ReadMeLattice December 5, 2016 Share December 5, 2016 19 hours ago, GreatKazu said: Amber has misdirected anger at Farrah. It is Matt who is really pissed at Farrah for talking to Amber about how he contacted her on Twitter and tried to make moves on Farrah, the same way he did with Jenelle and eventually Amber. Amber took the bait. I can see Matt getting on Amber for even talking to Farrah about that Twitter shit. He likely took it to an abusive level. Now, Amber has to defend Matt at all costs, which is pretty damn sad. Gary had to have concerns about that whole mess with Matt's son living with them because of Leah's safety. Going by the Cray Gardens episode, Gary does ask Amber "What about Matt's son?" right after he asks her if she can pick up Leah from school and take her to her home. Amber says he has moved out with his girlfriend and "we don't see them much anymore" to which Gary responded, "good". None of that was mentioned on the reunion show, although I chalk it up to either editing or Gary was just being careful because we know Amber takes everything so damn personal and is so quick to erupt. I bet Gary didn't allow Amber to have Leah over her house while that other scumbag was there, but Amber made it all about her depression. The bolded is very true. He is totally the type of person to say something like, "how can you even think of not being on my side, how can you be such a hater," etc., and MUCH worse, if Amber ever mentions his wrongdoings. My husband caught his ex cheating on him when he looked at her email. Her response was "how is what I did worse than you snooping through my email?" Matt is totally that type of person. 11 Link to comment
toodywoody December 5, 2016 Share December 5, 2016 47 minutes ago, bethster2000 said: This. I belong to a terrific bipolar/depression support group and common topics of discussion are how to DO the types of things you mention (exercise, take care of your kid) in spite of the illness. Both Cate and Amber are just like Jenelle. They tell the world about every disease they have and then use that as an excuse to not do anything. There's always an excuse why they didn't do what they needed to do, like take care of their kids or make sure their kids are the number one priority, not their drug habit, not their new boyfriend/old boyfriend or whatever. They never put their kids first and are selfish. That's the only disease I see that they have is fucking lazy smug selfishness. Guess what ladies, the way you spend money on bullshit each will be broke within 2 years of this show ending and then they won't have time or money to cry and whine about diseases they don't have because they will have to get off their fucking asses and go to work and their kids will be old enough to see through their bullshit and want nothing to do with them. So when we get the special of Teen Mom: The kids turn 18, the kids will still be living with Barb, April and Gary. 14 Link to comment
GreatKazu December 5, 2016 Share December 5, 2016 Quote That's the only disease I see that they have is fucking lazy smug selfishness Right. I got off the bullshit train long ago and came to the conclusion neither one is sick or they are not as sick as they make themselves out to be. I do believe Amber could use some medication to help balance herself out, but overall she needs to get rid of Matt who is toxic to her. Once she removes him, she needs intense therapy and get to the root of her problems which include anger, low self-esteem, and the trauma of having had a father who was an alcoholic. 12 Link to comment
poopchute December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Dr Drew better flash back to last reunion where Maci said she was on the deli shot but was actually 20 weeks pregnant. lol I am leaving that typo. 16 Link to comment
Brooklynista December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Maci is still selling this BS story. Through PCOS, not producing eggs AND birth control, she gets pregnant. Wow. Uh huh. There's a lie in there somewhere. 14 Link to comment
lgprimes December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Dammit I turned the show on late and there's Ryan crying about his parents?! What did I miss?? 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Brooklynista December 6, 2016 Popular Post Share December 6, 2016 (edited) Debra, ummmm....your fiancé wants to fuck your daughter. First he's overly handsy with Farrah with that hug. Then he wants you to change your hair color to match hers? He's going full on Lolita on your ass. Dummy. Edited December 6, 2016 by Brooklynista 43 Link to comment
Popular Post SunshineSquid December 6, 2016 Popular Post Share December 6, 2016 Is Debra in the witness protection program? I turned on the show late and see her in a bad wig. 30 Link to comment
