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It sickens me that they are asking for donations for while they are home. I mean...I would be pissed if I had donated, knowing my money was going to that!!! Some of the leg humpers are so stupid, though. On the fb page, they are defending this to the death, saying they don't make enough from TLC, who are we to judge, etc. 

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On 5/9/2017 at 11:04 AM, BitterApple said:

Excellent point. Even if they were only getting 20 or 30k for a birth episode, that's plenty of money for them to live off of considering they have no bills. Or Derrick could, you know, get a JOB. I'm sure Boob has plenty of connections in the area to help Derrick get a temporary gig. I've never seen such a lazy, spoiled, entitled couple in my entire life. And considering the orphans look cleaner and better groomed than Izzy, Jill might want to watch the kind of shade she throws around. Half the time the Duggars look like they're crawling with fleas.

They really are the most lazy, spoiled, entitled couple ever!!! I'd put them in a different league from Ben and jessa, because those two are basically carrying the show. Even though I think they need real jobs because employment history will look good on their resumes in a few years, they are on every episode of Counting On, usually as the only ones worth watching. Plus, Ben is doing online college in hopes of being employed someday. I still think they're being kind of dumb, but when push comes to shove, they have a much better chance of surviving than the lazy Dullards. 

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On 5/9/2017 at 6:04 PM, BitterApple said:

Excellent point. Even if they were only getting 20 or 30k for a birth episode, that's plenty of money for them to live off of considering they have no bills. Or Derrick could, you know, get a JOB. I'm sure Boob has plenty of connections in the area to help Derrick get a temporary gig. I've never seen such a lazy, spoiled, entitled couple in my entire life. And considering the orphans look cleaner and better groomed than Izzy, Jill might want to watch the kind of shade she throws around. Half the time the Duggars look like they're crawling with fleas.

Or, they could just stay put in their free house in Guatemala, where the average annual income is $1,619 in US dollars.

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Thanks @floridamom. As a former CPS SW if I ever encounter their worthless asses, I won't have a problem letting them know. There are so many ways of saying fuck you, without using those two words.  The young lady who talked to Mullet at the bridal shop did an amazing job.

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1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Regarding the donation; do they actually have a non profit? I mean a real one? If so, I would think including the fact the donations are also for when they return to Arkansas, to have their baby, would be illegal?

They certainly have some legally suspect stuff. But the IRS doesn't have the resources to go after very small operators, so people tend to get away with stuff like that.

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9 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

They certainly have some legally suspect stuff. But the IRS doesn't have the resources to go after very small operators, so people tend to get away with stuff like that.

The little guys and the big guys seem to get away with lining their own pockets with tax-free donations.  Benny Hinn, supposed faith healer, has a personal net worth of $52 million, Billy Graham = $25 Million, Kenneth Copeland = $26.5 Million, Creflo Dollar = $27 Million, Bishop TD Jakes = $150.2 Million.  Not to mention all of the other perks like free mansions, autos, planes, vacations, etc.

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58 minutes ago, floridamom said:

SMama, your post was well said and oh, so correct. Someone should say this to their faces...including Jim Bob and Michelle's faces.

So, Jill and Derick live in the SOS 'hospitality house' for the REAL missionaries in the area? It looks to me like they're acting as host and hostess to those

who are doing the 'real work' out there. Their jobs are to be social, and Derick gets to preach once a week for a few minutes....in a language he doesn't know how to speak? They are such frauds if you ask me.

I don't think that's quite it, actually.

SOS is pretty much all "hospitality" missioning. Notice that they talk only about "evangelizing" and "edifying." In that whole spiel about the house, they mention "physical needs" only once and then just in passing -- and from reading the rest of the SOS stuff I expect that's mainly a cover so that people like us can imagine them digging wells or improving village schools or something. That talk is mainly window dressing as far as I can tell.

The fact is that it's a talk ministry -- they evangelize and edify. I'm pretty sure that most of the SOS "missionaries" do stuff fairly similar to what the Dullards do . So in terms of this "mission," the Dullards are as "real" as missionaries get. They hang out with people, jawbone them and occasionally baptize one. But, most importantly -- although SOS doesn't say much about this, for obvious reasons -- act as tour guides for the U.S. missioncationers who come down to pretend they're being missionaries but really to hang out and go to the beach. It isn't just the Dullards who are doing a hang-out "mission" while other people are off somewhere running clinics and building sewage systems. The SOS mission as a whole is mainly people hanging out and "giving people the good news about [the correct] Jesus."

