S11.E14: Secrets, Lies And Vicki's New Guy

[yogi2014L]

6 minutes ago, nexxie said:

It does seem as if Kelly came on the show to get divorced, but she consistently looks at least as bad as her husband. 

She has to be. After all of her commentary her marriage is completely toast. I don't know how you come back from that

Boring ep. Can't wait for Ireland!

[nexxie]

2 minutes ago, yogi2014L said:

She has to be. After all of her commentary her marriage is completely toast. I don't know how you come back from that

Boring ep. Can't wait for Ireland!

I'm really looking forward to Ireland too - even though it looks like another case of "The Ugly Americans."

[biakbiak]

1 minute ago, nexxie said:

I'm really looking forward to Ireland too - even though it looks like another case of "The Ugly Americans."

As someone who lives in a place popular with drunken Irish tourists, they can also be obnoxious.

[mbaywife123]

Vicki and her new Maserati?..

How could anyone still want to give her any business? It's like a big FU as to where your monies are going.

NO THANKS!

Can she fit two baby car seats in there?

Edited October 4, 2016 by mbaywife123
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[Rina99]

Lol, what the hell at Tamra looking like she was possessed in that preview. As far as this episode: Shannon is a loon, Heather wore a perfect party dress, and I continue to wish Kelly would just go away.

It's amazing how fast Vicki reverted to being awful in every way once she was accepted back into the group. And by amazing, I mean completely predictable. 

[The Solution]

Remind me. Why did Shannon have to sell her house and all their furniture? Are they broke?

[Lady Grump]

Ever notice how people who want you to believe they're doing better than they're actually doing give a LOT of lip service to "being so busy"? I thought about that when watching Heather tonight.

[mbaywife123]

5 minutes ago, The Solution said:

Remind me. Why did Shannon have to sell her house and all their furniture? Are they broke?

My guess would be that the buyers added some extra $ to include some of the hard furnishings and appliances that they liked (not uncommon).

[biakbiak]

2 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

My guess would be that the buyers added some extra $ to include some of the hard furnishings and appliances that they liked (not uncommon).

Also since they were looking for a smaller house they would have had to end up storing or selling it anyway.

[breezy424]

New Poll question:  Who hasn't lost someone in Costco?  I've lost my whole family and everyone of them individually.  The sample stands are my first resort and then electronics.  Or  I break down and use that new thing that's been discussed called a cell phone.  Heck sometimes you can find them at the cellphone kiosk.  Geez, and Kelly thinks her husband is the one with a problem.

Yeah, Vicki's 'commercial' was all sorts of desperate.  And I loved the editing reminders.

Shannon has said that the buyers wanted all the furniture.  I don't think that was necessarily Shannon's plan but they got an good offer and went for it.  Except for the mattresses (I would assume) and few other things.  Only one daughter was getting a new mattress.

Tamra needs to reel in some of the crude remarks.

Meg was on WWHL and looked gorgeous. 

[motorcitymom65]

2 hours ago, mbaywife123 said:

Vicki just pulled a classic Kim Richards empty threat ( doesn't know anything but implies that she does) on Shannon. 

It's a little different, because Kim just implied she knew something, where Vicki flat out stated that Shannon had told her something.  Because it's Vicki, I wouldn't necessarily believe it because she is a lying liar who lies. It's Shannon's reaction that makes me wonder. She was beyond pissed at Vicki when she was saying it at the first party, but then at Heather's deal she is suddenly being friendly to her. More friendly than we've seen her be to Vicki all season - and this is after she threatens her with a big reveal. I would have been almost as pissed by that threat as I was about being brought into the cancer scam. I agreed with Heather - it was nice to see them getting along, but it kind of came out of the blue, and I suspect there is a reason that Shannon doesn't want to keep rocking the boat with Vicki. One thing for sure, we will hear more about it because they probably wouldn't have included that - including the reactions from Tamra and Meghan questioning Shannon about what she might have revealed to Vicki - if that was the end of it. 

[Thumper]

I've missed some things.  Are Shannon and her family living in NewHouse temporarily before moving elsewhere?  Or staying in NewHouse?  Renting or buying?  Thanks for info.