Ffiferoo December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Seems like Farrah had decided that she's going to just replace all of her negative thoughts with saying she "loves" things in some kind of bullshit attempt at being "positive", which I'm sure is super helpful and not at all confusing for Sophia. 7 Link to comment
Popular Post Brooklynista December 6, 2016 Popular Post Share December 6, 2016 I do appreciate Farrah putting Drew in his place. You're not my therapist? Cool, quit pretending that you're acting as a therapist. Stay in your lane as a tv host. Your soothing "trust me, I'm a doctor" voice is bullshit. 29 Link to comment
pinkelephant3 December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Bahahaha amber saying to Farrah shut your crooked lips up! qotn 7 Link to comment
Popular Post Brooklynista December 6, 2016 Popular Post Share December 6, 2016 I love a good trash bag fight but I sure hope Christina gathered up her daughter Leah and got her the hell outta there. 30 Link to comment
Popular Post poopchute December 6, 2016 Popular Post Share December 6, 2016 Amber should ask for a refund for that Mommy Makeover. Yikes. 26 Link to comment
Popular Post Christina December 6, 2016 Popular Post Share December 6, 2016 I skipped over from football in hopes to laugh my ass off at this altercation, but it was really sad and pathetic. Amber came across way worse than I think she thought she would, and Farrah hadn't even said anything terrible about her. Just a comment about Matt looking like a pedophile, which I can see would be offensive, but the fight made him and Amber look even trashier. I was a bit jealous of the security that got to put Matt in a head-lock, though. I've never really thought of causing him harm, but it just seemed like fun. 26 Link to comment
Court December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Farrah speaks the truth, though. He does look like a pedophile that lives in his mom's basement. 20 Link to comment
mamadrama December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 The only “trashy bitches” were Amber pulling a Springer and Catelynn calling it out. And Matt went right for Michael. I rewound that scene (okay, several times) and Michael hadn’t really done anything up until that point. Besides, Farrah wasn’t the one Snapchatting about the rest of the cast. Why weren’t Amber and Matt going for Simon? 17 Link to comment
Popular Post Brooklynista December 6, 2016 Popular Post Share December 6, 2016 (edited) I cannot believe I'm applauding Farrah. We were all witness to the phone call between Farrah and Amber where Farrah expressed genuine concern for the Ambers well being. We all know Amber knows Matt is a piece of shit. She is just powerless to admit it. Amber is spinning out of control. It's easier to be angry than it is to be proven wrong I guess. Edited December 6, 2016 by Brooklynista 31 Link to comment
ClassyCourtHeels December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, poopchute said: Amber should ask for a refund for that Mommy Makeover. Yikes. Yeah. Yikes. Or maybe she doesn't realize the make over isnt a free pass to eat like shit again. It's not some reset button and you can continue your same life. Matt in a head lock was absolute gold. Also Farrah said Matt looked like a pedo. Which he does. I figured prior that she said he was a pedo. Edited December 6, 2016 by ClassyCourtHeels 14 Link to comment
poopchute December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 How is it possible for Catelyn to somehow look even more hideous than she looked last week when this was all from the same day?! Is it because we saw her in motion tonight? Holy shit she is gross. She seriously looks like a 45 year old fat clown. And Amber looks so bad I can't even think of how I want to describe her. There are no words!! 14 Link to comment
Christina December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Maci blaming Farrah for her walk-out was something else. Farrah wasn't there because AMBER tried to hit her. Point your blame in the correct direction, people. Farrah is vile, but she was not the wrong one here. 21 Link to comment
Ffiferoo December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 I totally agree about Farrah being right for once when it comes to her calling Amber. That was something that I was impressed by, and it was very disappointing that despite Amber putting off the wedding to Matt, she clearly doubled down on trying to convince herself that he's good for her. Now she's just a different kind of mess. 16 Link to comment
