guilfoyleatpp October 24, 2017 Share October 24, 2017 If I ran into Josh and his friends in a bar, I would expect that they had just recently laid down their tiki torches. 14 Link to comment
Drogo October 24, 2017 Author Share October 24, 2017 Josh has two friends, one who doesn't talk and one who doesn't shut the fuck up. 8 Link to comment
spankydoll October 24, 2017 Share October 24, 2017 1 hour ago, guilfoyleatpp said: If I ran into Josh and his friends in a bar, I would expect that they had just recently laid down their tiki torches. Yep. That Hitler youth haircut. 6 Link to comment
PityFree October 24, 2017 Share October 24, 2017 I am so excited to see Aika’s face when she realizes she’s going to have roommates. I’m also excited to see what she says when she finds out Josh has to pay child support - that’s money that Josh can’t use to be her provider. 6 Link to comment
AZChristian October 24, 2017 Share October 24, 2017 1 hour ago, PityFree said: I am so excited to see Aika’s face when she realizes she’s going to have roommates. I’m also excited to see what she says when she finds out Josh has to pay child support - that’s money that Josh can’t use to be her provider. I'm excited to see Josh's face when Aika demands to be taken back to the airport. 13 Link to comment
Forum member October 24, 2017 Share October 24, 2017 8 hours ago, PityFree said: I am so excited to see Aika’s face when she realizes she’s going to have roommates. I’m also excited to see what she says when she finds out Josh has to pay child support - that’s money that Josh can’t use to be her provider. A while back, Noon and hubby had a roommate in New Orleans. Didn't take her very long to move them back to Thailand. 1 Link to comment
Schadenfreulein October 24, 2017 Share October 24, 2017 People from poorer countries feigning affection to someone from a richer one in order to gain citizenship is nothing new. People who are socially awkward or otherwise unsuccessful in their home country's marriage market looking to poorer countries to go shopping online for a spouse is nothing new. (I liken it to those guys who go to Japan to teach English so they can finally get a girlfriend.) So why is it that so many of these prospective spouses - particularly the women - seem convinced that they're getting anything other than the dregs of the dating pool after it's been drained and dredged? I get that the First World standard of living that they see on tv and in movies looks luxurious in comparison to their own. I also imagine that some of these online shoppers probably make promises they can't keep (Jorge). But it's hard to believe that all of these (mostly) women are so completely naïve that they really believe that the man showing interest is wealthy by North American standards. Those kind of men aren't likely to need to shop online for a wife or girlfriend from overseas. (They're more likely to be sex tourists like Chris.) None of these women strike me as stupid, yet they believe that a guy like Josh is going to live in a waterfront palace. I suppose what doesn't add up for me is how seemingly intelligent (maybe not educated, but definitely not stupid) people can have such a skewed idea of what average working or middle class life in North America really looks like. Yes, it's likely more materially comfortable than their current home, but how do they get to thinking that they're going to be moving into Trump Tower or the Ewing family ranch? Can anyone shed light on this? It's been bothering me for a while. 6 Link to comment
MrHufflepuff October 24, 2017 Share October 24, 2017 (edited) If their perception of how the lower middle class & working poor live come from shows like Roseanne or the one on TV right now called "Mom," then that probably looks pretty luxurious compared to working poor standards in the developing world. Sitcoms and soaps (and everyone, even the poor, looks glamorous in soaps) get wide play outside the US. I'm not sure how much play more serious shows get. But even more serious shows (like SVU) tend to spruce up working poor living conditions a bit. I'm having trouble thinking of many TV shows that give a realistic depiction of the poor and/or working poor in the US (The Wire?). That might account for some of the skewed perceptions. I'm just speculating, though. Edited October 24, 2017 by MrHufflepuff 10 Link to comment
biakbiak October 25, 2017 Share October 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Forum member said: A while back, Noon and hubby had a roommate in New Orleans. Didn't take her very long to move them back to Thailand. They moved to Portland not Thailand. They are still there and look very happy. What does Josh do for a living? Also, were he and his friends drinking at the airport? 2 Link to comment
PityFree October 25, 2017 Share October 25, 2017 50 minutes ago, biakbiak said: They moved to Portland not Thailand. They are still there and look very happy. What does Josh do for a living? Also, were he and his friends drinking at the airport? IIRC Josh said he was a home theater installer. If Aika is his idea of a hot cheerleader, then he went to a very sad high school. 10 Link to comment
