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4 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

Wasn't it Eden who said Kyle is an enabler?  Not Rinna . I'm no Rinna fan, but Eden is full of shit and Doritos is a bigly shit stirrer. 

Rinna not only said it she read off the definition of enabler just like she did with the munchyhousies last year.

 

4 hours ago, LizDC said:

Lisa Rinna's blog...

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-7/blogs/lisa-rinna/lisa-rinna-i-take-responsibility-for

So, pretty much everyone is responsible for what's happened. 

It's like she thinks people just read her blog and don't watch the show.  I mean I guess they could have edited the conversation to paint her as the villain, but I don't think that's what happened.  Although I laughed so hard at the shitty dubbing on the previouslies where they changed what Eden said at the Gatsby party to specifically blame Rinna instead of the everyone she really said.  

3 hours ago, WireWrap said:

This is what she did to Lisa last season, no doubt about it. She says things then blames others for it. Last season, Lisa manipulated Rinna into talking about Munchausen and this season, Kim attacked her for no reason and that forced her into talking about Kim's sobriety/Kyle being an enabler and Eden took things way too seriously (even though she only repeated what Rinna told her) on her own! LOL Rinna needs to have her mouth super glued shut!  

Or like that time she talked about using a strap on with Harry and then was like "oops, my mouth, what are you going to do," when he got mad.

 

So everyone is off having fun and Eileen is at home going to therapy.  Zzzzzzzzzz.  Why bother even having her in the episode?

I feel sorry for poor Jagger.  If he really has what the speech therapist thinks he has and his brain isn't firing signals to his tongue quickly enough, that must be so frustrating.  He seems like a smart happy kid.  I hope they get it figured out.  Say what you will about Dorit and her parenting, but she does seem to be very proactive about getting her kids the care/treatments that they need.

I can't believe Camille's daughter is so old.  For some reason I though her kids were still little.

I really hope that Rinna doesn't wriggle out of this and that talking out of both sides of her big mouth bites her in the ass.  I can't stand her and am gleeful over the prospect of her getting a comeuppance and the possibility of a reunion pile up.

The outfits that Kyle and LVP were wearing on their walk were not the best.

 

I'm really coming around to liking Erika the last couple of episodes.  I think maybe it's because she's just being chill and having fun and not trying so hard to show everyone how fabulous she is.

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2 minutes ago, swankie said:

I'd like to see how Rinna is going to spin this one.

Check her blog.  It's everyone else's fault.  Kim for baiting her, Kyle for not telling Kim to not talk to Rinna rudely as a guest in her home, and Eden for telling everyone what she said (because it isn't like she said it on camera while filming a national TV show).  This is possibly my favorite part:

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Kyle told us last year in the Hamptons that what keeps her up at night is the thought of getting the dreaded phone call about her sister. I did not say “Kim was on the path to destruction” or “near death” the way Eden relayed it to her eager listener. What I said was, “They’re this close to Kim dying.” And again, the reason I even mentioned that to Eden in the first place is because I felt Eden could empathize with Kyle’s fear of receiving that phone call letting her know that something has happened to her sister. Those six words, “They’re this close to Kim dying,” have now been twisted into a dirty piece of gossip that implies that I think Kim is on the brink of death when what I was talking about was what Kyle shared with us all in the Hamptons last year.

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I have watched since season 1.  LVP and Kyle were my favorites and still are.  I was a bit disappointed with Kyle in season 2 but she seems to have seen herself and self corrected.  I think they are great together and I love how down to earth Kyle is.  LVP is beautiful but it wouldn't hurt for her to consult a fashion consultant.  I agree with several other posters that she looks her best in minimal make up and relaxed clothing.  Then again I think most women benefit from a less is more sense of make up and fashion.  I loved Rinna before RHoBH now I can't stand her.  I liked Eileen her first season not at all now.  Could take or leave EG.  Not fond of either of the new ladies.  Of course we need some drama to keep our interest but I could sure go for more house porn and life styles of the rich and famous of each of the cast.  JMO

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46 minutes ago, yourmomiseasy said:

Those six words, “They’re this close to Kim dying,” have now been twisted into a dirty piece of gossip that implies that I think Kim is on the brink of death when what I was talking about was what Kyle shared with us all in the Hamptons last year.

