Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[tabloidlover]

Duggars are denying it happened..  what the actual fuck?

https://people.com/tv/duggar-family-home-raided-by-homeland-security-investigations/

Edited November 20, 2019 by tabloidlover
Denying... not denting 🤦🏼‍♀️😂

[Oldernowiser]

14 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

Counting on: prison edition 

I would watch that 

Counting On: Knocked up or Locked Up

[Guest]

Anna's (and Jed's) Instagram comments are all open. However, not one negative comment has been posted. I'm assuming they hired someone (or some company) to immediately delete anything negative posted because, from my cursory checking, there seems to be nothing but praise on the pictures posted. 

[Sew Sumi]

1 minute ago, tabloidlover said:

Duggars are denting it happened..  what the actual fuck?

https://people.com/tv/duggar-family-home-raided-by-homeland-security-investigations/

Yeah, DFO just posted a denial on FB.

[Temperance]

I have no f*cking clue what's going on and I'm a little freaked. 

Also I don't trust Crystal Ball Katie.

[Zella]

Just now, Sew Sumi said:

Yeah, DFO just posted a denial on FB.

Bahahaha That's hilarious. They're playing he said she said with the federal government?! 

[Temperance]

I hope it's for what happened in the Bahamas. They deserve to be called out for that and for the mediccorp charity name and all. 

Edited November 20, 2019 by Temperance

[galaxychaser]

8 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

Counting On: Knocked up or Locked Up

Knocked up while locked up.

[Future Cat Lady]

6 minutes ago, Temperance said:

I hope it's for what happened in the Bahamas. They deserve to be called out for that and for the mediccorp charity name and all. 

But Josh is not involved in that. 

[Temperance]

If they raided the TTH and Josh's business, then probably most of the marrieds aren't involved. Josh/Anna maybe and JB/Michelle, but none of the married girls and most of the married sons are out right?

[BitterApple]

I'm completely confused. Duggars are denying, multiple news sources are quoting Homeland, confirming. I'm assuming People wouldn't publish without fact-checking, so what gives?

[Sew Sumi]

Semantics, probably.

[Zella]

3 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I'm completely confused. Duggars are denying, multiple news sources are quoting Homeland, confirming. I'm assuming People wouldn't publish without fact-checking, so what gives?

Yeah I don't think People would go to press without fact-checking. Also, just as far as local sources go, Channel 5 (the local CBS affiliate) is usually the most trusted/most widely viewed channel around here. When they ran this earlier tonight, that convinced me something went down. I am currently waiting for Channel 5's 10 o clock newscast. The 9 o clock one on a different channel didn't show anything, but I don't really like that channel anyway. 

[Oldernowiser]

Is the original source the local news channel?

 I find it hard to believe that a local news channel would run a story made up out of thin air given the local prominence of the Duggars. They did cite an unnamed source who “wouldn’t deny” a raid had happened but parts were bracketed as if they’d been paraphrased. If it turns out that the HSI source was faked or if the actual comment was, “I can’t confirm or deny” or words to that effect, someone is getting fired, at a minimum.

Would People run with it given the local news channel source? Probably. I don’t think of People as being a bastion of journalistic standards.

As for Crystal Ball whatever...that’s just internet chatter. It’s that local news report that really got this rolling again.

Now do I believe the Duggars would lie? Hell, yes.

[scriggle]

5 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Semantics, probably.

It wasn't a "raid" the feds just showed up with a warrant. 😇

[Oldernowiser]

1 minute ago, scriggle said:

It wasn't a "raid" the feds just showed up with a warrant. 😇

And looked through some stuff. And borrowed a couple of thumb drives. But we gave them banana muffins and sang for them! Yay!

[Zella]

3 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

Is the original source the local news channel?

 I find it hard to believe that a local news channel would run a story made up out of thin air given the local prominence of the Duggars. They did cite an unnamed source who “wouldn’t deny” a raid had happened but parts were bracketed as if they’d been paraphrased. If it turns out that the HSI source was faked or if the actual comment was, “I can’t confirm or deny” or words to that effect, someone is getting fired, at a minimum.

Would People run with it given the local news channel source? Probably. I don’t think of People as being a bastion of journalistic standards.

As for Crystal Ball whatever...that’s just internet chatter. It’s that local news report that really got this rolling again.