biakbiak October 25, 2017 Share October 25, 2017 1 minute ago, PityFree said: IIRC Josh said he was a home theater installer. If Aika is his idea of a hot cheerleader, then he went to a very sad high school. Oh that's right they even showed him plugging something in to a to a Tv! 6 Link to comment
MrSmith October 26, 2017 Share October 26, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 5:19 PM, Forum member said: A while back, Noon and hubby had a roommate in New Orleans. Didn't take her very long to move them back to Thailand. Well, my wife and I couldn't understand why they didn't get married in Thailand and continue to live there in the first place. As for getting married there, it's not like he had that much family that came to the wedding in America, and having her family there was important for her. When it comes to living there, he can make a good living as a bartender in some of the tourist areas, and he liked living there when he was there. He'd certainly make a better living as a bartender there than he would here. 2 Link to comment
Desert Rat October 26, 2017 Share October 26, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 4:01 PM, Schadenfreulein said: People from poorer countries feigning affection to someone from a richer one in order to gain citizenship is nothing new. People who are socially awkward or otherwise unsuccessful in their home country's marriage market looking to poorer countries to go shopping online for a spouse is nothing new. (I liken it to those guys who go to Japan to teach English so they can finally get a girlfriend.) So why is it that so many of these prospective spouses - particularly the women - seem convinced that they're getting anything other than the dregs of the dating pool after it's been drained and dredged? I get that the First World standard of living that they see on tv and in movies looks luxurious in comparison to their own. I also imagine that some of these online shoppers probably make promises they can't keep (Jorge). But it's hard to believe that all of these (mostly) women are so completely naïve that they really believe that the man showing interest is wealthy by North American standards. Those kind of men aren't likely to need to shop online for a wife or girlfriend from overseas. (They're more likely to be sex tourists like Chris.) None of these women strike me as stupid, yet they believe that a guy like Josh is going to live in a waterfront palace. I suppose what doesn't add up for me is how seemingly intelligent (maybe not educated, but definitely not stupid) people can have such a skewed idea of what average working or middle class life in North America really looks like. Yes, it's likely more materially comfortable than their current home, but how do they get to thinking that they're going to be moving into Trump Tower or the Ewing family ranch? Can anyone shed light on this? It's been bothering me for a while. They probably have skewed perception of American life. However, some people coming from countries where the average income is say $200 a month might find the lifestyle of even working class Americans to be somewhat luxurious. A working class American will have indoor plumbing; hot indoor running water; potable water on tap in the home; a floor that is tile or carpeted, not dirt; a car; air conditioning and heating in the home; and much , much more. These things are standard here, but not so much for the average person in many poorer countries. And if you live in that kind of poverty, living in an average American working class house or apartment might seem like upgrading to something like the Trump Tower. 14 Link to comment
Schadenfreulein October 26, 2017 Share October 26, 2017 5 hours ago, Desert Rat said: They probably have skewed perception of American life. However, some people coming from countries where the average income is say $200 a month might find the lifestyle of even working class Americans to be somewhat luxurious. A working class American will have indoor plumbing; hot indoor running water; potable water on tap in the home; a floor that is tile or carpeted, not dirt; a car; air conditioning and heating in the home; and much , much more. These things are standard here, but not so much for the average person in many poorer countries. And if you live in that kind of poverty, living in an average American working class house or apartment might seem like upgrading to something like the Trump Tower. Yes, that all makes perfect sense. I suppose the reason that the spouses from impoverished countries don't believe that poverty exists in North America is that their definition of poverty and ours are a long way apart. I have noticed, however, in a lot of the cases that once they arrived the foreign partner often seems disappointed that the American person lives in an apartment, or a very ordinary or small house. It's as if they're expecting more grandeur somehow. In any case, if you moved from, say, Karine's family home in that remote part of Brazil into Sean's half finished house, I can see how it would feel like a big step up. But you might also be thinking, "This is it? No chandeliers? No Jacuzzi tub? I thought all Americans had those." I don't know if I'm making sense anymore... 8 Link to comment
