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Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

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Jynnan tonnix

Jynnan tonnix

2 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

Me too.  It makes me almost panic to think about it.  It truly is torture for some of us and I wish people would understand that.  I HATE it.

Yup...My kids all enjoyed a mild tickling - they would ask for more. My daughter, who evidently must not be hugely ticklish to start with used to like to see how long she could steel herself against reacting. But if they ever started to tickle me in return, I had to immediately shut down the game. My reaction toward being tickled is so immediate and uncontrolled that I was honestly afraid I'd be capable of doing them damage in self-defense...It's really bizarre that something basically harmless can cause such a violent reaction. I wonder what's behind that...

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Wait, she needed a friend to tell her taking kids outside to play is something she could do to tire the kids out? Seriously?

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If my parents supported the person who sexually molested me as a child AND also profited from a show that portrayed them as God fearing, loving, better than everyone else parents AND then shunned ME? 

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If I didn’t know any better, and I bothered to think about it, I’d look at that picture and see, from left to right: - Polyamorous group of 4 - Straight couple - Lesbian couple with tod

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1 hour ago, farmgal4 said:

My father used to hold me down and tickle me.  It’s just one of the many things I hated him for.  It’s nothing more than a form of abuse.

My step cousin always did that. He was -- I don't remember, maybe 10 - 12 years older than me -- and I always hated him doing that, but all the adults just laughed about it.  I remember being relieved when my aunt and uncle divorced and my aunt moved with all her kids back to her home state.  I never saw D.  again and for that, I'm very grateful.  

I think Jill thinks she's doing a good job because she has watched Michelle all these years.  I think the Duggar girls probably "pity" those women who work.  I've always been childless and single but I cannot imagine having to find my only satisfaction in being a wife and mother.  

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libgirl2

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1 hour ago, Pingaponga said:

If Jill enjoyed cooking, she'd be looking at videos and websites, trying things out and maybe sharing her attempts/successes/failures online.  My 11-year-old nephew is interested in cooking, so he's been following videos online (my sister's Fb page has photos of some lobster dish he attempted - she figured if he was willing to attempt it, they'd splurge).  He's now branching out, trying his own things and having a lot of success and a bit of failure.  It is so easy these days to attempt things on your own, with videos that show you how to chop the herbs and veggies, how to sauté them, even how to present them on a plate.

The fact that Jill hasn't bothered with any of this, tells me she doesn't actually like cooking.  Which is fine - not everyone has to like cooking.  But if you're posting recipes...shouldn't you enjoy preparing food?

I hate cooking but I like good food. My recipes are basic, but if it tastes bad it goes out of the rotation. 

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Nysha

Nysha

17 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

I still don't think it was what he envisioned. I think he watched the Duggars on TV and wanted to be part of a big, happy Christian family. He saw himself marrying a pretty, pious Christian girl who would have sex with him, and take care of him, and provide for him financially. Maybe if she (and her family) had been what he expected, they would have brought out the better part of his nature. What he got has brought out the worst -- although I don't think he had to dig deep to find it.

 

I think that regardless of what Derick claims, he and Jill are being amply supported by TLC money. Neither of them works at a paying job, yet they have plenty of money to pay their rent, drive a nice car, and constantly eat out. Israel's homeschool curriculum was brand new and cost at least $200 total. The kids wear nice clothes that look new and their house is cluttered with stuff. Either they are living off savings from past payments, JimBob is paying them through the supposed family account, or they actually negotiated some type of settlement from TLC to keep from pushing a show at another network (unlikely). But, they don't seem to be hurting for money.

I think he was happiest before Israel was born. He doesn't seem to enjoy his kids and even when he's playing with them, he's not really playing with them, he's just forcing them to interact with him. The boys force him to at least appear responsible and keep him from the carefree life he had prior to marriage and I think he actively resents them. Jill strokes his ego, he'll always be smarter, better educated, and more worldly that her and other than having to share him with Israel and Samuel, I think he's satisfied with who she is.

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Future Cat Lady

Future Cat Lady

I don't like the Duggars and I hate all that they stand for, but I pity all of the Duggars kids. Their parents completely ruined their lives. They've been brainwashed from birth to believe in one way of life only. Any curiosity, ambition or independent thought was crushed as soon as it appeared. And the total isolation from others and lack of education made sure that they would always be dependent on their parents. They've had no choices in their lives. That's sad.

And what is even more fucked up, is that if some of them realize how screwed up this is, they are probably not allowed to openly feel or verbalize it. 

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sixlets

sixlets

If being a homemaker brought in an income, Jill would be owing money and not earning any.  

I have made her chicken/gb/potato dish twice.  It's actually quite tasty IF prepared correctly, and her's is not.  There should not be measurable liquid in it.  Green beans are the one veggie I will not buy frozen.  They have a very distinct waxy taste/texture in any dish I've tried them in, and Mr. Six is not a fan.  

