Paul & Karine: These Condoms Ain't For Sexin'

[Rdh1314]

4 hours ago, hookedontv said:

I call BS on Paul’s FB post. In “About Us,” it reads: All trainers of Tactical Detection K9 are prior or cpresent police officers.”

https://www.tacticaldetectionk9.com/about-us

Right and because he's  got his horrible problems with anxiety , those dogs are probably legally considered his "therapeutic pets."  Paul is a wreck.

[iwasish]

He’s probably a puppy raiser, like the families that take Seeing Eye puppies and get them socialized for the first year. I doubt he’s doing any training,  he doesn’t have the personality for it. 

Edited to add:

Paul says in the Facebook post that he is a contracted K9”Handler” , the Trainers are ex or current police officers. I doubt he’s training, more like a shit shoveler.

Edited October 17, 2018 by iwasish

[doyouevengohere]

the 90dayfiancetea IG says that the tell nothing was the only time MOTHER has spoken to and video chatted with Karine.  I think Pol's parents are probably super big racists  or they are trumpsters or both, Either way, I don't think it would be a healthy environment for Karine to go and stay in that house.  Pol's accusations of her cheating are consistant with his ex's that said he would accuse them of cheating all the time to get them to quit jobs and just stay "home" with him so he could control and hoard crap.  If Karine is going to continue to be with him, it's so much better for her to stay in Brazil and make him move there.  He's out of the grips of MOTHER and FATHER and her family is all around .  The worst thing would be for her to go so far away with no one for support and have to live in the basement of a house where people probably hate her.

[eatsleep]

Is Karine's face assymetrical or is she always sneering sidelong and side eyeing? I can't tell.

[Rdh1314]

1 hour ago, eatsleep said:

Is Karine's face assymetrical or is she always sneering sidelong and side eyeing? I can't tell.

Karine has an acne problem and I think it's all the above- asymmetrical, sneering sidelong,and side eyeing.  She looks a lot like her mother. And her mother doesn't look great and is probably about 45 years old.  Uber-weirdo Paul stated he carries his mother's hair and Karine's hair in his backpack.  

[magemaud]

The left side of Karine’s face always looks lumpy and puffy to me. 

[seacliffsal]

I don't really see evidence to back up that Paul's mother is racist and therefore hasn't spoken with Karine.  Maybe it's because I wouldn't want to encourage Paul in this relationship and, due to the fact I can add and subtract, I wouldn't trust Karine about the baby being his.  Whenever Paul's mother cautioned him about marriage it was because of HIM.  She also on the tell nothing (tm someone brilliant) said that HE was difficult to live with (she used some other language).  I think that mother and father want nothing to do with this situation because they know that somehow it will become their responsibility and they will have to pay for everything, take in everybody, or all of the above.  I think they know there is something seriously wrong with Paul but that they are helpless in resolving it/dealing with it.

[BradandJanet]

What dog in its right mind would take orders from Pole? 

[Rdh1314]

Pole's mother has  made it pretty clear that she knows her son is seriously deranged and does not want to sponsor his latest obsession with lumpy faced Kreeny. And poor Pole's father is too ashamed of them to appear on camera.

Edited October 17, 2018 by Rdh1314
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[CoachWristletJen]

2 hours ago, Rdh1314 said:

Pole's mother has  made it pretty clear that she knows her son is seriously deranged and does not want to sponsor his latest obsession with lumpy faced Karine. And poor Pole's father is too ashamed of them to appear on camera.

Now that's interesting. Is there someplace where she has said words to this effect? Or is it just her attitude in general? 

I found this new article online about Pole. It's an interview with his ex-girlfriend who was previously afraid to come forward. I don't know what made her change her mind, but there's something oddly specific about the types of experiences she describes. It has a ring of truth to it if you ask me.

https://soapdirt.com/90-day-fiance-paul-staehles-ex-girlfriend-relationship-horror-exclusive-interview/?fbclid=IwAR3xlEYxpISSfFh1a6aL39ltmyuEaBf0LAAYKO2Acu-YZu3S0pKcnAMdw8M

[CoachWristletJen]

On 10/7/2018 at 5:24 PM, Cherrio said:

That scene where he is insisting she "fala" with him, you can see him escalate.  I can easily see him get very dangerous. especially if he thinks he is going to be humiliated on national tv.

