate for such a person to be son to an abusive person like Kail :'(

Edited November 7, 2017 by nikita

[Miss Chevious]

1 hour ago, CofCinci said:

I really hate this woman talking to Babs.

Me too. I wanted to punch Donna right in the face. It's Jenelle's wedding day, for Pete's sake! Of course Babs is going to be emotional over not being invited! Babs was looking for a little consolation, a ear to listen and a shoulder to cry on, that's all. She sure didn't need Donna's trite and pithy remarks or her supposed solutions that weren't solutions at all. Donna needs to be thrown on the same dung heap as that producer Kristin. 

[SmashleyMcSlayin]

Wow, I just got to Jenelle’s ceremony and you guys weren’t kidding about how dumb her veil looked.

[WhosThatGirl]

I actually think Jo is a nice guy now. Yeah he was rude in season 1, but he was still pretty young. Also in the early seasons of this show Kail was continuous a user with his family. He paid for her schooling, his brother was watching Issac when Kail was at school and Jo was working, she was getting a place to live. I think both of them were wrong in the ways they were with each other.

[CofCinci]

2 minutes ago, Miss Chevious said:

Me too. I wanted to punch Donna right in the face. It's Jenelle's wedding day, for Pete's sake! Of course Babs is going to be emotional over not being invited! Babs was looking for a little consolation, a ear to listen and a shoulder to cry on, that's all. She sure didn't need Donna's trite and pithy remarks or her supposed solutions that weren't solutions at all. Donna needs to be thrown on the same dung heap as that producer Kristin. 

I wonder if Donna was thrown a few extra bucks by the producers in exchange for making Babs cry. 

[nikita]

16 minutes ago, SmashleyMcSlayin said:

Roxanne: “I don’t wanna be like that!”

Then... don’t be like that?

It's interesting she has the desire to be different. I can see how she'd have no clue how to go about changing. I still think she has a vitamin deficiency. Even a hormonal imbalance can wreck a person's resiliency in times of stress.

Also, I'm impressed they aired Jenyell's wedding and *ahem* Lux's *ahem* arrival. Didn't those events just happen a few weeks ago?

[Miss Chevious]

Leah is trying to put on a good front but it's obvious she has no control over those girls. They're just running roughshod all over her right down to scarfing down the margarine straight. 

And what kid's morning routine includes a few swipes with the makeup brushes on the way out the door. 

They need subtitles during Leah's segments, can't understand 'em half the time. Especially when she's on the phone with someone. 

[SmashleyMcSlayin]

1 minute ago, nikita said:

It's interesting she has the desire to be different. I can see how she'd have no clue how to go about changing. I still think she has a vitamin deficiency. Even a hormonal imbalance can wreck a person's resiliency in times of stress.

Also, I'm impressed they aired Jenyell's wedding and *ahem* Lux's *ahem* arrival. Didn't those events just happen a few weeks ago?

Agreed, Roxanne has probably had a temper like this her whole life and therefore might not be sure how to manage anger when it comes up. But it should also be common sense to not blow up in a restaurant where other people are eating, in front of your young grandchild. A lot of people do argue in front of children though, so I recognize it isn’t quite as common sense as I’d like it to be.

[GreatKazu]

8 minutes ago, WhosThatGirl said:

I actually think Jo is a nice guy now. Yeah he was rude in season 1, but he was still pretty young. Also in the early seasons of this show Kail was continuous a user with his family. He paid for her schooling, his brother was watching Issac when Kail was at school and Jo was working, she was getting a place to live. I think both of them were wrong in the ways they were with each other.

@nikita

Not to mention, his behavior was due in part to dealing with that thing named Kail.  It isn't as if he is that way all the time or with other people. I can't say the same for Kail. She has a pattern of domestic abuse and crass behavior. Can that be said of Jo? Not at all. His mother has shown a very soft and touching manner. Jo has that same manner with Vee and other people. The only time he lost it was when Kail and Javi went to HIS home and blasted him for wearing sweatpants. The profanities thrown by those two at that time sure didn't help matters. You come to my home and dump shit on me, you'd be hard pressed to see me in a good mood. Kail makes me want to go all Billy Jack on her. I want to take my right foot and slap it across her fat head and see those 50 chins jiggle like Jell-O. 

Edited November 7, 2017 by GreatKazu

[pheebs]

Jesus God Leah - you be looking like you been rode hard and put up wet. Love the tats, gnarly toes and another sighting of the trashtastic clip-on extensions. Also, she seemed kinda high - just a touch too mellow.

Oh Karl, you whelped one ugly puppy. Lincoln is a darling, though.

