Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[Churchhoney]

Wait a minute, there's another woman?! I thought it was just this Danica chick. How am I so far behind?

 

Some other dame claimed it a few months ago. her story sank without much of a trace, though -- so far, at least -- so whether it's true, false, accurate or hyped is even more unknown.

http://www.ibtimes.com/josh-duggars-reputed-mistress-had-pregnancy-scare-after-unprotected-sex-during-ashley-2080241

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3221992/Second-mistress-Josh-Duggar-claims-suffered-pregnancy-scare-unprotected-sex-disgraced-star-goes-missing-Christian-rehab-clinic.html

[Marigold]

This is the tip of the iceberg. I bet Josh spents tons of money and time on his little "sin".

Josh truly is disgusting.

The entire Duggar clan, including Anna, need to permanently shun this piece of garbage.

[GeeGolly]

Sadly, JB and Michelle need to take part of the blame in what is going on with Josh, but he needs to take a hard long look at himself. Blaming others for what he did as a teenager and a grown man with a wife and kids is not going to help him. Man up Josh. If getting the treatment he may need and getting away from his parents and siblings is the best thing for him, he needs to do so. He went to D.C. to sell his family's political and religious beliefs. Sadly, I do not think he has his own original thoughts. Yes, his education and real life skills are lacking, but he is the one who can improve himself. He should not be expecting his parents, Anna, or Jesus to do it for him.

This is so true, yet JB & M need to realize their son is a grown ass man and give him the opportunity to man up. They continue to stunt his growth and responsibility at every turn. Josh reminds of a young celebrity with all this money, surrounded by yes men, without the brain development to handle it. Mom & pop need to back off and let Josh swim on his own for once.

[Aja]

This is so true, yet JB & M need to realize their son is a grown ass man and give him the opportunity to man up. They continue to stunt his growth and responsibility at every turn. Josh reminds of a young celebrity with all this money, surrounded by yes men, without the brain development to handle it. Mom & pop need to back off and let Josh swim on his own for once.

I'd also add that Josh simply isn't intelligent enough to think critically. While I do think that Josh has a lot of inherent doucheness that he was born with (most fourteen year-olds know that diddling their sisters is disgusting. Most husbands know that spending $2000 to nail a porn star while your pregnant wife is taking care of your other children is less than Godly,) I also do not see any possible way Josh could ever get himself out of this mess. It would need to involve self-awareness and a true desire/motivation to change, and Josh has neither.

[Churchhoney]

This is so true, yet JB & M need to realize their son is a grown ass man and give him the opportunity to man up. They continue to stunt his growth and responsibility at every turn. Josh reminds of a young celebrity with all this money, surrounded by yes men, without the brain development to handle it. Mom & pop need to back off and let Josh swim on his own for once.

 

Unfortunately, since they apparently view all their children (and grandchildren) merely as appendages of themselves, I doubt that this will happen. .... I think this is one of the consequences of their sick enmeshed ownership of their children. They don't really care for them or about them, but they don't view them as having any autonomy either. They exist merely as extensions of the parents' egos. I don't think Jim Bob and Michelle have any idea at all how to treat their children as actual human beings -- or even any idea that it would be important to do so.

[bigskygirl]

JB and Michelle think blaming the devil for their son's actions will solve the problem. 19 Delusions and Counting.

[lookeyloo]

Probably some of them would sleep with him for the fame of it "I slept with Josh Duggar" like he was some kind of prize.  

[Darknight]

Josh is so dumb. Seriously he has no common sense. And what's next a pregnancy by another woman? Josh did you forget unprotected sex leads to pregnancy and stds

[Purpose to defraud]

Wait a minute, there's another woman?! I thought it was just this Danica chick. How am I so far behind?

To be fair, Josh has had a busy time, scandal wise!

[BrianJ62]

Turnabout's fair play.

Karma is a *itch, Jared Fogle found that out today.

Edited November 19, 2015 by BrianJ62

[Tabbygirl521]

Josh truly is disgusting.

The entire Duggar clan, including Anna, need to permanently shun this piece of garbage.

