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My opinion after watching this show, reading their books etc.

Jim Bob is not very nice. Jim Bob is shrewd and impresses as someone who is a hater, cold and calculating. I do think he loves his kids but I also think that's very conditional on their obedience. (which makes it not really love-maybe that's why Josh is so messed up) Josh defied his father and Jim Bob is like an angry snake.

Michelle is a nut but I think she has a some kindness under there somewhere. Michelle is also damaged herself from getting involved with this Gothard mess, which Jim Bob led her into. her laundry room break down story makes me think that she is really suffering with some type of mental health issues.

I'm betting Jim Bob is going to make Josh pay for this...over and over again.

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I think it's hilarious that Boob and J'Chelle are arguing about Josh. I have no doubt that J'Chelle thinks he's a precious snowflake because he's the oldest boy and is trying to protect him, and Boob is either shunning him or making his life a living hell (I'm leaning toward the latter, as I think Boob was probably teased a lot in high school and has become a bully, at least towards other men, as an adult). And Josh deserves to be treated like crap.

 

What's sad is that neither parent is thinking about how their daughters feel, or arguing about how best to protect them. I wonder if they even asked their daughters how they felt about Creepy McPastyFace coming back to live with them again?

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My opinion after watching this show, reading their books etc.

Jim Bob is not very nice. Jim Bob is shrewd and impresses as someone who is a hater, cold and calculating. I do think he loves his kids but I also think that's very conditional on their obedience. (which makes it not really love-maybe that's why Josh is so messed up) Josh defied his father and Jim Bob is like an angry snake.

Michelle is a nut but I think she has a some kindness under there somewhere. Michelle is also damaged herself from getting involved with this Gothard mess, which Jim Bob led her into. her laundry room break down story makes me think that she is really suffering with some type of mental health issues.

I'm betting Jim Bob is going to make Josh pay for this...over and over again.

 

I can't help but agree with you, at least on Daddy Duggar.  Jim Bob has always reminded me of those guys who never quite got over not being cool enough/being teased in high school so they carry that grudge into their middle age and use it to motivate them.  For some reason, a lot of these types end up in local politics.  We all know how desperate JB is to be the alpha male, and now his heir apparent has shown that the Emperor has no clothes.  Any other political aspirations he may have held, even in the king-maker role, are officially dead.  There will not only be no further revenge on those jocks who stuffed him in a locker, he's a laughing stock, again.  

 

As for Michelle, I continually vacillate between her being calculating and her being just batshit insane, like clinically in need of a long-term residential therapy program as well as extensive and precise drug therapy.  That said, Josh was her first of very many children.  He might be the last vestige of her youth, from the time before she got talked into joining this crazy-ass cult and effectively lost control of her own body.  She may will be willing to go to battle to defend him regardless of what he's done for that reason alone.

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As for Michelle, I continually vacillate between her being calculating and her being just batshit insane, like clinically in need of a long-term residential therapy program as well as extensive and precise drug therapy.  That said, Josh was her first of very many children.  He might be the last vestige of her youth, from the time before she got talked into joining this crazy-ass cult and effectively lost control of her own body.  She may will be willing to go to battle to defend him regardless of what he's done for that reason alone.

I just don't see how a woman who was not brainwashed from birth could voluntarily subject herself to such a physically, emotionally and spiritually punishing existence without it being indicative of some sort of mental illness. At the very least, severe and chronic depression and a total absence of self-worth.

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I just don't see how a woman who was not brainwashed from birth could voluntarily subject herself to such a physically, emotionally and spiritually punishing existence without it being indicative of some sort of mental illness. At the very least, severe and chronic depression and a total absence of self-worth.

I agree, especially because she herself admitted to not having a "heart for children."

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I agree, especially because she herself admitted to not having a "heart for children."

I've always seen the obsessive and excessive birthing as a form of self-harm. Michelle has almost killed herself, literally, and it still didn't stop her from trying again. There is something seriously sick about that. Why on Earth would you put yourself at that much grave medical risk when you have NINETEEN EXISTING CHILDREN? For the glory of God? Was a single thought given to what would happen to those nineteen existing children if the devil had purposed to build a fortress around Michelle's brain and give her a stroke? 