5 minutes ago, Mollie said:

The little guys and the big guys seem to get away with lining their own pockets with tax-free donations.  Benny Hinn, supposed faith healer, has a personal net worth of $52 million, Billy Graham = $25 Million, Kenneth Copeland = $26.5 Million, Creflo Dollar = $27 Million, Bishop TD Jakes = $150.2 Million.  Not to mention all of the other perks like free mansions, autos, planes, vacations, etc.

Yep. The nonprofit section of the IRS has always been underfunded. Plus they get a lot of pushback when they go after a "Christian" of any variety. People are devoted to those bloodsuckers you mention and the government takes a lot of heat if they interfere with them. So I'm not surprised that they often consider it a better use of limited funds to go after corruption that doesn't get quite so many (well-meaning but deluded) people coming after them with pitchforks -- that's just a waste of resources.

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@Mollie I'm pretty sure that Hospitality House is located in El Salvador. SOS's site notes that the Guatemalan ministry is still in its infancy and that they are still looking for missionaries to work there. 

http://www.inquisitr.com/2999771/s-o-s-ministries-paid-20000-for-jill-dillards-el-salvador-hospitality-home-request-more-money-for-unfunded-projects/

http://www.soshope.org/ministries/central-america/

Jill has mentioned La Esperanza in the past. I think that's where she does her women's and children's "ministry" work. 

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7 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

@Mollie I'm pretty sure that Hospitality House is located in El Salvador. SOS's site notes that the Guatemalan ministry is still in its infancy and that they are still looking for missionaries to work there. 

http://www.inquisitr.com/2999771/s-o-s-ministries-paid-20000-for-jill-dillards-el-salvador-hospitality-home-request-more-money-for-unfunded-projects/

http://www.soshope.org/ministries/central-america/

Jill has mentioned La Esperanza in the past. I think that's where she does her women's and children's "ministry" work. 

"Guatemala – A ministry that is in its infant stage.  The El Salvador/US church led mission is now seeking to appoint a missionary for a new work."  This was a notice from SOS before they hired Jill and Derick.  It's been on that website for at least three years and they have never updated it.

The tours the Dillards lead for SOS also visit the SOS facility in El Salvador and the one in Honduras.  The three countries share common borders and only require one visa to visit all three.  The Dillards lead people to believe that they travel all over Central America doing missionary work.  The truth is, they only visit these three countries and the SOS facilities in them.

The La Esperanza hospitality house compound in El Salvador that they visit is completely different from their house in Guatemala. The SOS director for all of the Central American programs, Alex Lara (and his family), lives in the organization's house in El Salvador.  See the pictures below.  The hospitality house in Honduras is here: IMG_2144.jpg 

 

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3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Regarding the donation; do they actually have a non profit? I mean a real one? If so, I would think including the fact the donations are also for when they return to Arkansas, to have their baby, would be illegal?

I can't imagine how one would disprove evangelizing. I think it's a gray area that is cavernous.  

"We were back in the States because we were this close to converting the Starbucks Barista, and then my water broke." 

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1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

I can't imagine how one would disprove evangelizing. I think it's a gray area that is cavernous.  

"We were back in the States because we were this close to converting the Starbucks Barista, and then my water broke." 

All they'd have to do is say they returned to the US because Jill's pregnancy was high risk and they wanted to be close to their medical care providers. But, as mentioned above, they are small fish in a very big, very murky, pond.  The IRS isn't going to go after them and they know it.

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1 hour ago, doodlebug said:

All they'd have to do is say they returned to the US because Jill's pregnancy was high risk and they wanted to be close to their medical care providers. But, as mentioned above, they are small fish in a very big, very murky, pond.  The IRS isn't going to go after them and they know it.

"Please continue to pray with us for:

-Continued financial support as we still need to raise additional support for the rest of our time here on the field as well as the time we will be home surrounding the birth of our second little boy due in early July. Thank you to those of you who are supporting us already! (Donate online: www.dillardfamily.com)"

Jill's & Derick's lack of pride, humility and awareness is beyond comprehension.

I agree the IRS or any governing body is not going to take the time to look at the Dillards.

If Jill is seeing the midwife who has had her credentials suspended, saying they wanted to deliver with her for a high risk pregnancy would be a reach. And Dr Jill has the same ability to recognize and assess her pregnancy as high risk as the ability to recognize and assess whether an intruder is a shower rack.

I often find myself saying - you can't make this shit up.