AZChristian October 26, 2017 Share October 26, 2017 30 minutes ago, Schadenfreulein said: Yes, that all makes perfect sense. I suppose the reason that the spouses from impoverished countries don't believe that poverty exists in North America is that their definition of poverty and ours are a long way apart. I have noticed, however, in a lot of the cases that once they arrived the foreign partner often seems disappointed that the American person lives in an apartment, or a very ordinary or small house. It's as if they're expecting more grandeur somehow. In any case, if you moved from, say, Karine's family home in that remote part of Brazil into Sean's half finished house, I can see how it would feel like a big step up. But you might also be thinking, "This is it? No chandeliers? No Jacuzzi tub? I thought all Americans had those." I don't know if I'm making sense anymore... Just for the record Karine is hooked up with Paul. Sean is hooked up with Abby. Therefore to find Karine in Sean's house, well that would be weird. 2 Link to comment
Schadenfreulein October 26, 2017 Share October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, AZChristian said: Just for the record Karine is hooked up with Paul. Sean is hooked up with Abby. Therefore to find Karine in Sean's house, well that would be weird. Oh, I know. I was just searching for two examples of housing that would be the most polar opposite. We didn't get to see much of where Paul lived, which is probably his mom's house anyway. But there's definitely scope for a "Spouse House" style spin-off with Paul, Karine, Sean, Abby and (of course) Chris all living together... I freely admit that I'd be watching... 4 Link to comment
Popular Post Forum member October 26, 2017 Popular Post Share October 26, 2017 44 minutes ago, Schadenfreulein said: We didn't get to see much of where Paul lived, which is probably his mom's house anyway. Paul's house? No problem. 1 25 Link to comment
Schadenfreulein October 26, 2017 Share October 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Forum member said: Paul's house? No problem. ....which is why he still lives in Brazil - hopefully with Karine's retired cop father 4 Link to comment
Desert Rat October 27, 2017 Share October 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Schadenfreulein said: Yes, that all makes perfect sense. I suppose the reason that the spouses from impoverished countries don't believe that poverty exists in North America is that their definition of poverty and ours are a long way apart. I have noticed, however, in a lot of the cases that once they arrived the foreign partner often seems disappointed that the American person lives in an apartment, or a very ordinary or small house. It's as if they're expecting more grandeur somehow. In any case, if you moved from, say, Karine's family home in that remote part of Brazil into Sean's half finished house, I can see how it would feel like a big step up. But you might also be thinking, "This is it? No chandeliers? No Jacuzzi tub? I thought all Americans had those." I don't know if I'm making sense anymore... Yes, makes sense. That's how we all are. We are always looking for the upgrade, Apple and Samsung count on it. It's what keeps people moving into bigger better homes, for example. So, you come here from a poor country and you think, "Wow! Indoor plumbing, potable water on tap, no dirt floor, electric on demand. That's way better than back home" But then you realize it's not what was shown on tv and in the movies, and you look around and see bigger, fancier, nicer stuff and you want it, and you are disappointed. It's not just foreigners; it's all of us, and it's what drives capitalism and our entire economy. 1 hour ago, Forum member said: Paul's house? No problem. I can't stop laughing!!!!!! 7 Link to comment
gavinmac November 6, 2017 Share November 6, 2017 On 10/26/2017 at 6:28 AM, MrSmith said: Well, my wife and I couldn't understand why they didn't get married in Thailand and continue to live there in the first place. As for getting married there, it's not like he had that much family that came to the wedding in America, and having her family there was important for her. When it comes to living there, he can make a good living as a bartender in some of the tourist areas, and he liked living there when he was there. He'd certainly make a better living as a bartender there than he would here. Westerners don't make good livings as bartenders in Thailand. That job can be done by a Thai for $400 a month. There are also roughly 30,000 Western hippie backpackers in Thailand who are broke and willing to bartend in exchange for food and modest lodging. Moreover, Thailand has been cracking down on Westerners living there in recent years and it's not easy for Westerners to get long term visas to live there unless they have good jobs, sponsorship by employer, etc. If Kyle and Noon want to have kids, educating them to a Western standard is very expensive in Thailand, it's free in American public schools. Their future is much better in the USA. 11 Link to comment