Brianna, you passive aggressive hunk of silicone. You look like you're smuggling giant squash in your shorts. Brittany - please put on pants. The nasty faded oversize T-shirt is just gross. Roxanne "Just wants to be civil," as she's jumping over tables and screaming "Bitch" at Devoid. Okey-dokey.

Chelsea and Cole's "reception" was nice, low-key and classy. Watson is a Kewpie doll come to life. And just as cute - Oh, those cheeks! That smile!

And now... Welcome to the most absolutely craptastic wedding of them all. Jenyell and the Spotted Oaf manage to get hitched, y'all! Poor Maryssa, she had a look on her face as she was lugging Eggsley down the aisle and scattering rose petals all like, "Oh shit, more crap to clean up later." Bless her heart, not one smile. She just seems, so...weary. 

Except for The Roll, Jace, and Maryssa, I despise everything and everyone in her sphere. Even the rocket- headed dullard known as Eggsley.

I know, I'm going to hell.

[Persianpear]

Addie eating that butter straight out of the country crock container with that knife had to be one of the more disturbing scenes I've seen on this show.Wtf?

[Scarlett45]

I loved the recording Aubree made for Cole and Chelsea! So sweet!

The pain in Barb’s voice was 100% real- she’s afraid they are going to find her daughter dead in a ditch at the hands of David. 

[nikita]

Watson is mini-Randilicious.

 

24 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

@nikita

Not to mention, his behavior was due in part to dealing with that thing named Kail.  It isn't as if he is that way all the time or with other people. I can't say the same for Kail. She has a pattern of domestic abuse and crass behavior. Can that be said of Jo? Not at all. His mother has shown a very soft and touching manner. Jo has that same manner with Vee and other people. The only time he lost it was when Kail and Javi went to HIS home and blasted him for wearing sweatpants. The profanities thrown by those two at that time sure didn't help matters. You come to my home and dump shit on me, you'd be hard pressed to see me in a good mood. Kail makes me want to go all Billy Jack on her. I want to take my right foot and slap it across her fat head and see those 50 chins jiggle like Jell-O. 

Yeah, that's a good point. I need to remember when Jo was showing his ass, he was living in close quarters with Kail. 'Nuff said LOL

Edited November 7, 2017 by nikita

[WhosThatGirl]

12 minutes ago, nikita said:

Watson is mini-Randilicious.

 

Yeah, that's a good point. I need to remember when Jo was showing his ass, he was living in close quarters with Kail. 'Nuff said LOL

Yup. And she was using that whole family. I always feel bad for Jos Mom, actually. I think she really did care for Kail. Even when Jo and Kail broke up, she went out of her way to make sure Kail knew she would always have a home there. I always feel like the way Kail treated her was beyond rude considering what Jos family and especially his mom did for her.

[nikita]

It's astonishing Jenelle was able to wedding-plan, get gussied up for the big day, get the wedding photos taken, and get married all without leaving her bed.

[Rebecca]

The coven had nothing else to bitch about so they go in on Devoin wearing a do-rag and how Roxanne "can't" some more...(De)Jesus Christ they will find something in any situation! Roxanne is just such an asshole. 

I figured Devoin wouldn't really care if Briana "put him on child support" - he doesn't seem to care about much. All the hand wringing about it was just because the coven loves the drama so much. Brittany needs to gtfo telling Nova she'll be the popular girl because she's on TV... a) I hope no (other, because I'm sure they let Nova watch) kindergarteners are watching this show and b) one glimpse of trash bag "I can't with this" grandma and Nova will be teased forever and other children will be barred from going over to her house. They, yet again, argued about the same stuff RIGHT IN FRONT OF NOVA and in public...these people have no tact or class. Why the hell can't they just let Nova enjoy some time with her father? There's nothing to keep complaining about if you've already filed for support! The fact you never did is on YOU, Briana. He should've been supporting his daughter all along but it's insane how much I want to be on Devoin's side even though he does mostly "suck ass." Nova liking him does not a good father equate. He could've filed for visitation at any time.

Roxanne should be caged like the rabid animal she is. What grandma JUMPS ON THE BOOTH in a restaurant like that, especially to attack their grandchild's father? What person of any age has that reaction? She has a thin grasp on the words "civil" and "rational" because she's about as uncivilized and irrational as someone could be. She's also incredibly emotionally immature. If all of this is just too much to handle, Roxanne should excuse herself since she has no business being involved anyway and she makes everything much worse. She's so embarrassing and Nova seems like a very sensitive child...I feel bad for all the humiliation Nova has coming her way with this coven.