I'll be friggin damned if this bitch didn't go and pin it all on Kyle just like she tried to do last year with the Munchausen!  I can't wait to see how she's going to work Lisa Vanderpump into this tall tale.  If I was Kyle, I would form an alliance with all of the other housewives and vote Rinna off the island.  I would just totally refuse to film with her.  She's just gone waaaaay too far this time.  >8-(

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I still believe Rinna about the m word last year. I also think....this is a woman who advertised Depends and shills HSN or whatever for money, so I don't take her as anything more than someone whose life goal is to make money. Which I guess means I don't fault her too much for being the one who makes the story happen. 

She's basically Brandi at this point, only we see her kids telling us that this nonsense affects them. 

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Rinna's blog: "Those six words, “They’re this close to Kim dying,” have now been twisted into a dirty piece of gossip that implies that I think Kim is on the brink of death when what I was talking about was what Kyle shared with us all in the Hamptons last year."

Well, they're = they are, NOT they were. It's a completely different context from 'in the past Kim was close to dying' to what she said which conveyed she is currently close to death.

I haven't loved nor hated Rinna but I'm now sick to death of her saying whatever the person she is with wants to hear. Anything to fit in and be liked never mind about being truthful. Or.... theory two is her brain is too drug addled to remember things clearly. Maybe it's theory two? I mean, she spoke with Kyle in her store and said, straight faced, she had no idea what Eden knew about Kim. 

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2 hours ago, swankie said:

Bwaaahhhh!!!  I love it!  Lisa is starting to look like an old dowager.  It's unfortunate too because she's only in her 50's.  Maybe it's because she's married to Ken.  She seems to be picking up his mannerisms.

 

I don't think this is true for the simple fact that they didn't even know Rinna said those things until Eden told LisaV that she did.  I don't think Kyle and LisaV reacting to that information translates into them looking for an excuse to pile onto Rinna.  Rinna shouldn't have been shooting off at the mouth to someone who was all but a stranger at the time.  Had she gotten to know Eden better she might have been able to read her better and known not to trash Kim and Kyle to her.  What gets my dander up is the fact that Rinna doesn't have a problem with outright lying about the crap she spews.  I'm loving how the editors are quick with the replays this season.  Pretty hard for people to lie their way out of things when the camera shows the words coming right out of their mouths.  I'd like to see how Rinna is going to spin this one.

I don't disagree that Rinna was wrong in shooting her mouth off to Eden.  And she irritates the heck out of me for all the reasons you lay out.

But LvP in particular holds a grudge like nobody's business and Kyle wasn't exactly chummy with Rinna by the end of last year either.  LvP is absolutely delighting in Rinna creating an opportunity for them to justifiably be outraged and there will be a pile on during  this trip.  No doubt.  If it wasn't this then it would have been something else.  That is what Dorit and PK are there for.

Its the fact that they are attributing Eden's tendency to attack a topic like a rabid squirrel entirely to Rinna that makes me think they were looking for an excuse to pile on Rinna.  I'm not saying that they didn't happen to find a legitimate excuse. 

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In a shorter blog this week, Eden has used 10 hashtags, 6 exclamation points and weirdly, she has decided that using multiple quotation marks will better relay her hashtagTruth. She used 5 of those and 1 of those irritating 'notes to self' at the end. Eden Sassoon: Sober Woman!! Currently being outed on one of the reality blogs for being the head of a lesbian cult amongst her Twitter followers. I've seen the tweets, they are definitely strange. 

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Just in case any Bravo  minions are reading this:  First and foremost,  please stop trying to make the Rinna girls happen.   At the very least eliminate their duller-than-Eileen talking heads.

"Hostile Hacienda" is right!  I hope Rinna loaded up on Xanax, she's going to need  them. Kyle is out for bear (and I don't blame her). And Dorit can stop trying to get in with the "cool" girls.

Having said that, it is nice to see a season where for the most part, people are getting along.  I enjoyed Lisa bantering with Maurico about the office; enjoyed Kyle and Erika sitting and talking.  If I liked Eden, I would have probably liked the convo between her and LVP, but at least we got to see LVP's closet again. 

And a Bambi sighting!  Yes, Kyle, I would feel guilty about leaving that precious puppy too!

