Donald John Trump: 2016 President-Elect

[slf]

9 hours ago, Duke Silver said:

After every GOP administration during my lifetime (I turned 30 in October), at least by my recollection of history, a Dem administration has to come in & clean up the economic mess created by a GOP administration.  These arguments that these voters wanted Trump due to economic concerns just seems like such utter bullshit to me.  I'll call it for what I see from the Trump supporters I've encountered IRL:  it's entirely about their fear of losing their "God-given right" at the top of the social heap, nothing more.

I think after 8 years of Obama, the reality started sinking in that the demographics are changing, quickly.  The white electorate will not be the majority by around 2060 (though most of these voters don't know these specifics, I'm sure).  The only "fear" is loss of a white majority.

I think this is what it boils down to. This is really all about Making America White Again. That's why, for example, all discussions about immigrants by Trump/Republicans have been about how they are

A) Mexicans and Muslims, aka not white
B) committing all this crime, especially murder against white people (whites kill the majority of whites)
C) responsible for the country having, as Trump put it, the highest murder rate in 45 years (in fact we have the lowest murder rate in 51 years, half of what it was when the country was 90% white)

It's why his supporters are totally fine with Melania (like many white Central/Eastern Europeans) having worked illegally in the US, or (the mostly white) Canadians who come here on work visas and then overstay (the demo most likely to do so). And it's not really about crime as white immigrants have historically been associated with crime and that's been romanticized; mafias, mobs, illegal liquor and drugs (Canada has been a major supplier of ecstasy and meth in the US), etc. They don't dislike white immigrants at all, and have even gone hard for them.

[AntiBeeSpray]

3 hours ago, candall said:

This made me smile.  (But we're kind of already there, aren't we?)

 

Hello, this is HUGE.  Here's the letter to Obama, in full, signed by the seven Dem members of the US Intelligence Committee (Repub members refused to sign):

"We believe there is additional information concerning the Russian Government and the U.S. election that should be declassified and released to the public.  We are conveying specifics through classified channels.  Thank you for your attention to this important matter."

Since this move is totally unprecedented, I have to think there's something more going on here than some evidence that the Russians did something shady that MAY have had an impact on the vote count.  You don't stick your neck out like that just for the sake of turning up the volume on the speculation and grumbling about conspiracies after a win by the opposition.  The head of the NSA already announced publicly that Russia did hack in and tried to interfere to achieve "a specific effect." (It is my humble opinion that US Intelligence is now in possession of proof that the Russians stole our goddamn election from Hillary and gave it to T.  But that's just me.)

Obama will break my heart if there's no response from the WH.  I've been sympathetic to his extremely difficult position, but he wouldn't let something like that slide in the interests of "smooth transition" and not making waves, would he??

Except, those seven senators who signed appear to have thought so, or they wouldn't have published this letter in the first place.

It will be interesting to see how much coverage this gets on today's news shows.

Rachel Maddow covered it last night. I'm glad that they stood up.

[stormy]

doughy cry baby man tells his adoring fans, we must come together and unite.

Yet when he mentions Hillary's name at his self-congratulatory rally yesterday, the lynch mob chants "lock her up!"

Ignorant doughy doesn't even have the smallest amount of common sense on how to bring people together.  If there is ever a national disaster under his watch, he won't even have a clue what it takes to be consoler in chief and those of us that despise him, won't give a crap to be hearing from him anyway.

Edited December 2, 2016 by stormy

[Cupid Stunt]

Paul Ryan assures America that he has spoken to Donald Trump about the Constitution

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For anyone concerned about President-elect Donald Trump's grasp on the Constitution, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) is already on the case. When asked about Trump's understanding of the differences between running a country and a business empire, Ryan said he has talked to Trump "extensively" about the founding document, particularly the section on the separation of powers. "We've talked about the Constitution, Article 1 on the Constitution, the separation of powers," Ryan said in an excerpt of a 60 Minutes interview set to air Sunday. "He feels very strongly, actually, that under President Obama's watch, he stripped a lot of power away from the Constitution, away from the legislative branch of government, and we want to reset the balance of power so that people and the Constitution are rightfully restored."

Trump's handle on the Constitution has been questioned on several occasions, such as when he said in July that he supported Article 12 of the Constitution. The Constitution has just seven articles.

I don't see "Codger Starver" Ryan and Hair Gropenführer sipping Bacardi Cocktails and munching Cheetos on the davenport, while watching Schoolhouse Rock videos on the Preamble of the U.S. Constitution, "I'm Just a Bill," Separation of powers, and Electoral College. In my mind's eye I see The Closet Objectivist reciting chapters from "The Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology" and "The Virtue of Selfishness" from memory, while Herr Furor digs restively in his pants pockets, playing billiards.

[Ocean Chick]

Ryan may have talked about the Constitution, but I doubt the Tangerine Turd heard any of it.  He was too busy thinking about how hot his daughter was, and where his next hotel/casino/golf course should go.  I'd be honored to share a cell with any of you here, if I make it that far.  They might well decide to shoot this "old, grey head" for sake of efficiency instead, cause I'll go down fighting.  While calling that PO**S every name in the book.

[windsprints]

Trump’s Breezy Calls to World Leaders Leave Diplomats Aghast

[fishcakes]

The very fact that the American public needs to be reassured that the President-Elect understands the Constitution is evidence that he's unfit to lead.