I'm just so sick of watching Jenelle "Jenelle around". Lol at the music saying "higher and higher" during her one scene. David's mother made me want to barf. Barb, Jenelle chooses every guy over her family and always has as far as we have seen. 

"Handing over Jace" won't solve anything. The only way Jenelle will allow Barb back around is if Barb cow-tows to every single thing Jenelle says and blindly supports all of Jenelle's (and David's) decisions, thoughts, actions and ideas and even then Jenelle would probably find a reason to hate on her. I feel like Barb is blinding herself to the fact Jenelle herself is the main problem because she just cannot accept Jenelle for the monster she really is. 

I watched Jenelle's wedding and lead up on Snapchat...MTV did a decent job here of not making it look as crappy as it truly was. Jenelle can now shut the fuck up about her "bad edits" because they made her wedding not look like the clusterfuck it was. Watching them coo all over Kaiser for the wedding guests made me want to puke on them. Fuck all the adults who chose to attend this wedding.

Aubree's recording for Chelsea's thing was super sweet. I wonder who had that idea? It was adorable and I don't use that word lightly.

Edited November 7, 2017 by Rebecca

[Frank the Tank]

Java is a complete sissy .... how he can have any feelings for that swamp donkey kail is beyond me plus I can’t stand his resting fart face.... dude looks like he just smelled a fart 

 

Sling Blade Dave is a serial killer in the making .... he is one creepy looking dude .... I see more prison time in his future and hopefully Honelle will be joining him .... they have driven Kaiser to cross dressing by letting him apply his own make up 

Edited November 7, 2017 by Frank the Tank

[AmandaUnbidden]

Ok, I haven't finished watching and haven't read this thread yet but, guys! That recording of Aubree!! ???I literally cried. Tears came. I don't know what came over me! I'm not a crier either. lol That was just the sweetest thing. 

Oh and that Addie is a firecracker! Good luck with her Leah! She is going to give you a run for your money! Leah doesn't know how lucky she was to have Corey's sweet temperament mixed into the twins' DNA. Addie's just pure Leah and Jeremy! I mean did you see her eating that whole thing of butter with a knife? ?? And we thought Sophia was the only feral child in this franchise! God bless her, but I still love little Addie. She's hilarious!

Barb's friend can go suck an egg! Did the producers hire her on Jenelle's behalf? I still have a hard time believing this is a real friend of Barb's. With friends like that who needs enemies?

Devoin can also go suck an egg! How dare he make me be on the side of the coven! And how funny will it be when he realizes that child support and custody are two very different things? I would love to be there when that arrogant smirk is wiped off his face when he realizes he has to pay whether he sees Nova or not. And he'll never get a lawyer to secure visitation rights so the coven has nothing to worry about there. It was nice seeing Roxanne trying to be civil with him at first. I'm glad to see that she knows she's OTT. She needs counseling to help her calm down and keep her anger in check. With her awareness of the problem, she could really make a lot of progress.

EDITED to add a big fuck you to Kail! I know Jabi can be a bratty little child but I so felt for him when he went to visit the baby. That must've been so hard for him but props to him for being the bigger man and trying to be civil for his boys. I loved that he calls them that. Kail really fucked up letting him and Jo slip through her fingers. I, very much doubt, she will ever find another stand up guy willing to put up with her.

And is everyone buying this Leah, perfect mother routine? IDK Something feels off. It's like Leah seems forced or trying a little too hard to force this perfect family scenario. It doesn't feel natural at all. I do hope for the girls' sake, it's real just not sure I'm fully buying it yet. 

Edited November 7, 2017 by AmandaUnbidden

[SimonSeymour]

Did anyone else notice all of the empty seats at Jenelle’s wedding? They must have invited more than the 25 people who actually showed up. 

[Ladystardust]

Someone posted a screenshot of Jenelle saying that her veil was a “different kind of veil”. I guess she’s trying to pass it off like it was supposed to be like that. Um, no. It was a traditional veil - you could see the hair clip on top when she flipped the veil over her face. My veil was exactly like that. The clip should have been down in her hair, not lying across the top of her head like that. I couldn’t stop laughing.

I didn’t see Maryssa smile once. Not once. 

Chelsea’s wedding/reception/whatever was nice. But why bridesmaids? I don’t really care that she had two weddings or whatever but being a bridesmaid sucks and it’s expensive. I’d not want to do it for a “reception”. Maybe she bought their dresses and stuff so she could have traditional wedding party pictures. 

Leah’s segments give me anxiety watching those kids run around with zero supervision and making messes everywhere. 