[mbaywife123]

1 minute ago, motorcitymom65 said:

It's a little different, because Kim just implied she knew something, where Vicki flat out stated that Shannon had told her something.  Because it's Vicki, I wouldn't necessarily believe it because she is a lying liar who lies. It's Shannon's reaction that makes me wonder. She was beyond pissed at Vicki when she was saying it at the first party, but then at Heather's deal she is suddenly being friendly to her. More friendly than we've seen her be to Vicki all season - and this is after she threatens her with a big reveal. I would have been almost as pissed by that threat as I was about being brought into the cancer scam. I agreed with Heather - it was nice to see them getting along, but it kind of came out of the blue, and I suspect there is a reason that Shannon doesn't want to keep rocking the boat with Vicki. One thing for sure, we will hear more about it because they probably wouldn't have included that - including the reactions from Tamra and Meghan questioning Shannon about what she might have revealed to Vicki - if that was the end of it. 

Well Shannon basically said to Vickis face let it rip potato chip and Vicki backed down.

Let's see what Vicki tries to put out there and then judge from there.

[Lady Grump]

Oh, and why would that man date Vicki? He's suspect for that fact alone.

[movingtargetgal]

Every time I see Kelly and her husband interact I become more concerned for her daughter's physical and emotional well being.  That child is growing up in a war zone.  Kelly is emotionally unstable and a mean drunk.  He is controlling and will not let her go. Her relationship with her husband is volatile and there is an undercurrent of violence that is under the surface.  It is my feeling that at times having the cameras there was what prevented physical violence from occurring.  I would not be shocked if this marriage came to a violent ending with one or both dead.  I know this statement is extreme but every time I watch these two I get a sick feeling in my gut that I just can't shake.  I hope my gut is wrong and Kelly and her husband can end this cycle for their daughter's sake.      

[biakbiak]

11 minutes ago, Thumper said:

I've missed some things.  Are Shannon and her family living in NewHouse temporarily before moving elsewhere?  Or staying in NewHouse?  Renting or buying?  Thanks for info.

Renting while looking for a new house.

[ivygirl]

I loved the little bit with Shannon and the family shopping for mattresses. I'm sure she really believes what she's saying about the toxins and such, but at the same time she seemed to be poking fun at herself (the talking heads where she's saying something like "thank goodness they have a mother who knows how to get the right mattress!"). 

I feel for Meghan and her depression.  It's really sad that her DOCTOR (and Jimmy, but who can tell with him) brushes her off. 

Because it can't be said enough: Vicki is horrible. Insensitive, lying, accusatory, rude, altogether awful.

[mbaywife123]

Just had the best laugh of the night.

mr.mbays male friends came over to watch football and one of them came into the living room while (upon rewatche) Kelly and Michael were on the beach with her foobs hanging under her bathing suit top and said "those aren't real and they are really rediculous looking".

[VedaPierce]

1 hour ago, biakbiak said:

As someone who lives in a place popular with drunken Irish tourists, they can also be obnoxious.

Every country has their "uglies" I don't think we've cornered the market. I can go on about some ugly Russians (I can do that because I'm Russian ;)

[VedaPierce]

Tamra is such a melodramatic ham, that reaction in the previews is ridic! I think people in the middle of wars have more subtle reactions. She's really such a phony dumbass.

[Hagosaurus]

2 hours ago, chick binewski said:

Also, is Meghan appearing in The Mikado? WTF was she wearing?

I'm pretty sure that was a maternity dress. To accommodate  that huge 9 week bump of hers.

"Guys, the baby doesn't like this conversation."  "Jimmy, the baby is making me sad." Gawd that "baby" is already an insufferable brat. Tell your baby to shut up. Can you imagine how opinionated it will be once it's born? I bet she'll be telling Jimmy in the next few weeks that the baby wants him to spend more time with them.

Vicki needs to learn the difference between a lie and a secret. She called Shannon a liar but she really was just threatening to spill the beans.

Edited October 4, 2016 by Hagosaurus

[biakbiak]

The decision to go to Ireland seemed so natural and spotaneous!

[ElDosEquis]

2 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

Well, hell!  If my husband wandered away from me when I was ordering a hot dog I'd want a divorce too!  If a friend did it, I'd end the friendship!  It's the only rational thing to do.

