S09.E06: Wishful Invitation

[LIMOM]

1 hour ago, Trooper York said:

Those baseball cards and comic books that were tossed were worth a big pile of beans. Mickey Mantle rookie card. Action Comics number 1. Star Wars action figures in the original wrapping.

Sure throw that stuff out. You never look at them. Useless clutter. What could go wrong?

Oh, I guess there was a glitch. I was wondering about the Dr Phil comment.

My hubby is still mad that his mom threw out his planet of the Apes action figures.

1 hour ago, Martinigirl said:

Okay, how many of you still have your old toys? Bet your parents tossed them out, right?

I was trained to give away my toys/clothes before getting new ones.

My cousins have my Barbies and asked me recently what to do with them. I replied that they were welcomed to do as they pleased.

One of my savvy friends admonished me as they are most likely worth  a fortune....

 Same with my old stamps collection that I gave away to a younger friend.

obviously I am deranged.

Edited May 11, 2017 by LIMOM

[RockClimb]

19 hours ago, bagger said:

 

Just once I wish someone would bring up Avery during a conversation that was less than positive.

Can you imagine if one of the HW's said to Ramona "Oh, Ramona, it was so awful how Mario cheated on you, and then paraded around the UES and the Hamptons with his much younger mistress.  Just so awful, it was all over the news. Do Avery's classmates ask her about it? Are you worried that it will impact her ability to trust men? "

[Natalie68]

3 hours ago, QuinnM said:

And she's 6.  Kids outgrow things mentally and physically.  So everyone moves on.  She wasn't throwing out the American Girl crapola because Brynn loves these, i.e. she is still playing actively with this.  It's NYC.  There is no room.  No basement, no garage, no attic.  This is it.  4 square walls.  Use it or lose it.  One of my favorite bits from last year was Bethenny going at Dorinda's closet with her.  It's what she does.  I personally would rather live with a tosser than a hoarder.

THIS is what Bethenny should do as another reality show.  I love the ones that show decluttering.  Hoarders of the UES maybe?  

[KungFuBunny]

2 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Meant to add to my first post here - Tinsley's friend was soooo annoying. Also she apparently doesn't know that you can actually buy strollers for pets. So rather than annoy other people with a child size car on a busy sidewalk, she could just put the dog in the pet stroller (which also has netting to keep the dog in in case he wanted to jump out) and most people would be none the wiser. Or in danger of a stupid child car hitting them, being driven by an even stupider person. 

I picture Anisha as the person I have to give the stink eye to that bashes me with the shopping cart in the grocery store cause she's too busy looking at her phone.

She was so absorbed with the remote control and bragging, I was waiting for that dog to end up in the intersection with oncoming traffic.

[Lindy Dear]

For Ramona to drag a 6 year old into such  an ugly, manufactured "issue" and then make up an endless haggle of mud-slinging nonsense speaks volumes about exactly how desperate she is to hang onto this show.  Absent this b.s. and her groaning fuss about Luann's beau (who cares anymore?...if they work they work and they don't they don't.)  this exploitation of a matter involving a minor child is  the only possible reason for her to still have air-time.  What else would there be?  She's STILL divorced?  She's dating duds?  She has "work" done!  Meh.   Ramona (and her agent...AND Bravo producers?) must have had quite the time coming up with this stretch for a story line.   Since Ramona would have no other reason to still be a viable "housewife",  nasty though it is (even for Bravo)....mission accomplished. 

[motorcitymom65]

2 hours ago, Trooper York said:

Those baseball cards and comic books that were tossed were worth a big pile of beans. Mickey Mantle rookie card. Action Comics number 1. Star Wars action figures in the original wrapping.

Sure throw that stuff out. You never look at them. Useless clutter. What could go wrong?

Except that the comment about "good luck on Dr. Phil" was in response to my comment that I use to throw away the Happy Meal crap. To my knowledge, the Happy Meal toys (including the plastic containers they sometimes came in which my son thought was part of the toy and would not part with) have not become big collectables. Maybe a Beannie Baby when they use to do that? I am sure someone will come up with another example, but for the most part, it is just crap. My kid didn't mind donating stuff, and we routinely did that before the holidays, but I am talking about crap. Crap that was trash and was not going to get donated to anyone because it was crap. 

