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Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

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hoosier80
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New show title: 10 to 20 Years and Counting 

MargeGunderson
MargeGunderson

Someone on Reddit just described Josh’s face as a glistening glazed ham. I am considering divorcing my husband and marrying that poster. 

doodlebug
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Well, for many of us, it's the difference between 'imperfect' and 'non-PC' and being a criminal.  Josh is a child molester and his parents actively intervened in his situation to avoid him being punis

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JoanArc

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I'm thinking Mercy or Miracle in keeping with the "M" theme. It would just be shmaltzy enough to make their groupies go "awwww."

But Moe Lester Duggar if it's a boy?

Give these people's one talent is reproduction Anna will have home birth twins.

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Mrsjumbo

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Can't believe I posted nearly 2 days ago...and no one has posted anything after me.

I think it goes to prove that even though there would seem to be something to talk about now that Smuggar is back...this family is soooooooo boooooooring that people are getting burned out on snarking about them...what do we call this trend? Smuggar Fatigue?

I would love nothing more than this family to fade into obscurity. Although I would miss the very witty snark here, it would be worth it.

Flipping channels I see that JBoob & Mechelle are on the "counting on" show. Since Anna's been on too, it's only a matter of time before Smugs makes an appearance. First in the background at a holiday gathering, then playing with his kids & helping out with the manly yardwork at the TTH...

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RazzleberryPie

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Anna is looking very dolled up lately on Counting On. Teased up hair, lots of makeup, definite planned 'outfits' that are fundy trendy.

Not sure if this means she's trying to look extra cute for josh or if she's subtly putting herself on the market. Maybe living in the TTH gives her enough caregivers that she has time to curl her hair 24/7.

Normally I'd say there's no divorce in their world, but she has some biblical justification w/the repeated cheating, and once in a while, you'll get a woman who's had enough and leaves her husband - but usually has the next one lined up first. Can't not have that headship/income provider.

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Lemur

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I'm only a very casual watcher. Can someone explain the toilet birth to me? That didn't really happen....did it?

 

Yup.  Anna gave birth to Michael, at home, on a toilet with a wooden toilet seat.  Naturally, being the internet, there are pictures of it all over the place plus video on several services.

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Yup.  Anna gave birth to Michael, at home, on a toilet with a wooden toilet seat.  Naturally, being the internet, there are pictures of it all over the place plus video on several services.

Not to mention that she allowed the whole thing to be filmed and aired by TLC!  So much for Duggar claims of "modesty."

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ariel

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But...why? And what is with all the home births? I have some friends who went fun die, and even they manage to have their babies in the hospital.

Some fundies are just crazier than others.

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BitterApple

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But...why? And what is with all the home births? I have some friends who went fun die, and even they manage to have their babies in the hospital.

I think it's part trend, part necessity. Anna and Jessa likely gave birth at home because they had no health insurance. Jill attempted a home birth because she fancies herself as some hippie dippie Earth Mother. Thus far Anna is winning the home birth breeding race. She's 4 for 4 while the Duggar girls are 1 for 2. Honestly, I'd say 0 for 2 considering Jessa required an emergency transfer.

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Mrsjumbo

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Anna is looking very dolled up lately on Counting On. Teased up hair, lots of makeup, definite planned 'outfits' that are fundy trendy.

Not sure if this means she's trying to look extra cute for josh or if she's subtly putting herself on the market. Maybe living in the TTH gives her enough caregivers that she has time to curl her hair 24/7.

Normally I'd say there's no divorce in their world, but she has some biblical justification w/the repeated cheating, and once in a while, you'll get a woman who's had enough and leaves her husband - but usually has the next one lined up first. Can't not have that headship/income provider.

Yes, that's what I noticed too when I saw her. Full makeup, hair looked nice, trendy outfit with ankle booties.

Much different than the old dumpy frumpy skirts to the floor & flip flops.

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RazzleberryPie

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But...why? And what is with all the home births? I have some friends who went fun die, and even they manage to have their babies in the hospital.

My theory is they don't understand medicine and fear it, plus they think they're being old fashioned and nostalgic - Jesus was a homebirth (yeah, I know, in a stable - the cow's home). Also, so many of them are dirt poor and uninsured, so they insist on cheaper routes. In the meantime, disparaging mainstream hospital births as heathen makes them feel better about their alternative.

Now that Obama care requires some sort of insurance for everyone, let's see if the hospital births increase again.

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SometimesBites

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Yes, that's what I noticed too when I saw her. Full makeup, hair looked nice, trendy outfit with ankle booties.

Much different than the old dumpy frumpy skirts to the floor & flip flops.

So maybe she's hoping Josh will rein in his wandering eye if she doesn't dress like Michelle (although, given his predeliction for his own female family members, who knows?)

*trudges off to prayer closet...

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Barb23

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Yes, that's what I noticed too when I saw her. Full makeup, hair looked nice, trendy outfit with ankle booties.

Much different than the old dumpy frumpy skirts to the floor & flip flops.

She's also trying to make her voice more sweet & softer. She was talking this way in her TH's but talking like the old Anna when she was packing to see Joshley.

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Fuzzysox

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Old photos are resurfacing showing Josh Duggar campaigning for Ted Cruz.  I wonder how this will affect the campaign?  Also, Anna's sister Priscilla and husband David Waller are actively supporting Cruz on social media.  Is Cruz the fundie candidate?

http://starcasm.net/archives/346507 

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Creepy but in another 10 years Smugs will be Gothard's twin. They look so much alike. Never noticed it before. *shudder*

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SometimesBites

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Old photos are resurfacing showing Josh Duggar campaigning for Ted Cruz. I wonder how this will affect the campaign? Also, Anna's sister Priscilla and husband David Waller are actively supporting Cruz on social media. Is Cruz the fundie candidate?

http://starcasm.net/archives/346507

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This is one of the most revolting things I've ever seen. It's like the tabloid pics of a goat with two heads, or that poor cyclopian kitten. Some things are so shudderiffic you can hardly look away. God knows what kind of nightmares I'm about to have...