Costco hot dogs are worth any relationships. they are cheap too.

Edited October 4, 2016 by ElDosEquis

[UsernameFatigue]

Ugh. So Meghan's baby didn't like the talk about Vicki and Shannon's conflict? Well baby, you had better get used to it. It is your mother who told Shannon to go up to Vicki and start the conversation. In fact you had better get used to your mother instigating all kinds of unpleasant conversations, including whining to your father than he is never home. That he is spending time with his other children, as she did when he was not there at the start of Heather's party. That her life with your daddy is stressful. This is just the beginning, kid. But unlike you, I don't have to or want to listen to your whining mother. So when you are able to, please give her a swift kick for me. Thank you. 

I really don't understand where Andy and co. are going with this Kill All Cancer scam. That Vicki is involved with it is one thing, but that they are actively promoting it by filming scenes with her and the scammers is disgusting. I am only still watching because of Shannon, and because I want this to play out where the other Howives find out and rip into Vicki for us. Because how in the world could Andy and co. not know that this is as disgusting as Brooks. Maybe more so since Vicki is attempting to make money off this. If Vicki is back next year I am pretty sure I won't be.

The thing I don't understand about Michael and Kelly is why Michael stays? Kelly is no trophy wife, she has leeches in her brother and mother, an unpleasant personality, and is apparently a drunk with anger issues. Even with his own issues, he could do way better than Kelly. What gives? 

[ElDosEquis]

2 hours ago, Giselle said:

I've been with my boyfriend 5 years. We still haven't had our first fight, we do agree to disagree but without drama and there is no reason  to fool him. I love the guy. We both each think we're the "lucky one" and say as long as we both keep thinking that we're good.

No, don't just think it, believe it.

My parents evolved from having an argument, then five minutes later they were drinking coffee and eating cookies in the kitchen.

[Teddybear]

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Uber is getting some good advertising from this show.

So is Costco apparently!

Tamra looks like a rabid dog in the previews.  

Poor Jim, trying to keep the shrieking women from ruining his opening, to no avail.   

[Muffyn]

Okay, weinergate came off really odd to me. I thought she said Michael drove home without her, leaving her while she got a hotdog and diet coke.  Then it was that she left and he had to take an Uber home.  So she couldn’t find him at Costco and left him there while she sucked down her hotdog and soda?  And he’s the bad guy?  Yeah, she’s a keeper – ragey, foolish and drunk.  If everyone got divorced because they lost sight of their spouse at Costco we would have a 90% divorce rate.

She really is desperately trying to paint him in a bad light to help her in a divorce.  Why, once she tells the judge the hotdog story, I’m sure she’ll get everything she wants.  The cruelty!  The horror!  How will she survive?  (He does seem to be hideous but, then again, he married her so I am not expecting a great guy). 

Lately Vicki had not been looking so seriously terrible in her clothes.  Tonight, she’s back to her old hideous standards.  WTF was she wearing at the candle party?  Big pink straps sticking out of bedazzled grommets?  Where do you find something like that?  And then at Heather’s book party she’s got the girls ready to come out and play (oops, I threw up in my mouth a little).  And her new beau looks at her and thinks she looks good?  Perhaps he retired from the force because he lost his vision and hearing.  Otherwise I cannot imagine how he spends time with the Vickster.  

Stay classy, Tamra!  Stir shit and talk about yeast infections.   I expect nothing else from you. 

Tamra was great in her “How can I go to Ireland?  My big competition is coming up!!!!!”  If you like your contract and you want to get paid, you are getting your toned ass on that plane.  Besides we all know it’s been booked for a long time.  The pretense of these women getting together and suddenly deciding “I know what let’s do!  Let’s go to Ireland!  We can leave in two days!”  It’s like they’re the Little Rascals and someone said, “Let’s put on a show!”  Pull out the fake patchwork stage curtain and queue up Alfalfa to sing. 

[Petunia13]

I feel like Kelly's gas lighting her jackass husband so she and her shifty family can get their mitts on his money.

Or she's setting up her not guilty by reason of insanity defense now with her documented erratic behavior before she dispatches him. 

