S07.E13: Breaking The Wall / S07.E14: Deja Vu

[GreatKazu]

One thing I forgot to mention about this episode, was the ridiculous conversation Jenelle was having with Dave about the child custody hearing.  Jenelle mentioned it wasn't fair for Nathan to have all weekends because it would mean Jace wouldn't get to spend time with Kaiser. I wanted to throw something at my television. Jace wouldn't have to miss out seeing Kaiser if you had Jace in your care instead of bringing more babies into your world. Having Jace on the weekends only is due to your desire to not wanting to be the mother to him that you should have been. You are bitching about Nathan seeking time with his son and all you do is bitch about how it interferes with Jace and his time with his brother. You should have thought about that before. You will have that same issue when Dave is no longer in the picture and you will be dealing with three separate visitations.

[shelley1234]

I also noticed that so many of the things Jenelle was complaining about Nathan doing....are things she does with Barb and Jace.  Goose.  Gander.  

[Christina87]

54 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

One thing I forgot to mention about this episode, was the ridiculous conversation Jenelle was having with Dave about the child custody hearing.  Jenelle mentioned it wasn't fair for Nathan to have all weekends because it would mean Jace wouldn't get to spend time with Kaiser. I wanted to throw something at my television. Jace wouldn't have to miss out seeing Kaiser if you had Jace in your care instead of bringing more babies into your world. Having Jace on the weekends only is due to your desire to not wanting to be the mother to him that you should have been. You are bitching about Nathan seeking time with his son and all you do is bitch about how it interferes with Jace and his time with his brother. You should have thought about that before. You will have that same issue when Dave is no longer in the picture and you will be dealing with three separate visitations.

Sooooo true, and you know what? Jenelle technically SHOULD have Jace in her care full time, since Andrew is an absent parent! She shouldn't even have to worry about visitation whatsoever! I know there are a ton of bad things about having a deadbeat for a co-parent, but it does eliminate a lot of the problems these girls have, and lets you spend more time with the child. Jenelle is literally squandering the ONE perk of being a completely single parent. 

[GreatKazu]

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I also noticed that so many of the things Jenelle was complaining about Nathan doing....are things she does with Barb and Jace.

Nathan is a fool if he thought Jenelle would never turn on him in that same fashion. He was part of that game where they would gang-up on Barb and tell her how they would get Jace from her.  Tables are turned on you now, Nathan. 

Nathan was griping to Jessica in the recent episode about Barb and how she would withhold Jace from Jenelle and how Jenelle was now doing the same thing to him. Two very different things asshole. Barb is Jace's legal guardian and has been his parent for seven years now. She had every right to call the shots as she saw fit. No comparison whatsoever. As if Nathan never told Jenelle he would take Kaiser away.

[ghoulina]

13 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

One thing I forgot to mention about this episode, was the ridiculous conversation Jenelle was having with Dave about the child custody hearing.  Jenelle mentioned it wasn't fair for Nathan to have all weekends because it would mean Jace wouldn't get to spend time with Kaiser. I wanted to throw something at my television. Jace wouldn't have to miss out seeing Kaiser if you had Jace in your care instead of bringing more babies into your world. Having Jace on the weekends only is due to your desire to not wanting to be the mother to him that you should have been. You are bitching about Nathan seeking time with his son and all you do is bitch about how it interferes with Jace and his time with his brother. You should have thought about that before. You will have that same issue when Dave is no longer in the picture and you will be dealing with three separate visitations.

It's a tricky situation. I feel for the kids and would like the siblings to be able to spend time together. But some of these moms really fucked up, with having kids by so many different men. Is one father supposed to acquiesce so that your kid by another father can be there at the same time??? It becomes super fucking complicated. And, sadly, for some of them - I'm sure it's only going to get more complicated. 

[GreatKazu]

14 hours ago, ghoulina said:

It's a tricky situation. I feel for the kids and would like the siblings to be able to spend time together. But some of these moms really fucked up, with having kids by so many different men. Is one father supposed to acquiesce so that your kid by another father can be there at the same time??? It becomes super fucking complicated. And, sadly, for some of them - I'm sure it's only going to get more complicated. 

Fucked up indeed.