[candall]

In the "be careful what you wish for" category, I don't think we need this inflamed asshole to emerge from his Penthouse of Power to start being more accessible and giving press conferences.  I OD'ed on this one "post-election rally."  He's DISGUSTING.  Still lying, still bragging, still encouraging the crowd to turn around and spit on the reporters.  (Still with the stupid fucking hand gestures.  Grrrr.)  Just go back home and tweet at us.  Send the Seawitch out with edicts from the throne.

I did notice that since he won--"in a landslide," no less--there's no longer any reason to seed the crowd behind him with non-white supporters or fake doctors wearing gold stethoscopes.

[callmebetty]

So I see another interview that's going to be on CBS .  So can we all just agree this will be the only station left in which Panem will give its propaganda messages?

[tenativelyyours]

55 minutes ago, Lunata said:

Donald Trump really believes that he can manipulate and use people simply through flattery, charm and sweet-talking. It may have worked in his business dealings, and it certainly has worked with Kellyanne Conway. He honestly believes he can do the same with someone like Nawaz Sharif of Pakistan, Bashar al-Assad of Syria and Vladimir Putin. That's not only stupid, it's gravely dangerous. The fact that Donald Trump declines daily briefing underscores concerns about his ability to manage the international challenges he will face in office.

Have you heard about the shouting match between Republican staffer Jennifer Palmieri and Kellyanne Conway at the Harvard meeting this week?  The extraordinary exchange came at a postmortem session sponsored by Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government, where top operatives from both campaigns sat across a conference table from each other. I heard a short audio of the exchange this morning.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/02/504093288/bitterness-overwhelms-as-trump-and-clinton-campaign-staffers-face-off-at-harvard

 

I think a big part of it is his simple projection.  Which is simple but also overwhelming.  If he is guilty of something it is the immediate go to to accuse his opponents of the same thing.  From the daft, like when he called Rosie O'Donnell fat and disgusting over and over again, there where pictures of him not trussed up in his corsets and suits like a boar for roasting with a gut that overflowed his golf pants like a pudding cup turned upside down on a 102 degree summer day.  To the most recent when he kept calling Clinton on all kinds of things.  That had not a shred of her even have accusations of such aimed at her, let alone evidence all the while we had court documents that spelled out his own involvement in such issues.  Fraud.  Cronyism.  Conflict of interest.  Race baiting.  Misogyny.

And the flip side of course is that he is so easily flattered.  And flattery goes such a long way.  Look at his ridiculous response to the criticism of Putin.  He likes Putin because Putin called him bold and attention grabbing -- basically Putin said he was like something shiny that catches your eye even when you try to focus on something else.  It was not a compliment.  But the translation turned the shiny part into brilliant.  Not MIT brilliant but brilliant like a sequin in strong light.  And that was all it took for the Rancid Yam to start his mutual admiration society. 

So he just throws out adjectives he wants associated with himself.  Great.  Wonderful.  The best.  He even dumbs down his own self-described attributes.  the whole I have the best words still has me completely dumbfounded.  My three year old nephew would stick to I talk good and he has a three year old vocabulary.  The kid's sweet but he isn't creating hopes for a Nobel yet.  He's three.

But what I find scary is he has no clue how other people think.  He is such a narcissist that he simply operates in a realm that is all him.  He only can say to others either what he most wants to hear or doesn't want to hear.  And his wants are so incredibly and almost idiotically immature and shallow.  He has to be the best at everything even when there is either no best (the fact that he refuses to operate on a level that just allows for this is staggering and one of the more scary aspects of him having any power or influence whatsoever) or him being the best is simply a ridiculous posit.  Like the health comment.  His gut alone is bigger than President Obama's entire torso and four limbs. 

There is no nuance.  And so I suspect that he will make ridiculous broad sweeping meaningless statements when he wants something, like with the call to Pakistan he wants to simply be able to say he talked to another world leader and that alone makes him Presidential (no it doesn't, it merely means that it is part of the office no matter who is sitting in the seat) or he will get into childish and equally ridiculous name calling when another nation or leader doesn't do what he wants or give him the accord he feels he deserves. 

Also I am sure that a big part was him simply mouthing meaningless positive adjectives because he was waiting to have it given back.  But being so self-absorbed and entitled he was simply throwing it out as randomly and quickly as he could so he could then sit back and be told by another nation's leader how great he is and how great it will be to work with him. 

It is interesting that we are getting all these kind of petty exchanges with other nations leaders.  They are definitely ones that in a rather recent past have been troublesome nations for the US under Obama (simply because they are trouble spots that you have to balance and will never be completely happy with the US no matter what) if not openly hostile.  Whether it is May in the UK who wasn't thrilled with the US taking a pragmatic approach to Brexit before the vote by pointing out that the US' best interests trade wise and defense wise was to support the EU after the leave simply because for us as Americans, we would rather have a strong EU for trade, and for stability and a strong opposition to Putin trying to play strongman of Eastern if not all of Europe in his open expansionist plans.  It just seems a bit calculated.  Not to show us a leader willing to take the nation in a different angle of compromise to lessen tensions and expand communication.  But simply as a neener neener approach to thumb his nose at Obama.  As if talking to the national leaders who do not have the best interest of the US or an open and democracy-leaning world for that matter shows up Obama.  Instead of making the Rancid Yam look vapid at best and a downright moron at.. well not worst.  More as most likely. 

He gets on the phone and makes all these empty worthless and meaningless word salads and yet I would love to hear exactly what his plans are in regards to Pakistan.  What his thoughts are as to the current regime, the state of the opposing parties, the struggle in the western part of the country, how he sees its borders with India and with Afghanistan and the various ethic issues that could see nuclear weapons in hands that are strongly anti-US as well as thinking a limited nuclear engagement with India is Allah's will?  Hell I want him to find it on a map for that matter.