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Hmmmm, any chance JB and Michelle are being blamed for letting a computer/smart phones into their home? WHen they first started out, wasn't it a total media-free zone?

I'm really surprised to see that some of the kids still have smart phones. I figured after the Josh scandals that all phones would have been taken away by the Boob.

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I'm really surprised to see that some of the kids still have smart phones. I figured after the Josh scandals that all phones would have been taken away by the Boob.

 

That doesn't make any sense to me either. I thought no one was allowed on the Internet without someone watching. Having a smart phone takes away the ability to watch the access.

The girls are allowed to have smart phones. Their skewed reasoning is that guys have sexual responses to pictures and females don't. Females are turned on by emotions. 

 

I'm actually am giggling out loud. That is just so effed up.

 

I just burst out laughing and scared my cat that was sitting on my laugh. Seriously - females don't have a sexual response to pictures. Hmmmm... I'll hand it to fundie women. They have definitely put one over on the men. 

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I just burst out laughing and scared my cat that was sitting on my laugh. Seriously - females don't have a sexual response to pictures. Hmmmm... I'll hand it to fundie women. They have definitely put one over on the men. 

True enough! Though, to be fair, it's not anything explicit that will do it. I think women (or at least me) will react just as strongly (and maybe more emotionally) to a male "countenance" without anything much more on display as a man will to a scantily clad female. Much easier to get away with!

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I think Anna already used what she considers her power.

She lost weight, put on a bit more make-up and job done!

Don't forget Anna's voice - she's working towards that quiet, softer MEchelle baby voice. She had it almost down pat in her TH's but her real voice emerged in the segment when she was packing to see Josh-U-a.

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Looks like Mr. Pariah McPasty might really have a Redemption Tour after all...get ready for it...

http://www.designntrend.com/articles/72568/20160323/19-kids-counting-people-angry-josh-duggars-rumored-new-job-dead-mom.htm

Is this a recent picture of Tater Head? Wow...Josh was never a looker, but how is it possible that he looks even more bloated and greasy?

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Looks like Mr. Pariah McPasty might really have a Redemption Tour after all...get ready for it...

http://www.designntrend.com/articles/72568/20160323/19-kids-counting-people-angry-josh-duggars-rumored-new-job-dead-mom.htm

Must be reading these boards.

 

"Critics of the Duggars believe that the public speaking tours are one step closer to the entire family  being put right back in the spotlight. "Jill and Jessa: Counting On" already feature nearly the entire family and Josh's wife and children. He's like some shadow lurking in the background of the spinoff's entire narrative."

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I've been driving the Redemption Tour bus since they revealed that he'd been sent to that stupid Jesus Jail. Boob may be pissed that 19 Kids got canceled, but he probably also saw his way out of the stupid "fire" by letting the Prodigal Son be fully reunited with the Duggar Brand .

This "fire" the Duggars keep referencing... they realize it's a self-imposed "fire", right? The entire media shitstorm is a result of their misdeeds. How can they not see that?

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I've been driving the Redemption Tour bus since they revealed that he'd been sent to that stupid Jesus Jail. Boob may be pissed that 19 Kids got canceled, but he probably also saw his way out of the stupid "fire" by letting the Prodigal Son be fully reunited with the Duggar Brand .

You called it, Sumi!

You were dead on!

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Absolutely a Redeption Tour. And a book.

There are a lot of people in troubled marriages that will think "hey, if Josh and Anna can make it, maybe we can too. Wonder how they did it?"

Josh will rise again but it will take some time. Too soon is no good. Jim Bob is slick...he is watching and waiting for the right moment and POW! The book is released. Then if the reception is good? Grab Jana and gas up the stink bus! Josh Duggar rides again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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This "fire" the Duggars keep referencing... they realize it's a self-imposed "fire", right? The entire media shitstorm is a result of their misdeeds. How can they not see that?

 

 

Because it's so much easier to blame Satan and his liberal-minded minions than take personal responsibility for the entire debacle.

​There are none so blind as those who will not see.  A saying from my childhood, yet pretty accurate here I'd say. 

