S05.E08: The After Show, Part 2

[frenchtoast]

Host Daphne Oz gets the Dugars' reactions to some of the biggest moments of the season; the couples square off in a fun game of "the Couples Showdown"; a special guest or two show up.

[kokapetl]

Jimbob talks about the questionnaire: 15 pages.

Daphne Oz must've really put the family at ease, because Joy sits on a reclined Austyn Martyn's crotch. 

[VioletNevermind]

MEchelle talks like a wise older mom whose nest is empty of her own kids, but is filling with grandkids.  Hey, you useless sack of crap, you still have eight underage children at home!

Edited July 25, 2017 by SuzyLee

[flyingdi]

Even Jim Bob doesn't see Jinger having a kid soon.

John David is so flirting with Daphne!

[drafan]

Can't believe I got sucked into this crapfest......the snark just writes itself though......

Jessa, reality pro that she is, sure knew how to head off the "Who's the LEAST handsy of the married Duggs?" question, since she knew they would all point at her.  LOL

Mullet and JB are surprise guests? ...worming their way in via the grandkids? ....when we all know they've been there out of camera range the entire time.

Spurgeon needs a haircut in the worst way, but then he will become a total mini-JB, so maybe not.

JD is such a rube...if this was an ad to find him a wife, he just lost some ground.

Kendra's dad looks younger than Joe. And way cuter.

[madpsych78]

What is with JD? Is he trying to profit from his "Bachelor till the Rapture" glory day? Like pretty much everything he said was an attempt to be funny.

[TigerLily20]

I feel like Jessa is trying to give Ben the answers in code by blinking at him.............

[VioletNevermind]

Bin has the better singing voice?!  "Does anybody here believe that??" 

[SMama]

Perhaps because he is the only one who sings something other than holy hymns?

[Chicklet]

Oh that was so painful. Obviously I'm a masochist.

[TigerLily20]

Still no mention of Jill......

[Genevrier]

I fell asleep, unsurprisingly, then woke up in the middle of the Putnam show preview. I thought I was having a nightmare. 

 

Hey Jim Bob, 19x5=95. 

 

Its as if Joy has come back to life. I wonder if she's been depressed over the past few years. She seems to have some spark again. 

[SMama]

I do not watch, what did Boob say to give the impression he is not expecting Jinger to have a child soon? I thought the questionnaire was 50 pages. Is Boob trying to engage in control damage? That worked really well with Josh.

[TigerLily20]

4 minutes ago, Genevrier said:

Its as if Joy has come back to life. I wonder if she's been depressed over the past few years. She seems to have some spark again. 

I'm just going to say it's the sex lol.....

[kcrabtree06]

My thoughts on this: JinJer is my favorite couple and Jeremy is my favorite Duggar spouse. I was cracking up when he put "BAAAAAAAAAABE!!" as his answer for the pet names. Kendra seems sweet enough, but her and Joe are a real snoozefest for me.

[Adeejay]

Jessa seemed nervous during the Newlywed Games. She kept looking at her husband; almost as if she was afraid of what he might say.  In the meantime, the other couples appeared to be at ease and having fun.  I can understand why Joy fell for Austin; he seems easy going and has a good sense of humor.  If I didn’t know they were in a courtship, I’d think Joe and Kendra were meeting for the first time. 

Hey Jim Bob, ten sons and four additional sons, equals 14 sons.  Clearly, math is not one of his strong suits.  

[Wheels08]

SMama- Jim Bob and Mechelle were talking about how many grandkids they could have and Jim Bob said that maybe a joy and Austin would be the next ones to have a baby and then someone said or Jeremy and Jinger. And Jim Bob said something like oh yeah or Jeremy and Jinger.

[Annb67]

13 minutes ago, Genevrier said:

I fell asleep, unsurprisingly, then woke up in the middle of the Putnam show preview. I thought I was having a nightmare. 

 

Hey Jim Bob, 19x5=95. 

 

Its as if Joy has come back to life. I wonder if she's been depressed over the past few years. She seems to have some spark again. 

Austin must be great in the sack. Off to the prayer closet...