TeenMomAngerMgmt December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, Brooklynista said: I cannot believe I'm applauding Farrah. We were all witness to the phone call Bren Farrah and Amber where Farrah expressed genuine concern for the Ambers well being. We all know Amber knows Matt is a piece of shit. She is just powerless to admit it. Amber is spinning out of control. It's easier to be angry than it is to be proven wrong I guess. Farrah was the only one trying to tell her dumb ass that Matt wasn't worth a tinker's damn. Like, she actually approached her as a friend about it, and then Matt spun it negatively and Amber believed him. 21 Link to comment
annemarieko December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 (edited) On 11/28/2016 at 11:08 PM, mayvenne said: Quote 'Hearty agreement with the comments from tonight- I was highly offended at Dr Drew telling Christina she needs to take the lead when Gary gets anxious or something to that effect. WHAT?????? Gary was so levelheaded and soft spoken and conciliatory. Amber is a loose cannon. at first I was enjoying her being so frank and telling Dr Drew that he should stand up to Farrah- but then Amber just went crazy about everything. About Farrah, about Gary, about everything. And Christina and Gary are being told they have to walk on eggshells to be fair?? WTF They should take away whatever license "Doctor" Drew has. Luckily two working class twenty somethings are seemingly miles ahead of this overeducated guy who's probably never pulled a fraction of the work load that Gary and Christina have in the past years. Gary was carrying the ball for Amber before Christina ever showed up and he's learned how to calmly but firrmly get his message across that he's more than willing to try to understand and accommodate this train wreck but that Amber doesn't even want the hours she already has with Leah. She wants him off the stage ASAP because she can't distract him and knock him off his point anymore, and she hasn't one fact at her disposal to counter him. She is, and I'm sure even more infuriating to her, looks to the audience as though, she's lying through her teeth,trying to manipulate everyone around her, and besides dabbing at non-existent tears, there's nothing left for her but to walk off the stage. I've never been fond of Amber but the mask totally fell off on the reunion show and we saw true ugliness. The doctor lucked out because if I'd have been Christina, him having the chutzpah to tell her to take on another job beside the ones she already has, I'd have slapped him in his face. Christina has obviously done a lot for Leah and has serious issues with her own daughter's health, but she should pause to try to counsel Amber who has no job, no one to look after and whose main preoccupations are her boob and lipo jobs which she "deserves" because she never felt good about herself. Gee, I wonder if Chistina felt beautiful growing up. Drew doesn't seem to put any thought into what he's going to say on these shows. Mom to mom???? What support do you think Amber has given to Christina or indeed to anyone in her life? Oh and the tearful yelling at Gary about all the sacrifices she's made for Leah. What sacrifices were they again? Edited December 6, 2016 by annemarieko adition 16 Link to comment
Brooklynista December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 11 minutes ago, poopchute said: How is it possible for Catelyn to somehow look even more hideous than she looked last week when this was all from the same day?! Is it because we saw her in motion tonight? Holy shit she is gross. She seriously looks like a 45 year old fat clown. And Amber looks so bad I can't even think of how I want to describe her. There are no words!! It was as if her boobs were running from each other. They were flopped on the opposite sides of her belly. Her posture is terrible. She was dressed as an extra from the Partridge Family complete with cork platform shoes. She's just a damn mess. She should use the money she's spending on her animal farm to hire a damn stylist and someone to slap the giant quesadillas out of her mouth. 23 Link to comment
poopchute December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Oh thanks for reminding me about the cork platforms. I died laughing at the three of them clomping off stage. Was it so loud because they don't know how to walk in heels or because they are obese? 9 Link to comment
lasandi December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 LOL. Drew all up in the business of Ryan and the fight with his father but the "teen moms" on the show he handles with kid gloves. What the fight was about. Why doesn't Ryan work? Hey man would appreciate your finding out some real shit about Amber, Macie, and the rest of them girls. Ryan's girlfriend said she is not going there and they are fine now. Good for her. I am looking at it while I am typing and can't believe he is going in with questions. Damn Daniel. Aww Ryan is crying. STFU Drew. None of your damn business what they were fighting about. 15 Link to comment
