mittsigirl December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163014
Natalie68 December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 1 minute ago, mittsigirl said: What the what what???? What was this an answer to and where can I follow Bobye?? 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163021
merylinkid December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, mittsigirl said: Calling BS on this. She seems to say she was subpoenaed to testify that the abuse DID happen but it was dropped then by the people who were bringing charges of abuse? Also, Ms. Holt, you and your family ain't all that. 5 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163024
mittsigirl December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Natalie68 said: What the what what???? What was this an answer to and where can I follow Bobye?? I have no idea! Was hoping somebody else may know what she is talking about. Just saw it and posted it while we are all waiting for the verdict. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163031
Cinnabon December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 59 minutes ago, mynextmistake said: The Sun is speculating that a verdict will be returned today due to Anna just being seen at the courthouse. I have no idea if that is reliable information. If the jury is back this fast, it’s almost certainly a guilty verdict. That rationale lost all meaning after OJ. 2 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163034
Natalie68 December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 1 minute ago, mittsigirl said: I have no idea! Was hoping somebody else may know what she is talking about. Just saw it and posted it while we are all waiting for the verdict. It sounds pretty juicy!!! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163036
GeeGolly December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 Its about 4:30 their time, if we don't here from them soon, I'm guessing it will be tomorrow. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163037
Natalie68 December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 1 minute ago, GeeGolly said: Its about 4:30 their time, if we don't here from them soon, I'm guessing it will be tomorrow. Saw this on twitter, take it for what it is worth: Hey everyone. Lawyer here. I expect a verdict by the end of the day. If they keep deliberating late, they’re close, just not there. If they go home for the night, that’s the time to start worrying about a hung jury. They are on central time so it’s 4:07pm. #joshduggar twitter.com/tb_meredith/st… 5 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163043
Cinnabon December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said: Just had confirmation from an attorney who has followed the paper trail on this case that CPS did indeed attempt to interview the kids, but both Smuganna declined. They basically said it was because they didn't trust the agency. eta The attorney went on to say that if Smuggar is convicted, Anna has no choice. CPS will interview the kids. Meanwhile, when they hear about other abused kids, they are the first to assign blame to CPS for not intervening. ETA -there is a poster on Twitter who claims to have provided security to them in 2015, and claims that the whole family fled to Oklahoma after the scandals to avoid CPS. Edited December 8, 2021 by Cinnabon 2 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163045
merylinkid December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 We getting close to the witching hour. Either they work late or we know its tomorrow. I really hope its today I can't do this again. 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163046
Ohiopirate02 December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, Natalie68 said: Wishing for a very brisk wind... COME ON JURY!!!!! Unless JB went to Morrie's wigs 13 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163050
Natalie68 December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 Just now, Ohiopirate02 said: Unless JB went to Morrie's wigs GOOD ONE!!!! 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163051
crazycatlady58 December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said: Just had confirmation from an attorney who has followed the paper trail on this case that CPS did indeed attempt to interview the kids, but both Smuganna declined. They basically said it was because they didn't trust the agency. eta The attorney went on to say that if Smuggar is convicted, Anna has no choice. CPS will interview the kids. I wonder if they have taught the children to fear the people who are working in CPS? If Josh is found guilty ( from my keyboard to God's ear) and CPS comes to interview the children that may be terrifying. Who knows what they gave been told. I hope this is over soon for the sake of the children in all the families. Everyone is probably very stressed and that tension is felt by the kids. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163056
Ljohnson1987 December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 I bet they have a verdict by the end of the week. I hope it's guilty! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163059
GeeGolly December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Natalie68 said: Saw this on twitter, take it for what it is worth: Hey everyone. Lawyer here. I expect a verdict by the end of the day. If they keep deliberating late, they’re close, just not there. If they go home for the night, that’s the time to start worrying about a hung jury. They are on central time so it’s 4:07pm. #joshduggar twitter.com/tb_meredith/st… I get what they're saying about staying late, but IMO, worrying about a hung jury is a little premature. And any lawyer worth their salt will tell you there really isn't a rhyme or reason to how deliberations go. Edited December 8, 2021 by GeeGolly 1 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163062
mimionthebeach December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, crazycatlady58 said: I wonder if they have taught the children to fear the people who are working in CPS? If Josh is found guilty ( from my keyboard to God's ear) and CPS comes to interview the children that may be terrifying. Who knows what they gave been told. I hope this is over soon for the sake of the children in all the families. Everyone is probably very stressed and that tension is felt by the kids. That's Cult101 isn't it? 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163064