[SMama]

Thank you @Wheels08. From Boob's mouth to Jeremy's ears.

[Annb67]

9 minutes ago, kcrabtree06 said:

My thoughts on this: JinJer is my favorite couple and Jeremy is my favorite Duggar spouse. I was cracking up when he put "BAAAAAAAAAABE!!" as his answer for the pet names. Kendra seems sweet enough, but her and Joe are a real snoozefest for me.

Yeah, watching this, despite his religious beliefs, I really like Jeremy. I bet he thinks the Duggars are crazy as hell.

[JocelynCavanaugh]

20 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

Jessa seemed nervous during the Newlywed Games. She kept looking at her husband; almost as if she was afraid of what he might say.  In the meantime, the other couples appeared to be at ease and having fun. 

I noticed that too, but I assumed it's because Jessa is by far the most Type A sister and would rather die than lose, but also doesn't want to look competitive or jealous.

[woodscommaelle]

I think Ben hates his wife.

[flyingdi]

I think Jessa is just nervous in

1. Situations she can't control.

2. Being with/talking to people she hasn't known for years.

3. Any situation where she'll be embarrassed.

4.  Any situation where she won't know how to respond.

 

For all Jessa's bitchiness, I don't think Jinger is the only Duggar with self esteem problems.

[sheshark]

So what happened to the previewed question from last week?  "Where was the most unusual place you have had...bible study?

Edited July 25, 2017 by sheshark

[woodscommaelle]

Hah! Ben was doodling. And those bells looked good. I hear talk of Jana and a tattoo shop? Maybe he can get a job there.

Edited July 25, 2017 by woodscommaelle

[Magoo]

Newlywed Game- best part of honeymoon:

Jeremy: "The evenings." Wink  

Jinger:  "being alone."

Host - repeating: "being along...down under."

Me: "har har har." I'm twelve. 

[ginger90]

Were Jim Bob and Michelle there to collect Jill and Derick's check?

[madpsych78]

31 minutes ago, flyingdi said:

For all Jessa's bitchiness, I don't think Jinger is the only Duggar with self esteem problems.

Yeah, but the way they each present their self-esteem issues is completely different.

I'm actually of the opinion that Joy has the fewest issues with self-esteem of the Duggar ladies.

[Magoo]

2 minutes ago, madpsych78 said:

Yeah, but the way they each present their self-esteem issues is completely different.

I'm actually of the opinion that Joy has the fewest issues with self-esteem of the Duggar ladies.

I liked how both Austin and Joy said they weren't afraid of anything.  Ahhh, youth.  But nice.  

And I really liked Jessa's answer to Ben's hidden talents. It was sweet.  Spanish guitar? Who knew?

[Pinke]

Like others have noted, the contrast between Ben and Jessa and the other couples was noticeable. Everybody else seemed to have fun and be at ease with their partner, and there they were... They looked like they were really trying at times to look ''happy/normal'', but overall they seemed tense and not like they were enjoying themselves. There's no more spark (whatever there was to start with) between them. They both looked so done.

Ben's comment about Jessa worrying about her weight... It looked like Jessa wasn't too pleased that he'd disclose that. I don't think it came from a bad place in Ben's case, but it was maybe a bit too personal for a public, rather light-hearted game. Although I have a feeling that it's a topic/concern that must be coming up rather often, given that he went for that answer.

Lastly... I thought it was interesting that Jessa didn't come up with an answer (well, she drew a question mark on her board) when it came to a question along the lines of ''I wish my spouse would stop _____''. It's actually quite possible Jessa had things in mind yet did not want to bring them up, but the way she explained her lack of answer smacked to me of indifference towards Ben. I found it a bit sad.

It's quite possible I am reading too much into this, but that is the vibe I'm getting from those two, overall.

Edited July 25, 2017 by PinkyCupcake

[Spencer Hastings]

Jessa and Ben just seem really annoyed with each other.  They're definitely in that stage where your spouse is just there...breathing....and you want to punch them in the face for it.  She seemed really concerned about what he would reveal (the weight answer seemed to really irk her), while he was trying to have a little fun with drawing and giving cute answers.  It could just be that they're not getting enough sleep/having two kids so young and back to back sucks.  I also thought it was interesting that Jessa had them practice what they would say beforehand and Ben just deviated from the system they'd worked out.

