Aquarius November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I just can't believe this. I keep thinking it must be a nightmare or a mistake. I honestly did not think this was possible. 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730798
ClareWalks November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Last night my husband had to go to dinner with his coworkers. He left at 7 PM and didn't get back until 9:45. I kept it together until he got home, but then I just burst into tears. I could not believe this was happening. He responded that a lot of the guys he was at dinner with were Trump supporters. Yeah, upper-middle-class white Christian men with six-figure salaries who have NO CLUE what this means for everyone else. It is infuriating. Even my husband, a stubborn ass who voted Gary Johnson because he dislikes Hillary so much that otherwise he wouldn't have voted AT ALL, knows to tread lightly around me today. My only hope is that Trump is reined in and ends up being a "normal Republican president." We've gotten through such things before. I am slightly terrified by 1) Mike Pence, and 2) how much Trump owes the NRA BIG TIME. Probably a Cabinet position or even two. AAAAAGH. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730803
HumblePi November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to mentally accept having a Trump presidency. Then there's Rudy Giuliani who Trump will possibly make Attorney General. Now the conservative alt-right is in power and this is going to change lives. I couldn't even bear to watch Kellyanne Conway on CNN this morning. I turned off the TV last night when the Trump family walked in smiling and waving to take the stage. Once I heard Trump say 'it's going to be a beautiful thing' I turned it off. The guy doesn't know how to speak Presidential. Hillary and Obama must have been shell-shocked last night. People left the Javitz Center in tears as though their family member just died. I quickly searched online for reactions from all over the world. Most heads of state were completely disgusted and in shock except for the representative of North Korea, he thought it was a great thing. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730810
Whimsy November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, Aquarius said: I just can't believe this. I keep thinking it must be a nightmare or a mistake. I honestly did not think this was possible. This is where I'm at. I feel like I am walking in a fog. This can't possibly be real!! 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730812
NewDigs November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I love me some devious cats. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730813
Guest November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Just now, HumblePi said: Hillary and Obama must have been shell-shocked last night. People left the Javitz Center in tears as though their family member just died. I quickly searched online for reactions from all over the world. Most heads of state were completely disgusted and in shock except for the representative of North Korea, he thought it was a great thing. Of course he did. I'm sure Putin did too. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730814
Chicken Wing November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, NewDigs said: I love me some devious cats. The whole country needs more cat videos today. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730815
ClareWalks November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 You guys, I am out of milk and I can't even think of a safe store to go to. The local Fareway will be full of Trump supporters. Walmart too. Probably the Hyvee. I guess I will try Target, since the alt-right is terrified of their bathrooms. This is so fucking sad. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730819
HumblePi November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, ClareWalks said: Last night my husband had to go to dinner with his coworkers. He left at 7 PM and didn't get back until 9:45. I kept it together until he got home, but then I just burst into tears. I could not believe this was happening. He responded that a lot of the guys he was at dinner with were Trump supporters. Yeah, upper-middle-class white Christian men with six-figure salaries who have NO CLUE what this means for everyone else. It is infuriating. Even my husband, a stubborn ass who voted Gary Johnson because he dislikes Hillary so much that otherwise he wouldn't have voted AT ALL, knows to tread lightly around me today. My only hope is that Trump is reined in and ends up being a "normal Republican president." We've gotten through such things before. I am slightly terrified by 1) Mike Pence, and 2) how much Trump owes the NRA BIG TIME. Probably a Cabinet position or even two. AAAAAGH. I think it was precisely these votes like your husbands, women, blacks and friends added to the numbers of women that simply just hate Hilllary on a personal level, not a professional level, that resulted in Trump's victory. Maybe nobody actual considered that their vote would help elect him and were just as surprised as we are today. "gee, I did that but I didn't really mean it". I think those hate voters had it in the back of their minds that they were only making a statement but not one that would actually change the election and put Trump in the White House. I don't believe they considered the real consequences of that. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730821