[yourmomiseasy]

3 hours ago, 100PercentPain said:

I cracked up at Vicki saying, "Whether or not Brooks had cancer isn't the point. I'm not hiding behind anything and if someone wants to shoot holes in me, I hope you never get cancer." Okay? If I'm ever diagnosed with cancer, I sure will be sorry I didn't believe Vicki Gunvalson that time she lied about her sleazy boyfriend having cancer and then starred a fake cancer charity on the heels of that. That'll show me?

Your entire post was great, but this part made me lose my shit.

2 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

I shouldn't laugh, but that flashback of Donn calling Icki a lying piece of dog shit made me happy.  The editors clearly hate her, not just because they show her acting like a lying piece of dog shit, but showing shots of her looking so awful.   She looks great in posed, curated shots in her talking heads, but live action tells another tale.  The woman is hideous.    I blame it on her awful personality.    She should invest not only in nipple covers, but in a head to toe shroud.   How much is she paying that decent looking guy to date her abominable snow monster ass.

I'm sure her being an asshole and shoving them around doesn't help her cause.

2 hours ago, nexxie said:

I'm really looking forward to Ireland too - even though it looks like another case of "The Ugly Americans."

Well, Vicki is going, so could it be anything but?

I loved Jimmy's "these bitches better not ruin my candle party" side eye.  I actually like Jimmy and his ain't nobody got time for this BS attitude.

Heather hasn't missed a chance to throw shade on the candle store.

I can't stand the way Kelly says Jolie.  Admittedly, it is her kid and she can say her kid's name however she wants, but it's still like nails on a chalkboard to me.

I'm sure Michael is no prize, at the very least he has bad judgement because he was dumb enough to marry Kelly, but watching her gaslight him isn't amusing to me.  She's trying so hard to make him look like the crazy, abusive, and drunken one, but it doesn't work since her antics have already been on display.

I enjoyed Vicki's commercial just because of the barely hidden contempt displayed by the production crew.

I like that Shannon can make fun of herself and realizes all her health stuff like the organic mattresses probably appears ridiculous to everyone else.  I also liked that she immediately called Vicki's bluff when Vicki tried to Kim Richards her.  

Vicki getting her shoe stuck in a crack and losing her nipple cover isn't as zany, charming, or cute as she thinks it is.  

[yourmomiseasy]

2 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I really don't understand where Andy and co. are going with this Kill All Cancer scam. That Vicki is involved with it is one thing, but that they are actively promoting it by filming scenes with her and the scammers is disgusting. I am only still watching because of Shannon, and because I want this to play out where the other Howives find out and rip into Vicki for us. Because how in the world could Andy and co. not know that this is as disgusting as Brooks. Maybe more so since Vicki is attempting to make money off this. If Vicki is back next year I am pretty sure I won't be.

I don't think that they are portraying it in a positive light.  I'm glad they are highlighting it so everyone can see what a ridiculous gross scammer she is.  I think they are doing a great job of including shady clips too.

[Ubiquitous]

8 hours ago, Carolina Girl said:

I was at Disneyworld for my niece's wedding over the summer.  When we wanted to find someone we used this crazy new invention called a cell phone.   

Bah! It's only a fad; it won't last for more than a couple years!

6 hours ago, Hagosaurus said:

Vicki needs to learn the difference between a lie and a secret. She called Shannon a liar but she really was just threatening to spill the beans.

I think you're onto something there! I couldn't figure out what the hell Vicki was going on about.

6 hours ago, biakbiak said:

The decision to go to Ireland seemed so natural and spotaneous!

I am tired of these "spontaneous" out-of-the-country trips! Tamra pretending to worry about being able to attend was b.s., since we already know she managed to attend it.

Vicki getting that Maserati reminded me of David Letterman's running segment with the NBC bookmobile when the librarian told him that someone had stolen the money they raised for charity and how Gus (the gruff but lovable bookmobile driver) was taking the news hard and would often take long drives in his new sports car.

[poeticlicensed]

I have never had IVF but I kind of thought the idea was to put in a few embryos and see if any of them implanted. Why is Megan upset? Did she expect they all would implant? Didn't her doctor explain to her that it's not 100%? OTOH Jimmy didn't seem upset at all. And I loved how he tried to hustle the fighting bitches out. If things keep going down this road "the baby doesn't like fighting" and what not, I will be loving Jimmy by the time Megan gives birth. 