Jeremy and Jinger seem to be good for each other.  He can poke fun at her (Baaaaaaaaaaaabe) but also be supportive and honest.  I think she probably doubts herself at a lot more than just cooking, but he was sensitive to the fact that cooking was probably the safest example.  He can't very well be like "She's afraid to do ANYTHING without my approval or reassurance..."

Austin is funnier than I imagined him being.  Joy is certainly enjoying him.

I really liked how protective Josiah was of Joy and her banter back at him about how he was the only one who was worried.  They seemed like normal brother and sister, something that we rarely see with this group.  I even laughed when she corrected him about her eye color until I remembered that they were inseparable until a certain age.  It still bothers me that they had to stop being best friends. 

[Celia Rubenstein]

Of course Jana was the one who got up to wrangle Spurgeon when he took off after the ball. Old habits die hard, I guess. Lol I know, she was sitting closest and was in the best position to go fetch him ... But it just felt like, oh of course Jana will be the one to do it. Like always.

She looked a bit forlorn there at the end of the couch. Did they even bother to ask her about being in a courtship, or has that entire subject just been shelved?  I know the topic has been beaten to death and she's probably sick of answering the same old question. But it feels like it's just become a foregone conclusion that there is no man in Jana's life, so there is no point in even asking anymore.  

I'm not sure which is worse - constantly being quizzed about your romantic life, or having people not bothering to even wonder anymore. 

[GeeGolly]

Ben probably sat in the naughty chair when they got home from taping. He didn't follow the predetermined answers that Jessa had decided on prior to the Newlywed Game. You'd think after a year long courtship and three years of marriage Ben & Jessa would have a familiar groove to their relationship. I'm guessing maybe their groove is Jessa barks orders and Ben obeys.

Joy, Austin and JD seemed to be relaxed enough to be themselves. It could almost be an enjoyable show if they'd all be real.

[Fuzzysox]

9 hours ago, Chicklet said:

Oh that was so painful. Obviously we're all masochists.

Fixed it because we  all like abuse and continue to watch this crapfest.

Edited July 25, 2017 by Fuzzysox

[LolaGeek]

Longtime reader, second time poster, wanted to share this GIF I made because... wth Joy?

[humbleopinion]

Side saddle cowgirl action....

[luvbadtv]

I know they are married now, but how is all that PDA modest?  It tends to make most people uncomfortable.  I don't know of anyone in my regular life that exhibits as much PDA as Joy & Austin did.  

This show would be more interesting if these kids gave some honest answers/commentary.  When Jessa blathered on about how it's different having your own child, she skewed the facts.  She really was raising her siblings, not babysitting, not handing them off to their mother when they got fussy.  It would be great to hear how she really feels - raising siblings just being a chore or something like that.

[sigmaforce86]

10 hours ago, TigerLily20 said:

10 hours ago, Genevrier said:

Its as if Joy has come back to life. I wonder if she's been depressed over the past few years. She seems to have some spark again. 

I'm just going to say it's the sex lol.....

You beat me to it - I was going to say: She got laid.  They're definitely in the honeymoon period; there was a lot of hand sex going on over Jessa's shoulder.

I feel a little sorry for Ben; I think his real talent may be in things that are creative but he wasn't and never will be encouraged to become and artist or musician or even graphic designer.  Not that I'm saying he's Picasso or Jagger or anything like that but he could have made something from what natural talent he has and he seems to enjoy it and I think in both the Dugger and fundie world it would be considered a useless and "worldly" pursuit.  

Jeremy was hysterical with the "Why do you change the diaper if it's not dirty?" and the realization that kids pee too.  I'll give him a nervousness pass for that but it was pretty funny.  He also came up with the most real moment of the night when he talked about Jinger not believing in herself and he was at least sweet and calm about it;  he didn't try to sound frustrated or mocking which was really nice.  Knowing she's been wearing pants and shorts and finding her way around Laredo on her own (especially compared to Jill the husband clinger) it seems like she's growing, he's helping her and there's hope for them having what we might call a more normal married life.