Now do I believe the Duggars would lie? Hell, yes.

I don't believe Channel 5 broke it. I think KNWA (the NBC affiliate) did. I don't get NBC, so I can't watch their newscast. 

Edited November 20, 2019 by Zella

[babyhouseman]

This reminds me of the blind item that implied Derrick was up to no good in a foreign country. But since this is Duggar related, Derrick is probably not involved. 

[Zella]

IT'S THE FIRST STORY ON THE 10'O CLOCK NEWS! 

[Oldernowiser]

1 minute ago, Zella said:

IT'S THE FIRST STORY ON THE 10'O CLOCK NEWS! 

Yowza.

[Zella]

Channel 5 is only saying the business was what was raided and not mentioning any houses being searched. They noted that same wording about officials "not disputing" the information about an investigation. They also screencapped the Duggar denial. Then they rather gloriously recapped Josh's various scandals over the past few years, with a note this isn't the first time the Duggars have been the center of notoriety. 

Not going to say the house wasn't searched, but that is not what Channel 5 is currently saying. 

Edited November 20, 2019 by Zella

[Sew Sumi]

3 minutes ago, Zella said:

IT'S THE FIRST STORY ON THE 10'O CLOCK NEWS! 

Well, now the Duggars can sue. 😂

[SuspiciousMind]

Excellent and concise report, Zella. Thank you.

[Zella]

Just now, SuspiciousMind said:

Excellent and concise report, Zella. Thank you.

Thank you! I'll keep an eye on the local coverage. Maybe some more breadcrumbs will tumble out. 🙂 

[farmgal4]

3 hours ago, PikaScrewChu said:

Imma just leave this here. Apparently Homeland Security did do a raid after all.

https://www.nwahomepage.com/news/knwa/homeland-security-investigations-raid-duggar-home/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_KNWA_-_Northwest_Arkansas_News

Wow.  Can someone summarize Josh’s real estate fraud charge, please?  What’s that about?

[Zella]

1 minute ago, farmgal4 said:

Wow.  Can someone summarize Josh’s real estate fraud charge, please?  What’s that about?

That was news to me too. Radar said this earlier this year:

https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2019/04/josh-duggar-sued-real-estate-battle-involving-fraud/

[ChaChaSlide]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

Holy shit. How reliable is this Katie?

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

She has contacts in NWA.

I’m pretty sure she was also at the heart of all the DV allegations with Amber Portwood from Teen Mom OG... she seems like an internet notoriety chaser, and with her backing off her previous statement about the Duggar’s but then doubling down and including allegations against even more people when the DHS raid came out... IDK if I believe her. 

[luvbadtv]

Sounds like the Duggars may just be as cocky as the Giudices were.  Why air your life on a tv show if you are doing something illegal?

[cmr2014]

2 minutes ago, luvbadtv said:

Sounds like the Duggars may just be as cocky as the Giudices were.  Why air your life on a tv show if you are doing something illegal?

Because Jesus is watching over them and protecting them from the godless government.

[Sew Sumi]

The Duggars (aside from Smuggar) are Teflon. 

[Temperance]

The Josh real estate scandal was also mentioned in People. 

"Currently, Josh is in the middle of a real estate lawsuit. In September, KARK.com reported that a three-day jury trial is set for Josh, who is “accused of fraud and is being sued for ‘quiet title’ and breaching a contract, according to court records.” The trial reportedly begins April 27, 2020."

[BitterApple]

A notification just popped up on my phone. InTouch has picked up the story.

[PikaScrewChu]

Dear Duggars

I know you don't read here so maybe I should post this on Reddit since we know you read there. 

I know you run on "Duggar time" and think it is quite adorable. However, the time to issue a public statement about internet rumors that have been swirling around since Saturday night is not around 10 pm EST the following Tuesday. You get a PR firm on that and write a statement ASAP. I'm not sure if you've noticed but people who snark on your family run from mild "heh look at Joe's photoshopped bicep" to people who want to see you launched into a black hole to never be heard from again. The longer you let the rumors swirl, the longer you allowed them to gain traction and gain a life of their own. Then journalists from legitimate news organizations start digging. Sometimes journalists find nothing. Other times they find things that are a complete ol' what the fuck. This time it seems like they found something. 