There was another moment that just pissed me off. It was when Jenelle was telling Dave about the custody arrangement details. As she mentioned Nathan has to meet her halfway when picking up and dropping off Kaiser, Dave was quick to say Nathan should have to drive all the way, to which Jenelle said she was sorry. Dave said the same thing about Barb last season about how she should drive all the way to pick up Jace. I fucking cannot stand that bastard and how he tries to dictate how Kaiser's father should do this or do that.

Leah herself had made similar comments to Jeremy about Addie needing to spend time with her sisters. Well, you are shit outta luck, Leah. That is what happens when you go and cheat on your husband and he decides to leave your funky ass because he can't trust you.

Edited January 14, 2017 by GreatKazu

[MissMel]

Well, to be fair, there is always the option of 'I bring them to you, you bring them to me'.  But that involves a bit more trust and maturity.  And Dave can fuck all the way off with his half-way comment.  Like he could handle Nathan there with Janelle?  Ha, not hardly.  And she knows it. 

[Scarlett45]

On 1/13/2017 at 7:22 AM, ghoulina said:

It's a tricky situation. I feel for the kids and would like the siblings to be able to spend time together. But some of these moms really fucked up, with having kids by so many different men. Is one father supposed to acquiesce so that your kid by another father can be there at the same time??? It becomes super fucking complicated. And, sadly, for some of them - I'm sure it's only going to get more complicated. 

Yeah I understand what you're saying. I know a woman, when she divorced her husband (who had a child from a previous relationship- they had two kids together), he asked if his custody time could be the weekday night and weekends he had his older child. She agreed because she saw how much the older child loved her two children and wanted the kids to spend as much time together as possible. And he was happy cause his childcare was condensed to the same time. 

IMO its different in a Jo/Vee/Kail/Javi situation where they actually do care about the kids spending time together and people are willing to be flexible. Even a Corey/Miranda/Leah/Jeremy situation, I don't think Corey or Miranda would have a problem with Addy coming to Remi's bday parties etc. Chelsea and Paislee's mom (I cannot remember her name) recognize (finally) that Adam is a douche and couldn't care less but the girls didn't choose him, didn't ask to be here, and have a right to know and love each other. 

Jenelle doesn't give two shits about Kaiser and Jace. She doesn't care if Kaiser has a loving relationship with Nathan's other child (who Nathan doesn't even have contact with it looks like). Jenelle cares about Jenelle, and what's easiest for her period. Any lip about Jace and Kaiser is just an excuse. 

[jacksgirl]

Adderall won't know who skypes who at age 3, so Leah,  be the bigger person, do well by your daughter and you initiate the contact. That is unless you want to bitch about it to your social barnacles. 

[CofCinci]

Please stop posting Leah's scary witch pictures in here. It's like the movie The Ring!  Bad things are going to happen to PTV posters until Naomi Watts figures out how to save us. 

[ChristmasJones]

On 1/10/2017 at 5:03 AM, Uncle JUICE said:

First of all, if Chelsea's daughter gets any cuter, I might have to punch her face. It's insane how cute that kid is. I don't know how anyone says no to that kid when she has those glasses on. And then she's singing and she's got her raspy little voice, it's like she's a Pixar creation. Ridiculous. 

I am just finally watching this episode and I had to quote this...OMG soooo true!!!!!!

[FairyDusted]

18 hours ago, CofCinci said:

Please stop posting Leah's scary witch pictures in here. It's like the movie The Ring!  Bad things are going to happen to PTV posters until Naomi Watts figures out how to save us. 

LOL! FLOVE!@COFCINCI ! I feel ya! Buckeyes Rule

Aubree issssss so stinking cute and usually well behaved. Her little voice makes my dark heart smile.

[Mkay]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.mtv.com/news/2962042/teen-mom-2-producers/amp/?client=safari

 

Pretty interesting article from the producers of each girl.  

[FairyDusted]

Great read ! Thanks for the find @Mkay!    

[shelley1234]

It is interesting.  I might be jaded, but it did seem just a tad too nice.  I think the producers probably find something about each girl they like to keep working with them, but it seemed a wee bit sugar coated.  