Guest November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I'm kind of mad at all of the people who voted third party out of spite because Bernie did not get elected. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730826
NewDigs November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, ClareWalks said: You guys, I am out of milk and I can't even think of a safe store to go to. The local Fareway will be full of Trump supporters. Walmart too. Probably the Hyvee. I guess I will try Target, since the alt-right is terrified of their bathrooms. This is so fucking sad. I have some cold beers! And a couple of splits. Glad I don't have to go anywhere. Hubby left for office stunned. That's okay. I think he was eyeing my beer. Dazed. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730827
ClareWalks November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, HumblePi said: I think it was precisely these votes like your husbands, women, blacks and friends added to the numbers of women that simply just hate Hilllary on a personal level, not a professional level, that resulted in Trump's victory. Honestly, I am furious at Gary Johnson voters but not at my husband. He would NOT have voted for Hillary, nor Trump. He would not have voted at all. He's abstained before. I told him I was pissed though because I feel like if someone has ANY preference, they should hold their nose and vote for the major-party person they hate least. I think the real problem is the people who would have been okay with voting Hillary, but didn't because they thought she would win anyway. 2 minutes ago, NewDigs said: I have some cold beers! And a couple of splits. Glad I don't have to go anywhere. Hubby left for office stunned. That's okay. I think he was eyeing my beer. Dazed. Cold beers are good for me but sadly the milk is for my toddler :( 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730835
Ohwell November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, HumblePi said: I think it was precisely these votes like your husbands, women, blacks and friends added to the numbers of women that simply just hate Hilllary on a personal level, not a professional level, that resulted in Trump's victory. Maybe nobody actual considered that their vote would help elect him and were just as surprised as we are today. "gee, I did that but I didn't really mean it". I think those hate voters had it in the back of their minds that they were only making a statement but not one that would actually change the election and put Trump in the White House. I don't believe they considered the real consequences of that. See that's the kind of condescending attitude about voters, that they didn't "really" know what they were doing, that motivated them to get to the polls and vote for Trump or Johnson or whoever else but Hillary. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730838
hoosier80 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Damn. Crying again. Reading lots of twitter from some insightful folks. I did look up to see that I won a crucial vote. One for "my" fab Dem congresswoman. Won with 68% of the vote, not even close. I didn't even see her take out ads or lawn signs. A lot of us have been sitting on the sidelines. I think this old broad may need to get off her fat ass and actually work for the next Presidential candidate. One guy that I think is outstanding is the Lt Gov of CA. It's a jump from Lt Gov to Pres, but I could see it in a few years. Lots of armchair quarterbacking. Would it have been different if Biden had run? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730843
NinjaPenguins November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I was a hardcore Bernie supporter who always knew that I would vote for the Democratic nominee, whoever it turned out to be. I am sickened that any Bernie supporter would cast his agenda into the ashes just because they didn't get their way. Maybe Hillary wouldn't be the most progressive progressive who ever progressed, but she's fucking smart and sane and actually knows how the goddamned government works. I miss my dog. Nothing brings the blood pressure down like a dog resting their head on your knee and thumping their tail as you pet them. 22 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730844
HumblePi November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, hoosier80 said: Damn. Crying again. Reading lots of twitter from some insightful folks. I did look up to see that I won a crucial vote. One for "my" fab Dem congresswoman. Won with 68% of the vote, not even close. I didn't even see her take out ads or lawn signs. A lot of us have been sitting on the sidelines. I think this old broad may need to get off her fat ass and actually work for the next Presidential candidate. One guy that I think is outstanding is the Lt Gov of CA. It's a jump from Lt Gov to Pres, but I could see it in a few years. Lots of armchair quarterbacking. Would it have been different if Biden had run? I think if Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden were the Dem candidate that Trump would have lost hands down. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730845
Hanahope November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Biden maybe, probably. Bernie had more skeletons in his closet than most know. I don't think he would have done better, tbh. All we can do is hope and pray that things don't get too fucked up in the next four years and there's a chance to redo. I'm not terribly optimistic atm, but its what I'm telling my kids. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730853