Why do their faces look like that?

OMG, you're killing me. Edited by SometimesBites
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Man, Josh has just always looked like a 53 year-old branch manager who has had a triple bypass. Even when he was a teenager.

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Sew Sumi

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I turn 53 in June. No one gets my age within 10 years, and I loved me some playing hard/working hard well into my 30's. And FWIW, I am in perfect health. And always a heathen.

Suck on that, Smuggar. And poor Anna. She's going to also age quickly with that dead weight of a spouse she was forced to stay with.

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Barb23

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Creepy but in another 10 years Smugs will be Gothard's twin. They look so much alike. Never noticed it before. *shudder*

I'm confused - isn't that Ted Cruz pictured with Josh & not Gothard? The comments are referencing that this is Gothard which as far as I can tell, it's not.

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JoanArc

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I'm confused - isn't that Ted Cruz pictured with Josh & not Gothard? The comments are referencing that this is Gothard which as far as I can tell, it's not.

I think it just means in general - and really, they're right!

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becca3891

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My theory is they don't understand medicine and fear it, plus they think they're being old fashioned and nostalgic - Jesus was a homebirth (yeah, I know, in a stable - the cow's home). Also, so many of them are dirt poor and uninsured, so they insist on cheaper routes. In the meantime, disparaging mainstream hospital births as heathen makes them feel better about their alternative.

Now that Obama care requires some sort of insurance for everyone, let's see if the hospital births increase again.

It's interesting how there's some home birth trend overlap between fundies and crunchy granola, earthy types. The common thread seems to be a belief that it's a natural process, not an illness, so thus no hospital. I respect it to a point, but it also ignores the harsh reality that this "natural process" is in fact risky and dangerous in a decent percentage of cases.

 

I'm confused - isn't that Ted Cruz pictured with Josh & not Gothard? The comments are referencing that this is Gothard which as far as I can tell, it's not.

Someone said that Josh looks like a younger version of Gothard, so I understand your confusion. Yes, it's Ted Cruz, and I know we aren't supposed to get too political here, but he is definitely the favored one among fundies. His father is a preacher who believes in Christian dominionism, the really scary doctrine that some of the people in Quiverfull circles believe in, that says Old Testament law should be instituted in our country. Ted Cruz attended the National Religious Liberties Conference, where the main speaker was almost literally foaming at the mouth and saying that all the gays need to be executed. It is scary. http://www.advocate.com/election/2016/2/22/watch-ted-cruz-campaign-calls-attending-kill-gays-conference-mistake

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Aja

Aja

Seeing Josh's kids makes things a little too real for me. I even find it hard to snark. It's all hilarious idiot fundie games until you see those innocent little faces and it really hits home, what their father has done and what they are going to be forced to live with their entire lives because their mother thinks abuse is Jesusy. I just can't. It makes me want to cry.

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3girlsforus

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Seeing Josh's kids makes things a little too real for me. I even find it hard to snark. It's all hilarious idiot fundie games until you see those innocent little faces and it really hits home, what their father has done and what they are going to be forced to live with their entire lives because their mother thinks abuse is Jesusy. I just can't. It makes me want to cry.

 

And let's not forget that when Josh victimized his sisters they were little kids like that too. Innocent and being abused by both parents and sibling. So while we snark about what Jill and Jessa have become, they were innocent once too and are products of what this kind upbringing can do to you. 

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JoanArc

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On my iPad, but what's this about another Josh victim coming forward? She seems to now be in her 20's and has had a rough time of things. This is not what the Duggars need.

I have a measure of sympathy for Anna now. Get out while you can, girl. He will never stop and never change.

Edit: here is a link http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/04/20/josh-duggar-new-victim-molestation-scandal-accusation/

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JoanArc

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Oh take with a huge grain of salt, one of the commenters is saying its a Holt.

Seriously, I worry for Anna's mental health. I'm sure Michelle will film her breakdown, and sell the tape for seven figures.

Sympathies to the mods. I recommend you take some antacid.

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Vaysh

Vaysh

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This comment by dischuch was interesting:

 

Since they dont allow editing and you cant even see what you write let me try this again without typos
I reported this two years ago long before the whole mess came to light. It was senator jim holts daughter.
If you watch the videos pf the duggars all boohoohooing about the whole affair you will hear the repeated lies. First jim bob and michelle say they got him help all those years ago. Then jill and jessa say he was finally getting help for the first time. Then when Josh returned from rehab they said. He made his first attempt at rehab.
Its like they think no one will remember what they said. Its crazy.

 

This is a rumour that's been floating around for about as long as the molestation rumours. And for a good long while this is what the "sin in the camp" was believed to be about. It was a rumour "debunked" at about the same time as the molestation rumours were as well and was never really resurrected but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was true.

 

I do find it a bit ridiculous that InTouch plays into the idea that a grown woman leaving her childhood home is an act of rebellion, but it does give a hint that this other family is as patriarchal as the Duggars.

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BitterApple

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Do you guys think this is a legitimate story though? Or is InTouch just recycling rumors and packaging them as fresh material from an "inside source."

When the first scandal came out, many people on here stated they thought it was just the tip of the iceberg. Given Josh's predilections, it's not completely implausible to think other victims are out there and they just haven't came forward.

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