Rootbeer December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 From my limited experience with civil trials: probably the judge will send a message to the jury soon asking if they’ll feel they could reach a verdict in the next hour or two. If yes, the judge will encourage/recommend that they continue. If they’re not close, the judge will suggest wrapping up for the evening and starting fresh in the morning. 4 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163072
inkworks December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 (edited) Reddit saying verdict is in?? EDIT: Looks like it was a false alarm. Edited December 8, 2021 by inkworks 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163077
MamaR December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 Oh man just drove home from work (after reading updates all day long 🤦♀️) Came in got changed, grabbed a Diet Dr Pepper and pringles and sat down to read and hopefully celebrate and still no news 😩 lol. Seriously I am way too invested in this. Thanks to everyone who provided updates and all the technical interpretation, much appreciated! Here’s hoping we have some news soon and then we can all get back to our regular lives lol. 22 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163082
irisheyes December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, crazycatlady58 said: I wonder if they have taught the children to fear the people who are working in CPS? If Josh is found guilty ( from my keyboard to God's ear) and CPS comes to interview the children that may be terrifying. Who knows what they gave been told. I hope this is over soon for the sake of the children in all the families. Everyone is probably very stressed and that tension is felt by the kids. The people who interview kids are trained really well. It more like a playtime/conversation than a questioning session. They work really hard to put the kids at ease. 2 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163088
Popular Post BucFan December 8, 2021 Popular Post Share December 8, 2021 Next Season On TLC - Josh Duggar 19 Years And Counting 13 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163098
Westiepeach December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, irisheyes said: The people who interview kids are trained really well. It more like a playtime/conversation than a questioning session. They work really hard to put the kids at ease. Except in this case it is totally different. The M’s have never been around anyone who is not related to them. So playtime/conversation with a stranger? Not gonna happen. Not gonna talk. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163099
Dianaofthehunt December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 How did a marginal (at best) publication like The Sun get first dibs on this trial? How come Rachel Maddow and other real news outlets don’t cover it? My husband opines it’s because legit news sources aren’t interested in what is essentially hillbilly news. 1 7 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163102
GeeGolly December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 Almost 5pm AR time. If the lawyers and Duggars start leaving, we'll know the verdict will likely be tomorrow. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163111
Popular Post CountryGirl December 8, 2021 Popular Post Share December 8, 2021 Me, the last few hours. 25 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163112
CountryGirl December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Westiepeach said: Except in this case it is totally different. The M’s have never been around anyone who is not related to them. So playtime/conversation with a stranger? Not gonna happen. Not gonna talk. For the older ones, sure, but the younger ones, I have more hope. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163123
floridamom December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 When my then-husband and I were first married, we shared one car and worked 1 block away from one another. I have spent many evenings in the courthouse hall way waiting for verdicts from a trial he did that day. Juries could deliberate well in to the evening, even 11pm if the judge wants to wrap it up...OR they could go until earlier and return in the morning. We just won't know which way this judge will swing. 1 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163126
emmawoodhouse December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 Jury has adjourned for the day. 4 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163128
all fall down December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 Just now from the Sun. Take that for what it's worth * Jury has not reached decision The jury in the Josh Duggar trial has not yet reached a verdict. The Sun reporter said the jurors have indicated they want to come back tomorrow to deliberate further. 7 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163134
libgirl2 December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 Just now, christine falls said: Just now from the Sun. Take that for what it's worth * Jury has not reached decision The jury in the Josh Duggar trial has not yet reached a verdict. The Sun reporter said the jurors have indicated they want to come back tomorrow to deliberate further. Just what the heck wasn't clear to them? 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163135
mimionthebeach December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 Just now, christine falls said: Just now from the Sun. Take that for what it's worth * Jury has not reached decision The jury in the Josh Duggar trial has not yet reached a verdict. The Sun reporter said the jurors have indicated they want to come back tomorrow to deliberate further. Aaaarrrgggg 😫 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163137
merylinkid December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 Someone bought that insane hacker theory and is holding out. He was AT THE CAR LOT when the stuff was downloaded. It would be the most amazing coincidence in the world that someone just happened to hack in and download child porn art that EXACT MOMENT. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163138
emmawoodhouse December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, libgirl2 said: Just what the heck wasn't clear to them? They probably need to go over the forensics with a fine tooth comb to convince any holdouts. Edited December 8, 2021 by emmawoodhouse 1 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163141
GeeGolly December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 Maybe before they put a husband and dad in prison, they just want to dot their Is and cross their Ts. I'm not worried... too much... yet. 18 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163144