[ChocolateAddict]

I love how Chelsea and Mandi are basically best friends by this point.  Like someone else said, they must be fighting to get Chelsea when she serves up dinner and dessert while filming, has a clean house, cute pets and a well-behaved child.  It would be more boring than the other girls but it is sweet how Chelsea goes out of her way to be friendly with her crew.  Comparatively, Leah and her shitstorm must be absolute hell.  They would be standing round in a biological hazard, watching a child that medically shouldn't be running go on slip'n'slides and listening to Leah moan for the 100th time this week that Corey and Jeremy are evil meanies.  Lets be honest, you wouldn't eat anything at Leah's even if she did serve something up.  Canned icing anyone?  Cheetos from the floor?  This is how I imagine the pre-recording meetings go. 

Mandi - yeah so Chelsea just sent me a cute picture of her sonagram and she said that she'll be making tacos for dinner.  Should be pretty good. 

Amy - Leah is supposed to be moving but she hasn't got her shit together so that might be a bit of a mess.  Also, Addie may or may not be there since we think she will be with Jeremy.  The crew is hoping that there won't be another screaming fit in the basement, that was a pain. 

JC - Javi is coming home so that should be dramatic but Kail is being a bit shifty about what is going on.  She keeps on eating all the food and talks about her ass a lot.  Most of our footage is of her taking Instagram shots. 

Jenelle - we are still waiting to hear about where Jenelle is going and where Jace and Kaiser are.  We don't think anyone will be in jail this week but hey, you never know. Also, it is getting hard to edit out the sounds of Kaiser crying in his room. 

[leighroda]

I found it funny that Leah specifies that she likes to know when/what is being filmed... I would be the same way... but let's be honest she just needs to know when to clean up kinda.

[GreatKazu]

I want the uncensored version of what the crew has to say. That one camera person who let it all hang out in that one posting somewhere years ago, is the kind of thing I want to read.

[FozzyBear]

On 1/2/2017 at 6:58 PM, CofCinci said:

Why is Janelle's attorney dressed like Freddie Krueger?  Halloween party that night?

Everyone was bringing their best sartorial idiocy to court. The weird porn convention couture that everyone in Janelle's life favors for important events is always a delight. All the best the Wet Seal has to offer I guess.

 

on another clothing note, I was happy to see Chelsea shut down her mom's wedding dress gender conditioning for Aubrey real fast. So refreshing that she doesn't think it's cute to talk about a 7 year old's wedding. Chelsea's ok.

Edited January 30, 2017 by FozzyBear

[FozzyBear]

On 1/3/2017 at 0:07 PM, DangerousMinds said:

I just don't think a father would receive the same scrutiny for doing something like this. JMO.

Yeah, I don't either. Also, I'm pretty sure if you want to look at things that put these idiots in danger you should look at how they all drive; cell phones, turning around to look in the back seat, crying. it's a mess.

[Christina87]

2 hours ago, FozzyBear said:

All the best the Wet Seal has to offer I guess!

Ohhhhhh my gosh, you just gave me the biggest laugh I've had in several days! Thanks for that! ???

[SPLAIN]

6 hours ago, FozzyBear said:

Yeah, I don't either. Also, I'm pretty sure if you want to look at things that put these idiots in danger you should look at how they all drive; cell phones, turning around to look in the back seat, crying. it's a mess.

All of that has been covered. In fact, I posted Kail's driving record that had some real gems. Yes, Kail is putting innocent drivers in danger by being on the road. As for the guys not getting scrutinized, they do. They haven't jumped out of planes, but at least one has been scrutinized for his weight and how that is cutting his life short. The smoking has been touched upon. What I find sad is, how the physical abuse by the females is somewhat downplayed or excuses are given on the internet, especially the minions of the girls on their social media pages.

[DNR]

This question may have been answered above or in Kails thread-  I don't know the laws in Delaware but both Kail and Javi own their home , not sure if his name is on the deed etc yes?  Why is Kail just allowed to throw Javi out ? Have they agreed on something off camera ?? Cuz i if I was Javi i would walked in sat down in the couch and put my feet up and said I ain't going anywhere it's my house too you cow!

[SPLAIN]

4 minutes ago, DNR said:

This question may have been answered above or in Kails thread-  I don't know the laws in Delaware but both Kail and Javi own their home , not sure if his name is on the deed etc yes?  Why is Kail just allowed to throw Javi out ? Have they agreed on something off camera ?? Cuz i if I was Javi i would walked in sat down in the couch and put my feet up and said I ain't going anywhere it's my house too you cow!