[backformore]

29 minutes ago, windsprints said:

Trump’s Breezy Calls to World Leaders Leave Diplomats Aghast

Yeah, he has NO IDEA.  As President, he is supposed to invite other world leaders to come and talk to him - be a gracious host.   Instead he gives them "give me a call if you're ever in the neighborhood"  brush-off.  And when he uses elaborate praise for one country, he is just doing some ass-kissing because he doesn't know what else to say.   But he has no ability to recognize that when there is unrest between two other countries, and the US president praises one, it might be seen as offensive or as taking sides in a dispute.

From that linked article:

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“By taking such a cavalier attitude to these calls, he’s encouraging people not to take him seriously,” said Daniel F. Feldman, a former special representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan. “He’s made himself not only a bull in a china shop, but a bull in a nuclear china shop.”

Edited December 2, 2016 by backformore

[izabella]

1 hour ago, stormy said:

Yet when he mentions Hillary's name at his self-congratulatory rally yesterday, the lynch mob chants "lock her up!"

Were they not paying attention last week when he said he had no interest in "locking her up"? 

[khyber]

Interesting article about how Trump focused in on what certain voters really wanted.

https://medium.com/@rortybomb/learning-from-trump-in-retrospect-dce431b23ed0#.k0f7m6qjv

[sistermagpie]

12 hours ago, Duke Silver said:

After every GOP administration during my lifetime (I turned 30 in October), at least by my recollection of history, a Dem administration has to come in & clean up the economic mess created by a GOP administration.  These arguments that these voters wanted Trump due to economic concerns just seems like such utter bullshit to me.  I'll call it for what I see from the Trump supporters I've encountered IRL:  it's entirely about their fear of losing their "God-given right" at the top of the social heap, nothing more.

Yes, I think when people look at the reaction of the demographic they're just never reacting to the thing we’re supposed to think they care about. Actual stats about the economy are just tossed out in favor of the narrative that Obama tanked it. Unemployment must always be high, even to a ridiculous degree. Sometimes there’s superficial explanations for this, like the fact that when you look at unemployment you have to make sure they haven’t changed who’s being counted as unemployed, or if some people have just given up looking for work etc. But even that requires a serious engagement with those numbers that is beyond the interest of the people being described.

 

One thing I’ve found amusing in the election is the way that “economic anxiety” has become a joke euphemism for racism because that’s how much that narrative gets pushed and that’s how hard it is to believe. Sometimes it honestly seems like some (white) people would die before somebody could actually be motivated by bigotry. Or as I read somewhere, “Some people think you can’t be racist if you didn’t personally turn a firehouse on a black person in 1963.”

It seems to me that when it comes to reaching those workers the Dems should concentrate on what they already are supposed to (and somewhat do) stand for. That they are much better about the economy, that they have actual plans to help people, that they actually respect working people in terms of the work they do. Like they respect that their work is important and they’re an important part of the economy and the country—not that they represent some mythical pure Americanness that nobody else can live up to because they watch Duck Dynasty or whatever.

 

But of course that also means having policies that are focused on that and going out and selling them—and selling them to all working people, not just the special group who are white. Michael Moore made a great point when he talked about how the people of Flint were abandoned. If that situation isn’t top priority for you, how can they really believe you care about you? Enough with the coddling flattery about how certain people represent all that’s best in America and that any president needs to be “one of them.”

[candall]

58 minutes ago, izabella said:

Were they not paying attention last week when he said he had no interest in "locking her up"? 

Oh, no, you haven't seen how he instigated it.  He just took a happy little stroll down the Anti-Hillary memory lane.

[izabella]

9 minutes ago, candall said:

Oh, no, you haven't seen how he instigated it.  He just took a happy little stroll down the Anti-Hillary memory lane.

I saw some of it, and it was sickening.  And, all of it was old news, since he was raking over the same ground he muckraked during the campaign. 

Too bad he didn't take a moment to say a word to the folks in Tennessee, ravaged by wildfires and tornadoes, not so far from Cincinnati.  Those people are the ones who voted for him, but I guess he can't spare a moment to give them any thought.  Can't wait until he privatizes FEMA and other disaster relief so no one gets much funding to rebuild.  Bet those (white) people in the destroyed mobile homes have no insurance, no nothing, and have now been wiped out and will be dependent on state and federal safety nets and welfare for a while because they are HOMELESS.  But no, Lock Her Up! is all these yahoos care about.

Edited December 2, 2016 by izabella

[SoSueMe]

1 hour ago, izabella said:

Were they not paying attention last week when he said he had no interest in "locking her up"? 

Trump's supporters tend to have selective deafness.

[Padma]

2 hours ago, fishcakes said:

The very fact that the American public needs to be reassured that the President-Elect understands the Constitution is evidence that he's unfit to lead.

Ryan couldn't even reassure us that Tubby understands the Constitution himself. All Ryan could do is try to protect his own image on the subject, "I've been telling him about it."  I'm quite sure the "tutoring" has not been successful.

The media continues to normalize things he does that are abnormal. Like the disgusting victory tour. Who does that? I feel sorry for Democrats in Ohio who came out to vote for Hillary and now have Trump there as if everyone in Ohio loves him.  I have never seen such sore winners as these people. And when he talks about "our people" and "getting everyone to join in our unity", I think Ryan's lessons about the constitution and democracy are a complete and total failure. He never, ever addresses how to respect and be president of all the people (aka the majority) who disagree with him and "his people".