I do think Karine could be killed, maybe even her mother because its clear he thinks she is trying to get rid of him.

TLC doesn't care, in fact the worse it is, the better they like it (money)

I hope someone can stop this. Paul needs to be somewhere like a locked ward.

That's the scene I was remembering by the river. He did escalate and he was scary! 

When they went over Pole's extensive criminal history which he lied to minimize, Karine said he was never violent with her, but I think she may have been lying to protect him.

I could see him freaking out and making some jarring violent move if someone spooked him or he thought they were going to leave. Then he would pretend to be oh so sorry afterward. Then he would miss them and carry around their hair.

[Rdh1314]

10 minutes ago, CoachWristletJen said:

That's the scene I was remembering by the river. He did escalate and he was scary! 

When they went over Pole's extensive criminal history which he lied to minimize, Karine said he was never violent with her, but I think she may have been lying to protect him.

I could see him freaking out and making some jarring violent move if someone spooked him or he thought they were going to leave. Then he would pretend to be oh so sorry afterward. Then he would miss them and carry around their hair.

Well God yes he's gonna carry the hair around with him.  

[Kareem]

20 minutes ago, CoachWristletJen said:

Now that's interesting. Is there someplace where she has said words to this effect? Or is it just her attitude in general? 

...

At the Tell All, she said she knows that Paul is "a challenge".  Shaun asked if his mother would have to co-sponsor Karine and Paul said possibly, but that it would be subject to Father's approval and no one had asked Father yet.  Mother said Father had not approved of this early on.

[jaybird2]

i know this is an odd question but this has been bothering me since the scene in their apt when paul was telling karine he had to leave.  there were 2 animal crates in their apt, one was fairly large.  i've never seen them with a pet or heard them talking about a pet.

[magemaud]

3 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

I don't really see evidence to back up that Paul's mother is racist and therefore hasn't spoken with Karine. 

Who CAN speak with Karine unless they are adept at using a translation device! 

Recently, there was some post by Paul about him and Karine "tragically losing two babies." Do you think she has miscarried since the Tell All? Then there was other posts saying she was expecting twins! If she has trouble keeping a pregnancy, perhaps genetic testing is a good idea and that's what Paul means when he says "DNA test" not just for paternity. 

[magemaud]

5 minutes ago, jaybird2 said:

i know this is an odd question but this has been bothering me since the scene in their apt when paul was telling karine he had to leave.  there were 2 animal crates in their apt, one was fairly large.  i've never seen them with a pet or heard them talking about a pet.

There has been quite a discussion of the dog crates earlier in this thread. Nothing was said or shown during the season about dogs but now there is some evidence that Paul is home in KY, working for a dog trainer, and has two German Shepherd puppies. Maybe he got them in Brazil? 

[Rdh1314]

22 minutes ago, jaybird2 said:

i know this is an odd question but this has been bothering me since the scene in their apt when paul was telling karine he had to leave.  there were 2 animal crates in their apt, one was fairly large.  i've never seen them with a pet or heard them talking about a pet.

Paul was always shown roaming the dusty streets and frequently you'd see the random mongrel roaming around too.  Maybe Paul started collecting unwanted dogs.

20 minutes ago, magemaud said:

Who CAN speak with Karine unless they are adept at using a translation device! 

Recently, there was some post by Paul about him and Karine "tragically losing two babies." Do you think she has miscarried since the Tell All? Then there was other posts saying she was expecting twins! If she has trouble keeping a pregnancy, perhaps genetic testing is a good idea and that's what Paul means when he says "DNA test" not just for paternity. 

It's hard to know what to believe..I saw something about Jesse getting a role in some movie,  but then it was deleted.  

[CoachWristletJen]

23 minutes ago, Kareem said:

At the Tell All, she said she knows that Paul is "a challenge".  Shaun asked if his mother would have to co-sponsor Karine and Paul said possibly, but that it would be subject to Father's approval and no one had asked Father yet.  Mother said Father had not approved of this early on.