I am already as sick of Shannon we have no furniture as I am of heather I am so tired designing my mall house. First off all Shannon doesn't work and her kids are not babies so she can mosey down to ye old furniture store and buy a houseful of furniture in a day. Or better yet rent furniture for a while. She is besties with Jeff lewis, just call him. Or hire a designer. I mean seriously am I supposed to feel bad for shannon? 

Tamra can shut up anytime. 

Ireland because megan  is part Irish? And she's pregnant? OK then. 

Kelly and Michael are mean drunks. I predict that if they don't divorce for good someone is going to end up arrested for DV or worse. Is this all because Kelly is staying for money? Or is it that two dysfunctional people have found each other? I seriously don't get it. 

Edited October 4, 2016 by poeticlicensed

[Mu Shu]

7 hours ago, Thumper said:

I've missed some things.  Are Shannon and her family living in NewHouse temporarily before moving elsewhere?  Or staying in NewHouse?  Renting or buying?  Thanks for info.

Though new house is "dated" it's far more modern than fussy "old house".   I'm guessing it's temporary while they build. New old house that looks just like the last one.  Shannon has very dated ideas in decor and personal style, but it's part of her charm.

[Barb23]

7 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

Costco actually has great dogs.  About one a month my co worker has her husband drop us off some on his way to work.  We love Cistco hot dog day.   Uh, couldn't Kelly text or call him?  Isn't that what you do when you go shopping and lose track of the person you came with?   I have been doing this wrong for awhile now. Bone I know to abandon them to Uber.

Oh, Costco hot dog day sounds great!! Lucky you!!

7 hours ago, Thumper said:

Tamra goes to the opening of a CANDLE store wearing a top cut down to her navel?  Her breasts looked weird.

Also did not need to see Kelly's mesh breast exposure at the book party.  Is that a CA thing?

Since the episode wasn't great, I paid more attention to their clothes than I usually do.  Tamra's boobs were kind of wonky at the candle party & Vicks dress was horrendous with those pink straps.  I loved Heather's book party dress.  Still trying to figure out Megan's party dress - it had to take her 10 minutes to get her arms in those sleeves. I agree it had to be some type of  maternity dress.  I wish Kelly would wear a proper fitting bikini top.  Bad enough with all the frontal cleavages, she has to submit us to the side boobs, which isn't a good look. She had the same look last week at the spa.

I thought Shannon was funny making fun of herself about knowing everything about mattresses.

Why was Kelly's brother at Heather's party? I was surprised to see him there & was waiting to see Kelly's mom lurking in the shadows.  Is he a good friend of the Dubrows?   Maybe he was Kelly's Uber driver?  I thought Michael was set up at the party too.  It did look like the chopstick got away from him (I thought I saw rice fly up)  & he didn't seem drunk & out of control to me. 

It was funny to see how the Ireland trip came about & wasn't it amazing that everyone could drop everything in their lives & go?  My sister has more trouble getting her friends to decide on a date for a girl's weekend away than this group did planning a trip to Ireland. But I am looking forward once again to seeing these ladies make fools of themselves.

[VedaPierce]

I think Meghan was attempting to dress in a 'chinese style' outfit. The party seemed to have a chinese theme with the chopsticks and mini chinese take out containers. Her earrings touched on that theme as well. Meghan always tries to come in costume. The baby picked it out. 

Is the moochy brother going to be popping up in Ireland too? What a camera hog! 

[Lizzing]

So is Meghan auditioning for the next season of "Celebrity" Worst Cooks in America?  She can't do worse than Kenya did.

I'm going to remain convinced that Michael bent to pick up the dropped chopstick, not dropping barware,  until I see visual proof otherwise.  That glass breaking sound effect was straight off my sister's Casio keyboard from the 80s.

Shannon totally made nice at Heather's party with Vicki for the Ireland trip set up.  There had to be some kind of production guidance like, "Play nice for a little while so you all can go on the big trip, otherwise you sorry lot will look stupider than the NY women at a sad casino."