MrSmith November 6, 2017 Share November 6, 2017 @gavinmac Thank you for educating me! 2 Link to comment
spankydoll November 6, 2017 Share November 6, 2017 Already he is lying to her about what he can provide. He is not a stand up guy. 2 Link to comment
Baltimore Betty November 6, 2017 Share November 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, spankydoll said: Already he is lying to her about what he can provide. He is not a stand up guy. She is lying to him about her age. Did she really fly from Bangkok in a mini skirt and sky high heels? 6 Link to comment
gavinmac November 6, 2017 Share November 6, 2017 7 hours ago, MrSmith said: @gavinmac Thank you for educating me! I am a bit biased, of course. I'm a generate who has been to Southeast Asia 50+ times but I don't think I'd ever live there. In fact, I wrote a tongue-in-cheek article a few years back titled "7 Reasons Why You Really Shouldn't Move to Cambodia" which prompted a lot of very, very angry comments. http://www.khmer440.com/k/2013/07/7-reasons-why-you-really-shouldnt-move-to-cambodia/ 6 Link to comment
Kath94 November 6, 2017 Share November 6, 2017 Did anyone catch the preview for next week where they're already hinting at Aika modeling? I'm SO tired of this "story." Loren wanted Alexei to model, Paola, Anfisa, and now Aika. Like women can't do anything but model in the USA. 8 Link to comment
gavinmac November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 On 11/6/2017 at 0:48 PM, Kath94 said: Did anyone catch the preview for next week where they're already hinting at Aika modeling? I'm SO tired of this "story." Loren wanted Alexei to model, Paola, Anfisa, and now Aika. Like women can't do anything but model in the USA. Kirlyam too. Did anyone notice the huge tattoo on Aika's lower left leg? Having spent a lot of the time in Southeast Asia, I'll say that large tattoos are a pretty good indicator that a woman has worked in a hooker bar. 4 Link to comment
Booger666 November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 I would love to know more about Aika’s background. She seems fairly intelligent, nice and pretty and if she wants a family why hasn’t it happened until now with loser Josh? Even if she would only marry a US citizen surely there have been better opportunities before Josh. Has she been a mistress, escort, something I don’t even know about? Someone had to pay for those implants and contacts. I also don’t get why he is with her as it seems like he really wants an 18-20 yr old bimbo. 7 Link to comment
gavinmac November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, Booger666 said: I also don’t get why he is with her as it seems like he really wants an 18-20 yr old bimbo. That's an interesting question. Josh is not super old or terrible looking, and he's white, and he's American, so he definitely could get an 18-25 year old Filipina on one of these websites. It's strange, he's superficial but not about age, I guess. Many women in southeast Asia have children young and then let their parents raise the kids while they go back to work or even move out of the country for work. It's possible Aika has a kid. It would be odd for a 36 year old Filipina not to have kids. 1 Link to comment
poeticlicensed November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, gavinmac said: 23 minutes ago, Booger666 said: I also don’t get why he is with her as it seems like he really wants an 18-20 yr old bimbo. That's an interesting question. Josh is not super old or terrible looking, and he's white, and he's American, so he definitely could get an 18-25 year old Filipina on one of these websites. It's strange, he's superficial but not about age, I guess. I'm thinking that although he thinks he wants an 18-25yr old bimbo, he really doesn't want to have to care care of and support someone so much younger than himself. Can you see him with an 18 year old having her make babies while he supports them? Um no. Aika can take care of herself. Plus she seems like a fun person. 5 Link to comment
Baltimore Betty November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 Aiko tells Josh she has body issues but yet she favors Daisy Dukes, crop tops and heels, hmmm. 6 Link to comment
Baltimore Betty November 13, 2017 Share November 13, 2017 On 11/6/2017 at 2:56 PM, gavinmac said: I am a bit biased, of course. I'm a generate who has been to Southeast Asia 50+ times but I don't think I'd ever live there. In fact, I wrote a tongue-in-cheek article a few years back titled "7 Reasons Why You Really Shouldn't Move to Cambodia" which prompted a lot of very, very angry comments. http://www.khmer440.com/k/2013/07/7-reasons-why-you-really-shouldnt-move-to-cambodia/ I really enjoyed your article, LOL worthy! 2 Link to comment