As much as I dislike Trump, I can't stand KAC.  At least he periodically tries to be friendly and charming, as sociopaths will.  She's just angry, smug, insincere, a liar and hateful. I cannot remember any political operative whom I've disliked so much and respected so little. I truly believe she would say anything, defend anything, if the pay was high enough. 

[potatoradio]

1 hour ago, sistermagpie said:

It seems to me that when it comes to reaching those workers the Dems should concentrate on what they already are supposed to (and somewhat do) stand for. That they are much better about the economy, that they have actual plans to help people, that they actually respect working people in terms of the work they do.

Yep. Also, the Dems need to get aggressive about the fact that racism and economics are completely intertwined. The "working class" ain't just white people. Also, working class doesn't necessarily mean a factory job. It now means jobs in the service industry or the food industry or healthcare. So, just shut it, white whiners. Your precious lily white "working class" is already diverse and the solution to economic woes is not to try to make it white again. It's to fight for workers' rights and living wages and decent union representation. 

I refused to watch any of the Tubby Two Minutes Hate Speech. I saw a link in the media thread, though, that was a bit reassuring. That rally was NOT well attended. The arena wasn't even close to capacity. So, no, Tubby, you don't have throngs and throngs of people bowing down to your greatness. You have a seriously pissed off majority who will hold every Dem accountable for fighting you and who will hold MSM responsible for reporting the truth about your con job, even when he eventually tries to cut you out of the picture and resorts to nothing but Panem-style YouTubes for "coverage." Save your pretty hate machine propaganda for those few people who still dry-hump to the sound of your voice. The rest of us are too busy saving our country.

[izabella]

1 minute ago, Padma said:

The media continues to normalize things he does that are abnormal. Like the disgusting victory tour. Who does that?

Rachel Madow pointed out that MSNBC, while covering the Trump victory tour, had a banner at the bottom of the screen the whole time that said:  Trump Holds First Rally Since Election" like it was a normal thing for Presidents to do.  Talk about normalizing the ridiculous and not-normal!

The banner should have read: Trump Holds Rally for No Reason or Trump Holds Rally to Bolster His Ego or Trump Wastes Taxpayer Money Holding Rally

4 minutes ago, potatoradio said:

I refused to watch any of the Tubby Two Minutes Hate Speech. I saw a link in the media thread, though, that was a bit reassuring. That rally was NOT well attended. The arena wasn't even close to capacity.

Unfortunately, that is not how it looked on tv when the media reported on it.  They didn't mention it was half empty.

[AntiBeeSpray]

28 minutes ago, potatoradio said:

Yep. Also, the Dems need to get aggressive about the fact that racism and economics are completely intertwined. The "working class" ain't just white people. Also, working class doesn't necessarily mean a factory job. It now means jobs in the service industry or the food industry or healthcare. So, just shut it, white whiners. Your precious lily white "working class" is already diverse and the solution to economic woes is not to try to make it white again. It's to fight for workers' rights and living wages and decent union representation. 

I refused to watch any of the Tubby Two Minutes Hate Speech. I saw a link in the media thread, though, that was a bit reassuring. That rally was NOT well attended. The arena wasn't even close to capacity. So, no, Tubby, you don't have throngs and throngs of people bowing down to your greatness. You have a seriously pissed off majority who will hold every Dem accountable for fighting you and who will hold MSM responsible for reporting the truth about your con job, even when he eventually tries to cut you out of the picture and resorts to nothing but Panem-style YouTubes for "coverage." Save your pretty hate machine propaganda for those few people who still dry-hump to the sound of your voice. The rest of us are too busy saving our country.

Word. Stand up for everyone.

I saw bits of it. Tubby Two Minutes Hate Speech is right (it definitely fit right along with 1984). Definitely. Glad that a lot of people aren't supporting him.

[stormy]

Was that his "Mission Accomplished" speech?  Sans the aircraft carrier, flight jacket and yuge banner?

What I caught and didn't mute, I saw on CNN this morning.  The lock her up chanting is so disturbing to me, that I was upset for an hour afterwards.

Edited December 2, 2016 by stormy

[Padma]

32 minutes ago, izabella said:

The banner should have read: Trump Holds Rally for No Reason or Trump Holds Rally to Bolster His Ego or Trump Wastes Taxpayer Money Holding Rally

Unfortunately, that is not how it looked on tv when the media reported on it.  They didn't mention it was half empty.

The media is still complicit with this guy! They haven't learned anything about holding him accountable and getting out the truth not the lies and staged fiction ("Everyone loves me, America!") that he produces.  Why don't they get it?

And ITA about the much needed banner. ("Mission Accomplished! Just duped 63 million people and will soon turn my millions into -real- billions!")  I really want to know how much all those unseemly, undignified and offensive rallies yesterday cost us, the taxpayers.

Also more about that crooked deal with Carrier. (And good on Sanders for calling it out. Too bad Trump continues to read the media well as a generally "free publicity/propaganda" machine.

[callmebetty]

13 minutes ago, Padma said:

The media is still complicit with this guy! They haven't learned anything about holding him accountable and getting out the truth not the lies and staged fiction ("Everyone loves me, America!") that he produces.  Why don't they get it?

And ITA about the much needed banner. ("Mission Accomplished! Just duped 63 million people and will soon turn my millions into -real- billions!")  I really want to know how much all those unseemly, undignified and offensive rallies yesterday cost us, the taxpayers.

Also more about that crooked deal with Carrier. (And good on Sanders for calling it out. Too bad Trump continues to read the media well as a generally "free publicity/propaganda" machine.

While continually bad mouthing MSM  and calling them biased, but do they do anything ? Nope they don't want the bully picking on them so they will only report good things about him. 