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I am never inclined to give the Dillards the benefit of the doubt but I do find myself wondering, as I read the quotes from her latest post, if what she means is to raise money for the remainder of their time in the field and to continue to support the work in Danger America while they are gone. I mean, it's not like Jill is the most articulate writer...or talker...or thinker...in the world, or even in her own dim family, so her writing something that can be misconstrued is well within the realm of possibility. I'm just sitting here wondering if that's what she meant - that they are raising funds for the remainder of their time there AND for the work to continue (via others) while they are back in the U.S. The amount of money they think it takes for the type of talk missionary they do remains absurd, but she may not actually be asking for people to donate to her U.S.-based living.

Of course, she comes from a family of grifters so certainly the more obvious interpretation could absolutely be true. Just found myself wondering...

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Someone cited this on Pickles' comments:

 

1 Timothy 5:8 King James Version (KJV)

But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

 

Dang Dullards, you waste of skin, KJV loving hypocrites. Derick, GET A JOB! 

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6 hours ago, Mollie said:

The little guys and the big guys seem to get away with lining their own pockets with tax-free donations.  Benny Hinn, supposed faith healer, has a personal net worth of $52 million, Billy Graham = $25 Million, Kenneth Copeland = $26.5 Million, Creflo Dollar = $27 Million, Bishop TD Jakes = $150.2 Million.  Not to mention all of the other perks like free mansions, autos, planes, vacations, etc.

Big $$, but at least the ones with big-boy ministries are assessed big-boy costs and plow them back in at decent amounts (for example, a 1962 Chicago Times article pegged the cost of that year's Chicago Graham crusade at half a million).  Plus doesn't the net worth include the likes of royalties off books they publish, and maybe syndication fees if their sermons are taped and broadcasted weekly in some markets like Dollar's?  Those are things which cost the referenced individuals "work" and some brain-taxing, the Dulls are not in the same category.  

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My son & his architecture class did more working for Habitat for Humanity over a Spring Break week years ago than these two idiots have done their whole time in CA.  They helped in the building of two houses in North Carolina which were almost completed when they left. 

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4 hours ago, Barb23 said:

My son & his architecture class did more working for Habitat for Humanity over a Spring Break week years ago than these two idiots have done their whole time in CA.  They helped in the building of two houses in North Carolina which were almost completed when they left. 

The kids at my local church do something similar where they go on trips to poor rural areas and help with home repairs/improvements. They also hold weekend car washes to raise money, so if teenagers can stand in the sun all day washing cars, Derick Dullard can get off his lazy ass and find a temporary job. Jill has plenty of help with the kids, there's no excuse for him to be coasting on love offerings. 

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18 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

The kids at my local church do something similar where they go on trips to poor rural areas and help with home repairs/improvements. They also hold weekend car washes to raise money, so if teenagers can stand in the sun all day washing cars, Derick Dullard can get off his lazy ass and find a temporary job. Jill has plenty of help with the kids, there's no excuse for him to be coasting on love offerings. 

For the most part, I can't stand the Kardashians, but they surely top the Duggars when it comes to helping people.  Kylie Jenner, 19-years-old, developed a lip gloss color to donate 100% of the proceeds to charity.  On a trip to Peru, she was touched by so many little children with cleft palates and she wanted to provide the life-transforming surgeries to change their appearances and their futures.

She just donated $1 million dollars, which funded 600 surgeries.  She didn't do this in the name of religion or for publicity for herself.  She doesn't need more publicity.  She did it simply to help improve the lives of poor children. Jill and Derick should be embarrassed before God and man for the little that they do to help in Central America or in Arkansas. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4495688/Kylie-Jenner-visits-babies-suffering-cleft-palates.html

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Try seasonal allergies on top of chest pain/tightness, asthma type symptoms, sinuses, headaches, jaw pain, earaches from tmj, aches and pain, changing thyroid hormone levels, and dry eyes/eye pain in hot and cold weather. I mean seasonal allergies in an area where the citizens live without good quality health care, and she whines about allergies. Ignorance is blissful, and these two are probably the most blissful people in Central America.

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I find it so remarkable that she has is so tone deaf. She has no idea, and I mean no idea, how to fundraise or tell a compelling story about being a missionary. It speaks volumes to how incredibly sheltered she is. I don't know that sheltered is even the right word, it's more that she grew up in such a self-serving household. Usually through speakers at church and blurbs in the church bulletin, she would have picked up some idea for how to fundraise, but that didn't happen at their church in their living room. Surely they are on the mailing list of SOS ministries and the like, and it seems she never read a newsletter or direct appeal. 