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I guess there is something wrong with my thought process because I like Rinna and Eileen. It could just be old age. Who knows?

Well, I guess there is something wrong with me as well. Granted, it is a small club we belong to (though I do like Eileen much more than I do Rinna)...

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Every time PU opens his mouth I am reminded of Simon van Kempen.

I found Simon's social-climbing ways to be rather amusing, and hey, his sense of fashion was interesting to see. PK is just gross all over.

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3 hours ago, yourmomiseasy said:

I'm really coming around to liking Erika the last couple of episodes.  I think maybe it's because she's just being chill and having fun and not trying so hard to show everyone how fabulous she is.

I am too.  Last night she seemed almost bored in her talking heads - like "I can't believe I have to comment on this.... (ie the color pink)."  She does seem very comfortable with herself.  Curious to see what gets her so upset further in the season, because that seems so unlike her.

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9 hours ago, chick binewski said:

It is part of my journey to think Rinna is completely off her rocker.

YES.  Apparently mine too.  Get the hook.  She needs to exit stage left.

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This preview is priceless. A distillation of everything we value in a Housewives franchise! I could lose Lisar in the blue dress on the boat, however. I don't need to see this freakish ghoul feel herself up. 

and here we have Dorit ingratiating herself (?) with the OC ladies. She managed to pick the one ho on this franchise that will see everyone come after her though: 

 

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7 hours ago, mbaywife123 said:

Rinna herself said that she will do anything for a buck. 

Dance you greedy idiot, here's some more Bravo peanuts!

It  is  getting more and more obvious that were it not for her marriage to Harry--- still -something of a Hollywood power player  Bravo doesn't want to P.O, -- Rinna  would occupy the nowheres-ville she so richly deserves.  Looks like RHBH is the easiest path  to the NY Fashion week runway.  Whatever works? Can't help but wonder how much longer this is going to go on before Harry Hamlin starts to  seem pretty weird for indulging the weirdo wife.  

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Tommy Hilfiger is not part of NY Fashion Week he and Gigi have their show tomorrow in Venice Beach.  Don't know if C lister Hamlin has any other gigs in NY Fashion Week. 

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here we have Dorit ingratiating herself (?) with the OC ladies. She managed to pick the one ho on this franchise that will see everyone come after her though: 

Why is Sour Cream and Onion trying to get involved in that mess? Then again, it might be fun to see Tamra rip her to shreds.

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31 minutes ago, queenjen said:

This preview is priceless. A distillation of everything we value in a Housewives franchise! I could lose Lisar in the blue dress on the boat, however. I don't need to see this freakish ghoul feel herself up. 

and here we have Dorit ingratiating herself (?) with the OC ladies. She managed to pick the one ho on this franchise that will see everyone come after her though: 

 

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This is not Dorit's twitter account-the name says Dorito.

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34 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Tommy Hilfiger is not part of NY Fashion Week he and Gigi have their show tomorrow in Venice Beach.  Don't know if C lister Hamlin has any other gigs in NY Fashion Week. 

I think the last one, the one they're talking about on the show, was in New York. 

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Mauricio's rental property struck me as what Shannon Beador wanted when she went to Mexico with Vicki, not that cramped back room she got.  The house was gorgeous and I don't even care that most house porn on this show is free advertising for The Agency.  At least it's a visual treat, unlike the constant shilling of Skinny Girl in NY.

PK's thirst for camera time is very reminiscent of Simon VK's thirst; I just hope PK never graces the screen in tight leather pants, as I often eat my dinner watching this show.  

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10 minutes ago, Kokapetl said:

I think the last one, the one they're talking about on the show, was in New York. 

I was inarticulate, I should have been more clear about the Hamlin girl's participation for the February 2017 NYFW. 

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These women need to lay off the botox, lip plumpers and other procedures.  Camille barely looked human when she met with Rinna in NY.  Her face looked plastic and she could only move her lower lip, the rest of her face was completely immobile.  She's a very pretty woman, I don't understand why women do that to themselves. imo, it doesn't make them look younger or prettier, it just makes them look like they've had procedures done. Does anyone know people in real life that do this? Is the frozen face as distracting in person as it is on tv?