At a brief glance, I thought this was a haiku.

[Churchhoney]

The lawsuit said that he spent $600 on admission plus lap dances, then $1,500 for sex with the porn star. $2,100 in one night. It appears that Josh spent a lot of money on his "issue". This thing goes a lot further than cheating on his wife. Josh has extreme problems. Child molestation of his sisters plus a babysitter that came to their house, followed by thousands of dollars to feed his problem. Josh is a real problem. I think it's in the family's best interest to cut him loose as though he never existed. He really is a sicko. Even if it was Michelle and Jim Bob's fault, in the interest of every single other person in the family, they all have to stay away from him. He will destroy them all.

 

Too late. Michelle and Jim Bob already destroyed them all. The kids -- and the public -- just don't know it yet.

Edited November 19, 2015 by Churchhoney

[ChocolateAddict]

I wonder if Josh ever regrets the show.  Sure it meant that there was an actual house to live in and he could get a holier-than-thou job but if it hadn't been for 19K&C, he could have molested his sisters, had affairs and thrown porn stars around without the world caring. 

 

He probably doesn't and is still blaming the evil media/Satan/whatever but it's nice to think that maybe, just maybe, one of the Duggar's might have some sort of brain.  

[Churchhoney]

Agreed. This is a passive aggressive masterpiece. The ultimate FU, Mom and Dad.

The Duggars seem to like to consider themselves as savers of souls for Jesus, but their firstborn is one of the most lost souls I've witnessed. I doubt Josh Duggar has even the faintest clue about who he is and what he wants. Passive aggressiveness seems the only tool he knows.

 

And ditto most of the rest of the family. Look at the passive aggressive fury that shows up in every damn one of Jessa's social-media posts. And the "sweet" sniping back and forth between her and Jill during the latest baby making period. Etc. This is what Michelle and Jim Bob hath wrought. And it ain't gonna get any better as the good life brought by reality tv slowly recedes from the grasp of the Duggar kids and hardly a one has anything of substance to replace it with, either materially or non-materially. The passive-aggressive Duggar war of the worlds is just beginning.

[JoanArc]

 

I think that they have to cut Josh loose before he hurts every single one of them any more than he has already.

Loose lips sink reality tv shows.

 

 

Some other dame claimed it a few months ago. her story sank without much of a trace, though -- so far, at least -- so whether it's true, false, accurate or hyped is even more unknown.

Paid off by Jim Bob - or more likely, someone with a DC reputation to protect.

[Churchhoney]

I think that Michelle and Jim Bob are scum balls. I think that they handled the entire Josh problem horrendously. I think that their belief system probably caused Josh's problem in the first place. However, he has caused them to lose their livelihood and still may cost them thousands and thousands of dollars more. Should all of the children suffer because Josh is screwed up? Should Josie, Jordan, or the other children pay the price for what Jim Bob, Michelle,, and Josh did? Should Josh's children? Even though Jim Bob and Michelle hold blame, you can't hurt them without hurting their innocent children and grandchildren. I think that they have to cut Josh loose before he hurts every single one of them any more than he has already.

 

Yeah, see the difference between your view and my view is that, in my view, Michelle and Jim Bob hurt those kids every single day, in multiple ways, and have done since each kid was born. I was raised by people that I think were very similar to the Duggars in some essential ways, so to me they represent a toxicity and spiritual damage that's incalculable -- to every single kid, compounded by every day those kids live with them. To me, all a disgusting stupid brother can add is some bad publicity for the family and the loss of some more money. Josh isn't enmeshed with those kids, brainwashing those kids, depriving those kids of knowledge and opportunity and autonomy when they don't even know it. He isn't convincing them that falsehood in communication, denying all of one's true feelings and manufacturing your life to look good for reality tv are virtues. When those are really things that destroy your soul and your ability to live like a normal human being, possibly for life. It's Michelle and Jim Bob who are doing all that really damaging crap. 