Makes sense. Arson and stalking are probably not the only bad things that he's done. They're just the ones he's gotten caught at.

Paul's kind of like an Asperger-y sociopath. He can blame one on the other and vice-versa ad nauseam. All in all, a nightmare to communicate with. I'm sure his mother's seen it all, including the herky jerky violent side. (I can just hear it now, "Paul's got a low frustration threshold, just like Father...") He said he did the bad things because he got in with a bad crowd. ("Everyone was burning down their houses that night so I just went along with it...")

Mother Pole looked crestfallen at the prospect of having a grandchild in Brazil, but she probably does know how irresponsible her son is. If I were his mom, I'd be worried about him doing something stupid and getting himself incarcerated again, unable to work and take care of Karine who has no marketable skills and zero command of the English language. She might need significant schooling before she can pass a GED equivalency exam, but who knows? Perhaps most importantly, she's shown absolutely no interest whatsoever in working. It would probably be like pulling teeth to get her to help with housework at their home in Kentucky where they would live with Mother and Father.

More likely than not, Karine would run off with the baby, and for very good reason! She'd find some other guy to shack up with, but not marry. As a nonworking single mother, she would qualify for all kinds of benefits which the state would get back from Mother and Father Pole. I would think that Paul's parents would be on the hook for all that for Karine although not necessarily for the baby.  Again, Karine would still have zero marketable skills and zero desire to work. After serving time for violating the restraining order, Paul would get out and start perusing the internet for another Brazilian with hair exactly like Karine's, and Pole's parents would still be paying for Karine... out of obligation for the first 10 years, and then because they were so worried about their grandchild. There might be an aborted attempt at Community College, if she really applied herself, but I doubt it.

[magemaud]

21 minutes ago, Rdh1314 said:

I saw something about Jesse getting a role in some movie,  but then it was deleted.

I heard he was going to be on a European version of "The Bachelor." Oh wait, supposedly it was "The Bachelorette" so he would have been the one competing to get a rose and not in control. 

Edited October 17, 2018 by magemaud

[jaybird2]

31 minutes ago, magemaud said:

There has been quite a discussion of the dog crates earlier in this thread. Nothing was said or shown during the season about dogs but now there is some evidence that Paul is home in KY, working for a dog trainer, and has two German Shepherd puppies. Maybe he got them in Brazil? 

if he got dogs in brazil he wouldn't be able to bring into the u.s..  they would be quarantine for about six mos.

thanks for the info,

[Kath94]

17 minutes ago, CoachWristletJen said:

Makes sense. Arson and stalking are probably not the only bad things that he's done. They're just the ones he's gotten caught at.

Paul's kind of like an Asperger-y sociopath. He can blame one on the other and vice-versa ad nauseam. All in all, a nightmare to communicate with. I'm sure his mother's seen it all, including the herky jerky violent side. (I can just hear it now, "Paul's got a low frustration threshold, just like Father...") He said he did the bad things because he got in with a bad crowd. ("Everyone was burning down their houses that night so I just went along with it...")

Mother Pole looked crestfallen at the prospect of having a grandchild in Brazil, but she probably does know how irresponsible her son is. If I were his mom, I'd be worried about him doing something stupid and getting himself incarcerated again, unable to work and take care of Karine who has no marketable skills and zero command of the English language. She might need significant schooling before she can pass a GED equivalency exam, but who knows? Perhaps most importantly, she's shown absolutely no interest whatsoever in working. It would probably be like pulling teeth to get her to help with housework at their home in Kentucky where they would live with Mother and Father.

More likely than not, Karine would run off with the baby, and for very good reason! She'd find some other guy to shack up with, but not marry. As a nonworking single mother, she would qualify for all kinds of benefits which the state would get back from Mother and Father Pole. I would think that Paul's parents would be on the hook for all that for Karine although not necessarily for the baby.  Again, Karine would still have zero marketable skills and zero desire to work. After serving time for violating the restraining order, Paul would get out and start perusing the internet for another Brazilian with hair exactly like Karine's, and Pole's parents would still be paying for Karine... out of obligation for the first 10 years, and then because they were so worried about their grandchild. There might be an aborted attempt at Community College, if she really applied herself, but I doubt it.