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1 minute ago, SweetieDarling said:

These women need to lay off the botox, lip plumpers and other procedures.  Camille barely looked human when she met with Rinna in NY.  Her face looked plastic and she could only move her lower lip, the rest of her face was completely immobile.  She's a very pretty woman, I don't understand why women do that to themselves. imo, it doesn't make them look younger or prettier, it just makes them look like they've had procedures done. Does anyone know people in real life that do this? Is the frozen face as distracting in person as it is on tv?

It makes them look totally plastic! Kyle, I think, has the best work out of all of them. She looks fantastic. Rinna just becomes more of a caricature of herself.

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4 minutes ago, SFoster21 said:

PK went to lunch in his undershirt!

According to Brian Moylan the shirt PK wore to the airport was the color of balls.  http://www.vulture.com/2017/02/real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-recap-season-7-episode-10.html  The undershirt may be an improvement.  Never knew balls came in just one color, I thought they color coordinated with one's skin tone.  I need to get out more.

There is also some pretty funny stuff about Rinna and her daughter learning to walk.

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Erika: I want a Burritoooo....I want a Margaritaaaa..... She has wads of money, all the best things in life, and has traveled the world. Please stop with the stupid ugly American routine.

The Hiltons must be fuming that Mauricio is having so much success and able to advertise it all on this show.  Wasn't there a lot of bad blood when Mo left Hilton to start his own "Agency"?  Good for Mo, but seriously, enough already. 

I guess "Kyle is an enabler", "Kim is mostly sober" and "Kim is on the verge of death" are the three sentences that will keep on giving all season long. 

I think Camille was trying to tell Rinna in a very nice way to STFU about Kim and move on. I don't think Rinna got the message. 

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38 minutes ago, Kokapetl said:

The "The Agency" hat that Mauricio is always wearing makes me laugh. I don't think it swayed Yolanda or anyone else into choosing to list with The Agency. 

Actually Yolanda did list with them:

"Yolanda listed her condo with The Agency, Mauricio Umansky’s real estate company, and it includes 3 bedrooms and 3.5 bathrooms. Even more, there’s a suite on a lower floor that can be used as an office or, “staff quarters.”

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6 hours ago, phoenix780 said:

Here's the real lesson: NEVER come late.  

Oh wait, maybe it's not to give it up without a contract (shout-out to Eden & Camille).

I'm loving this season, even if it's about someone who's not a cast member. Maybe that's what makes it fun- I don't have to worry about dealing with Kim and her reactions to it all.  They're all really great with talking heads, it's nice to see Vanderpump get in there and stir shit up directly. Puppet master no more!

One thing that was disturbing...did Kyle say this is the "real Mexico?" Because...no.  No it's not.

I almost threw my shoe thru the TV set when I heard her say that "it authentic Mexican living!"

Yes, ALL my relatives live in huge houses next to the ocean, in multi roomed mansions - bought and paid for via the 'mordida' that runs the country..

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The story goes that Albert Einstein didn't speak until he was four and he was a certified genius and he came up with the theory of relativity. So here's hoping Jagger turns out to be a genius.

Speaking of math equations. Hamlin girls nepotistic 'modeling' career + Eileen therapy session equals FAST FORWARD! 

Once again Bravo, the Hamlin girls are a whole big pile of Newp for me. 

WoW! Still can't believe Eileen is older than LVP. Let that sink in. 

Lisa looks so good in colors. I don't know why she chose to wear a black lingerie type gown (which wasn't very pretty) on a tropical vacay. 

Get money Mauricio!

Erica? I can't help but love a HW who dresses sensibly to travel. Seeing these women show up to the airport in stiletto heels and camel toe inducing pants makes my eye twitch. I think having to walk miles in an airport hauling bags wearing any kind of heels, especially stilettoes is a form of torture because no matter what airport I am at, where I am traveling to I always wind up at the gate furthest away from where I entered. Always! You can seriously walk a mile or more in some airports to get to your gate.

Did Erica not bring any member of her glam team to Mexico. You mean she has to ... gasp .. do her own hair and makeup?

All I have to say about this Rinna mess is

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Lordt that preview! I can't wait. 