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True enough! Though, to be fair, it's not anything explicit that will do it. I think women (or at least me) will react just as strongly (and maybe more emotionally) to a male "countenance" without anything much more on display as a man will to a scantily clad female. Much easier to get away with!

 

Granted, but this isn't a fundie conviction alone based upon women "being able to ignore" visuals.  I feel like I've spent half my life being told that men whose countenance the idea of as much as kissing, literally repulsed me; should be given a chance because it's the heart (and sometimes bank account), that counts, and not something as trivial as the arrangement of his facial features.  Women are in fact often being lectured and warned that handsome-faced men are dirty dogs, who will do them no good and only ever harm.  

 

... Largely, I will grant this has proven to be true.

 

...Then I think, Gee, it must suck to be a man with a handsome countenance and be shy and withdrawn, right?  These types of men want love too, and must exist out there.

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I think I found the job that King Boob has in mind for Smuggs

http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/Groom-of-the-Stool/

I think that Boob really despises his son right now. He's been conspicuously absent from talking heads and only Googly Eyes has made any posts. It must suck to be Smuggs right now.

As narcisstic as Boob is...I just don't see how he's keeping mum, being the attention whore that he is. Tabloid rumors are also running rampant that his and Googly's marriage is on the rocks thanks to Smuggs' behavior.

Not sure what happened to an earlier post I'd made. Maybe the mods moved it might not have had enuf Smuggs content.k

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Ok. I'm a not too frequent watcher of the past show & the (gag) newest one.

However, I have to report a .....drumroll...real Smuggar sighting!

Mr Jumbo & I & the littlest Jumbo were out in Springdale yesterday buying couches at a furniture store. I saw a bliond guy walk in & thought "he kind of looks like TFDW". Turned around & there was Anna holding M4. And I'm assuming that was her sister next to TFDW (or 2 of J & A's friends if I'm wrong).

I was trying not to obviously stare. Anna was decked out in leather jacket, knee length skirt & ankle booties & full makeup. She looked prettier & thinner than she does on tv. (Making me wonder if the rumor that she is trying to look good for Smugs is true). Smugger looked MUCH thinner than on tv. Maybe the stress is getting to him. They both looked happy & were passing the baby back & forth while they were talking with the other couple.

I'm sure they thought I was a heathen with my (gasp) pants & (gasp) short hair.

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Thank you, Mick's Picks! I was so engrossed in trying to keep up with just the Duggar topics here that I was getting eye strain from reading off of my phone & seriously neglecting the housework. So I took a break & occasionally pop on to try to catch up where I left off. These Duggar forums move much faster than other shows!

I can't tell you how disappointed I am that TLC is filling the Duggar coffers with another show. I thought it would have been a valuable lesson to the family to actually entertain the thought of having to get REAL jobs to provide for their families (& future families) instead of relying on famewhoring themselves on a reality show.

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Ok. I'm a not too frequent watcher of the past show & the (gag) newest one.

However, I have to report a .....drumroll...real Smuggar sighting!

Mr Jumbo & I & the littlest Jumbo were out in Springdale yesterday buying couches at a furniture store. I saw a bliond guy walk in & thought "he kind of looks like TFDW". Turned around & there was Anna holding M4. And I'm assuming that was her sister next to TFDW (or 2 of J & A's friends if I'm wrong).

I was trying not to obviously stare. Anna was decked out in leather jacket, knee length skirt & ankle booties & full makeup. She looked prettier & thinner than she does on tv. (Making me wonder if the rumor that she is trying to look good for Smugs is true). Smugger looked MUCH thinner than on tv. Maybe the stress is getting to him. They both looked happy & were passing the baby back & forth while they were talking with the other couple.

I'm sure they thought I was a heathen with my (gasp) pants & (gasp) short hair.

Josh probably lost weight at reform school, where his diet was controlled and he was without junk food.

 

I wish you could have snapped a picture!

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Ok. I'm a not too frequent watcher of the past show & the (gag) newest one.

However, I have to report a .....drumroll...real Smuggar sighting!

Mr Jumbo & I & the littlest Jumbo were out in Springdale yesterday buying couches at a furniture store. I saw a bliond guy walk in & thought "he kind of looks like TFDW". Turned around & there was Anna holding M4. And I'm assuming that was her sister next to TFDW (or 2 of J & A's friends if I'm wrong).