Has there ever been an explanation for why Kreeny & Pole didn't try to get her to the U.S. with the fiancee visa?  That's the whole premise for the show, right?  They married in Brazil & now supposedly he's back in Kentucky to make money so he can return to Brazil.  Do you think there really are plans to bring her here, or is it just going to be a marriage of convenience where Pole travels to visit her occasionally?  That whole situation is just plain WEIRD.

[CoachWristletJen]

7 minutes ago, Kath94 said:

Has there ever been an explanation for why Kreeny & Pole didn't try to get her to the U.S. with the fiancee visa?  That's the whole premise for the show, right?  They married in Brazil & now supposedly he's back in Kentucky to make money so he can return to Brazil.  Do you think there really are plans to bring her here, or is it just going to be a marriage of convenience where Pole travels to visit her occasionally?  That whole situation is just plain WEIRD.

No. He said it was so her family could 'trust him' but I think that's just more lies.

I wonder if it's harder to get a K-1 visa approved if the U.S. citizen has a criminal record? That was my first suspicion, anyway.

Also, he spoke about sponsorship. However between the money from the show and working for his dad's company, he should be fine.

This business of running home to work a few months and then flying back all the while maintaining an apartment for her to lie around in seems impractical and bizarre, but I don't know if that's really registered in his mind. His mind ain't right.

Edited October 17, 2018 by CoachWristletJen

[iwasish]

Pole posted pics of Karine with a guy. He’s saying they are revenge porn and wants posters to help track the guy down so Karine can prosecute.  Somethings fishy, and I don’t know if Pole is playing gamed with her or it’s truly a revenge porn. The pics are pretty mild and unless there are more graphic ones, it’s really nothing.

[doyouevengohere]

Why would he repost revenge porn of his wife filmed by another man on his own social media account?  It just sounds like an underhanded attempt to embarrass Karine ("but i'm trying to help you by sharing whore pictures of you that another man took that shows you were probably messing around with another guy!").  He always seems to want to play the victim and try to justify acting like an ass to his current love interest.  Karine could be whoring around , so just end it with her and move on ,loser Pol.  He's probably planning to burn down her house or spraypaint "cheater " on the side of their house.  He just ain't right.

Edited October 17, 2018 by doyouevengohere

[pollywood]

I thought they got married in brazil because it would be cheaper than the K-1 and bringing her over, and so karine's family could be there. 

I know someone who believes karine is a cam girl. anybody know if this is true?

[Kareem]

This was mentioned on Twitter. 

 

[Major Bigtime]

He posted this just now on Facebook:

Quote

A man posts sex videos on the internet of himself and my wife. I try to help her get his full name for her police report. And get people to help us find all the places he posted the sex videos so we can have police help remove. But I am the bad guy.

I’m almost sure that baby is not his, and I think he is thinking that also, hence the DNA test request.

[Baltimore Betty]

19 minutes ago, Kareem said:

This was mentioned on Twitter. 

 

Well, one could say a lot about these pics but I will say just this, Karine is actually smiling, she looks really happy and maybe the baby will look like him.

[CoachWristletJen]

6 hours ago, doyouevengohere said:

Why would he repost revenge porn of his wife filmed by another man on his own social media account?  It just sounds like an underhanded attempt to embarrass Karine ("but i'm trying to help you by sharing whore pictures of you that another man took that shows you were probably messing around with another guy!").  He always seems to want to play the victim and try to justify acting like an ass to his current love interest.  Karine could be whoring around , so just end it with her and move on ,loser Pol.  He's probably planning to burn down her house or spraypaint "cheater " on the side of their house.  He just ain't right.

 

My thoughts exactly.  Paul's account would only serve to get the photos more exposure. Not like he's really playing 'detective.' He'd better hope that someone doesn't actually turn the photos over to local law enforcement and said, "Paul's looking for this guy." I have a hunch Paul is the guy. Now he's just burning down his own house metaphorically.