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2 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Tommy Hilfiger is not part of NY Fashion Week he and Gigi have their show tomorrow in Venice Beach.  Don't know if C lister Hamlin has any other gigs in NY Fashion Week. 

Hilfiger did show in NY during Fashion Week (though I'm not sure his location is an official Fashion Week venue)

http://www.vogue.com/fashion-shows/fall-2016-ready-to-wear/tommy-hilfiger

edit: sorry, @zoeysmom, posted before I saw your clarification.

Don't  know when this season of RHOBH was filmed, but I don't see Rinna's kid in the slideshow from Hilfiger's September show.

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10 hours ago, mbaywife123 said:

LVP is really starting to look an aging drag queen or Nora Desmond.

 

That's NORMA Desmond!  And hey, what's wrong with Norma?  She's always ready for her close up, but she's still BIG, it's the reality tv shows that got small!

Okay, I'll stop. :)

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I can't wait for next week when Rinna starts to spin this whole thing into Eden breaking her confidence by telling LVP about their conversation.  I can't blame Eden for doing that at all, I mean everyone thinks she's nuts for getting so involved in Kim's recovery and having terrible boundaries (which she does) for no reason. Well, there's a big reason and the minute Kyle knew, she understood WHY Eden was so up in their business. Nowhere in that shopping scene did Rinna make it seem like anything she said was a big secret, in fact, she made it seem like it was fairly well known to be fact. She also blatantly lied to Kyle about Eden. On camera. What did she think was going to happen? Eden's just a plot device this season and if it means people finally see what a hag Rinna is, I'm totally OK with it. She's got some balls going to Erica and crying about how she thought she could trust Eden. Who is the manipulator now? I was going to make a reference to playing chess with Bobby Fisher but i'm pretty sure anyone could beat Rinna at chess except maybe these two: 

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1 hour ago, SweetieDarling said:

These women need to lay off the botox, lip plumpers and other procedures.  Camille barely looked human when she met with Rinna in NY.  Her face looked plastic and she could only move her lower lip, the rest of her face was completely immobile.  She's a very pretty woman, I don't understand why women do that to themselves. imo, it doesn't make them look younger or prettier, it just makes them look like they've had procedures done. Does anyone know people in real life that do this? Is the frozen face as distracting in person as it is on tv?

I couldn't figure out what was going on with Camille's face during that lunch with Rinna.  I was wondering if she had a nose job, if it was a case of too much botox, or what.  Her face looks fine during her talking heads - aren't they filmed after the actual filming of the scenes?  

I always thought Camille was very pretty - in those scenes at PJ Clarke's - not so much.  :-(

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5 minutes ago, Michichick said:

Hilfiger did show in NY during Fashion Week (though I'm not sure his location is an official Fashion Week venue)

He usually does a show during NY Fashion Week but does it at alternative venues. He hasn't done a show at "the tents" in years. The one in particular they are discussing was in September down at South Street Seaport and it was a million degrees and humid AF that night.  He's doing the show in LA just to do something out of the box this year. Rinna put a video on Instagram of her walking in the show since I'm guessing a lot of people are questioning if it actually happened since she's not in the pictures. 
 

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When someone tells me something about someone else I do not take it upon myself to go the person and start counseling them.  It matters not to me what Lips told Eden; it does not justify her low rent version of Iyanla Fix My Life. 

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I said this in last week's thread.  LR was wrong to bring up Kim's 'situation' with Eden.  Eden's excuse is no excuse.  Eden has her own set of problems.  The hugs...the bottle of 'Love'....  'Her' relationship with 'her' sister.... This isn't all on LR.  LR lit the match, wrongly, but Eden went with it....because...I think this is what she does.   And enough with the hashtags in her blogs.  Intervention please.

Yeah, regardless of Lisa saying moronic things about stuff of which she has no real knowledge, the fact remains that Eden is pushing her big old earnest and overly concerned face into the business of people (we're supposed to believe) she barely knows. Even if it were about less serious matters, the forced familiarity would be a little weird.

 

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Erika: I want a Burritoooo....I want a Margaritaaaa..... She has wads of money, all the best things in life, and has traveled the world. Please stop with the stupid ugly American routine.

Wanting a burrito and a margarita is an "ugly American routine"? Why?

Also, Eden was walking so weirdly when going into Lisa V's house. 