qtpye November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 You know guys this is going to sound crazy, but I think that so many of the idiot political pundits predicting that Hillary was going to win actually made people resent her more. We all know she had a likability problem, but this really made the people who hat her (including some Democrats) turn out in droves to show their disdain. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730859
WhitneyWhit November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I called into work this morning, I'm not in the mood for people today. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730871
callmebetty November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 (edited) Shallow things I thought of this morning cause I just can't handle thinking about the more complex right now. I hope to God the Cubs get the white house in the next month. What sports teams are going to want celebrate with that thing, President elect? What are the state dinners or press dinner going to be like? Are all late night shows going to be Jimmy Fallonesque where they rumpled President elects hair? Is SNL obsolete? Is Cosby going to be pardoned ? a gift from one rapist to the next? Barron looked dead eyed and could care less, in such contrast to the Obama girls who beamed with pride both times their dad won. And I said fuck it to healthy yogurt and ate a two package Hostess cupcakes for breakfast . Edited November 9, 2016 by callmebetty 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730875
Chicken Wing November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 12 minutes ago, HumblePi said: I think if Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden were the Dem candidate that Trump would have lost hands down. Biden probably would have won. He's part of the establishment, yeah, but he isn't disliked and I think a lot of people, including the anti-estab crowd, can relate to him a lot better than they do Hillary, which was part of her problem. Sanders's democratic socialism would have never gotten him elected. 18 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730878
ExplainItAgain November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I couldn't care less about Trump as a person. I care about everything this is going to affect, like SCOTUS, healthcare, Roe v. Wade, LGBT rights, etc. Especially with a Republican House and Senate. Sounds like Hillary is going to be speaking at 10:30a ET. 1 minute ago, WhitneyWhit said: I called into work this morning, I'm not in the mood for people today. Me too. Don't want to talk about it with people. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730880
HumblePi November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 (edited) I know one thing. I know that waking up white and middle class thinking that things quite possibly won't change drastically for me, yet anyway. But if I was waking up this morning as a Muslim mother or a Hispanic mother, I would be struck voiceless with fear. If I was gay or transgender, I'd probably consider going back into the closet in a new State. If I was black and living in a big city like Chicago or Dallas, I'd watch my back. If I was part of the gay community I'd be afraid that I'd be facing death from HIV down the road. We're going to see the power of the executive branch of this government expand its power without limits or boundaries. The President, Vice President, the President's cabinet, he Federal Reserve Board or the Securities and Exchange Commission, the CIA and Environmental Protection Agency as well as federal judges, ambassadors, and other federal offices. All of these agencies and departments are now going to be led by people appointed by President Trump (that was even hard to type). My mind is just being overwhelmed at the thoughts of our futures with these different agencies, all controlled by Trump puppets doing what Trump promised he'd do. Edited November 9, 2016 by HumblePi 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730881
Chicken Wing November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Just now, ExplainItAgain said: I couldn't care less about Trump as a person. I care about everything this is going to affect, like SCOTUS, healthcare, Roe v. Wade, LGBT rights, etc. Especially with a Republican House and Senate. I'm freaked out about all of the above -- nauseated that this ... man ... has been chosen to be the representative of the American people, and terrified of what he's capable of if Congress lets him have his way. (My only hope on the latter is that, though the Republican Congress got a "Republican" president, none of them really like or respect him either and will probably make things almost as difficult for him as they would have for Hillary.) 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730886
ClareWalks November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 You guys, my state went red, and I was so depressed. But I just checked, and my county went blue. THANK GOD. My neighbors are not a majority of hateful shitstains. It is sad that this is the most relieved I have been in the past 12 hours. 3 minutes ago, HumblePi said: I know one thing. I know that waking up white and middle class thinking that things quite possibly won't change drastically for me, yet anyway. But if I was waking up this morning as a Muslim mother or a Hispanic mother, I would be struck voiceless with fear. If I was gay or transgender, I'd probably consider going back into the closet in a new State. If I was black and living in a big city like Chicago or Dallas, I'd watch my back. If I was part of the gay community I'd be afraid that I'd be facing death from HIV down the road. I had the same thoughts last night. I am fortunate to be white and upper-middle-class and straight. I cried for everyone who isn't. And my fellow women. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730888