Why hasn’t Devoid filed for visitation yet anyways? Nova’s what, six? There is no way he wouldn’t get visitation if he filed. I mean, even ADAM has visitation. Briana is just an idiot. She should have filed for child support years ago. Instead, she just sat around and bitched about it for six years.

Poor Javi. 

[nikita]

Aha! I figured out the mystery of the f#cked-up veil. The part that would cover her face was attached to the flower crown that was suspected to have been trashed on nuptials' eve.

Was MTV trolling David & Jenelle with that "babe" song at the start of the wedding segment?

Jenelle, moments before the wedding: "I'm *sooo* scared right now." Girrrrrl, you'd better listen to that fear!

Edited November 7, 2017 by nikita

[LotusFlower]

22 minutes ago, AmandaUnbidden said:

Devoin can also go suck an egg! How dare he make me be on the side of the coven! And how funny will it be when he realizes that child support and custody are two very different things? I would love to be there when that arrogant smirk is wiped off his face when he realizes he has to pay whether he sees Nova or not. 

I was just going to say the same thing.  I think he thinks that a hearing on child support means a judge will award him custody or visitation.  Like the two go hand in hand.  No, Devoid - you have a child - you pay child support.  That being said, I hate how everyone's so passive-aggressive.  While Devoid could have worked out a visitation schedule at any time, Briana could have filed for child support at any time, too.  But she didn't, because the coven wanted completed control over Nova's life.  They're all so full of it. 

[SPLAIN]

8 minutes ago, Ladystardust said:

Why hasn’t Devoid filed for visitation yet anyways? Nova’s what, six? There is no way he wouldn’t get visitation if he filed. I mean, even ADAM has visitation. Briana is just an idiot. She should have filed for child support years ago. Instead, she just sat around and bitched about it for six years.

Poor Javi. 

Adumb has visitation because his parents pushed for it. They have visitation with Aubree. He chooses not to. 

Javi was really sad. He really wants his family back. Too bad Kail is not wife material. She is trash. She is an Anybodys, like that wannabe Jet whore in the movie West Side Story.

[Frank the Tank]

The reason Nova was so upset the first day at Strip mall school was because Debbie Downer stuck a participation ribbon in her hair and told her it was a hair Barrette .... you’d be sad too

[AmandaUnbidden]

20 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

I was just going to say the same thing.  I think he thinks that a hearing on child support means a judge will award him custody or visitation.  Like the two go hand in hand.  No, Devoid - you have a child - you pay child support.  That being said, I hate how everyone's so passive-aggressive.  While Devoid could have worked out a visitation schedule at any time, Briana could have filed for child support at any time, too.  But she didn't, because the coven wanted completed control over Nova's life.  They're all so full of it. 

While I agree that Brianna and co are very passive aggressive, and for the most part do not handle things correctly, I'm starting to think that Brianna really was trying to be understanding with Devoin in regards to child support and thought he didn't have a job or only one shitty one. I can understand when she got pissed hearing he has two jobs but hasn't even tried to step up and support Nova in any way without Brianna telling him to. But this is why Brianna should've file for child support from the beginning. She knows who Devoin is, and she should know she cannot depend on him to do the right thing without being forced. 

Oh, and, she should've been having this convo with Devoin by their selves. Instead she was making her mother fight her battle for her, as always. She didn't even talk directly to Devoin. She whined to her mother even though Devoin was sitting right there!

Edited November 7, 2017 by AmandaUnbidden

[Booted]

Watson looks like a mix of Cole and a lot like Randy!!

[heatherchandler]

DAVE WAS SOOO FUCKING HIGH!!!

Holy shit he was high as a kite, I’m guessing on opiates.  The slurring speech, and acting so excited about everything.  Also the weird reaction to Kaiser putting on a tiny bit of face powder.  He was fucked up.

 

Oh and this

 

 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2017 by heatherchandler

[LotusFlower]

5 minutes ago, AmandaUnbidden said:

While I agree that Brianna and co are very passive aggressive, and for the most part do not handle things correctly, I'm starting to think that Brianna really was trying to be understanding with Devoin in regards to child support and thought he didn't have a job or only one shitty one.

When?  How old is Nova now?  Five, six?  How long was she planning on giving Devoid a break on paying child support?  It's not a good idea to constantly give excuses (or enable his excuse-making).  She should have told Devoid she expected financial support from him from the get-go, and put the burden on him to meet it.  On the flip side, if he wanted to see Nova like he claims, he could have demanded visitation or even joint custody since day one.  But both sides want what they want (the coven to have complete control, Devoid to be free of responsibility), and only use these insults and criticisms when it's convenient.  