[woodscommaelle]

1 hour ago, LolaGeek said:

Longtime reader, second time poster, wanted to share this GIF I made because... wth Joy?

I really cannot stand Joy.  Any 'attempts' at humor by her are not funny. Not at all.

[bichonblitz]

6 hours ago, Spencer Hastings said:

Austin is funnier than I imagined him being.  Joy is certainly enjoying him.

Yes, I was pleasantly surprised the guy has a great personality. Not like a robot which is portrayed on the show. 

I was also surprised they all agreed Derek and Jill showed the most PDA of them all. That's something else we don't see on the show. 

I thought it odd that Jimboob predicted Joy and Austin would be the next to have a baby. The look on Jinge and Jer's face was priceless. I don't think Jer is all that fond of Jimboob and vice versa. 

Jana is sooo pretty. 

Edited July 25, 2017 by bichonblitz

[humbleopinion]

Giving Joy a pass because you could always catch glimpses of her muttering throughout the years...she has always had things to say, funny or not, but no one wanted or cared to hear them.

Austin is a boy in love/lust and will listen to anything...look at that smile on his face...he is in that sex fog/haze... hearing blah blah blah blah...and thinking of last night's sexy time and tonight's sexy time...

EnJOY the honeymoon phase ...

Edited July 25, 2017 by humbleopinion

[floridamom]

Don't Austin and Joy realize that that's not appropriate to sit like that around others?

[madpsych78]

20 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

I thought it odd that Jimboob predicted Joy and Austin would be the next to have a baby. The look on Jinge and Jer's face was priceless. I don't think Jer is all that fond of Jimboob and vice versa. 

In all fairness, the Boob might be spot on. I'm just surprised it came from him.

[humbleopinion]

Lap dancing for the TLC camera is their FU to their side hugging past

Edited July 25, 2017 by humbleopinion

[Pinke]

1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

I was also surprised they all agreed Derek and Jill showed the most PDA of them all. That's something else we don't see on the show.

I was not surprised to hear that myself (if it's true, anyway). Those two seem like obnoxious jackasses, so that kind of behavior is par for the course.

Edited July 25, 2017 by PinkyCupcake

[Maya]

I think we all need to give a moment of thanks that Derek wasn't playing this game. He thinks he's so clever and hilarious under normal circumstances, can you imagine him unleashed in a situation like this?

[floridamom]

I think these types of people have the over to top modesty rules when single, then what happens after marriage? Why do they believe that over the top displays of 'affection' are appropriate in front of others? (dry humping on a mini golf course, anyone?) If a person believes in living a modest lifestyle, that doesn't go away right after saying "I do"...it's a belief and lifestyle you carry with you all of your life, IMO. This family sticks to beliefs only for as long as it suits them; which is not honest. Once again, guys, I'm giving my opinion on this.

Displays that mimic sex aren't modest before AND after marriage. Joy knew exactly what she was doing. She's finally getting some attention here and she's lovin' it.

[Marigold]

Winner:  Austin-he has some personality!

Loser:  Jessa -she looked controlling and tense. Yikes!  Jessa is really damaged from her upbringing.  

[Adeejay]

Jessa needs to stop whining about having to court for a “whole year”.  Someone should point out to her that this was probably due to the fact that her “intended” was an unemployed 17 year old. 

[riverblue22]

7 hours ago, floridamom said:

Don't Austin and Joy realize that that's not appropriate to sit like that around others?

Why would they? Based on the mini golf display by Boob, Joy probably saw lots of inappropriate behavior from her parents.  And what kind of Boob commentary went along with the posted menstrual chart?

ETA:  I wonder if Jessa feels stressed when Bin mentions working out in response to her weight issues?  Bin has always worked out.  I doubt if Jessa is really all in on that, especially since having two children.  It just seems to be even more pressure on her to keep her before babies figure when Bin thinks working out is the easy answer.

And did Kendra seem pretty orange to anyone else?  Maybe she borrowed some self-tanner from sister wife Meri Brown.

Edited July 25, 2017 by riverblue22