The part about next week that I'm most intrigued about is Shannon seemingly being the one to console Kelly as she storms out of the bar(?) after Tamra goes off on her re: Heather's real estate dealings (while Kelly is wailing on the street that it's no wonder Tamra's daughter doesn't talk to her).  Can't figure out why Shannon would be the one to do that, as it seems a Vicki job.  Well, that and the scenery porn.

[Bluedog100]

HAGOSAURIS.... (sorry if I didn't spell that right) with my first pregnancy I was guilty about wearing maternity clothes too soon, too. And probably a little over-dramatic with making sure people knew I was pregnant, as well. "Oh no....I CAN'T have a glass of wine, but thank you! wink wink."  I think it's just the initial excitement. But then you get fat and the Texas heat kicks in and then you just want the damn thing over with!!

[FlyingEgret]

5 hours ago, yourmomiseasy said:

Vicki getting her shoe stuck in a crack and losing her nipple cover isn't as zany, charming, or cute as she thinks it is.  

You forgot to mention that said stuck shoe was PRADA - between that and the Maserati, it really looked like Vicki is getting a kickback from the cancer insurance scam

[ghoulina]

Well, I, for one, am very glad to see that Jimmy's dream of becoming a candle purveyor came true. 

Not so glad to see? Shannon's weird truce with Vicki. All along, Shannon has been the rock. The one person to not cave. I admired her for it. I'd never talk to that scumbag liar again, if it were me. And at the candle party, Vicki is calling her a liar and she's running around town hinting that she has some dirt on Shannon...then next week Shannon is laughing and joking with her? To me, that reeks of fear. Vicki DOES have something on Shannon and Shannon now realizes how serious she is about letting it out. So she's going to drop the hostility and pretend to be friendly, to try and keep Vicki quiet. 

I'm just really not sure how I feel about that. I don't want Vicki eased back into the group! I want her iced out! But if I felt I had to appease someone to protect my family....I don't know....

And who is this Steve guy? He HAS to have something wrong with him. To date Vicki. He was probably a dirty cop that never got caught. 

Well, Kelly found a way to make yet ANOTHER salad tossing joke. She's real original, ain't she? And I love how she's running around acting SO mortified by her husband's drunk behavior, when she has gotten shit faced and made a fool out of herself on several occasions! We're not dumb, Kelly. You can try to make him the villain all you want, but you're just as bad. 

And, really - you left your husband at Costco because he wouldn't wait with you for a hot dog and a Coke? Seriously? Maybe he just wanted to get the shopping done! When she stated the story, I thought she was going to say, "I left him at Costco because he hit me". Or, "I left him at Costco because I saw him flirting with some other woman". Or, "I left him at Costco because he screamed at me in front of the entire store". But no. She left him at Costco because he wouldn't hang out while she got a fucking hot dog. This woman. 

[bosawks]

I thought losing someone at Costco was part of the membership hazing ritual?

[LIMOM]

Dang, how does Vicky manage to bag a nice looking man?

Is he the same dude that lied about being Hispanic in order to get votes? 

As far as the Maserati not really impressed. It is an 80k car that she leases..

Meagan was brave to address her depression publicly and matter of factly. Kudos.

[ghoulina]

6 minutes ago, LIMOM said:

Dang, how does Vicky manage to bag a nice looking man?

Is he the same dude that lied about being Hispanic in order to get votes? 

You know, I think it is. He included "Chavez" as his middle name or something. 

[CrinkleCutCat]

Kelly and her husband need the dysfunctional drama...that's why they are still together. You can see her goading him all the time because she wants a reaction aka attention!!! Sadly, the drinking and exaggerated drama are more important to them than providing their daughter with two seperate, yet drama free, homes. Family cycles of pain are probably at play here.... someone has to break the cycle.

Michael must have some major dirt/evidence on Kelly that makes her so sure he would get full custody of Jolie. I agree she is using this show to get her own evidence against him. It probably isn't her main reason for being on the show, but it's a major opportunity for her to exploit.

Kelly's disclosure that her parents were in a loveless marriage who only stayed together for their children plays a significant part in the relationship she is participating in, although she didn't say her parents had conflict. 