He's the bully straddling the MSM making them hit themselves with their own microphone "Why you hitting yourself , why you hitting yourself "

Edited December 2, 2016 by callmebetty

[Menrva]

On 11/29/2016 at 10:24 AM, Toomuchsoap said:

Roaches don't just "go away". They have to be exterminated.

In light of this statement, I found this to be quite funny:

http://www.bkmag.com/2015/02/10/name-a-cockroach-after-your-ex-for-just-10-at-the-bronx-zoo/

I can think of more than a few that deserve a cockroach named for them…

[Toomuchsoap]

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media is still complicit with this guy! They haven't learned anything about holding him accountable and getting out the truth not the lies and staged fiction ("Everyone loves me, America!") that he produces.  Why don't they get it?

Does it not feel to just about everyone populating this thread that TPTB everywhere (from the FBI, to broadcast media) seem to be complicit in what just happened, is happening now? I feel as if I've fallen through the looking glass directly into an Orwellian reality. I've been doing a lot of reading, and I'm posting links to three articles that each and every one of us can't afford to miss. The business about a handful of Democrats in congress writing an open letter to President Obama about declassifying the FBI's report on Russia's interference in this election is chilling. More chilling and very inexplicable is the very fact that the president seemingly has no plans to do so. What's happening here? Does it not feel as if somebody is actually holding President Obama hostage with a gun pointed at his head? Both he and Hillary are acting as if they are hostages and their lives and those of their families are at stake. Makes one wonder, ARE THEY?

The following article is about the new FBI legal capability of hacking into any entity anywhere in the world now.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/38599-fbi-gains-new-hacking-powers-while-gop-congress-sits-on-sidelines

The next article is about a Canadian journalist detained by US border agents when he attempted to reenter the country.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/business/media/canadian-journalists-detention-at-us-border-raises-press-freedom-alarms.html?_r=1

And, finally, this article, while lengthy, is chilling in all its ramifications for the future of the country - the world -  the planet and its creatures (and that includes us).

https://www.thenation.com/article/is-america-poised-to-become-the-most-dangerous-country-on-earth/

Edited December 2, 2016 by Toomuchsoap

[sacrebleu]

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Speaking of, given how much Trump hates the press, will they just cancel the White House Correspondents Dinner?  

I'm hoping they don't. The dinner is run by the White House Correspondent's Association-- and if Trump keeps up his media blackout, I hope they hold the damn thing, and make it the biggest nerd prom DC has ever seen. And not invite Trump.

They aren't required to invite the president, it's just become a tradition. But given Trump's insecurities, the best way to get access to him, is to deny him something. 

If I were the WHCA, I'd make it the hottest ticket in town, and deny him a ticket.

Edited December 2, 2016 by sacrebleu

[numbnut]

23 hours ago, numbnut said:

I'm going to need a steady dose of Colbert, Oliver, Noah, etc. to get through this embarrassing moment in U.S. history. Conan has a funny bit about Trump calling Obama for advice...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW1XstE6tio

More Obama/Trump phone calls on Conan. This is just too funny. Just what I need.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe2456MZB5c

[Duke Silver]

https://twitter.com/xeni/status/804772627638259712

 

Trumpgrets

Cry me a river.

[Ceindreadh]

50 minutes ago, Menrva said:

In light of this statement, I found this to be quite funny:

http://www.bkmag.com/2015/02/10/name-a-cockroach-after-your-ex-for-just-10-at-the-bronx-zoo/

I can think of more than a few that deserve a cockroach named for them…

Would be tempted to name one Trump, but it wouldn't be fair on the poor cockroach. 

[MulletorHater]

18 hours ago, debbie311 said:

He's talking now.  He is such a boastful, classless ass.  He is going on and on and on about how he won "bigly."  How all the polls were wrong, the press is a bunch of liars.  He actually demeaned AGAIN the anchor who was in tears the night of the election.  Get over yourself!  Move forward!  Talk about HOW the hell you are going to make all these wonderful things happen that you have promised.  The whole purpose of this "thank you" gig of his is just to blow his own horn, stroke his ego. 

That, and to distract attention away from the fact that he's appointing rich folks to his mis-administration whose mission is to strip away not only the ACA, but also Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.  The question I have is when those things happen, who are Emperor Tang's cult members going to blame?  Oh, wait...Obama, right?

Apparently, the economy added another 178,000 in November, bringing the unemployment rate to a 9-year low of 4.6%.  Are corporate media even talking about this, as well as the steady job growth that the country experienced under President Obama's stewardship?  At all?  Instead, they're focusing on 850+ jobs that Emperor Tang "saved" at taxpayer expense. 

Yes, Emperor Tang is a boastful, classless ass who can't resist tooting his own horn.  However, I contend that these "victory rallies" are cynically manipulative stagecraft masterfully designed (like the tweets).  More than anything, Emperor Tang is a salesman.  He knows how to stage not only massive rallies, but also seminars and other sales tactics where the script is played out.  He is re-staging this particular road show, using the same talking points that got his followers whipped up in the first place.  Toward that end, he is distracting not only the media, who dutifully report his every brain fart to the delight of the corporate suits.  He is also doing it to distract his cult members, who attend his "prayer meetings," rapturously cheering, falling out, crying and waiting on that "great gettin' up morning" when America will be White again--just as Emperor Tang all but promised.