Edited May 11, 2017 by motorcitymom65

[Natalie68]

3 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Totally get that. Everyone has their own style. What works for one won't work for another. Simply a different style of parenting. I would never in a million years lay a hand on my children, while others do and tout the benefits. I will, however,  throw their shit in the trash and not think twice about it. Someone upthread mentioned that Carole should discipline her kittens by hitting them so that they wouldn't destroy the furniture which worked in the past for this person, but the thought makes me ill. Different strokes for different folks. 

It made me wince since I know while it may work its not the best way to treat any living creature.  Wouldn't hit a child/adult, I am not hitting a creature that doesn't speak my language, only knows I am larger than them, and depends on me.

I thought B leaving the conversation with R was the best thing to do.  I know B can give it but she can also take it.  I am assuming she didn't want to rip Ramona to shreds.  It wouldn't be a fair fight.  B has a wicked way with words that can cut ya to ribbons and R is just a spaz.

[motorcitymom65]

2 hours ago, Trooper York said:

At least they waited until you were out of kindergarten. 

Instead of taking the rattle right out of your hand  while you were still in a playpen.

There is time to destroy your kids memories and the safety they feel around his favorite familiar possessions.

Generally it is when they go away to college. 

Not when they are visiting their Dad and you throw away their stuff.

On TV. With your flying monkey laughing at your stuff.

The poor kid.

Most people don't wait until their kids are out of kindergarten to throw some shit away (or donate it, or whatever). Kids get a lot of crap throughout the year. My kids probably got over 20 random Christmas gifts from various friends and family. Not necessarily expensive stuff, but lots of little things. And a ton of stuff on their Birthdays. Then there are gifts at Easter and at other random times. Do you honestly think that the vast majority of parents are keeping all of this stuff until they reach some magical age when it is OK to have them part ways with the stuff? Trust me, most people are not. And if they are, they are probably Hoarders and you might be able to catch them on a much sadder reality show on another network. 

[Natalie68]

2 hours ago, Ki-in said:

Yikes, I thought a water bottle was the way one trained cats. 

I think it's gross how much they show the doggie accidents on this show and how untrained the dogs are. I understand that there may be some logistics in taking a dog out when you live in a high rise vs a house but geeze, get them some piddle pads or hire a dog walker or make an effort to walk this animal you chose to bring into your life.  If it's a puppy or an elder dog I can understand but otherwise I blame the owners.

Nope.  Its silly but what has worked for me is distracting them away from the unwanted behavior with something they like.

[snarts]

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Luann is supposed to be all about etiquette, but it's extremely tacky to invite someone (in this case, Sonja) to a bridal shower and then not invite them to the wedding.  

The bride doesn't throw her own shower.  They are planned by other people and quite often a bride will have multiple showers (work, friends, family).  Luann has made it clear from the get go that her wedding a) would not be filmed for the show, and b) would exclude the majority of the housewives.  

Ramona:  If it's post-Thanksgiving and you haven't received an invite to a NYE wedding out of state, you're not getting one. 

[Atlanta]

Just now, snarts said:

The bride doesn't throw her own shower.  They are planned by other people and quite often a bride will have multiple showers (work, friends, family).  Luann has made it clear from the get go that her wedding a) would not be filmed for the show, and b) would exclude the majority of the housewives.  

Ramona:  If it's post-Thanksgiving and you haven't received an invite to a NYE wedding out of state, you're not getting one. 

The bride usually has final say on shower invites. It's very poor taste to invite one to the shower and not wedding. When I was engaged eons ago, I gave the host the list of people I wanted to invite.

[snarts]

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It's very poor taste to invite one to the shower and not wedding.

Damn, so I could've declined all the showers I've been invited to for co-workers over the years?  Who knew?

[zoeysmom]

5 hours ago, MMLEsq said:

Luann is supposed to be all about etiquette, but it's extremely tacky to invite someone (in this case, Sonja) to a bridal shower and then not invite them to the wedding.  

I believe Sonja was on the short list of invitees and between the shower and the time for sending out invites Sonja said negative things about Tom and Luann in the press.  The shower was in September for a very end of the December wedding.  I agree it is tacky to invite to a shower and not the wedding but I also think implied is the invitee not disparage the couple.  Luann addressed the reasons on the show with Sonja.  I will say Sonja just can't keep Tom's name out of her mouth. 