Hanahope November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, HumblePi said: I know that waking up white and middle class things quite possibly won't change drastically for me, yet anyway. It will depend on taxes. We know he'll want to give tax cuts to the rich and corporations. So someone will have to pay for it, and the poor don't have the money. The middle class does, for now anyway. Frankly, I'm terrified as to whether I'll still have a job in another year or two. My boss will probably retire with a nice parachute and with another 12-15 years to go before I can retire, I'm at a terrible age for looking for a new job, without a huge salary cut. And now I almost assuredly won't be able to afford healthcare for my family. Part of me is seriously considering pushing my husband to move us back to Europe with his family. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730895
NinjaPenguins November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I can hardly wait to go to work and see my racist, gun-loving co-workers today. Wonder how they'll celebrate? Another dropping of the N bomb? More concentration camp jokes? A fresh round of calling Colin Kaepernick a raghead? Good times ahead. Good. Times. 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730896
callmebetty November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said: I can hardly wait to go to work and see my racist, gun-loving co-workers today. Wonder how they'll celebrate? Another dropping of the N bomb? More concentration camp jokes? A fresh round of calling Colin Kaepernick a raghead? Good times ahead. Good. Times. Stay strong ninjapenguins , but if possible can you somehow slip laxatives into a coffeepot they drink out of? Edited November 9, 2016 by callmebetty 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730899
random chance November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 5 hours ago, aradia22 said: I feel like a lot of attention is going to where Hillary Clinton might have been weak or what could have been done differently. Not enough attention is going on Trump's bullshit rise to power. Given how the night turned out, what in God's name more could she have done? Besides finding a magic wand that turns half the country unracist, unbigoted and unmysogynistic. 5 hours ago, pennben said: Yeah, my relationship between television news and me receiving news is done for awhile. I'll read the news but I will NOT listen to voices that make me want to claw a wall. I'll stay informed, but not that way. Today is the first time in probably 30 years that I haven't turned on the TV first thing in the morning. Can. Not. Handle. 4 hours ago, CrazyDog said: My only hope is that Trump has painted himself as the only savior of this nation. When he fails to deliver on well, everything, I have to believe disgruntled voters might turn blue again. I believe that's the only way forward now - his people have to be shown (not told) that he's a piece of crap. He's a boil and they're the only thing that can lance him. And it is going to suck for them. Too bad this will also suck for the rest of us. 3 hours ago, sleekandchic said: I know I don't have to tell anybody here that within three months after President Lincoln was inaugurated, seven states seceded. If any states are seceding today I'll move there ten minutes later. 2 hours ago, mustbekarma said: I am so ashamed of this country. America was great. I said it last night too but, it's like that scene in Cabaret where the fresh-faced little kids leap up and snarl "Tomorrow belongs to me!" I mean you're sitting in a nice cafe enjoying a coffee or whatever thinking everyone around you is good and decent and it's a beautiful day and all of a sudden the friendly school teacher next to you is yelling his love for Hitler. 2 hours ago, HoosierJen said: I teach at a Junior/Senior high school in the middle of Trump-loving rural Indiana...... I feel ya. 2 hours ago, ABay said: My only consolation is that I'm too old (and unattractive ) to need birth control. Yes, I'm grateful for that too. 1 hour ago, Curio said: So...uh...will SNL have to hire Alec Baldwin full-time now? I blame them too. They spit in the face of fate by having her say, twice, that she'd be the next president. It was like saying "things could not get worse," or being a cop on a TV show who's one day away from retirement. 59 minutes ago, Bookish Jen said: I haven't been this frightened since 9/11. This is worse than 9-11. At least back then the terrorists weren't my fellow Americans. 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730903