Psychologically, Kelly is interesting to observe: she says she wants to stay in her marriage (with the financial security and "being a real family"), yet her behaviour constantly pushes them toward conflict and the real risk of divorce. On the surface it looks like hypocrisy, but it's not. It's an internal dilemma that she is obviously unaware of. Get thee to a psychologist girl! Stat!

edit... or a psychiatrist...they can prescribe meds!

Edited October 4, 2016 by CrinkleCutCat
The opportunity to add more of my obviously wise expertise!

[tabloidlover]

Going to leave the Vulture recap link here  

  http://www.vulture.com/2016/10/real-housewives-of-orange-county-recap-season-11-episode-14.html

Brian Moylan sums up Kelly's messy ass pretty well here, although I'm sad he didn't address the horror of the Costco Hot Dog Drama...

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Ugh, I guess we have to talk about Live With Kelly and Michael 2: This Time It's Personal and what a gross drunk Michael is. Now if Kelly Dodd, a squashed Dixie cup whose Jell-O shot has already been slurped, is calling you a drunk, then your shit is busted. Michael embarrasses himself at the book party, hitting on all of those young blonde women who look like they are competing to be America's Next Top Fox News Harassment Victim, but has Kelly seen herself when she's drunk? It's not that much prettier.

[Sai]

8 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

It's a little different, because Kim just implied she knew something, where Vicki flat out stated that Shannon had told her something.  Because it's Vicki, I wouldn't necessarily believe it because she is a lying liar who lies. It's Shannon's reaction that makes me wonder. She was beyond pissed at Vicki when she was saying it at the first party, but then at Heather's deal she is suddenly being friendly to her. More friendly than we've seen her be to Vicki all season - and this is after she threatens her with a big reveal. I would have been almost as pissed by that threat as I was about being brought into the cancer scam. I agreed with Heather - it was nice to see them getting along, but it kind of came out of the blue, and I suspect there is a reason that Shannon doesn't want to keep rocking the boat with Vicki. One thing for sure, we will hear more about it because they probably wouldn't have included that - including the reactions from Tamra and Meghan questioning Shannon about what she might have revealed to Vicki - if that was the end of it. 

I kinda believe Vicki.  Shannon changed her tune real quick once Vicki revealed she had a secret that Shannon had told her.  I think Heather believes Vicki also but Heather said she didn't want to know the secret, well I DO!!  Tell me!!  It must be something juicy.

[Ubiquitous]

43 minutes ago, FlyingEgret said:

You forgot to mention that said stuck shoe was PRADA - between that and the Maserati, it really looked like Vicki is getting a kickback from the cancer insurance scam

What was the deal with Vicki's nipple-cover? That dress she was wearing didn't look like there was any danger of exposing her nipples, so why did she have them? Was it to hide the hickee?

[Jezebel97]

6 minutes ago, Ubiquitous said:

What was the deal with Vicki's nipple-cover? That dress she was wearing didn't look like there was any danger of exposing her nipples, so why did she have them? Was it to hide the hickee?

Vickie, nipple & hickey are not words to be uttered together again ;P

[FlyingEgret]

6 minutes ago, Ubiquitous said:

What was the deal with Vicki's nipple-cover? That dress she was wearing didn't look like there was any danger of exposing her nipples, so why did she have them? Was it to hide the hickee?

And why didn't she name the brand?  Must not have been Gucci or Chanel...

[Hagosaurus]

7 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

That he is spending time with his other children, as she did when he was not there at the start of Heather's party.

Yeah, that #coolstepmom shit ended pretty quick. She did seem irked that he was spending time with Haley in the desert. I'm wondering if "Haley" is his code name for his new 24 year old bimbo side piece. I wouldn't put it past him especially since he is so dismissive of her.

I've never paid much attention to Megan before these last few episodes. She just always came across to me like an immature, self absorbed nitwit and I couldn't have cared less if she was on the show or not. Not now! She made the show for me last night. She is just so snark worthy these days. I swear that bitch is one season away from demanding casseroles.

[100PercentPain]

42 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

And who is this Steve guy? He HAS to have something wrong with him. To date Vicki. He was probably a dirty cop that never got caught. 

Funny you say that.

http://www.ocweekly.com/news/an-open-letter-to-real-housewife-vicki-gunvalson-about-her-new-dirty-cop-boyfriend-7298653