[WireWrap]

10 minutes ago, Atlanta said:

The bride usually has final say on shower invites. It's very poor taste to invite one to the shower and not wedding. When I was engaged eons ago, I gave the host the list of people I wanted to invite.

Those pictures we saw were from the Bachelorette party, not a wedding shower. That said, according to Luann, Sonja was going to be invited to the wedding but she kept badmouthing Luann/Tom in the press, so they cut her from the list. It's her own fault.

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, blueiris said:

Ramona has always had a sneer about her but she has developed a really nasty sounding cackle laugh that she uses at the end of her statements. Seems so medicated and sounds so nutty !

I agree - Ramona's manic laugh/cackle reminds me of the Wicked Witch of West from the Wizard of Oz.  

I think Ramona does that when she says something she thinks is incredibly witty, and laughs at her comment in the hope that someone else will join in.  Most times, it is a total fail.

55 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

THIS is what Bethenny should do as another reality show.  I love the ones that show decluttering.  Hoarders of the UES maybe?  

And, Bethenny's first house could be Sonja's townhouse.  

I truly think that Sonja hangs on to everything she has in her basement so that she doesn't have to look past it to see the crumbling walls and rusting pipes.

Edited May 11, 2017 by njbchlover
To put names where too many pronouns are.

[njbchlover]

17 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

I believe Sonja was on the short list of invitees and between the shower and the time for sending out invites Sonja said negative things about Tom and Luann in the press.  The shower was in September for a very end of the December wedding.  I agree it is tacky to invite to a shower and not the wedding but I also think implied is the invitee not disparage the couple.  Luann addressed the reasons on the show with Sonja.  I will say Sonja just can't keep Tom's name out of her mouth. 

Ha-ha....when I read this, I completely missed the word "name", and my brain went completely in the gutter!!    ;-)

 

ETA:  Maybe I'm more on point with what I was thinking, LOL!!!  

Edited May 11, 2017 by njbchlover

[AttackTurtle]

2 hours ago, Mojoker said:

You should try involving your son in the purge decisions sometime. Takes more time and effort for you, but teaches him to prioritize and organize. Children may technically have no possessions, and few decision-making rights, but they're still human beings entitled to an opinion. The few possessions I still have from my early childhood would have definitely seemed like garbage to my  mother at the time, but each small thing has, for me, a very important memory and meaning attached to it.

Sometimes its best to keep your opinions about how someone should parent to yourself.   My son is autistic...highly functioning, but autistic.   I try to minimize the number of tantrums I have in my home if I can help it.   I spend a lot of time with him so I'm pretty in tune with my child and what toys are important to him.  The unopened happy meal toys, plastic Easter eggs, arcade dime toys get the heave ho.

Regardless Im not about to give unsolicited advice to another parent as to how to parent.

Edited May 12, 2017 by AttackTurtle

[sasha206]

9 minutes ago, AttackTurtle said:

Sometimes its best to keep your opinions about how someone should parent to yourself.   My son is autistic...highly functioning, but autistic.   I try to minimize the number of tantrums I have in my home if I can help it.   I'm pretty in tune with my child and what toys are important to him.  The unopened happy meal toys, plastic Easter eggs, arcade dime toys get the heave ho.

Regardless Im not about to give unsolicited advice to another parent as to how to parent.

AMEN.  

[motorcitymom65]

11 minutes ago, AttackTurtle said:

Sometimes its best to keep your opinions about how someone should parent to yourself.   My son is autistic...highly functioning, but autistic.   I try to minimize the number of tantrums I have in my home if I can help it.   I'm pretty in tune with my child and what toys are important to him.  The unopened happy meal toys, plastic Easter eggs, arcade dime toys get the heave ho.

Regardless Im not about to give unsolicited advice to another parent as to how to parent.

Bravo. 

There are probably about a million things that folks could dislike about Beth.  But cleaning out the junk in her daughter's room? Seems like bitch eating crackers to me.  

[AttackTurtle]

1 minute ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Bravo. 