It is posted on the Kail thead a screenshot of the deed with only Javi's name on the home. Kail apparently needs to refinance the home, which she hasn't done yet. That may have been drawn up in their divorce decree with the courts giving her some time to refinance, but it is still in Javi's name as we speak.

The second thing is, we feel it was in Javi's best interest to not be around Kail in their home because she may go all Hulk on him and do to him what she did to Jo - file a false DV report and put a temporary restraining order on him. Javi cannot afford to allow that to happen to him especially since he is in the service. I agree, it is his home as much as hers.

[CofCinci]

8 minutes ago, DNR said:

This question may have been answered above or in Kails thread-  I don't know the laws in Delaware but both Kail and Javi own their home , not sure if his name is on the deed etc yes?  Why is Kail just allowed to throw Javi out ? Have they agreed on something off camera ?? Cuz i if I was Javi i would walked in sat down in the couch and put my feet up and said I ain't going anywhere it's my house too you cow!

He's on the deed. It's his house too. At the time of filming there wasn't a legal agreement. He was entitled to stay in the house if he wanted -- however, he knows Kail is a sociopath and would call the police.  His military career could be ruined. Javi recognized it was safer to live elsewhere -- plus he can fuck fans at the Hampton Inn versus the guest bedroom of Kail's bootleg Home Goods showroom. 

[Mkay]

2 hours ago, SPLAIN said:

It is posted on the Kail thead a screenshot of the deed with only Javi's name on the home. Kail apparently needs to refinance the home, which she hasn't done yet. That may have been drawn up in their divorce decree with the courts giving her some time to refinance, but it is still in Javi's name as we speak.

The second thing is, we feel it was in Javi's best interest to not be around Kail in their home because she may go all Hulk on him and do to him what she did to Jo - file a false DV report and put a temporary restraining order on him. Javi cannot afford to allow that to happen to him especially since he is in the service. I agree, it is his home as much as hers.

If you search for the deed in Kail's name, it comes up, too. It is in both of their names, with Javi first. It just doesn't show both of their names at the same time. 

See where it says additional owner. 

Edited February 1, 2017 by Mkay

[HeySandyStrange]

3 hours ago, CofCinci said:

Javi recognized it was safer to live elsewhere -- plus he can fuck fans at the Hampton Inn versus the guest bedroom of Kail's bootleg Home Goods showroom. 

I LOL'd at the bootleg Home Goods showroom, thanks for that. Great description for Kail's suburbia hellhole.

So now I'm picturing Javi going into the JAG office before he got home to get some legal advice: "Airman, it says here that you co-own the home that you lived in with your wife. I'd advise you to stay put when you get back until--Whoa, wait, you're married to Kailyn Lowry?! From Teen Mom 2?! Naw, son, grab your shit and go, don't look  back, don't let that trick get you! She scares me more then Jenelle!"

[Mkay]

2 minutes ago, HeySandyStrange said:

I LOL'd at the bootleg Home Goods showroom, thanks for that. Great description for Kail's suburbia hellhole.

So now I'm picturing Javi going into the JAG office before he got home to get some legal advice: "Airman, it says here that you co-own the home that you lived in with your wife. I'd advise you to stay put when you get back until--Whoa, wait, you're married to Kailyn Lowry?! From Teen Mom 2?! Naw, son, grab your shit and go, don't look  back, don't let that trick get you! She scares me more then Jenelle!"

Hahahahahaha

Edited February 1, 2017 by Mkay

[DNR]

Thanks for the answers guys!  I know divorce can be contentious but Kail , you have a kid with the guy and your obv over him but can you not act like a petulant child for one second ? Javi is an azzhole too but for your child's sake , grow the eff up. It took her years to not be a total dick to Jo so javis gotta put in some rough years ahead with that beast.

Def makes sense for Javi to reside elsewhere and then just get his cut from the house . I guess it's downgrade to part time daddy filming with Adam , Nathan, Jeremy for Javi on teen mom. 

I feel bad for these children ? Theyre immature parents just move on to the next lay and next family 

[DNR]

Thanks for the answers guys!  I know divorce can be contentious but Kail , you have a kid with the guy and your obv over him but can you not act like a petulant child for one second ? Javi is an azzhole too but for your child's sake , grow the eff up. It took her years to not be a total dick to Jo so javis gotta put in some rough years ahead with that beast.