I thought the lot of you had learned your lesson after 2015. It seems not. <insert shocked Pikachu face> If you are actually doing illegal shit, stop it. If you want to keep doing illegal shit but keep your TV show, stop trying to push your uneducated spawn into politics.

Yours truly,

PikaScrewChu

[Oldernowiser]

Standing ovation, PikaScrewChu.

Bravissimo!

[farmgal4]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

So what are we thinking? Cancelled or will TLC hedge and wait to see how things play out?

They’ll take the wait and see approach.

[farmgal4]

1 hour ago, JoanArc said:

"He went out for cigarettes!" -Anna

“And a 6-pack!”🍺

[PikaScrewChu]

6 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

Standing ovation, PikaScrewChu.

Bravissimo!

But seriously heh, they photoshopped a bicep on Joe!

I forgot to put in that they thought Joe and Kendra's exclusive baby shoot would distract too. Once you get to the umpteenth grandchild, no one cares. Pull out the big guns, like all of a sudden renouncing how you treated the LGBTQ community if you want to distract and deflect. 

I'm utterly shocked that the family has been chasing fame for how long and has been burned so many times doesn't even know how to stop an internet rumor in its tracks. Troy McClure was better at keeping his fish fetish under wraps FFS.

[galaxychaser]

1 hour ago, scriggle said:

It wasn't a "raid" the feds just showed up with a warrant. 😇

They brought Starbucks and donuts. 

[Oldernowiser]

1 hour ago, Zella said:

Thank you! I'll keep an eye on the local coverage. Maybe some more breadcrumbs will tumble out. 🙂 

I feel like you’re our reporter on the front lines...our own Christiane Amanpour!

[Zella]

1 minute ago, Oldernowiser said:

I feel like you’re our reporter on the front lines...our own Christiane Amanpour!

You're too kind! 🙂 

[galaxychaser]

I’m awaiting Anna baby news. 

Miracle Mercy Michelle 

Will Josh be in jail? Or sleeping while Anna delivers on the toilet?

[PikaScrewChu]

8 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

I’m awaiting Anna baby news. 

Miracle Mercy Michelle 

Will Josh be in jail? Or sleeping while Anna delivers on the toilet?

Why not both?

[FairyDusted]

Well Hell I was catching up in the prayer closet and looky what pops up again. I sure as hell hope it was serious money laundering and Josh and Boob go to jail. It would serve the old man right so having his name on every damn thing.

[latetotheparty]

1 minute ago, FairyDusted said:

Well Hell I was catching up in the prayer closet and looky what pops up again. I sure as hell hope it was serious money laundering and Josh and Boob go to jail. It would serve the old man right so having his name on every damn thing.

At the very least please let Boob be required to open up all the skeletons in his financial closet.  
 

It occurs to me that real prison is probably the only way to stop the Smuggar baby train. As Picard would say, make it so. 

[Lunera]

I'm guessing the newest blessing will be called Truley Innocence Duggar.

Born the day after scandal #3 breaks.

[GeeGolly]

It seems odd a raid was only conducted at the business and not at Josh's home - or wherever he's living. The Duggars have a lot of gun-type weapons like the ones shown in the Round House pics. Maybe Josh was selling guns out of the car lot without a license?

But then again, what was raided besides the car lot? For any kind of crime, law enforcement would want all electronic devices.

I wonder if, when Homeland Security arrived, Josh said, "You'll have to ask my dad".

[MsJamieDornan]

1 hour ago, FairyDusted said:

I sure as hell hope it was serious money laundering and Josh and Boob go to jail. It would serve the old man right so having his name on every damn thing.

I have my fingers crossed that it's financial fraud and Boob's pretend empire comes crashing down. I can't tell you how much I despise him. Drag him off to jail.

[GeeGolly]

41 minutes ago, MsJamieDornan said:

I have my fingers crossed that it's financial fraud and Boob's pretend empire comes crashing down. I can't tell you how much I despise him. Drag him off to jail.

Maybe it is some type of financial fraud. JB may have become emboldened due to the current example being set my those in higher office.

[Rabbittron]

4 hours ago, luvbadtv said:

Sounds like the Duggars may just be as cocky as the Giudices were.  Why air your life on a tv show if you are doing something illegal?

But in their minds these days they are doing every above board nothing they do is illegal. 

[Temperance]

I have a feeling it's nothing and this won't go anywhere. 🍂