There are probably about a million things that folks could dislike about Beth.  But cleaning out the junk in her daughter's room? Seems like bitch eating crackers to me.  

Honestly I watched that scene & loved seeing that Bethenny gave her daughter an absolute fairy tale gorgeous room for her daughter.  The room was precious and I'm sure her daughter loves it too.  

[Trooper York]

So lets review what we learned this week.

Brown ice is not just for outside the dog park anymore.

When you can't talk about your ex because of a court order get your flying monkey to do it on TV where he can not defend himself.

The best way to take care of a dilapidated ripped item is to turn it inside out. Sort of explains some of the plastic surgery choices.

You should go through your children's possessions and throw them out without them knowing because you want to get them used to throwing things away. Clothes. Toys. Friends. Spouses. Parents. They are never too young to learn to throw everything away. You can never keep anything. They always leave you. 

When you want to honor your dear departed don't invite your significant other to support you....invite a camera crew.

It was a full episode.

Edited May 12, 2017 by Trooper York

[ryebread]

1 hour ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Except that the comment about "good luck on Dr. Phil" was in response to my comment that I use to throw away the Happy Meal crap. To my knowledge, the Happy Meal toys (including the plastic containers they sometimes came in which my son thought was part of the toy and would not part with) have not become big collectables. Maybe a Beannie Baby when they use to do that? I am sure someone will come up with another example, but for the most part, it is just crap. My kid didn't mind donating stuff, and we routinely did that before the holidays, but I am talking about crap. Crap that was trash and was not going to get donated to anyone because it was crap. 

But you missed out on the opportunity to make one of these!  I think this is the Christmas my kid gets one from all the little toys (junk or not) he loved as a kid.  Pretty cool  Make sure to check it out before she spray paints it.

Topic?  Yeah, people should raise their kids the way they want.  I threw out nothing. LOL

Edited May 12, 2017 by ryebread

[lezlers]

9 hours ago, thesupremediva1 said:

BINGO! Ever since Bethenny came back, I stopped feeling as though money might have been the key to happiness (though more of it would sure solve many of my problems, as I'm sure it would for most people). This woman is a total success story, and the other women are born into it or marry into it, and yet they all seem varying degrees of miserable. 

Their only storyline is Luann's wedding! If Lu and Tom weren't such a hot topic, the last two seasons would be dead in the water. The fact that we don't see more of Beth's SkinnyGirl business life makes me think that Jim Beam took most of the cache and left her with the less prestigious part of the franchise. All we see them doing is dating, or gossiping about Lu's fiancee. Is this the best we have to offer?

Sonja's fridge and house are a disgrace. I'll take my tiny little townhouse any day of the week. None of these women can be more than half Italian by descent - I was raised to believe you should be able to eat off your floors. Dirt and grime are the enemy. I'd never eat anything in Sonja or Carole's house. Sonja's house is full of pee-colored ice and dog droppings. I think Ramona's house smells about the same - laced with desperation over the fact that she still loves Mario. That makes me majorly sad for her. Not even in a schadenfreude way, I just find it genuinely tragic.

And it's a bit disturbing that my Ashley furniture is in better shape than anything in Carole's living room. I practically live in the palace of Versailles compared to her. What is going on there? Adam should move out... for his own health and safety. It looks positively booby-trapped in there.

Ramona and Beth have nice houses, but they're vile creatures to each other. Beth went so far off the reservation on Luann last year and now she flips her lid when Ramona asks her a bitchy question? Seriously? She's such a hypocrite. Did Luann get up and leave when you slugged the nastiest names on the planet at her in a temper tantrum the likes of which would have landed most women a smack to the face? No. Why does Bethenny feel she's so special and above reproach? I'm not saying Ramona was right, but Beth has done so much worse to people and she's trying crucify Ramona in the town square for what's a comparatively minor infraction. Her superiority complex is on full display.

No offense, Beth, but you shouldn't call Ramona crypt keeper. She might look waxen but her face looks far more youthful than yours these days...

Dorinda and Lu look fresh and fabulous, as always. Maybe Tom's a cad, and maybe Lu doesn't care, but she sure does look happy, and that is the best revenge you can have around this bunch.