It won't occur to them until it's too late that for all the GOP's talk about despising "big government," it's the people who actually rely on big government that the GOP elite despises.  People like those in the Rust and Bible Belts who depend on government assistance in some form or another.  White people like those who have become addicted to meth and heroine and are taking their lives in unprecedented numbers.  Struggling Whites who are being talked about the way conservatives usually talk about Black people.  People who foolishly believe that Emperor Tang has a soft spot for poor and uneducated people.  They chose to be distracted by Emperor Tang's shiny new object--Carrier--while their pockets are being picked. 

[MulletorHater]

18 hours ago, Lunata said:

I'm with you on this, Kellyanne Conway is so irritating that I can't watch her. She's a skilled communicator and if anyone needs a skilled communicator, it's Donald Trump. I did a side-eye look a few times at some of the photos and video I've seen with her and Donald together. The look in her eyes when she's looking at him is downright creepy and yes I'll say it, I bet she gets on her knees for him too. The second most irritating is Katrina Pierson, followed by Scottie Nells Hughes. Why are these women so unlikable? I thought that I only find them repulsive because I find him repulsive, but no that's not it. They are obnoxious, nasty, snakes all on their own.

<<<<  Ew

And, don't forget that trifling bottom feeder, "Pastor" Omarosa.  Where has she been lately?  I've yet to hear about her being summoned to the Tower of Doom so that she can be rewarded for her loyalty.  Instead, she's running around literally crying and bawling about how she only wanted to help the Black community (boo hoo!  sob!) and now all her friends have turned on her, including a person who was to be a bridesmaid in her wedding.

Let me digest that for a moment...that bitch actually has friends?

Drumpf's "Director of African-American Outreach" mentioned that her father figure was keeping a list of enemies made up of those who didn't support his run.  Which is why I fear for Senator Graham.  But, to tell you the truth, I fully expected to see Omarosa and the Crypt Mistress sharing equal billing as Drumpf's mouth pieces in the media.  But, it's been all KAC all the time.  Probably because she's good at what she does, including talking to the 70-year-old titty baby as if he was one of her own kids to get him to do what she needs him to do.  To my knowledge, Omarosa hasn't been much of a success at anything and even managed to botch her 4 gigs in the Clinton White House.

My question is, was it worth losing your friends for a possible job in the Alt-White House?

[Padma]

For a time, I shared the media's respect for KAC and complimented her, but no more.  I've seen enough of her to think that Kellyanne is a liar who is practiced in the art of defending a liar. It's like complimenting Goebbels. She's a propagandist with no discernible moral compass whatsoever.

I am disgusted that they're calling liberal Dems the "alt-left".

Speaking of Graham, he's still standing up to Tubby: https://www.yahoo.com/news/senators-drafting-bill-to-limit-trump-era-deportations-172242328.html

[ChimmyChai]

We have to be living in an alternate universe right now.  Or maybe Trek's evil Mirror universe.  Because in the original universe I never said, "Wow, I agree with Glenn Beck/Lindsay Graham."  And yet now I seem to say it all the time.

[Padma]

My son says its because Kirk took the whales into the future. :)  Somehow I'd feel better imagining this as the evil Mirror universe, an alternate reality, a messed up timeline (or for Trekkies, think "the intro to 'Enterprise's' Mirror universe episode. That intro would be perfect for an intro to a video of Trump World, complete with the timeline where the Nazi's had won WWII.)

Glenn Beck and Lindsay Graham are the good guys now. Fact is stranger than fiction!

[numbnut]

1 hour ago, Duke Silver said:

Trumpgrets

Cry me a river.

I'm still baffled by how most of his voters didn't know who they were voting for. His reputation for being a self-absorbed ass is hard to miss. 

[Rapunzel]

5 hours ago, izabella said:

I saw some of it, and it was sickening.  And, all of it was old news, since he was raking over the same ground he muckraked during the campaign. 

Too bad he didn't take a moment to say a word to the folks in Tennessee, ravaged by wildfires and tornadoes, not so far from Cincinnati.  Those people are the ones who voted for him, but I guess he can't spare a moment to give them any thought.  Can't wait until he privatizes FEMA and other disaster relief so no one gets much funding to rebuild.  Bet those (white) people in the destroyed mobile homes have no insurance, no nothing, and have now been wiped out and will be dependent on state and federal safety nets and welfare for a while because they are HOMELESS.  But no, Lock Her Up! is all these yahoos care about.

This is a good point. Has he even given one Tweet regarding what those people in TN are going through? From what I saw of his victory speech (and I only watched snippets because I couldn't tolerate any more than that) did he even mention them or was it all just him bragging, telling ridiculous lies and trying to sooth his poor, damaged ego - because we all know that the popular vote thing is killing him.

When I first  moved to Southern CA in 2007, that was when we had massive wild fires all around San Diego and also in parts of LA. I had only been here a few months, my husband was out of the country still taking care of some things back in London, and I got the automated, emergency services call at 3am telling me that I had to evacuate my home immediately. I threw what I could in a suitcase, grabbed some of the photo albums, the computer and whatnot, and the second I opened the front door I couldn't see my hand in front of my face. There was smoke so thick everywhere and ash falling all around that made it look like there was a snowstorm.

I went to a friend's house who lived not far from me but hadn't been evacuated yet. We soon saw the fire start to burn down the hillside in her backyard and we piled our stuff into the car and went further north to our boss' house, then they were evacuated, and finally we went to LA (Northridge) to my friend's parents', and we were there for four days until they would allow us to return to our neighborhood and our homes. For those four days we had no idea if our homes were still standing or not.

Thankfully, all that happened to my home was that a lot of ash had blown in though the cracks around the front door and some of the windows, but no major damage. The fire, however, had burned right up to the cement wall that surrounds my community and everything on the other side of it, the trees, bushes, everything - was completely burnt out.