I was trying not to obviously stare. Anna was decked out in leather jacket, knee length skirt & ankle booties & full makeup. She looked prettier & thinner than she does on tv. (Making me wonder if the rumor that she is trying to look good for Smugs is true). Smugger looked MUCH thinner than on tv. Maybe the stress is getting to him. They both looked happy & were passing the baby back & forth while they were talking with the other couple.

I'm sure they thought I was a heathen with my (gasp) pants & (gasp) short hair.

Wow, that's the first confirmed Josh sighting I've heard about! I'm jealous but thanks for reporting! Could they tell you recognized them? And did anyone else seem to? I would have been very tempted to follow them around at an inconspicuous distance and try to listen in!

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I was trying not to obviously stare. Anna was decked out in leather jacket, knee length skirt & ankle booties & full makeup. She looked prettier & thinner than she does on tv. (Making me wonder if the rumor that she is trying to look good for Smugs is true).

 

So she was basically the fundie equivalent of Sandy at the End of Grease? 

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I was trying not to obviously stare. Anna was decked out in leather jacket, knee length skirt & ankle booties & full makeup. She looked prettier & thinner than she does on tv. (Making me wonder if the rumor that she is trying to look good for Smugs is true). Smugger looked MUCH thinner than on tv. Maybe the stress is getting to him. They both looked happy & were passing the baby back & forth while they were talking with the other couple.

I'm sure they thought I was a heathen with my (gasp) pants & (gasp) short hair.

Thanks for reporting in on the Smugs sighting. Too bad they weren't filming at the store or you may have ended up seeing Sierra as well. I can picture her showing up for whatever reason just to be on TV.

I still can't wrap my head around their way of thinking. Josh was the one who did wrong but Anna has been brainwashed it was her fault & she's the one who is expected to change & make their life better so he won't stray again. (Yeah, right.) I wonder what happens if the roles were reversed, that Anna did the stepping out. Would Josh-U-a be expected to change his looks & ways & be told it was his fault? I doubt it. Anna would be shunned & called out for doing this ungodly horrific thing to the family & kicked to the street. Case closed.

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The girls are allowed to have smart phones. Their skewed reasoning is that guys have sexual responses to pictures and females don't. Females are turned on by emotions. 

 

I'm actually am giggling out loud. That is just so effed up.

 

Females are turned on by "date nights", taking cutesy photos of themselves sharing a milkshake (or a frappuccino) with their husband, putting said photo through the appropriate filters and then posting them on Instagram with hashtags like #datenight #blessed #love.

 

Even though Boob has probably forbidden Joshie from ever owning a smartphone again, I'll bet he's spending every waking moment trying to figure out how to get his creepy hands on one. Josh is one sneaky bastard. He won't be able to purchase one in Tonitown or the surrounding areas, but I wouldn't put it past him to slap on a disguise, slink into a store and pay for a new iPhone in cash.

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 I wonder what happens if the roles were reversed, that Anna did the stepping out. Would Josh-U-a be expected to change his looks & ways & be told it was his fault? I doubt it. Anna would be shunned & called out for doing this ungodly horrific thing to the family & kicked to the street. Case closed.

Even worse. Anna wouldn't be shunned (assuming she herself didn't take the initiative to leave)--her life would become hell on Earth. Her "transgression" would be held over her head for the rest of her life, mark her with a scarlet letter, her family and cult would publicly humiliate her, hold her husband up as a godly example of a good Christian man who has to put up with a wayward female (no matter what role he may have played in her straying in the first place, from neglect to straight up physical and sexual abuse), and her already impossibly short leash would be strangling her. No six months in Jesus jail followed by a redemption tour and a husband who forgives like Jesus does for her. Guaranteed.

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Prepare yourselves for marriage counseling seminars led by Josh and Anna, where they share their secrets of rebuilding a marriage after a major crisis.  Fundie couples will pay hundreds of dollars to spend two days crammed into the sanctuary (or sanctinasium) of a megachurch to lap up their words of wisdom.  There will be merch tables in the lobby, including "his" repentance/testimony book about the road back, and the inevitable "jointly written" book about saving their marriage. (Both ghost-written, of course).  Possibly even a set of DVDs and a workbook with lesson and exercises based on extremely questionable biblical exegesis.