I don't get this argument.   So because Beth lost her cool last season and went off on Luanne, that means she's supposed to just sit there and take verbal abuse from Ramona this season about something totally unrelated?  Why?  Ramona is just trying to get a reaction out of Bethanny.  The very best (and most mature) way to deal with it is to not give her the satisfaction.  I can't imagine that in every day life, if someone was being insulting towards you and obviously trying to start a fight with you, that anyone would give you grief because you walked away and didn't engage.  In fact, most people would applaud you for your self restraint.  

[ryebread]

46 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I agree - Ramona's manic laugh/cackle reminds me of the Wicked Witch of West from the Wizard of Oz.  

Luann has a maniacal laugh/cackle, too.  She does this weird shoulder shruggey thing when she does the cackle, like she hasn't a care in the world.  Or 'fiddle faddle, I'm better than you'. 

I dunno.  It's hard to explain. But every time she does it, I think, "I seeeeee you, Countess."

[sasha206]

Nevermind.

Edited May 12, 2017 by sasha206

[Trooper York]

1 minute ago, ryebread said:

I dunno.  It's hard to explain. But every time she does it, I think, "I seeeeee you, Countess."

HOLY COW BATMAN! 

An "Emberverse" reference. 

So mote it be!

[HunterHunted]

6 hours ago, Pop Tart said:

I've been trying to pin down just what Sonja's problem is with Tinsley given that she shared space pretty amicably with Luann. She had Luann living with her last year and was totally fine with her, so why is she being so passive-aggressive, and just downright aggressive, with Tinsley? I think it's that she is finding Tinsley a threat. With Luann she could feel that they were in the same boat. 50-something women trying to find that someone to spend the rest of their lives with - both having the same basic social circle and known to each and all for years. That Luann managed to get engaged is not something that Sonja expected (thus why Luann wasn't a threat). Sonja's nastiness to Lu last season all started after her serious relationship/engagement to Tom came to light. Up until then, Sonja could tell herself that her situation wasn't too bad, because Lu was in the same boat. Only when that changed did the aggression emerge.

With Tinsley, I think she thought here would be this person who would be dependent on her and was as screwed up as she was. Instead she's got a 20-year-younger version of herself in the house, one who is going out with her own friends and even scarier to Sonja, making friends in Sonja's circle. And by friends I think we can assume she's most worried about the men. Tinsley is everything Sonja has to offer, just a couple decades younger. So she's trying to proactively bring her down and undermine her confidence.

Tinsley is everything Sonja thought she could be. Sonja joined in 2009. The only thing that's improved for her is her bankruptcy. She's still in her falling down townhouse. Outside of this show, she doesn't seem to have much professional success. She doesn't seem to have any of the eligible bachelors swooning over her. And if anything, her reputation is worse. Additionally, Sonja's problem with her movie deal is she was busy defrauding the exact people had the money and connections to get her out of that mess.

Tinsley is 41 and still young enough to transform herself. She seems like she's joined the cast with a plan and comes from a wealthier family than Sonja's. For all of her actual issues, Tinsley's parents won't let become a laughing stock. Tinsley's problem was that she was too in love with fame and she was/maybe still is boy crazy.

[lezlers]

7 hours ago, sasha206 said:

Hannah loved Richard and that was nice to see.  However, there is something about her so off putting to me.  I feel like she's trying to glom onto her mom's fame and become a reality star.  She doesn't seem to really *do* anything except live off of Dorinda right?

I can't freaking stand her.  You can tell she's used to being the center of attention and is a spoiled, pampered little princess.  I'm fairly sure she's never done anything truly selfless in her entire life.

[sasha206]

Just now, lezlers said:

I can't freaking stand her.  You can tell she's used to being the center of attention and is a spoiled, pampered little princess.  I'm fairly sure she's never done anything truly selfless in her entire life.

Yeah, that's the vibe I get as well.  She also seems like she's a 13 year old rather than a grown woman.

[Feline Queen]

17 hours ago, ivygirl said:

Geez, did you happen to notice the name that shows up on Ramona's phone when she calls Dorinda? It took up the whole width of the screen, with tiny font at that! Wish I could see what it said.

It was Dorinda and Richard Medley

[Martinigirl]

12 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

I'm just going to throw out a suggestion and hopefully this lightens up the mood.