HumblePi November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 The last two speeches given by President Obama in a rally for Hillary made me sense something that I didn't want to acknowledge at that moment. Of course, he's an incredible speaker, filled with passion and conviction. But there was something else that I saw in his face and eyes during those two rallies that I had never seen before in all his 8 years as President, 'FEAR' The fear in him was almost palpable, it was like you could reach out and touch it. It left me with a sick feeling and I shoved that feeling away thinking 'no, that can never happen'. With President Obama's knowledge about world affairs, I feel that he had a pretty good idea of exactly what the fallout from a Trump election would be. I know we have a difficult road ahead. But, as Ana Navarro said this morning on CNN, Donald Trump was elected by the people, it's their voices that were heard. He's our President and we have to try to accept him and work with him. Well sorry Ana, I just cannot. I can't accept him or any of his family or any of his people like Rudy Giuliani, Steve Bannon and Chris Christie. The thoughts of it makes me physically ill. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730906
FuriousStyles November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 31 minutes ago, heatherrrrz said: I'm kind of mad at all of the people who voted third party out of spite because Bernie did not get elected. I stood in my polling booth for a good 5 minutes trying to decide whether I would write in Bernie Sanders name. I have been pissed at Hillary and the DNC for months because of what they did to him. But ultimately I decided to vote for Hillary....and I live in NY so me voting for Bernie wouldnt have made a difference. I cant imagine what the people in Florida, NC or any other battleground state who voted for Gary Johnson or the 10,000+ people who voted for a dead gorilla were thinking. Why waste time in line if you're going to throw your vote away?? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730913
NinjaPenguins November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 They won't get a rise out of me. Initially they did after they discovered I was a bleeding heart liberal, but now I ignore them or dismiss them with a pithy comment and the ignorance peters out into awkward silence. They'll probably try extra hard today as they must be really feeling themselves. I feel terrible for all the people who can't even go to work today because they are physically or psychologically ill. It's like we all woke up in a different country. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730917
Guest November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, FuriousStyles said: I stood in my polling booth for a good 5 minutes trying to decide whether I would write in Bernie Sanders name. I have been pissed at Hillary and the DNC for months because of what they did to him. But ultimately I decided to vote for Hillary....and I live in NY so me voting for Bernie wouldnt have made a difference. I cant imagine what the people in Florida, NC or any other battleground state who voted for Gary Johnson or the 10,000+ people who voted for a dead gorilla were thinking. Why waste time in line if you're going to throw your vote away?? 10,000 people wrote in HARAMBE? are you freaking kidding me? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730918
callmebetty November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I forgot add I'm afraid of what his supporters will do when they descend on D.C. for the inauguration . Will they fuck shit up? especially the new African American museum? What kind of celebrities are going to show up for that? I just have to stop, thinking . 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730923
random chance November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, heatherrrrz said: 10,000 people wrote in HARAMBE? are you freaking kidding me? Idiots. Also, ironically, he would have been a better choice. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730931
hoosier80 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Co-worker and friend, a minority, is terrified. I am terrified, too. Not necessarily for me, as I'm an old white woman. It's like watching your country's principles unravel before your eyes. I keep thinking the US has been through bad, awful times before, we can get through this now. Except, our new "leader" is such a vile human being. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730934
NinjaPenguins November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Chachi will show up. Ted Nugent will rock the White House. Oh god, Uday and Qusay will have enough power and access to live up to their nicknames. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730936
Danny Franks November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, FuriousStyles said: I stood in my polling booth for a good 5 minutes trying to decide whether I would write in Bernie Sanders name. I have been pissed at Hillary and the DNC for months because of what they did to him. But ultimately I decided to vote for Hillary....and I live in NY so me voting for Bernie wouldnt have made a difference. I cant imagine what the people in Florida, NC or any other battleground state who voted for Gary Johnson or the 10,000+ people who voted for a dead gorilla were thinking. Why waste time in line if you're going to throw your vote away?? Anyone who wrote in another name or voted for Johnson because they felt Bernie was screwed? I hope they enjoy the next thirty or so years of right wing Supreme Court decisions. I've seen the list of potential Trump nominees, and they are scary. Progressives in America just became an endangered species. 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730937