alegtostandon November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 (edited) After watching the segment on these 2, I don't think Josh has true gauges in his lobes. Those look more like large disk posts are suppose to look like gauges. Edited November 14, 2017 by alegtostandon Link to comment
booboopbedoo November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 On 06/11/2017 at 0:48 PM, Kath94 said: hinting at Aika modeling Right- at 36 Maybe she can join the same agency as Paola works at 6 Link to comment
Arwen Evenstar November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 Josh really grosses me out. He looks rode hard and put up wet for his age. I’ve seen men almost two decades older who look younger than him. I really hate how he treats her like a trophy, what a Neanderthal. I always liked it when men showed me off and were proud to be with me, and a certain amount of that is healthy and makes a girl feel good about herself, but being treated like some prize he won is no bueno. Aika is growing on me. I like her look better without the colored contacts, but fake lashes need to go. Also like how she has no filter, but is still polite. She also stands up for herself. Why dies the water boy get to wear flip flops to the supermarket and she’s made to go in stilettos? She won’t make that mistake again. 17 Link to comment
gonecrackers November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 (edited) I think Josh's schoolboy lust is going to get old for Aika. I hope it does because I like her as well & feel he's a creep. I'd also like to see her get a new wardrobe because she's not 'working' anymore (hopefully!). Edited November 14, 2017 by gonecrackers 8 Link to comment
AZChristian November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 Much to my surprise, the modeling agency is real. Here's something interesting from their web page: "We are licensed and bonded by the State of Arizona Industrial Commission, and franchised by the Screen Actors Guild and AFTRA. Signature is not a school and our licensing stipulates that we can ONLY make money off of commissions for legitimate bookings for you or your child. We intentionally maintain a roster of under 500 models/talent (including adults, children), and voiceover talent. As a “Boutique Agency” we can focus more time and energy on your career and help you fulfill your dreams." In other words, they knew they weren't going to be able to make any commissions from Aika, so they weren't going to waste spend any time trying. 6 Link to comment
Sprockets November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Arwen Evenstar said: Aika is growing on me. Same here. At first I thought she was too phony, but now I think she is extremely real. My opinion of Josh Hornytoad has not changed. Edited November 14, 2017 by Sprockets screwed up 7 Link to comment
Lion18 November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 9 hours ago, Arwen Evenstar said: Josh really grosses me out. He looks rode hard and put up wet for his age. I’ve seen men almost two decades older who look younger than him. I really hate how he treats her like a trophy, what a Neanderthal. I always liked it when men showed me off and were proud to be with me, and a certain amount of that is healthy and makes a girl feel good about herself, but being treated like some prize he won is no bueno. Aika is growing on me. I like her look better without the colored contacts, but fake lashes need to go. Also like how she has no filter, but is still polite. She also stands up for herself. Why dies the water boy get to wear flip flops to the supermarket and she’s made to go in stilettos? She won’t make that mistake again. Same thought about the heels. Then she saidIF YOU WANT ME TO WEAR THESE HEELS YOU HAVE TO HELP ME WALK or something like that. I had a boyfriend years ago who wanted me to always wear heels. Screw him 8 Link to comment
TwirlyGirly November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 20 hours ago, Lion18 said: <snip> I had a boyfriend years ago who wanted me to always wear heels. Screw him To be fair, that would probably be the best time to wear them. Lying down you wouldn't have to worry about balance or twisting an ankle..... 1 11 Link to comment
Sprockets November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 21 hours ago, Lion18 said: I had a boyfriend years ago who wanted me to always wear heels. Screw him I made a conscious "no heels" decision about 20 years ago. Ten years ago it was "no makeup." Five years ago it was "no bra." I like saying no. It feels good. On 10/26/2017 at 6:50 PM, Forum member said: Paul's house? No problem. Hes' going to need some new curtains. 5 Link to comment