Def makes sense for Javi to reside elsewhere and then just get his cut from the house . I guess it's downgrade to part time daddy filming with Adam , Nathan, Jeremy for Javi on teen mom. 

I feel bad for these children ? Theyre immature parents just move on to the next lay and next family

issac could break your heart 

[CouchTV]

Pic on right is July last year. It's amazing how she looks about twenty years older. Halftime custody and climbing over piles of clutter is sooo stressful! Anxiety, panic attacks...get those girlses some cheez whiz, stat! Really though, just buy one wheelchair van and share custody of it - whoever has Ali and HER CHAIR has the van.It's not like they don't already spend what, 150k a year on vehicles? I can't imagine trying to get that, or any, wheelchair onto the back trailer thing, it's easily ten times her weight. They will never get her a helmet. I worked with a kiddo who had to wear a helmet., to protect his head if he had a sudden seizure. The other students were a bit perplexed, questioned it...stared for awhile, then it just became a matter of course for everyone, within about three days. His mom said he just rocked the thing, wore it everyplace, no prob whatsoever. 

[StatisticalOutlier]

I'm still on the fence about being too rich, but I now definitely believe you can be too thin. 

[DoctorWhovian]

That before and after reminds me of Faces of Meth

[Uncle JUICE]

Maybe it's the way that bikini top is cut, but it absolutely looks like her nipples are cockeyed thanks to that West Virginia boob job. The one on her right looks like it's pointing straight out the one on her left is pointing directly at the camera. Come on now. Also she looks really bad, where in the first picture she's not borderline hot, she's actual hot. 

[ghoulina]

I didn't think Leah had had a boob job? I know, it's hard to keep them all straight. 

[Miss Chevious]

She said she didn't on one of the reunion shows (two weeks ago maybe?) but whether or not she can be believed is a different story. She said she wasn't a pill popper either.

[Christina]

They don't look fake to me, but I can't say I pay a lot of attention to other women's boobs. Farrah and Jenelle have those bolt-ons that are clearly fake, but if done well, I don't notice.

I also can't see her nipples in the photos, but not all women have perfectly symmetrical breasts.

Edited April 11, 2017 by Christina
Spelling like a Judge Judy litigant

[GreatKazu]

Leah's teeth have gotten bad. They looked really nice after the braces. In some scenes, especially during the reunion show, her teeth look like they are falling back into how they were before the braces. They also look more yellow. I guess the addiction, soda, and lack of hygiene is to blame.

[BitterApple]

I wonder if Leah didn't wear her retainer and her teeth are shifting back. 

[GreatKazu]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

I wonder if Leah didn't wear her retainer and her teeth are shifting back. 

She probably let Gracie play with them.

[Adiba]

22 hours ago, BitterApple said:

I wonder if Leah didn't wear her retainer and her teeth are shifting back. 

This happened with my daughter-- lost retainer, dog chewed up retainer, etc. Her orthodontist put a " permanent" retainer on her bottom teeth to keep them in place. I wasn't going to let thousands of dollars of work go to waste, so I willingly paid for the appliance!

[ReadMeLattice]

On 4/6/2017 at 5:23 PM, CouchTV said:

Pic on right is July last year. It's amazing how she looks about twenty years older. Halftime custody and climbing over piles of clutter is sooo stressful! Anxiety, panic attacks...get those girlses some cheez whiz, stat! Really though, just buy one wheelchair van and share custody of it - whoever has Ali and HER CHAIR has the van.It's not like they don't already spend what, 150k a year on vehicles? I can't imagine trying to get that, or any, wheelchair onto the back trailer thing, it's easily ten times her weight. They will never get her a helmet. I worked with a kiddo who had to wear a helmet., to protect his head if he had a sudden seizure. The other students were a bit perplexed, questioned it...stared for awhile, then it just became a matter of course for everyone, within about three days. His mom said he just rocked the thing, wore it everyplace, no prob whatsoever. 

Omg this is one scary Intervention level photo. She really looks like she has a severe eating disorder. Drugs are probably in the picture too but girlfriend really looks like she doesn't eat a thing. 

They have enough $ for two wheelchair vans. The ramps come down on their own so power chairs can go up them, it's not heavy. You can actually drive it straight into the van.

[Fosca]

Maybe this is part if the reason her nose looks so much bigger: she's lost so much weight that the rest of her face has shrunk around it.