MulletorHater November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, HumblePi said: The last two speeches given by President Obama in a rally for Hillary made me sense something that I didn't want to acknowledge at that moment. Of course, he's an incredible speaker, filled with passion and conviction. But there was something else that I saw in his face and eyes during those two rallies that I had never seen before in all his 8 years as President, 'FEAR' The fear in him was almost palpable, it was like you could reach out and touch it. It left me with a sick feeling and I shoved that feeling away thinking 'no, that can never happen'. With President Obama's knowledge about world affairs, I feel that he had a pretty good idea of exactly what the fallout from a Trump election would be. I know we have a difficult road ahead. But, as Ana Navarro said this morning on CNN, Donald Trump was elected by the people, it's their voices that were heard. He's our President and we have to try to accept him and work with him. Well sorry Ana, I just cannot. I can't accept him or any of his family or any of his people like Rudy Giuliani, Steve Bannon and Chris Christie. The thoughts of it makes me physically ill. I mentioned sometime ago how irritating it is when Progressives deride President Obama for "breaking his promise to get us out of Iraq." I've always believed that sometimes a newly elected president sees and becomes aware of things that we as ordinary citizens don't see. Getting us out of Iraq was not ever going to be an overnight thing. One of our clients is with Homeland Security and he told us a couple of years ago that we would be stunned at the number of threats they see everyday that the public isn't made aware of. Given Drumpf's propensity to ignore what intelligence officials tell him, particularly about Russia's aggression, President Obama has every reason to be afraid. And, no, Ana Navarro. I don't have to accept a damn thing. I didn't vote for Drumpf and never would in even my wildest nightmares. I will never accept him as my leader, nor will I accept any of the surrogates who will be be elevated to positions of power. As much as I screamed, "No more sons of Bushes in the White House!" a few months ago, I would have been disappointed if Jeb had won, but this nagging anger and fear is not something I would have experienced. #NotMyPresident #NeverTrump--EVER! 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730942
Chicken Wing November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 In the interest of doing something constructive, anyone want to join me in a petition for NBC to give Billy Bush his job back? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730949
HumblePi November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 13 minutes ago, Hanahope said: It will depend on taxes. We know he'll want to give tax cuts to the rich and corporations. So someone will have to pay for it, and the poor don't have the money. The middle class does, for now anyway. Frankly, I'm terrified as to whether I'll still have a job in another year or two. My boss will probably retire with a nice parachute and with another 12-15 years to go before I can retire, I'm at a terrible age for looking for a new job, without a huge salary cut. And now I almost assuredly won't be able to afford healthcare for my family. Part of me is seriously considering pushing my husband to move us back to Europe with his family. Yes we that are in that category where our worst fear is losing our 401K or Medicare or Social Security, it's a valid concern for sure. But we don't have the deep fear of an enforcement squad coming into our workplace or home to yank us out and deport the father of five legally born US children. We aren't a Muslim mother who will be afraid for her life going out to buy a loaf of bread or drop her child off to school. I won't be someone that's LGBT that had planned on fulfilling a dream by marrying their partner. I won't be a black man walking down the street in Chicago being afraid he's going to be shot in the back. So, it's comparing apples to oranges. Add to the mix the fact that the Mexican peso just lost 20% of it's value. Know what that means? It means that the Mexico federal reserves are about 35 billion dollars poorer today than it was yesterday. It means that there will be even more illegals trying to come into the US. It means that if they were just barely getting by on their meager paycheck every week that now they won't be able to make ends meet. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730953
Danny Franks November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, HumblePi said: Add to the mix the fact that the Mexican peso just lost 20% of it's value. Know what that means? It means that the Mexico federal reserves are about 35 billion dollars poorer today than it was yesterday. It means that there will be even more illegals trying to come into the US. It means that if they were just barely getting by on their meager paycheck every week that now they won't be able to make ends meet. Also, how will they ever pay for that wall now? The wall that was suspiciously absent from his victory speech. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730956
Chicken Wing November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 16 minutes ago, FuriousStyles said: I stood in my polling booth for a good 5 minutes trying to decide whether I would write in Bernie Sanders name. I have been pissed at Hillary and the DNC for months because of what they did to him. But ultimately I decided to vote for Hillary....and I live in NY so me voting for Bernie wouldnt have made a difference. I cant imagine what the people in Florida, NC or any other battleground state who voted for Gary Johnson or the 10,000+ people who voted for a dead gorilla were thinking. Why waste time in line if you're going to throw your vote away?? I stood in line during early voting for three freaking hours to cast a real vote. I understand if you don't like either of the realistic candidates on the ballot and I get the temptation of the "protest vote" just to make your voice heard -- though you're just yelling into thin air and, as what's her name on MSNBC said, if you're voting for someone who has no chance of becoming president, then you don't care who becomes president -- but have these people never heard of the expression "cutting off your nose to spite your face"? 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730960