[AmandaUnbidden]

3 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

When?  How old is Nova now?  Five, six?  How long was she planning on giving Devoid a break on paying child support?  It's not a good idea to constantly give excuses (or enable his excuse-making).  She should have told Devoid she expected financial support from him from the get-go, and put the burden on him to meet it.  On the flip side, if he wanted to see Nova like he claims, he could have demanded visitation or even joint custody since day one.  But both sides want what they want (the coven to have complete control, Devoid to be free of responsibility), and only use these insults and criticisms when it's convenient.  

Oh, I agree with you completely. I'm just saying I think that's what she was doing in the beginning but she, of course, let it go on way too long. That's why I said she should've filled for child support in the beginning.

[SPLAIN]

3 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

When?  How old is Nova now?  Five, six?  How long was she planning on giving Devoid a break on paying child support?  It's not a good idea to constantly give excuses (or enable his excuse-making).  She should have told Devoid she expected financial support from him from the get-go, and put the burden on him to meet it.  On the flip side, if he wanted to see Nova like he claims, he could have demanded visitation or even joint custody since day one.  But both sides want what they want (the coven to have complete control, Devoid to be free of responsibility), and only use these insults and criticisms when it's convenient.  

There was that conversation Briana had with Devoin in the last episode about not filing for child support because she was worried about his driver's license being revoked if he missed a payment. It sounds like perhaps Devoin was giving Briana money here and there, just not on a regular basis. She must have been content with the payments for these five years. That is, until Stella came along and the budget is getting tighter. Nova is now in school and Briana needs money for the after-care program. Briana is seeing that the previous five years she was able to let Devoin slide.

Both of these nitwits should have established legal boundaries long ago.

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On 11/5/2017 at 10:49 PM, GreatKazu said:

On 11/1/2017 at 10:21 PM, GreatKazu said:

 

In the season finale, Jenelle walks down the aisle dead sod with her possession, Jace; Chelsea celebrates her wedding for a second time in a different dress; Leah tries to get Gracie up earlier to help Addie get ready for preschool; Kailyn contacts RadarOnline to inform them she is giving birth to a child who shall remain nameless because she doesn't know who the father is. 

 

Superbly accurate. Also, does the title of the episode seem eerie, or is it just me? I feel like the ID channel came up with it and let MTV use it so it’ll be recognizable for their future 4 part series “The Ties that Bind: ON THE LAND”

Edited November 7, 2017 by Enya Face
Fucking fat fingers and trying to copy and paste too fast

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44 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

DAVE WAS SOOO FUCKING HIGH!!!

Holy shit he was high as a kite, I’m guessing on opiates.  The slurring speech, and acting so excited about everything.  Also the weird reaction to Kaiser putting on a tiny bit of face powder.  He was fucked up.

 

I just read that Davids son Kadens mother Olivia was a hardcore heroin addict - that has me majorly wondering about David now. 

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David pushing the "im your new stepdad" and "you guys are my sons now" to jace and kaiser was creepy af....

 

I have so much more to add to this episode... i gotta gather all my thoughts on this bullshit i just watched.

[GreatKazu]

No wonder Devoin gave up his information so freely when Briana asked him for it for the child support forms several episodes back. He has TWO JOBS! He is like the Hanley family  on "In Living Color" HEY MON! The hardest working family with 594,887 different jobs.

Who fucking bitches about a guy having two jobs? Those hosebeasts should have been ordering up some damn beer and more wings at that restaurant to celebrate. 

Devoin needs to put the blunt down, spray some Axe on himself, sober up, and go see a lawyer for visitation just so I could see him show up to pick up Nova with his entire family in three cars. *honk honk* We are here, bitches! 

Leah telling her kids not to tell on each other. Ohhh boy. Just wait until they’re teenagers and they are sneaking dudes in and out of the house while mama is passed out. 

Is Addie related to Paula Deen? Eating trans fat with no fucks to give. All that fake butter and sugar in her system will surely make her body go to shit. She will end up looking like Mama Dawn. 

Gracie putting on make-up for school. Can never start 'em up too young, Leah? The three R's - reading, writing, and rolling in the sack. 

LOL @ Lincoln calling the baby "It." 

Vee dressed fine and looking pretty while Kail sits on the couch with her three kids by three different guys, looking rough and big as a whale just like she did before she was ever pregnant. 

Did anyone see that big bottle of "Stress Relief" on Jenelle's nightstand? lol 

@Enya Face if the ID channel let MTV use that title, they let them use it last year when the same episode title was used for a Teen Mom OG episode. MTV is recycling episode titles, I guess. 

Edited November 7, 2017 by GreatKazu