 

Meanwhile, Josh is nothing but a jerky passerby who may cost the family some money. And, frankly, if the loss of Duggar money motivated some of the older kids to get the hell out of that household, I'd  consider that a great benefit. And if the Josh scandal caused TLC to rethink their obvious plan to continue airing Duggar crap (although it won't, I'm sure), I'd think that was a huge benefit. The sooner they get off tv, the better for all of them, in my opinion. Beyond those external things, Josh has no power to "destroy" the family, in my opinion. The other kids don't seem to have much relationship with him. He doesn't seem to want much relationship with them. It's the people who are enmeshed with you who destroy you, not passersby.

 

Obviously, mileage varies on this.. To me, though, the world vastly vastly underestimates the evil Michelle and Jim Bob have perpetrated on all their kids and continue to perpetrate (along with TLC), and vastly overestimates how much harm can come to a kid from having a brother who slept with a prostitute. When it comes to money loss, for example, if Jim Bob and Michelle don't want to, they don't have to spend another dime on Josh. I fear that they probably will spend dimes, though -- but not because of their love for Josh but for the same reason they do everything -- to protect their "brand" and their ability to make money without working. In my opinion, there really is no reason for them to lose more money due to Josh. And to me the loss of the show wouldn't be the loss of a livelihood -- it'd be the loss of an evil serpent that's done nothing but help JB and M destroy their children!

Edited November 20, 2015 by Churchhoney

[JoanArc]

 

What do you think the solution is then?

Even really excellent shrinks would have a hard time fixing this family. IMO, being able to freely express feelings, desires, and autonomy would go a hell of a long way.

[Churchhoney]

I'm not being snarky, I am sincerely asking. What do you think the solution is then? Would the children be better off in foster care? Jim Bob and Michelle will never change their views.

 

Well, I think they really are in very bad trouble, and I'm not sure there is a solution. In my opinion, Michelle and Jim Bob have done a number on those kids that some of them -- maybe many of them -- never will be able to recover from.

 

For the older ones, I think the only possibility for improvement is leaving. And I don't think there's a chance in heck that any of them will leave as long as the tv show is there or has any possibility of being there. I truly think that only a money crunch and the complete end to the possibility of tv will alert some of those kids that they have to get out and do something on their own -- and will also possibly push Michelle and Jim Bob into grudgingly allowing it. Because as long as there's the ghost of a chance of a tv show or any media exposure, then they're going to bribe and bludgeon the kids into staying around to help bolster the family image and the kids will do it, both because they're very much controlled by their parents and because they'll have the hope of continued money and perks and, for some of them, the fame that they've come to enjoy and rely on.

 

Then, to me, if some of the older ones actually did leave as the media circus ended, they'd start finding something out about the world beyond the gates. And then there's a chance that they'd start communicating some of that to the younger kids. I do think M and JB are probably a bit worn out as controllers at this point, and I can see them not grasping quite as tightly as they may have in the past to keep the younger kids away from the influence of any older ones who may come to visit with some new ideas. And maybe some of the younger kids could start envisioning a different kind of life for themselves. And envisioning it is at least the start of trying to get it.

 

Unfortunately, I do think it's possible to mess up your children so badly that there's little hope of them ever really recovering. Josh is just an irritant that's truly irrelevant to 99.9 percent of what's gone wrong and is going wrong in that household, to me!

[wilsie]

 

Yeah, see the difference between your view and my view is that, in my view, Michelle and Jim Bob hurt those kids every single day, in multiple ways, and have done since each kid was born. I was raised by people that I think were very similar to the Duggars in some essential ways, so to me they represent a toxicity and spiritual damage that's incalculable -- to every single kid, compounded by every day those kids live with them. To me, all a disgusting stupid brother can add is some bad publicity for the family and the loss of some more money. Josh isn't enmeshed with those kids, brainwashing those kids, depriving those kids of knowledge and opportunity and autonomy when they don't even know it. He isn't convincing them that falsehood in communication, denying all of one's true feelings and manufacturing your life to look good for reality tv are virtues. When those are really things that destroy your soul and your ability to live like a normal human being, possibly for life. It's Michelle and Jim Bob who are doing all that really damaging crap.