HumblePi November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Hillary Clinton will be delivering her concession speech at 10:30 EST. I am confident that she will carry it off with calm and support for the Republican presidency, because that's how she rolls, she'll go high. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730968
MulletorHater November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 26 minutes ago, HumblePi said: I know one thing. I know that waking up white and middle class thinking that things quite possibly won't change drastically for me, yet anyway. But if I was waking up this morning as a Muslim mother or a Hispanic mother, I would be struck voiceless with fear. If I was gay or transgender, I'd probably consider going back into the closet in a new State. If I was black and living in a big city like Chicago or Dallas, I'd watch my back. If I was part of the gay community I'd be afraid that I'd be facing death from HIV down the road. We're going to see the power of the executive branch of this government expand its power without limits or boundaries. The President, Vice President, the President's cabinet, he Federal Reserve Board or the Securities and Exchange Commission, the CIA and Environmental Protection Agency as well as federal judges, ambassadors, and other federal offices. All of these agencies and departments are now going to be led by people appointed by President Trump (that was even hard to type). My mind is just being overwhelmed at the thoughts of our futures with these different agencies, all controlled by Trump puppets doing what Trump promised he'd do. I share the same concerns. I had to step back from someone I've known for some time who went on a tear about "Obama's aggressions and overreaching." This, while ignoring that the man has been obstructed from day one. Plus, she despised Hillary and was voting for Drumpf to "take a stand against tyranny." I didn't have the heart to tell the stupid bitch (Yes, I went low) that she hasn't seen anything yet. If she thought President Obama was a dictator, wait until she sees what Drumpf and his hand-picked cabal have in store for us. Checks and balances? That is out the window. I know that some of these GOP lawmakers can't stand Drumpf, but they will go along with whatever he wants because they live in states where their constituents voted for him. And, it's all about retaining power for them. And, wait until Paul Ryan is given a blank check to privatize Social Security and gut Medicare with his Ayn Rand-loving self. As I told one of my friends this morning, it infuriates me that a lot of young Black people didn't bother to vote because they weren't "feeling the candidate." Well, when their grandmother's Social Security is privatized and she's forced to move in with them and their parents, I don't want to hear nary a peep. Just the thought of Ghouliani instituting his stop-and-frisk policy nationwide to address the "inner city problem" should have been incentive enough to send their asses to the polls. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730969
NextIteration November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 41 minutes ago, HumblePi said: I think if Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden were the Dem candidate that Trump would have lost hands down. Joe Biden may have done better. I don't think Bernie Sanders would have fared any better against tRump - the Clinton campaign didn't hardly touch Sanders with oppo research - and Sanders was treasure rich. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730970
Danny Franks November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, HumblePi said: Hillary Clinton will be delivering her concession speech at 10:30 EST. I am confident that she will carry it off with calm and support for the Republican presidency, because that's how she rolls, she'll go high. She should just stand on stage, give the country the finger and say, 'good luck. You'll need it.' 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730971
HumblePi November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, Danny Franks said: Also, how will they ever pay for that wall now? The wall that was suspiciously absent from his victory speech. At this point, the wall is an unrealistic pipe dream. There won't be money there to build it. The wall was never something that was even remotely possible, it was only a talking point that Trump used to make people that hate Hispanics hopeful. It's never going to happen. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730982
Chicken Wing November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Not one damn thing he's said or promised or argued about -- i.e., everything people voted for him for -- is going to happen. He ain't doing shit. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/49804-post-election-fears-anxieties/page/20/#findComment-2730989
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