All no longer used stuffed animals should be sent to Kelly Bensimone who is glue gun ready.

She can reupholster Carole's couch.

I think I see Baby, Baby, and Baby

I remember when kelly stole the idea from Harrod's in England LOL!!!

[Chit Chat]

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Someone upthread mentioned that Carole should discipline her kittens by hitting them so that they wouldn't destroy the furniture which worked in the past for this person, but the thought makes me ill. Different strokes for different folks. 

I don't know if this was in my response to me saying a little hand-to-hiney discipline and a little spritz of water on their face is how I trained my cats not to claw the furniture.  A SWAT!!  Not a beating!  I'm sorry if my post was misunderstood.  Maybe someone else said something about "hitting" their animal and that's what is being referenced, but that was not what I meant in my post.  I'm a cat person through and through.   A non-hurtful swat on the cat's hind part is not a beating!!  For the love of all that's holy,  can we please not make the leap from a swat to a beat down?  Sheesh!

[Trooper York]

I think it is.

She was also involved in the design of Carole's new face.

[bagger]

6 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I have always liked Bethenny, but absolutely loved her this episode. From her cracks about needing a passport to get to the restaurant for lunch with Sonja because she had traveled so far yet Sonja didn't have to travel at all and was late, to the blank menu, to how she handled delusional Ramona, I loved every minute she was on my screen. 

Ramona? Yikes. First she tells Lu that people are making bets on whether the wedding will happen, then says she is kidding. Then she moves on to people apparently calling her to ask if they should buy their tickets to Florida? The woman is a pathological liar. She seriously thinks anyone would believe that people who are close enough to Lu and Tom to be invited to the wedding would call her, someone not invited,  to ask her opinion on the state of their relationship and whether they should purchase their plane tickets? OMG! Yet she wants to be invited so she can not go. Ramona really needs to hang on to her apple because with the way she is acting, I can't believe she has any social life outside of filming this show. 

I didn't mind Hannah this episode, but I do think she is young for her age. I don't think losing Richard as a step father has anything to do with that though. She was 11/12  when her mother married and they were only married for 6 years when Richard died so Hannah would have been 17/18. (Not sure of Hannah's birthdate and date of wedding but she was 22 in 2016). It isn't like Richard as step father was the only father she has. Her bio father has always been in her life as far as we know.  In fact he was the one paying for the apartment she was moving in to and the furniture from what I remember. I think she is just immature as she has likely been coddled her whole life. 

I don't think Dorinda being a bridesmaid at 50ish is all that odd at all. As others have said, many women have two or three marriages by that age. What is odd is having a flower girl who is in her 20's. Lol. It was nice though to see some of Luann's family - I don't think I ever have before. She and her sister look quite a bit alike. I was also surprised at how good looking the count was in his younger years - he definitely did not age well. I also enjoyed seeing Dorinda's parents and sister. I was surprised as well that Richard did not have a large headstone. Is it normal to have two different markers? (Assuming there is another one?). 

It's not odd to have foot markers. Some cemeteries have a minimum required number of spaces for monuments and if just Richard and dorinda will be buried there they may not have the required number of spaces.

[KungFuBunny]

5 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

I don't know if this was in my response to me saying a little hand-to-hiney discipline and a little spritz of water on their face is how I trained my cats not to claw the furniture.  A SWAT!!  Not a beating!  I'm sorry if my post was misunderstood.  Maybe someone else said something about "hitting" their animal and that's what is being referenced, but that was not what I meant in my post.  I'm a cat person through and through.   A non-hurtful swat on the cat's hind part is not a beating!!  For the love of all that's holy,  can we please not make the leap from a swat to a beat down?  Sheesh!

I laughed at this thinking of one of my cats. He absolutely loved water. I tried the water in the face, I swear he moved forward like I was spritzing him with cologne. He'd break out into Gene Kelly " Singing In The Rain"

What ended up working for me was getting the short Pringles can and filling it up with about 10 dried beans. Every time he went near any furniture legs - I shook the can and the noise would startle him.

[UsernameFatigue]

1 minute ago, bagger said:

It's not odd to have foot markers. Some cemeteries have a minimum required number of spaces for monuments and if just Richard and dorinda will be buried there they may not have the required number of spaces.