ClassyCourtHeels December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 (edited) Also from the Ashley I thought Michael was in the wrong from the description, but that wasn't the case at all. He was out there protecting his daughter and Matt comes rushing out in his face. Matt was the aggressor and not Michael like I was expecting. Edited December 6, 2016 by ClassyCourtHeels 17 Link to comment
FlowerofCarnage December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 If Amber only put half as much energy into parenting Leah as she did in trying to beat Farrah's ass... Simon just said what a lot of people were thinking about Matt. Simon and Farrah are simply business partners. Looking at Ryan, it was like he was struggling to keep focus and compared what Dr. Drew's was saying. maybe he really does suffer from a brain injury. 13 Link to comment
Miss Chevious December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 (edited) There's just so much to comment on this time. I'll start at the beginning. Maci:Ryan drops off the face of the earth for months. Dr. Drew: you ever ask him about it? Maci: No. WTF, your child's father isn't actively involved in his life on a regular basis and you don't think to ask him about it? So glad Dr. Drew finally asked Ryan about not having a job. Lazy slug. And Jen. Ripped jeans, just no, honey. You're not 30 anymore. Ryan's GF acted more like his babysitter. At least we were spared the sight of her underwear this time around. Second biggest prize of the night went to Dr. Drew. For losing control of the room not once, but twice. First, with all the teary-eyedness. He had four people sniffling into their hankies. Then with the epic battle of Amazon Ambah vs Fat Lips Farrah. First prize goes to Marilyn, oops Ambah, storming out with insults blazing and fists flying. She instigated that whole disgusting scene. I hope she gets embarrassed thinking about Leah seeing that someday. Gary's got some good ammo though. Don't think he'll be giving her more time with Bew Bew anytime soon. Did anyone else notice Simon's sly grin when that was taking place? He smirked through the whole thing. Speaking of smirking, Debra with that wig looked like Mortician Addams. Maci talks a big game but she knows MTV is her cash cow, as do Catelynn and Amber. Notice they all came back with their significant others (minus Farrah of course) for audience appreciation at the end. And lastly, whoever the stylist is, should be fired. Catelynn's pants. Those baggy striped things went out in the 70's. Edited December 6, 2016 by Miss Chevious Was going to change To Morticia Addams. Think I'll leave the way autocorrect put it in. 10 Link to comment
TexasGal December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Tyler looked like he wanted to cry after the girls staged their walk out. "What?!? I don't get to talk anymore?!" 7 Link to comment
woodscommaelle December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 I don't think Catelynn has ever had an original thought in her life. 17 Link to comment
Snarky McSnarky December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Amber sending love via Twitter: Fuck @MTV they cut half of what happened out!! Amber is all about love. Just ask her. 14 Link to comment
lasandi December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Drew started that fight between Farrah and Amber as he brought up the comment that Simon said. Notice that Drew would not say Amber did anything wrong by charging in there, did not say it's wrong to try to put hands on someone. He will never be real when he should be. So if Farrah, Maci, Cate and Amber can leave, I am leaving this damn reunion too. Lol ciao! 3 Link to comment
WhosThatGirl December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Okay the walk out like I predicated when I heard about it weeks ago.. stupid and lame. The point is empty when they've filmed enough for a show because they know they won't get paid if they don't. Way to make no sort of stand. 11 Link to comment
FairyDusted December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Fuck that was a good one. I am shamed to say I cried with the couch of Ryan. Just wow! Did Matt throw Micheal on his ass???? I can't leave without saying something about Deb's wig. I liked the color but it way too much. She looked like a poor mans Lisa Vanderpump. Closest to a Real Housewives Reunion. More to come I have to re roll that a few damn times...... 6 Link to comment
LotusFlower December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, Snarky McSnarky said: Amber sending love via Twitter: Fuck @MTV they cut half of what happened out!! Amber is all about love. Just ask her. So the part that was shown was only 50% of the angry tirade Amber expressed?! Oh Amber. Never change. I hope Gary and Leah's mom, Kristina (TM Brooklynista) were watching. 12 Link to comment