Bryce Lynch November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 On 11/13/2017 at 0:45 PM, Booger666 said: I would love to know more about Aika’s background. She seems fairly intelligent, nice and pretty and if she wants a family why hasn’t it happened until now with loser Josh? Even if she would only marry a US citizen surely there have been better opportunities before Josh. Has she been a mistress, escort, something I don’t even know about? Someone had to pay for those implants and contacts. I also don’t get why he is with her as it seems like he really wants an 18-20 yr old bimbo. I would think the contacts would be cheap. The implants would be much more expensive. 22 hours ago, Sprockets said: Same here. At first I thought she was too phony, but now I think she is extremely real. My opinion of Josh Hornytoad has not changed. Aika is sort of a contradiction. Her external appearance is very fake, lots of make up, colored contacts, enormous false eyelashes and (presumably) fake breasts. But her personality seems pretty real. She speaks her mind and seems honest and straightforward. 3 Link to comment
spankydoll November 16, 2017 Share November 16, 2017 Annnnndddd Josh'd array of mug shots all over Starcasm. Bank fraud, DUI and the cherry on Top a Domestic Violence charge. The DM chages sound very chilling - he wouldn't even give the police entry to his home when they heard a woman screaming inside. RUN Aika! 9 Link to comment
lenny November 16, 2017 Share November 16, 2017 On 11/14/2017 at 7:18 AM, gonecrackers said: I think Josh's schoolboy lust is going to get old for Aika. I hope it does because I like her as well & feel he's a creep. I'd also like to see her get a new wardrobe because she's not 'working' anymore (hopefully!). I wasn't crazy about Aika at first but she's really growing on me and boy, Josh is one creepy dude, making her go to a modeling audition when she wasn't interested. What's next Josh, porn? What a jerk. 6 Link to comment
magemaud November 16, 2017 Share November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, spankydoll said: Annnnndddd Josh'd array of mug shots all over Starcasm. Bank fraud, DUI and the cherry on Top a Domestic Violence charge. The DM chages sound very chilling - he wouldn't even give the police entry to his home when they heard a woman screaming inside. RUN Aika! Isn't it eerie that his last name is BATTERSON? 5 Link to comment
PityFree November 20, 2017 Share November 20, 2017 Ugh. To Josh, Aika is nothing more than a pretty face, big boobs, and skinny body. He doesn’t seem to care or even know that she has a brain and she wants to use it! she wants to do computer stuff. Josh is one of those assholes who will complain constantly if his wife gains any weight after having a kid or God for bid has stretch marks. He’s an ass. He is just so incredibly unfortunate looking and his personal life is a shambles. how do you have two ex-wives, you’re not allowed to see your children, you are in your late 30s and live with roommates and still think you are a catch - deserving of a beauty queen??? 7 Link to comment
Awfarmington November 20, 2017 Share November 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, PityFree said: Ugh. To Josh, Aika is nothing more than a pretty face, big boobs, and skinny body. He doesn’t seem to care or even know that she has a brain and she wants to use it! she wants to do computer stuff. Josh is one of those assholes who will complain constantly if his wife gains any weight after having a kid or God for bid has stretch marks. He’s an ass. He is just so incredibly unfortunate looking and his personal life is a shambles. how do you have two ex-wives, you’re not allowed to see your children, you are in your late 30s and live with roommates and still think you are a catch - deserving of a beauty queen??? He probably feels like he purchased a beauty queen. He may have enough self awareness to realize that he couldn't find that locally. Although we of course have men (and women) who don't seem to understand their expectations are unreasonable, and want a partner way out of their league. 1 Link to comment
Emkat November 20, 2017 Share November 20, 2017 Problems with conception?! WTF is he on about? Are the kids not his bio kids? 1 Link to comment
PityFree November 20, 2017 Share November 20, 2017 Oh man. I wonder if after his last divorce Josh didn’t get a vasectomy. 3 Link to comment
Christina November 20, 2017 Share November 20, 2017 It's absolutely believable that Josh gave Aika his ex-wife's ring, because Josh is Josh, but her insistence at the jewelry store for the bigger ring like he promised, right then, when he lives with a roommate and obviously doesn't have much, tells me that is a fake storyline too. Then, she is talking about having a baby and he mentions having to figure out something or other (I was flipping back and forth with football because this show is too long) because he has a vasectomy, but didn't say that exactly, and I'm left to wonder why I'm even watching. Are we supposed to believe that he didn't bother to tell her about it? 1 Link to comment
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