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A beautiful sunset in the background and I have to listen to LVP stick a paddle into the cesspool and stir shit up?

Nope, this is vacation and I ain't gonna entertain any horseshit that has the potential to ruin the trip?

Can't anyone put their foot down and TRY to enjoy a vacation/trip without starting a fight?

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I wanna burrito/margarita????

Why the fuck MUST you whine and carry on about it? Get one and stuff it in your pie hole and leave us alone.

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LOVED the scene where the two 'model moms' were trying to one up each other on their spawn's modeling 'career'...

"well, MY daughter is 14 THE YOUNGEST ever to walk the crapwalk..."

"MY daughter did the walk for Oshkosh by Gosh Outlet fashion show!"

"My daughter learned to model walk before she could CRAWL........"

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32 minutes ago, Normades said:

That's NORMA Desmond!  And hey, what's wrong with Norma?  She's always ready for her close up, but she's still BIG, it's the reality tv shows that got small!

Okay, I'll stop. :)

The actual quote is: I AM big!  She doesn't say "still."

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37 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

I couldn't figure out what was going on with Camille's face during that lunch with Rinna.  I was wondering if she had a nose job, if it was a case of too much botox, or what.  Her face looks fine during her talking heads - aren't they filmed after the actual filming of the scenes?  

I always thought Camille was very pretty - in those scenes at PJ Clarke's - not so much.  :-(

I know!  It took me a while to even recognize her because she looked so different.   I kept comparing her face when the talking heads cut in. In PJ Clarke's her face was much tighter and had that shiny plastic look, and didn't budge an inch.  Her lips looked fuller too, I thought.  Maybe it had time to wear off by the time the talking heads were filmed.

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43 minutes ago, TattleTeeny said:

Yeah, regardless of Lisa saying moronic things about stuff of which has no real knowledge, the fact remains that Eden is pushing her big earnest and old overly concerned face into the business of people (we're supposed to believe) she barely knows. Even if it were about less serious matters, the forced familiarity would be a little weird.

Yes, exactly. If that was the standard Brandi would have been fine concerning herself with Adrienne's surrogacy just because someone told her about it. The thing is, it cannot be forgotten that Eden is just a strange bird who seems to feel a sense of entitlement as to how others are supposed to perceive her intentions. Before Lisar said boo about Kim or Kyle to her after the party, she was going on and on about how rude Kyle was to her at her home.  She wasn't gracious or welcoming enough. WTF? Lisar defended Kyle when she said that. Then the thing about Kim not being thankful enough when she helped her down the stairs. She is just a strange bird, and Lisar was wrong to tell her anything. 

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And who was it that asked Kyle whether she believed Eden was "coming from a good place" (or whatever) or being annoying? If I were Kyle, I'd say both. I think one's intentions can be good, but that doesn't mean they're not also inappropriately expressed, haha! I just keep picturing Eden's intent stare when she's observing/waiting to talk. It's so funny!

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5 hours ago, ParadoxLost said:

Its the fact that they are attributing Eden's tendency to attack a topic like a rabid squirrel entirely to Rinna that makes me think they were looking for an excuse to pile on Rinna.  I'm not saying that they didn't happen to find a legitimate excuse. 

I tend to agree with this, more on the part of LVP than Kyle, who I think tends to let shit go more quickly. I don't really care, because I feel Rinna is way out of line with how she's been talking about Kim, and trying to spin it in different ways to different people. But the way they're so quick to let Eden slide bugs me. Yes, Rinna, as the "insider", told her this stuff and may have propelled some of her weird behavior with the Richards sisters. But Eden gobbled that shit right up. Just because someone told her something, that doesn't excuse how intrusive she became with people she barely knew. And it's not like any Joe Blow off the street can't find out most of the details about Kim's struggles over the years. Eden is still a nutcase with no boundaries, and Rinna is loud mouth shit stirrer. Take them BOTH to ask, IMO. 

 

2 hours ago, Sapphire said:

It makes them look totally plastic! Kyle, I think, has the best work out of all of them. She looks fantastic. Rinna just becomes more of a caricature of herself.

Kyle does look amazing. There was a moment when she and LVP were walking in the gardens, and the shot was far away, and I actually thought it was one of her daughters!

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