Karine looks younger in the photos. Happier, too. That guy has a nice build. They look good together.

A haircut and a Proactiv kit work wonders for this chick, obviously.

BTW, he's an ass to be stressing her out right now.

Edited October 17, 2018 by CoachWristletJen

[Kareem]

18 minutes ago, Major Bigtime said:

He posted this just now on Facebook:

I’m almost sure that baby is not his, and I think he is thinking that also, hence the DNA test request.

What a horrible discovery that must have been for him. I don't have much Paul pity but that's awful.  

[iwasish]

How many times will he mention “sex videos” and drum up interest in them under the guise of helping poor pregnant Karine?

But I can’t feel sorry for her. She had an out when she lost the first baby but went back to him. 

[AZChristian]

12 hours ago, jaybird2 said:

if he got dogs in brazil he wouldn't be able to bring into the u.s..  they would be quarantine for about six mos.

thanks for the info,

I don't think your statements are correct.  According to the US Customs and Border Protection Information Center website, "Quarantine for dogs is not required by most U.S. states and territories."  There will need to be proof of vaccinations, though.

[kacesq]

I thought it was established after the last season that Paul was denied for the K1 visa?

[CoachWristletJen]

35 minutes ago, kacesq said:

I thought it was established after the last season that Paul was denied for the K1 visa?

Did they say why he was denied?

[kacesq]

30 minutes ago, CoachWristletJen said:

Did they say why he was denied?

 

I could've sworn it was his criminal convictions....

[hookedontv]

I’m secretly hoping the baby’s father is the translator guy that was shown in several episodes (looking very uncomfortable at the ridiculousness of what he had to translate.)

Both Karine and her mom always had big smiles to greet him lol. 

[CoachWristletJen]

55 minutes ago, kacesq said:

 

I could've sworn it was his criminal convictions....

That would have been my first thought, too. They're trying to protect silly Karine from her own dumb choices. Just like they're trying to protect silly Rachel from her own dumb choices.

Edited October 17, 2018 by CoachWristletJen

[doyouevengohere]

She looks younger in those pictures.  It could have been pre-Pol.  If Karine isn't fixated on coming to the US , I don't know why she's with Pol.  He freakin left her to be hacked to death in the park when a guy stole her cell phone.  He's a scary arsonist.  He seems to be controlling and weird.  He has no money; and if she does come to the US she will be living in a basement or an extended stay hotel and Pol will control everything she does.  Are a few stuffed poop emoji's worth all that?   I still believe that she came across as slovenly and lazy on this show because Pol sucks the life out of her and makes her depressed about everything. I also don't think he will let her do anything - like be in school or have a job while he is over there. That mixed with pregnancy is a bad combo.  I hope she gets out of this marriage.  Life is too short to hitch your wagon to someone like Pol.  She could be happier.  See the light, Karine.

[Rdh1314]

I heard Rachel was living in England with cro-magnum butt ugly Jon.  Kreenie and her ilk  (other 20 yr. Olds from  Russia, Columbia. Brazil) know what they're doing when they post provocative pictures.  Sex sells.  So you have "men" like Pole who know their chances of actually being in a relationship with any sane person in the United states are basically zero, shop for these tarts.  Pole's just a horny seriously disturbed guy in his mid-30s.  Kreenie is young and I don't think she had any idea how bad things could get, but when Pole ran away when she was being mugged,  that should have been a big clue that he's a selfish psychopath. But Kreenie, she's no genius.  

[magemaud]

My recollection might be hazy, but I thought Paul ran away (lumbering like an alligator up the hill and leaving her alone with the camera crew,) before Karine was approached by the machete wielding mugger and so he missed the whole thing. At the time, and still today, I thought it might have all been staged drama. 

[Rdh1314]

1 minute ago, magemaud said:

My recollection might be hazy, but I thought Paul ran away (lumbering like an alligator up the hill and leaving her alone with the camera crew,) before Karine was approached by the machete wielding mugger and so he missed the whole thing. At the time, and still today, I thought it might have all been staged drama. 