A lot of my colleagues lost their homes and everything they had, save for the clothes on their backs and maybe their car. It was hard to find places to stay - hotels were full, you couldn't find apartments to rent, etc. My company helped out quite a bit and raised money, we donated clothes, toys, household items, etc., we had an internal message board set up so that people could find other people to stay with, etc. My husband and I had a couple stay with us for 6 months while they were sorting things out with their insurance and until they could find a place to rent while work began on their house.

Thankfully, eventually everyone got back on their feet and my company did a lot to help - more than what the government did and a lot faster. It was truly a frightening experience though, and for Trump to care more about making some stupid victory tour because he his ego is too damn fragile than to show some support for these people and use his influence and his own resources to help them then he's an even bigger ass that I thought. He'll probably lie at some point and say he donated money to them or that he helped make arrangements for those that were displaced using his own money or some crap, but we know it won't be true - that's his track record. Maybe he'll donate a thousand dollars or something and claim it was some absolutely yuuge, massive, donation - so yuuge, he rebuilt a whole town.

Right now though, he's too focused on this stupid waste of time and money Tour of Lies and Hate. I did notice, as others mentioned, that those sitting behind him or that were on camera in the audience, were pretty much all white - no more even trying to place any POC where they would be seen so he can paint another illusion and brag about how much minorities love him.

I know Obama is in a tough spot, but he needs to try to do something to help us with his last bit of time left in office and not just wait until he's out. He may be trying to reason with Trump and persuade him to do certain things, but this victory tour and the way Trump behaved and the things he went right back to saying about Hillary and the Dems prove that nothing Obama is saying to him in these phone calls or whatever is sinking in. There's also these ridiculous calls to foreign leaders and this mess he may have now likely landed us in with Pakistan and India, the fact that he won't meet with the advisors and experts on those countries before he makes these calls, the fact that he won't take the daily briefings etc. All of these things are just some of the examples that show he isn't taking whatever advice Obama may be trying to offer. We need our sitting President to try to help us - he can start by helping with the issue that Russia almost certainly did fuck with our election, therefore destroying our democratic process and that very likely the wrong person is PE. That alone should motivate some action. He has to be diplomatic about it, yes, but things keep getting worse and something needs to help stop it before it goes any further.

Edited December 2, 2016 by Rapunzel

[Kromm]

Conservative Economist says that Trump's Carrier Speech was "the worst economic speech since Democratic presidential nominee Walter Mondale promised to reverse Reaganomics in 1984".

Now we may not agree with this conservative think tank about Mondale's speech, or Reganomics, but think about the fact that even ultra-conservative think tanks are spitting mad at how stupid and nonsensical Trump's "positions" are.

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Trump boasted about his deal to keep about 1,100 Carrier jobs in Indiana, and also took aim at other companies who may be thinking about moving jobs out of the country. 

"Companies are not going to leave the United States anymore without consequences. Not going to happen. It's not going to happen, I'll tell you right now," Trump said on Thursday.

Pethokoukis, a scholar with the conservative-leaning American Enterprise Institute, called it the worst economic speech since Democratic presidential nominee Walter Mondale promised to reverse Reaganomics in 1984.

"The idea that American corporations are going to have to make business decisions, not based on the fact that we've created an ideal environment for economic growth in the United States, but out of fear of punitive actions based on who knows what criteria exactly from a presidential administration. I think that's absolutely chilling," he said in an interview with CNBC's " Closing Bell ."

[candall]

2 hours ago, izabella said:

Rachel Madow pointed out that MSNBC, while covering the Trump victory tour, had a banner at the bottom of the screen the whole time that said:  Trump Holds First Rally Since Election" like it was a normal thing for Presidents to do.  Talk about normalizing the ridiculous and not-normal!

The banner should have read: Trump Holds Rally for No Reason or Trump Holds Rally to Bolster His Ego or Trump Wastes Taxpayer Money Holding Rally

Unfortunately, that is not how it looked on tv when the media reported on it.  They didn't mention it was half empty.

 

2 hours ago, callmebetty said:

While continually bad mouthing MSM  and calling them biased, but do they do anything ? Nope they don't want the bully picking on them so they will only report good things about him. 

He's the bully straddling the MSM making them hit themselves with their own microphone "Why you hitting yourself , why you hitting yourself "

I don't get it.  DT points at the press section, rebukes and scorns them, inspires the crowd to turn around and snarl at them--all because of their "bias."  And not one of them does a simple comment-free camera pan around the venue to add the "level of attendance" information to the story?  Why not??  Is that somehow not technically part of the story?  Because that would be perceived as disrespectful?

It's something else I would never have known if I hadn't read it here--which is alarming, since I saw clips of the "rally" on about twelve different news shows during the day.  (I had to keep changing the channels.)

And I didn't bump into a single mention of The Senators asking The President to tell The Public about the connection between Russia and the US election.

Did I just happen to miss the outcry?

[ruby24]

This fucking idiot just called Taiwan and now we're risking an international incident with China.

[candall]

26 minutes ago, Rapunzel said:

[snip]

We need our sitting President to try to help us - he can start by helping with the issue that Russia almost certainly did fuck with our election, therefore destroying our democratic process and that very likely the wrong person is PE. That alone should motivate some action. He has to be diplomatic about it, yes, but things keep getting worse and something needs to help stop it before it goes any further.

YES!!!  This guy is making breezy phone calls that are going to get us nuked.  Step away from the Rule of Diplomacy and do something!