Picture It. Sicily December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, merylinkid said: Someone bought that insane hacker theory and is holding out. He was AT THE CAR LOT when the stuff was downloaded. It would be the most amazing coincidence in the world that someone just happened to hack in and download child porn art that EXACT MOMENT. Deep breaths. 3 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163146
Tuxcat December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 1 minute ago, merylinkid said: Someone bought that insane hacker theory and is holding out. He was AT THE CAR LOT when the stuff was downloaded. It would be the most amazing coincidence in the world that someone just happened to hack in and download child porn art that EXACT MOMENT. Agreed. But they might be hung up on that one question. Why set up a partition, do all of that for three days and then not access the partition until June. No activity again on the partion side of the computer. Only activity was in October on his MacBook looking at adult porn. I wonder if the calendar request was to see what three days - was there a trigger - idk something like mothers day? 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163147
libgirl2 December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 1 minute ago, GeeGolly said: Maybe before they put a husband and dad in prison, they just want to dot their Is and cross their Ts. I'm not worried... too much... yet. I can't be that optimistic. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163148
Dianaofthehunt December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 Dang! Well, I’m not sorry that the hoiminid-in-custody will get another sleepless night. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163150
Tuxcat December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 It's a lot of material to digest and go over. It's not a bad sign that they didnt reach a decision. Still makes me "unreasonably" nervous. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163155
CandyCaneTree December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 30 minutes ago, MamaR said: 🤦♀️) 😩 Here’s hoping we have some news soon and then we can all get back to our regular lives lol. What is our regular lives 🤔 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163156
Tuxcat December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dianaofthehunt said: Dang! Well, I’m not sorry that the hoiminid-in-custody will get another sleepless night. At least we get pics leaving the courthouse. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163160
emmawoodhouse December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 The lawyer I was listening to said not to worry. This is common to go home and come back with a fresh mind tomorrow. Now if it goes beyond tomoy, I will start to worry. 3 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163163
Annb67 December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, libgirl2 said: I can't be that optimistic. Yeah me either. These people get by with everything!! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163166
Popular Post Rootbeer December 8, 2021 Popular Post Share December 8, 2021 1 minute ago, libgirl2 said: Just what the heck wasn't clear to them? It could be they are almost there, but there’s a lot of paperwork to complete, etc. and they’d rather just wait until morning. True story: my late father was foreman of a jury in a criminal case. He was also in his 70’s and worked part-time in his own business, so no big commitments. Anyway, the jury got the case in the afternoon, discussed and reached a guilty verdict. All that was left was an hour or so of paperwork and they would then get to the court for reading the verdict. It was already 5 or so, the judge let them know they could work as long as they wanted. My father’s suggestion? Go home, come back in the morning for the court supplied breakfast, do the paperwork, get the verdict read and they’re on their way home with an additional 50 bucks jury pay and the rest of the day off. That verdict was unanimous too. 5 12 23 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163168
Popular Post GeeGolly December 8, 2021 Popular Post Share December 8, 2021 (edited) I predict on 12/9/21, at 10:01am, the jury will deliver a healthy happy verdict, named, J'guilty. Edited December 8, 2021 by GeeGolly 28 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163175
MamaR December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, CandyCaneTree said: What is our regular lives 🤔 Only reading posts for part of the day and the not the entire day? 😂 At least until my case lol 6 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163176
OpieTaylor December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Tuxcat said: Agreed. But they might be hung up on that one question. Why set up a partition, do all of that for three days and then not access the partition until June. No activity again on the partion side of the computer. Only activity was in October on his MacBook looking at adult porn. I wonder if the calendar request was to see what three days - was there a trigger - idk something like mothers day? Maybe he was scared to look at what he’d downloaded after he did it. Or what if he watched some of it while it was downloading and even he was shocked by it. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163181
madpsych78 December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 Mother's Day in 2019 was Sunday, May 12th. Use that to figure out the days of the week that correspond with the dates mentioned in this trial. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163188
Churchhoney December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 (edited) Lots of juries start out divided. Very few end up that way. It's only been one afternoon and there was lots of stuff to do. Sometimes you wait a while for somebody to volunteer to be foreperson -- I can imagine that happening on this trial! ETA: Foreperson of this jury is going to have reporters chasing them down, no matter which way the verdict goes. A good reason to hesitate. Edited December 8, 2021 by Churchhoney 4 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163195
RedDelicious December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, GeeGolly said: I predict on 12/9/21, at 10:01am, the jury will deliver a healthy happy verdict, named, J'guilty. I love this so much. 6 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/674/#findComment-7163199
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