Instead of wasting thousands to send Dreck to law school, they need to use that money to get her some therapy.  The one thing (HA!) that pisses me off about this whole family is they are taught to bury their feelings ten feet under.  All of the girls affected by Josh were just taught to slap a smile on their face and pretend like it didn't happen.  Just once, I would love to see someone slap the shit out of JB & Michelle.  Neither of them grew up the way they Jana's raised the kids.  Why don't their children deserve to grow up and live they way they did?  

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bigskygirl

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1 minute ago, sixlets said:

If being a homemaker brought in an income, Jill would be owing money and not earning any.  

I have made her chicken/gb/potato dish twice.  It's actually quite tasty IF prepared correctly, and her's is not.  There should not be measurable liquid in it.  Green beans are the one veggie I will not buy frozen.  They have a very distinct waxy taste/texture in any dish I've tried them in, and Mr. Six is not a fan.  

Instead of wasting thousands to send Dreck to law school, they need to use that money to get her some therapy.  The one thing (HA!) that pisses me off about this whole family is they are taught to bury their feelings ten feet under.  All of the girls affected by Josh were just taught to slap a smile on their face and pretend like it didn't happen.  Just once, I would love to see someone slap the shit out of JB & Michelle.  Neither of them grew up the way they Jana's raised the kids.  Why don't their children deserve to grow up and live they way they did?  

The line to slap JB and Michelle starts behind me.

The poor girls never had a chance to wear a revealing outfit and defraud their male neighbor to the point of him leaving his wife. How mean could Michelle be to her own daughters.

graefin

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5 hours ago, Christina87 said:

Out of all the girls, though, the only one I see with any "love" for homemaking is jana, who ironically isn't married.

I know she's related by marriage and not blood (which probably explains it), but Kendra looks to be the best homemaker of the bunch from what we've seen. Clean house, home-cooked meals (including for expected guests!), good parenting sense. Obviously her parents did something right.

PS: on a shallow note, I wish someone would teach Jill how to apply makeup.

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7 minutes ago, graefin said:

I know she's related by marriage and not blood (which probably explains it), but Kendra looks to be the best homemaker of the bunch from what we've seen. Clean house, home-cooked meals (including for expected guests!), good parenting sense. Obviously her parents did something right.

PS: on a shallow note, I wish someone would teach Jill how to apply makeup.

I wish all of the Duggars and friends would learn that eyeliner comes in more shades than black at all pricepoints.  Also Jill needs some moisturizer hopefully with some SPF.  I have more than 10 years on her and I look younger. 

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DangerousMinds

DangerousMinds

10 minutes ago, graefin said:

I know she's related by marriage and not blood (which probably explains it), but Kendra looks to be the best homemaker of the bunch from what we've seen. Clean house, home-cooked meals (including for expected guests!), good parenting sense. Obviously her parents did something right.

PS: on a shallow note, I wish someone would teach Jill how to apply makeup.

Those fancy makeup brushes from FabFitFun sure aren't helping.

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truthtalk2014

1 hour ago, DragonFaerie said:

My brain went between the saying on her shirt and the Britney Spears song of Oops I did it again and now I have Oh Lord do it again as an earworm - in the Britney Spears voice of course.

Same here.  My first thought.  

The first thing I saw was armpits.  Have we ever seen those on a Duggar?

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ehall1052

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1 hour ago, DragonFaerie said:

My brain went between the saying on her shirt and the Britney Spears song of Oops I did it again and now I have Oh Lord do it again as an earworm - in the Britney Spears voice of course.

“Do it again “ by Elevation Worship is a powerful song.  You can go on YouTube and listen to it.

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BitterApple

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1 hour ago, sixlets said:


I have made her chicken/gb/potato dish twice.  It's actually quite tasty IF prepared correctly, and her's is not.  There should not be measurable liquid in it.  

Curiosity got the best of me and I actually made it for dinner tonight and it was amazing. However, contrary to Jill, I cooked the potatoes for about 25 minutes on their own before adding the chicken and green beans. I also left out the butter. I had to use canned green beans (oh, the humanity!) which I usually hate, but roasting them in the oven took quite a bit of the mush factor out. It's definitely something I'd make again, I'd just never make it Jill's way, lol.

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Lemur

Lemur

18 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

Uplift and pray for Molly (&fam!)  What the heck is uplift and why could she not just type Molly and family. I would not want any Duggar near me if I was facing a life threatening medical condition and treatment.

And He will raise you up

On eagle's wings

Bear you on

The breadth of dawn

Make you to shine like the sun

And hold you in the palm of of His hand.

On Eagles' Wings is a very popular hymn from the mid-70's that based on several books, including Psalms, Matthew and Exodus.

(13 years of Catholic education.  It's an involuntary reflex.)

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DangerousMinds

DangerousMinds

Just now, Sew Sumi said:

There are two FTM trans people at my local Starbucks. I hope they take up the company on it's offer.

And screw the Duggars. Sbux will do just fine without their business. Go to Mama Carmen's instead. 

It seems odd no one has shamed Starbucks for this on SM. Especially Derick! Or will they continue to drink Starbucks and just be hypocrites, per usual?