[Kromm]

3 hours ago, izabella said:

Rachel Madow pointed out that MSNBC, while covering the Trump victory tour, had a banner at the bottom of the screen the whole time that said:  Trump Holds First Rally Since Election" like it was a normal thing for Presidents to do.  Talk about normalizing the ridiculous and not-normal!

The banner should have read: Trump Holds Rally for No Reason or Trump Holds Rally to Bolster His Ego or Trump Wastes Taxpayer Money Holding Rally

Know who else insisted on still having rallies after his election?  A little German guy (well actually Austrian-Hungarian) with a funny mustache.

Edited December 2, 2016 by Kromm

[AntiBeeSpray]

1 hour ago, ruby24 said:

This fucking idiot just called Taiwan and now we're risking an international incident with China.

What the fuck? O_O 

Raise your hands if you think he shouldn't even be allowed into the inauguration.

[MulletorHater]

1 hour ago, numbnut said:

I'm still baffled by how most of his voters didn't know who they were voting for. His reputation for being a self-absorbed ass is hard to miss. 

I know, right?  I'm also baffled by the number of people feverishly peeing in their underwear with anticipation of Drumpf sending Hillary to jail.  Forget that it's an abuse of power.  How about the fact that while they're foaming at the mouth about the Clinton Foundation, the man they chose to vote for used his own "foundation" as a slush fund and that said "foundation" wasn't even certified to accept funds in the first place.  Not to mention his own shit is raggedy when it comes to corruption and other criminal activities.  But, oh, let's lock Hillary up; please don't make me regret my vote.  I have two words:  "fuck" and "you."

 And, actually whining about the possibility of Lyin' Ryan getting rid of those "entitlements" that they've paid into all their working lives?  What in the ever-loving fuck do they think he has been saying and doing for the last 8 years?  It's all led up to this moment!  But, nope!  Too busy cussin' and fussin' because Ryan didn't want to be seen campaigning with the "populist" champion.  Now, what?  It may not be what they wanted, but it's exactly what they voted for.  Enjoy the long lines at the soup kitchen.  Maybe Drumpf will show up for a photo op, while he and his family fake-wash already clean pots and pans and pretend to serve meals, and then roll out on their private jet when they've gotten the photo op they wanted.

And, is someone actually lamenting because she went against many things she believed in, in the hopes that Drumpf would create jobs?  Sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying!  Let me see...multiple bankruptcies with numerous lives shattered and vendors left holding the bag; openly hostile to unions; claimed American workers were paid too much; nickels and dimes contractors and claims their work is shoddy as pretext to not pay them; has numerous business interests in other countries because it's cheaper to pay someone 25 cents an hour in China than it is to pay an American worker a living wage.  What, in all of that, told this idiot that Drumpf would create jobs?  Oh, and just so you know, Miss Lady, many of those workers who built his properties were--wait for it--undocumented workers!  So you voted for a liar who can't even practice what he preaches.

My favorite though are the voters actually regretting their choice now because of his tweets and he can't keep his lips zipped until January 20?  Seriously?  After all the shitty things he said during the campaign via Twitter, why, in the name of all that is unholy, did you vote for him then?  Didn't Drumpf show you all who he was the first time?  Do you expect him to "pivot" and start acting presidential now?  Pssst!  Here's a secret:  He NEVER wanted the job!  He was whipping you all into a frenzy because he saw you as future marks and viewers for Trump TV, which his son-in-law started hawking to potential investors.  Do you get it now?  You have no one to blame but yourselves for your willful failure and refusal to believe him.

I just can't with these fools, and this is why I find myself cussing up a storm when I see yet another article lamenting the economic woes of the average Drumpf voter.  Contrary to the narrative that is being peddled by corporate media, it wasn't just the economy, stupid!  

[ruby24]

1 minute ago, AntiBeeSpray said:

What the fuck? O_O 

Raise your hands if you think he shouldn't even be allowed into the inauguration.

Raising my hand. Someone needs to put a stop to this.

[ari333]

• 1 hour ago, ruby24 said:

  This fucking idiot just called Taiwan and now we're risking an international incident with China.

What did the fucker do now?

[ruby24]

Apparently he wants to build a hotel there. OH MY GOD.

This is insanity. Can you guys imagine if Obama was doing this shit right after he got elected?

[Rapunzel]

1 hour ago, ruby24 said:

This fucking idiot just called Taiwan and now we're risking an international incident with China.

I was just going to post about this - I got an alert just now from the BBC on my mobile about this and couldn't fucking believe it (the BBC is doing a better job covering all this bullshit with Trump than our own media is). Apparently, his contacting Taiwan also violates a US Policy that was put in place back in 1979. I haven't had time to read all the details yet, but what is this asshat doing???

Edited December 2, 2016 by Rapunzel

[ari333]

1 minute ago, ruby24 said:

Apparently he wants to build a hotel there. OH MY GOD.

This is insanity. Can you guys imagine if Obama was doing this shit right after he got elected?

Please tell me you are kidding me. WHAT THE FUCK?

This jackass (and that is being kind) should step down and go build his hotels. He never wanted this job and for sure is not qualified for it. **shudder** 

[callmebetty]

8 minutes ago, Rapunzel said:

I was just going to post about this - I got an alert just now from the BBC on my mobile about this and couldn't fucking believe it (the BBC is doing a better job covering all this bullshit with Trump than our own media is). Apparently, his contacting Taiwan also violates a US Policy that was put in place back in 1979. I haven't had time to read all the details yet, but what is this asshat doing???

I know right .  Nightly news about to come on I'm sure they won't talk about it .  or if they do it will be a shrug your shoulders kind of story.