 

Some marketing executive with a Christian PR firm will be charged with coming up with a schmoopy but earnest catchphrase for the whole thing, like "Love Works" or "True Love Never Fails" or something equally ridiculous (probably recycling, but not really understanding, language from I Corinthians 13).  That phrase will be printed on bumper stickers, keychains, posters, T-shirts and bookmarks, also for purchase in the lobby.  They will team up with Christian bookseller Mardel to "write" and market daily devotional books and calendars on the theme of love and strong marriages.  They might even team up with a group of popular contemporary Christian singers/songwriters or bands out of Nashville who will put out an album with a collection of songs about the true meaning of Christian love, at least one song off which will be sung at every Fundie wedding for the next 10 years.

 

Trust me.  I've been in the (Fundie-adjacent) Christian church world for a looooong time.  It's coming.

You are fortunately brilliant and unfortunately spot on.

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Prepare yourselves for marriage counseling seminars led by Josh and Anna, where they share their secrets of rebuilding a marriage after a major crisis.  Fundie couples will pay hundreds of dollars to spend two days crammed into the sanctuary (or sanctinasium) of a megachurch to lap up their words of wisdom.  There will be merch tables in the lobby, including "his" repentance/testimony book about the road back, and the inevitable "jointly written" book about saving their marriage. (Both ghost-written, of course).  Possibly even a set of DVDs and a workbook with lesson and exercises based on extremely questionable biblical exegesis.

 

Some marketing executive with a Christian PR firm will be charged with coming up with a schmoopy but earnest catchphrase for the whole thing, like "Love Works" or "True Love Never Fails" or something equally ridiculous (probably recycling, but not really understanding, language from I Corinthians 13).  That phrase will be printed on bumper stickers, keychains, posters, T-shirts and bookmarks, also for purchase in the lobby.  They will team up with Christian bookseller Mardel to "write" and market daily devotional books and calendars on the theme of love and strong marriages.  They might even team up with a group of popular contemporary Christian singers/songwriters or bands out of Nashville who will put out an album with a collection of songs about the true meaning of Christian love, at least one song off which will be sung at every Fundie wedding for the next 10 years.

 

Trust me.  I've been in the (Fundie-adjacent) Christian church world for a looooong time.  It's coming.

 

And don't forget the ending of the cycle, when the public loses their fascination with them because they aren't pedaling anything new/interesting/Josh hasn't re-offended, all of this crap ends up at your local Dollar Tree, where it is fodder for joke birthday presents and White Elephant exchanges.

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Prepare yourselves for marriage counseling seminars led by Josh and Anna, where they share their secrets of rebuilding a marriage after a major crisis.  Fundie couples will pay hundreds of dollars to spend two days crammed into the sanctuary (or sanctinasium) of a megachurch to lap up their words of wisdom.  There will be merch tables in the lobby, including "his" repentance/testimony book about the road back, and the inevitable "jointly written" book about saving their marriage. (Both ghost-written, of course).  Possibly even a set of DVDs and a workbook with lesson and exercises based on extremely questionable biblical exegesis.

 

Some marketing executive with a Christian PR firm will be charged with coming up with a schmoopy but earnest catchphrase for the whole thing, like "Love Works" or "True Love Never Fails" or something equally ridiculous (probably recycling, but not really understanding, language from I Corinthians 13).  That phrase will be printed on bumper stickers, keychains, posters, T-shirts and bookmarks, also for purchase in the lobby.  They will team up with Christian bookseller Mardel to "write" and market daily devotional books and calendars on the theme of love and strong marriages.  They might even team up with a group of popular contemporary Christian singers/songwriters or bands out of Nashville who will put out an album with a collection of songs about the true meaning of Christian love, at least one song off which will be sung at every Fundie wedding for the next 10 years.

 

Trust me.  I've been in the (Fundie-adjacent) Christian church world for a looooong time.  It's coming.

I agree 100%.

Im an ex Fund (lite) and still have many friends who are Fund.

They will be snapping up the devotionals, self help books and Anna/josh's diary. Plus a calendar daily with marriage verses.

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