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bythelake

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3 hours ago, Lemur said:

And He will raise you up

On eagle's wings

Bear you on

The breadth of dawn

Make you to shine like the sun

And hold you in the palm of of His hand.

On Eagles' Wings is a very popular hymn from the mid-70's that based on several books, including Psalms, Matthew and Exodus.

(13 years of Catholic education.  It's an involuntary reflex.)

I love that hymn. It always gives me goosebumps. 

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27 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

http://rodriguesfamilyministries.com/main/

Thank you. Sorry for a stupid question. Since I'm already asking a stupid question, I may as well ask another one, I keep reading here about Jill being afraid of a shower curtain. I don't watch the show anymore so can someone please tell me about that, or point me in the direction to read about it please?  Thank you in advance. 

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DragonFaerie

DragonFaerie

6 minutes ago, Maharincess said:

Thank you. Sorry for a stupid question. Since I'm already asking a stupid question, I may as well ask another one, I keep reading here about Jill being afraid of a shower curtain. I don't watch the show anymore so can someone please tell me about that, or point me in the direction to read about it please?  Thank you in advance. 

So IIRC, when Jill and Derick went to Danger America for their not missionication, they were home and the shower caddy fell in their bathroom.  They thought the house was under attack and locked themselves in the bedroom while sending out texts to their families to pray for them.

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ginger90

ginger90

9 minutes ago, DragonFaerie said:

So IIRC, when Jill and Derick went to Danger America for their not missionication, they were home and the shower caddy fell in their bathroom.  They thought the house was under attack and locked themselves in the bedroom while sending out texts to their families to pray for them.

This video shows them talking about the incident: 

 

https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/jill-duggar-cries-after-fearing-for-safety-on-counting-on-w446646/

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marypat57

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Late to the party, Lemur and By the Lake:

On Eagles Wings by Michael Joncas is a lovely, touching song.  I think it is in the top 10 of Catholic hymns (really).

 

I've heard it and sung it mostly at funerals (too many to count), along with Be Not Afraid.

The alto part is a difficult one to sing--can't do it alone and need another alto beside me. 

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1 hour ago, DragonFaerie said:

So IIRC, when Jill and Derick went to Danger America for their not missionication, they were home and the shower caddy fell in their bathroom.  They thought the house was under attack and locked themselves in the bedroom while sending out texts to their families to pray for them.

The kicker was that Jill told that story as an example of just how dangerous Central America is. She, Derick, and all the Duggars went on and on and on about how noble they were for living in such a dangerous country, and when a producer asked Jill for an example, her hysteria over a fallen shower caddy was all she could come up with. If I hadn't already hated her by then, that story would have done it.  After Josh, JB and Michelle, Jill is very much The Worst Dugger.

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cmr2014

cmr2014

17 minutes ago, lascuba said:

The kicker was that Jill told that story as an example of just how dangerous Central America is. She, Derick, and all the Duggars went on and on and on about how noble they were for living in such a dangerous country, and when a producer asked Jill for an example, her hysteria over a fallen shower caddy was all she could come up with. If I hadn't already hated her by then, that story would have done it.  After Josh, JB and Michelle, Jill is very much The Worst Dugger.

All of the sisters standing behind them look completely OVER this story. Jessa looks like she's trying hard to pump up the pathos so they can keep the show going.

Derick at least put his arm around Jill and showed some support -- it may have been for the camera, but it's more than he would do now.

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kalamac

kalamac

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"Do it again, Lord" with no context sounds vaguely dirty.

Wanting context, I googled Luke 1:37 and depending on which bible you're reading, it's variations on "nothing will be impossible with God." So I guess the 'do it again' slogan is meant to mean that God has cured people in the past, and as nothing is impossible they want him to do it again.

Edit: the bit before that in the bible (Luke 1:36) is about the angel Gabriel telling Mary that God can make even a barren woman pregnant.

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On 9/17/2018 at 5:34 PM, QuinnInND said:

I'm defrauded! I see collarbones! 

 

I'm going to say a couple of nice things about Jill (and Derick).

I think Jill looks pretty in the picture. She looks clean, her hair is combed, she's wearing new clothing, and she's smiling like a normal person -- not the big-eyed "surprise" face.

I do think that she is doing a better job than her mother -- as GeeGolly states, the bar is very low, but she's doing it. 

    * The kids look clean and in more recent photos they are wearing normal clothing

    * She cooks for her family -- not well -- but she does make them meals and they do sit together as a family and eat.

    * Izzy wears pajamas. The Duggars all sleep in their clothes, so this is a big thing. It appears that he only has one pair of pajamas (I assume Grandma Cathy bought them), but he has them, and wears them.

    * I think she's trying to provide some structure for her kids (meal time, daddy play time, bed time, etc.). I don't think she's very consistent, but considering that she has had none of that her life, I'll give her some credit for trying.

I will also say that I think it's possible that Derick might be a better father to his sons when they're a bit older. He wouldn't be the first father to not enjoy babies and toddlers, but grow into the role as his children become more verbal and independent.

That's really about the best I can do for them though.

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