Sorry, I wasn't clear with my comment about two markers. Someone thought this was Richard's service marker, implying (from at least how I was reading it) that he likely had a headstone as well. That is what I meant about two markers - a headstone and a foot marker. Where I am from foot markers are much more common than headstones, so not odd at all. 

[Lemons]

13 hours ago, snarts said:

Loved Luann's wedding dress.  Dorinda's looked nice too, but I agree that the coloring washed her out a bit.

I'm surprised Luann is wearing a white bridal dress with veil. After all, one doesn't do that in a second wedding, especially if one is over 50. Luann was, after all, the grand dame of tradition and manners, especially the upper crust of which she is such a part of. 

[ryebread]

3 hours ago, sasha206 said:

I did love Carole's "Me and cemeteries? It's like the mothership calling me home."  She was very likeable this episode.  

I agreed until she fiddled with and gazed innocently at her ring while asking Bethenny about "the ex" problem.  Was there "more of a barrage of emails and nasty texts"? And how she knows that Beth is having a hard time and how she, herself, has witnessed behavior that was beyond bizarre.

Whether Carole's thoughtful comments were made at Beth's behest or not, think of the kid, Auntie Carole and shut up. 

But she did look pretty in the talking heads while she was raking poor lil Byrn's daddy over the coals.

[SCS]

4 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

I think she just stuffs it in her bag when the waiter/waitress is otherwise occupied. I also see her dumpster diving. She's got a lot of room in that creepy basement.

 

You may have solved a mystery. In an episode featuring deadly dull Cindy Barshop, Sonja was royally pissed that she "traveled all the way downtown" (her words)  because Cindy had allegedly offered to take her to lunch and cancelled after Sonja arrived. I figured Sonja was annoyed because she didn't have enough cash for a high-end resaurant and was looking forward to some free eats. But now, in addition to a meal on someone else's dime, Sonja may have been planning to snick a salad fork or 3 and finish out that service for 24. Wire bread baskets, silver salt and pepper shakers, finger bowls -- those designer handbags of Sonja's aren't just colored with Sharpies, they're probably lined with foil to prevent stains from used utensils.

[ladle]

• Ramona is an ass for bringing up the soft-core porn (and it sure as shit wasn't out of "concern") but Bethenny kind of doesn't have a leg to stand on (TM Aviva) when it comes to bringing things up "in the group" (i.e. on TV) when she was the one who confronted Luann with Tom's infidelity on camera.
• Dorinda's mom named her kids "Dorinda" and "Melinda"?
• I now know who Hannah reminds me of.  I teach college, and Hannah is the epitome of "that student": the over-privileged white girl who perpetually seeks extensions on assignments for reasons of 100%-avoidable self-created drama.
• "Carole, you bring up my ex on camera so the world can know what a dick he is, but I can look like I'm nobly suffering in silence!"
• Richard, even dead, is a more "fascinating character" than Tinsley (though I did giggle at the "90210" story).
• Bethenny looked like a Batman villain at cocktails. 

[bagger]

2 hours ago, Atlanta said:

The bride usually has final say on shower invites. It's very poor taste to invite one to the shower and not wedding. When I was engaged eons ago, I gave the host the list of people I wanted to invite.

Didn't Lu say her friend asked her for the list of the wedding party for the bridal shower? Sonja was invited up until that point then?

[Martinigirl]

39 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

I laughed at this thinking of one of my cats. He absolutely loved water. I tried the water in the face, I swear he moved forward like I was spritzing him with cologne. He'd break out into Gene Kelly " Singing In The Rain"

What ended up working for me was getting the short Pringles can and filling it up with about 10 dried beans. Every time he went near any furniture legs - I shook the can and the noise would startle him.

hahahahahahhaah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[motorcitymom65]

15 minutes ago, ladle said:

• Ramona is an ass for bringing up the soft-core porn (and it sure as shit wasn't out of "concern") but Bethenny kind of doesn't have a leg to stand on (TM Aviva) when it comes to bringing things up "in the group" (i.e. on TV) when she was the one who confronted Luann with Tom's infidelity on camera

Completely agree about Ramona.