WhosThatGirl December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Dr. Panda legit made me laugh unintentionally tonight though. When he told Farrah he wasn't her doctor as an excuse for saying some joke on a radio show about her, after Amber and everyone left after the brawl and he calmly said "well. That happened" and when the walk out went down down and he was just like trying to do so his usual pregnancy stats and goodbye. 4 Link to comment
nichelle December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 (edited) All of these people are broken. I can't get behind either Farrah or Amber. Edited December 6, 2016 by nichelle 6 Link to comment
lasandi December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 18 minutes ago, FairyDusted said: Fuck that was a good one. I am shamed to say I cried with the couch of Ryan. Just wow! Did Matt throw Micheal on his ass???? I can't leave without saying something about Deb's wig. I liked the color but it way too much. She looked like a poor mans Lisa Vanderpump. Closest to a Real Housewives Reunion. More to come I have to re roll that a few damn times...... WAIT, Debra with that wig. OMG when Debra said (looking at the audience), "what do you guys think of the color?" Farrah answered that it looked fine, it looked good. From the audience I heard crickets. And Michael looked out at the audience with an expression that said it all, I guess at the deafening silence. Debra did a thumbs up at the applause I am sure she heard in her head. also Brooklynista, I think you are right. Debra's fiancé wants her to look like her daughter. Who knows, next time we see Debra she will have a big arse and pumped up lips. 13 Link to comment
Popular Post GreatKazu December 6, 2016 Popular Post Share December 6, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ffiferoo said: I totally agree about Farrah being right for once when it comes to her calling Amber. That was something that I was impressed by, and it was very disappointing that despite Amber putting off the wedding to Matt, she clearly doubled down on trying to convince herself that he's good for her. Now she's just a different kind of mess. And it is obvious, to me at least, Amber didn't call off the wedding as much as it was Matt who doesn't want to marry Amber because he would then be 50 percent legally responsible for Amber's debts. He is not going to take on that shit. He is there for moola, cash money, not debts. 23 minutes ago, nichelle said: All of these people are broken. I can't behind either Farrah or Amber. They all need a good ass whoopin', serious intervention in the therapy department, meds, and they all need to take ownership and be held accountable for all of their bullshit. But there is one thing I will not and cannot get behind and that is the slut-shaming that has been going on behind and in front of Farrah by the cast members AND MTV ever since she made that damn porn tape. Call Farrah a rude, callous, shallow, vapid, crazy ass questionable mother and daughter, but none of them bitches on the show have no room whatsoever to even begin to point out Farrah's faults nor can they point a finger at anything she did to earn a dollar. As if they are all so high and mighty as they sit there and clutch their imaginary pearls, wearing Mac make-up, sitting in clothes and shoes that they earned by selling their soul and using their children to get what they want - more MTV screen time and MTV money. Fuck them bitches. Edited December 6, 2016 by GreatKazu 37 Link to comment
FlowerofCarnage December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, Snarky McSnarky said: Amber sending love via Twitter: Fuck @MTV they cut half of what happened out!! Amber is all about love. Just ask her. She might want to delete that tweet since thanks to MTV, her convicted felon with no marketable skills-self is able to earn 300,000 a season. Edited December 6, 2016 by FlowerofCarnage 18 Link to comment
GreatKazu December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, FlowerofCarnage said: She might want to delete that tweet since thanks to MTV, her convicted felon with no marketable skills self is able to earn 300000 a season. While looking like a cheap floozy, too. 14 Link to comment
Meatball December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 1 hour ago, poopchute said: Oh thanks for reminding me about the cork platforms. I died laughing at the three of them clomping off stage. Was it so loud because they don't know how to walk in heels or because they are obese? It was also because the audience was dead silent. You know the Coven was thinking the audience would applaud them for taking a stand after they did everything they were supposed to do. Good one, morons! There is nothing sadder than trash with cash. 19 Link to comment