Of all the Duggar hypocrises, second on my list is their lack of charity. It's shameful.

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Jill's and Derrick's "missionary" stories are sounding more and more like Bin's stupid sister's journal post from when they went on the mission trip to El Salvador. 

It boils my blood that their are living like rich people in this poor country and still asking for donations to live off for doing absolutely nothing. Hell is waiting for them.

 

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I kind of gave Jessica Seewald a pass because I don't think my teenage niece would've reacted any differently. I think the Duggars sell these mission trips as cushy, "glamping" style excursions and Jessica was probably horrified when she was the communal cinderblock sleeping quarters and armed men guarding the compound. 

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12 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I kind of gave Jessica Seewald a pass because I don't think my teenage niece would've reacted any differently. I think the Duggars sell these mission trips as cushy, "glamping" style excursions and Jessica was probably horrified when she was the communal cinderblock sleeping quarters and armed men guarding the compound. 

She was acting like a total brat. I can't believe her parents even allowed that post on their website and it really goes to show what kind of people they are. 

As teenagers my older sisters were teaching Sunday school and went on short mission trips to Tijuana to help people put tin roofs on their houses. If they would have talked crap about the locals like that the nuns would have scolded them or taught them a lesson about appreciating what they had.

Being a teen is no excuse but I guess I'll put the blame on her parents for being terrible people.  Jill should know better, since she's an adult and Derrick's has worked in the field, which makes it incredibly disappointing. The locals deserve better.

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2 hours ago, Marshmallow Mollie said:

I find it so remarkable that she has is so tone deaf. She has no idea, and I mean no idea, how to fundraise or tell a compelling story about being a missionary. It speaks volumes to how incredibly sheltered she is. I don't know that sheltered is even the right word, it's more that she grew up in such a self-serving household. Usually through speakers at church and blurbs in the church bulletin, she would have picked up some idea for how to fundraise, but that didn't happen at their church in their living room. Surely they are on the mailing list of SOS ministries and the like, and it seems she never read a newsletter or direct appeal. 

Jill is definitely Jim Bob's daughter.  She seems to have picked up as admirable most or all of his more despicable traits from grifting to being overly narcissistic.  Tone deaf is surely high on the list. 

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8 hours ago, Barb23 said:

My son & his architecture class did more working for Habitat for Humanity over a Spring Break week years ago than these two idiots have done their whole time in CA.  They helped in the building of two houses in North Carolina which were almost completed when they left. 

Yes, but the Duggars and fundies of their ilk don't consider anything but proseletyzing to be mission work.  As long as they are preaching about their version of Jesus to people, they don't consider it their responsibility or goal to do anything to help improve their lives here on earth.  They actually feel it is a waste of time and resources to do constructive projects when the only reason to be there is to force others to join up with their faith.  See, all that stuff Jesus said about feeding the hungry and clothing the poor and caring for the sick is not important if you can't make those poor sick hungry people believe in your god.

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5 hours ago, MaryAnneSpier said:

Jill has asked for prayers for sickness... seasonal allergies.  Sheesh.  Trying to make it sound like they are truly in harm's way in order to minister to the unclean Catholics.

Maybe the Dillards are allergic to "the aroma of sweaty kids and stinky feet." 

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3 hours ago, Rabbittron said:

I bet you that if they have a perfect baby they will say that Zirka only affects the heartless Godless hevens.

We had a horrible weather event in our area a while back. My family and I lost just about everything. I was going threw a Dunkin Donut drive-thru a couple of days after the storm with just about everything we could save packed into the back of my car - debris and all. The employees had no idea my house was hit and they also didn't realize they hadn't shut off their the mics. There were saying something to the effect of the tornado hitting some neighborhoods and not others and maybe people should rethink their faiths.

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1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

We had a horrible weather event in our area a while back. My family and I lost just about everything. I was going threw a Dunkin Donut drive-thru a couple of days after the storm with just about everything we could save packed into the back of my car - debris and all. The employees had know idea my house was hit and they also didn't realize they hadn't shut off their the mics. There were saying something to the effect of the tornado hitting some neighborhoods and not others and maybe people should rethink their faiths.

I am so sorry to hear this and I am sickened by that attitude. 

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8 hours ago, Mollie said:

For the most part, I can't stand the Kardashians, but they surely top the Duggars when it comes to helping people.  Kylie Jenner, 19-years-old, developed a lip gloss color to donate 100% of the proceeds to charity.  On a trip to Peru, she was touched by so many little children with cleft palates and she wanted to provide the life-transforming surgeries to change their appearances and their futures.