But the deal with Beth bringing up Tom's deal was very different, don't you think? The issue of his fidelity, or lack of, was a central part of the story last season. Lu talked herself about the fact that he was on a date with someone else and went home with her. There was talk of him giving his ex an expensive gift, and what if he wasn't done with her? Then all the stuff with Ramona and Sonja. Really, his fidelity was at the heart of the storyline last season way before Beth ever pulled out her cell phone with the evidence. 

[bagger]

46 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Sorry, I wasn't clear with my comment about two markers. Someone thought this was Richard's service marker, implying (from at least how I was reading it) that he likely had a headstone as well. That is what I meant about two markers - a headstone and a foot marker. Where I am from foot markers are much more common than headstones, so not odd at all. 

Oh sorry that was me too (work in a funeral home cemetery combo) you can have a foot marker and a monument for sure in any park that allows monuments but no, usually not a head stone (at the top of the grave) and a foot marker.

[Maharincess]

6 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Totally get that. Everyone has their own style. What works for one won't work for another. Simply a different style of parenting. I would never in a million years lay a hand on my children, while others do and tout the benefits. I will, however,  throw their shit in the trash and not think twice about it. Someone upthread mentioned that Carole should discipline her kittens by hitting them so that they wouldn't destroy the furniture which worked in the past for this person, but the thought makes me ill. Different strokes for different folks. 

Completely agree. Especially about being Ill at the thought of smacking a kitten, I've had many cats in my life and would never ever "swat" a kitten, I'm glad you said that.  I don't understand the comment about Bryn going through a bad divorce, does that mean she keeps clothes she no longer fits into or toys she no longer plays with?  Every parent I know purges their kids rooms, if we didn't the rooms would be over run with crap. 

 

4 hours ago, Mojoker said:

You should try involving your son in the purge decisions sometime. Takes more time and effort for you, but teaches him to prioritize and organize. Children may technically have no possessions, and few decision-making rights, but they're still human beings entitled to an opinion. The few possessions I still have from my early childhood would have definitely seemed like garbage to my  mother at the time, but each small thing has, for me, a very important memory and meaning attached to it.

Is this really the place to try to tell somebody how they should raise their kids?  You have your way other people have theirs, period.  I don't know about anybody else but this is bordering on offensive for me.  You think your way is best, that's great but its not the only way or the right way.  Its your way. 

[ladle]

2 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

But the deal with Beth bringing up Tom's deal was very different, don't you think? The issue of his fidelity, or lack of, was a central part of the story last season. Lu talked herself about the fact that he was on a date with someone else and went home with her. There was talk of him giving his ex an expensive gift, and what if he wasn't done with her? Then all the stuff with Ramona and Sonja. Really, his fidelity was at the heart of the storyline last season way before Beth ever pulled out her cell phone with the evidence. 

I agree that the two situations are different in this respect.  However, I still think the example from last season is pertinent.  Bethenny's whole beef with Ramona bringing up the softcore porn is that she clearly didn't do it "out of concern" -- because, if Ramona had been concerned, she would have brought it up privately, away from "the group" (i.e. cameras).  While I agree with Bethenny on that point, she herself did the same thing by showing Luann evidence of Tom's infidelity on camera, with seemingly no warning.  If she had truly been concerned for Luann, she would have brought up the situation privately.  And, yes, the infidelity was already part of the storyline, but only hints of it; B. took it to a whole different level.  And I think she did that, at least in part (and maybe even subconsciously?) to humiliate Luann: a person she has not liked for quite some time.  For instance, I don't think she would have brought up the situation on camera if it had involved Carole, even if that were the season's plotline.  Just my two cents!    (tl;dr Bethenny and Ramona are both shitty people. :))

[Martinigirl]

Can we talk about how bad of a driver that dog was?

Edited May 12, 2017 by Martinigirl

[Trooper York]

Wait a minute. All of this discussion about spraying the kitty with water?

I we still talking about Sonja's bidet?

[KungFuBunny]

The place the ladies went for cocktails (Jue Lan) used to be The Limelight.

It's a lot larger than it appeared on the show. They only showed the bar area.

[mbaywife123]

10 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Can we talk about how bad of a driver that dog was?

Must have gotten its license out of a bag of snausages!