Well if it was a staged drama, then not only is Pol a psychologically dangerous person but he's stupid too.  Why would he go along with that filming that made him look so bad? And you're right. He was lumbering like an alligator up the hill.?

[Rdh1314]

Paul had an interview with US Weekly.   This is their 3rd pregnancy.  

[CoachWristletJen]

4 minutes ago, Rdh1314 said:

Paul had an interview with US Weekly.   This is their 3rd pregnancy.  

He's even more of an idiot to be stressing her out then! The consensus seems to be that Pol's the one posting the photos.

It's almost like he's just desperate to interact with her and this is his way of getting some kind of intensity from her. He's one sick pup! Blech.

[CoachWristletJen]

Mike, the nice young man in the photos has responded to "Pol" on his Instagram. Among other things, he wrote:

"I have sooo [sic] much I could say, u [you] have no idea Paul. I’m not going to embarrass Karine more than you already have. Not everyone is for marriage! Some people are just fun to hook up with for a good time. It doesn’t make them bad people but that’s why u [sic] don’t go into situations blind,” Mike wrote. “What’s funny about this is she has sent me lots of videos. Of her by herself doing all type of wild shit. I’ve never even showed [sic] anyone pole, so it’s u bringing this to light right now. I’m sure I’m not the only one she sent those videos to. U [sic] just happen to have a pic of me with her.”

He seems determined to rub it in, but my guess is that he's only doing that because he's mad at Paul for falsely accusing him of posting the stuff. 

Also, he claims not to have even taken the topless photo, but that photo appears to have been taken in the same room (the curtains match). Mike also wrote:

"Where’s the video dumb a–?? U [sic] are lying. That is why you’re the bad guy. U [sic] keep repeating that I’m posting a sex video, and I have not. I don’t know where you got your little photo collage from, but I didn’t make that either and I don’t appreciate u [sic] posting my face into your drama,” Mike wrote. “I will not be an episode of ur [sic] show, u [sic] want to use my image then cut me a f–kin check.”

Still, I tend to believe that Mike did not post these photos publicly. He really doesn't seem to have a vendetta against Karine. That's Paul's department.

So, to reiterate. I think Mike did take all three photos, but Paul posted the photos publicly.

Edited October 17, 2018 by CoachWristletJen

[magemaud]

20 minutes ago, Rdh1314 said:

Paul had an interview with US Weekly.   This is their 3rd pregnancy.  

I remember reading about him saying something about losing two babies to miscarriage, so that would make sense. Karine must be very fertile to get pregnant so easily. Depending on when he's been in Brazil, that could easily raise his suspicions as to whom the father is. 

I agree that Karine looks younger (and prettier) in those photos so they might have been Pre-Pol. And I wonder what happened to the body builder guy that she was messaging with and Paul confronted her about. 

[pollywood]

1 hour ago, magemaud said:

My recollection might be hazy, but I thought Paul ran away (lumbering like an alligator up the hill and leaving her alone with the camera crew,) before Karine was approached by the machete wielding mugger and so he missed the whole thing. At the time, and still today, I thought it might have all been staged drama. 

he did run before, and I agree about it being staged.

[iwasish]

1 hour ago, Rdh1314 said:

Paul had an interview with US Weekly.   This is their 3rd pregnancy.  

Maybe Karine was drinking some of that tea that Hazel used? 

I can’t see that Karine really wants a baby, especially not  with Paul.

[Rdh1314]

Just now, iwasish said:

Maybe Karine was drinking some of that tea that Hazel used? 

I can’t see that Karine really wants a baby, especially not  with Paul.

LOL!!!! I  was thinking the same thing!  Hazel with the personality of a limp noodle. ?

[Gobi]

Only reason I can think of for Karine to stick with Polecat is that he's the only one who was willing to marry her and bring her to the US. She really ducked that question about staying out all night on the Tell Nothing.

[Rdh1314]

Paul sounded delusionally positive in his interview regarding him and Kreenie having a long, happy future ahead of them.  That girl is lucky she's in Brazil or else she would need a restraining order too.  Paul - and his mother- look like they're heading towards mutual nervous breakdowns.