She just donated $1 million dollars, which funded 600 surgeries.  She didn't do this in the name of religion or for publicity for herself.  She doesn't need more publicity.  She did it simply to help improve the lives of poor children. Jill and Derick should be embarrassed before God and man for the little that they do to help in Central America or in Arkansas. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4495688/Kylie-Jenner-visits-babies-suffering-cleft-palates.html

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KYLIE JENNER donated a million bucks to surgeries for kids with cleft palate? She's never been my favorite, but wow. My opinion of her just changed. I will be looking for a teen to donate some of that lip gloss color to as well...

Hey Triple D and Jilly Muffin, it must be embarrassing to get shown up by a "sinner" like Ms. Jenner.

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On 5/10/2017 at 0:17 PM, Marigold said:

The Duggars truly feel they are an example to others by showing their Christian family on TV. 

Oh, and they "encourage" others. 

Actually they discourage me. Bigly. 

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I was just perusing the Duggars FB and I noticed all the comments questioning why the Dullards need donations for their time in the States have been deleted, but the comments telling Catholics they're not true Christians are still standing. Big surprise, right?

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36 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I was just perusing the Duggars FB and I noticed all the comments questioning why the Dullards need donations for their time in the States have been deleted, but the comments telling Catholics they're not true Christians are still standing. Big surprise, right?

Lovely.

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2 hours ago, BitterApple said:

I was just perusing the Duggars FB and I noticed all the comments questioning why the Dullards need donations for their time in the States have been deleted, but the comments telling Catholics they're not true Christians are still standing. Big surprise, right?

Sounds about right.

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One more thing, I forgot to mention. An astute observer on Duggar Official noticed how Jill and Derelict asked for prayers for money and allergy relief before they requested prayers for the woman needing brain surgery. I guess stuffy noses and watery eyes trump life threatening illness.

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9 hours ago, BitterApple said:

I was just perusing the Duggars FB and I noticed all the comments questioning why the Dullards need donations for their time in the States have been deleted, but the comments telling Catholics they're not true Christians are still standing. Big surprise, right?

Mother Theresa needs to come back and kick their ass..

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Those two are on my hate list and near the top. Next to Josh and Meeeeeeeeeeechelle. Crikey, what is wrong with them?? Dumb and dull is one thing, delusional scroungers another entirely.

Get a fucking job, Derick! Stop being a lazy grifting loser, and start teaching Jill to woman up, grow up and deal with life.

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This is a post by Derick from quite some time ago. This

. Earlier this year God brought about an opportunity much earlier than either of us was expecting. Several months ago a new opportunity arose for us to serve God on the mission field. Before us we had a choice to make that would undoubtedly change the trajectory of our lives forever.

has me stumped. If it's what God wants, and they base everything on such a thing, why would a decision need to be made? Oh, and DONATE !

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https://www.dillardfamily.com/ministry

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16 hours ago, BitterApple said:

One more thing, I forgot to mention. An astute observer on Duggar Official noticed how Jill and Derelict asked for prayers for money and allergy relief before they requested prayers for the woman needing brain surgery. I guess stuffy noses and watery eyes trump life threatening illness.

Well, in the immortal words of Mel Brooks -- "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die." 

I think we're all pretty much like this when we're being spontaneous. Just human nature.

Thing is, your principles, your moral code, your reason, the empathy you try to cultivate are supposed to make you rethink the gut reaction and reorder the priorities before you act on them or announce them. But the Duggars and Duggar adjacents are ignorant infantile dumb-asses who I expect think that their "hearts for the Lord" are speaking through every spontaneous thing that comes out of them. ..... They're so convinced of their faith that I'm pretty sure they all believe that the natural selfishness they spout is actually the Lord speaking through them. I'm sure they don't ever stop to examine stuff like this..... It's the same reason that the million horrible ironies of Duggar life are lost on them. 

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As I noted in a post on another thread, they are completely tone deaf and can't read a room to save their lives, unless that room is filled with the "right" kind of Christians. Preaching hell and damnation and passing out squares of banana bread once a week won't convert anyone. But it helps them remain gainfully unemployedthat much longer. 

As if Jill could even pass the exam to become a real licensed midwife. Derick could maybe land another entry-level accountant position, but it's evident that he doesn't want a 9-5 job. He barely wants a 9-10 gig.

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