nichelle December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 5 minutes ago, FlowerofCarnage said: She might want to delete that tweet since thanks to MTV, her convicted felon with no marketable skills self is able to earn 300000 a season. H ...h....h...how much? $300K per season? I don't follow these folks that closely so I have no idea how much they make. 1 Link to comment
LotusFlower December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 6 minutes ago, FlowerofCarnage said: She might want to delete that tweet since thanks to MTV, her convicted felon with no marketable skills self is able to earn 300000 a season. Didn't she say she's "done with this show?" In all seriousness, she'll never quit, and she's in no fear of getting fired. If they don't fire the moms for doing drugs, doing porn, smoking pot on camera, driving in a car (with kids in the back) while high, abusing the exec. producer, and hitting and assaulting people, etc..., then they certainly won't fire anyone for a FU tweet. 16 Link to comment
GreatKazu December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 Farrah taking issue with Deb dating. Why is it ok for Michael to be in a relationship, but not Debra? 7 Link to comment
mittsigirl December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 I totally agree with the posts about Gary & Kristina, and how they have made such a secure & loving home for Leah and the new baby. I just love Kristina, to me she is beautiful inside & out. With them for parents, Leah knows just how much she is loved and cared for. She is not stupid, you can read her little face when Amber is lying to her. I wish we knew if Kristina & Gary ever read here, they deserve to know how much they are supported and thought of, and what a great job they are doing with Leah. And I wish that little Nova could join the family of B&T, and learn how real love and security feels when you are a little kid. I wish that they would stop all visitation with Cate & Tyler, I just don't see it adding anything positive to her little life. 14 Link to comment
lasandi December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 I know I said I was leaving the reunion but I was reading your comments and somewhere Amber said MTV only showed 50% of what happened. So I rewatched Amber's stomp to the stage. Now the ratchet shows I watch when you bum rush the stage you are going to knock a nucka out. Amber did it to point her finger in Farrah's face and yell at her to shut her mouth. Yes there was security and Amber made a half hearted attempt to hit Farrah but she missed. All that loud yelling does not make you a "bad girl". She could of stayed off stage with all that noise instead of embarrassing herself. She kept saying "do something " and I was saying, "you ran out there, you do something." So what 50% do you think wasn't shown? Amber calling Farrah a bitch 47 more times. AND did you hear right after that cufuckle (sp? Lol Judge judy's word), Drew said to Farrah "it seems that Amber always had your back before. She would always support you..........". Did Drew not see what just happened? That was before, this is now. Drew must be the boringest man that ever lived. 11 Link to comment
mittsigirl December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 7 minutes ago, LotusFlower said: Didn't she say she's "done with this show?" In all seriousness, she'll never quit, and she's in no fear of getting fired. If they don't fire the moms for doing drugs, doing porn, smoking pot on camera, driving in a car (with kids in the back) while high, abusing the exec. producer, and hitting and assaulting people, etc..., then they certainly won't fire anyone for a FU tweet. It would not surprise me to hear that Matt is shopping around for their own reality show. 11 Link to comment
WhosThatGirl December 6, 2016 Share December 6, 2016 14 minutes ago, Meatball said: It was also because the audience was dead silent. You know the Coven was thinking the audience would applaud them for taking a stand after they did everything they were supposed to do. Good one, morons! There is nothing sadder than trash with cash. Yeah, I don't think they made any sort of stand here. Each girl did their segments and spoke with Dr. Drew enough for a whole show already. The only thing they didn't get on film was all four girls sitting and during a 5 minute thing before ending the show. What stand did they take again? If all three were that angry that times or whatever had to be switched around because of Farrah refuse to go on at that time, not at the end of the day. It makes no sense. And yes I know that they didn't take a real stand is because taking a real stand would mean jeopardizing their paychecks but if they think they did anything at this reunion taping they sadly did not. 9 Link to comment
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