 

Meanwhile, Josh is nothing but a jerky passerby who may cost the family some money. And, frankly, if the loss of Duggar money motivated some of the older kids to get the hell out of that household, I'd  consider that a great benefit. And if the Josh scandal caused TLC to rethink their obvious plan to continue airing Duggar crap (although it won't, I'm sure), I'd think that was a huge benefit. The sooner they get off tv, the better for all of them, in my opinion. Beyond those external things, Josh has no power to "destroy" the family, in my opinion. The other kids don't seem to have much relationship with him. He doesn't seem to want much relationship with them. It's the people who are enmeshed with you who destroy you, not passersby.

 

Obviously, mileage varies on this.. To me, though, the world vastly vastly underestimates the evil Michelle and Jim Bob have perpetrated on all their kids and continue to perpetrate (along with TLC), and vastly overestimates how much harm can come to a kid from having a brother who slept with a prostitute.

I didn't grow up with any of this and I couldn't agree with you more, churchhoney.

[Churchhoney]

I think that money matters when there are 25+ mouths to feed.

I agree that money matters! But how many adults do they have in that household who are now not doing any paying work?  JIm Bob could work harder -- he's spawned all these kids, so it's his duty to work! Michelle could work with him -- they could revive and try to grow the real estate business. They did it once! They could encourage John David to get a job that pays instead of having him be a hobby pilot so much of the time. Jana, Jinger, Ben, Josiah, etc., could be encouraged to work outside the home -- or make something or do something that non-Duggars would want to pay for or buy! .... There's no reason that a group of adults that size can't support themselves, especially because they're obviously starting out with a bit of a financial cushion from past earnings! (Jim Bob bought two airplanes in the past two to three years! He's got a bit of cash somewhere!)

 

ETA: (and they shouldn't spend one thin dime on Josh -- although they'll probably need to help Anna out some. Josh needs to go out and get a job in a car wash or whatever, keep his nose clean and work his way up, paying his own way and living within his means. Just like everybody else!)

Edited November 20, 2015 by Churchhoney

[NEGirl]

MyPeopleAreNordic - I think Josh was probably in charge of the money and gave Anna a weekly allowance.  I would bet she had no access to their checking/saving accounts.

[MarysWetBar]

If I was Anna - especially now with no income and living off of JimBob - I think I'd probably be most pissed off about that $2100. Seriously, even with the insane amount the FRC was paying him and the TLC money, $2100 is a lot for someone with four kids to spend on a night out at the strip club. It's not like Josh has Justin Beiber levels of money or anything. $2100 could have sent Josh (or Anna) to the community college for a semester, been put away for a rainy day (like recent days), or put into some sort of college fund for the M kids so they could get the educations their dad always wanted for himself. Heck, it could have bought Meredith many pairs of impractical overpriced boots to wear throughout her child and kept all the kids in new Gymboree clothes until they grew out of the store's sizes. Several season tickets for Razorbacks games could also have been purchased with that money.

If going to the strip club and spending a couple thousand a night was a regular occurrence, I'd be livid if I was Anna. And Josh definitely could have gotten a four year public college degree for the money he was spending at the strip coin if he was going several times a month throughout his marriage.

Do you all think Anna had no access to their banking info to check the balances? Even if Josh paid with cash, she'd have to have noticed that a lot of cash withdrawals were made and wonder what was up. Or did Josh have some sly excuse? Or did he control all the financials for the family and gave Anna an allowance to fund the household with?

Likely those sweeet saweeeeeeet TLC dolla dolla bills.

Perhaps he had his own contract for their little family. Lookin over legal contracts ain't wimmins work. She likely had zero clues what they were making. He could have told her nothing. .his daddy did the banking. Remember? Slyyyyyy

Edited November 20, 2015 by MarysWetBar

[MarysWetBar]

At a brief glance, I thought this was a haiku.

[Purpose to defraud]

I'm not being snarky, I am sincerely asking. What do you think the solution is then? Would the children be better off in foster care? Jim Bob and Michelle will never change their views.

I think that money matters when there are 25+ mouths to feed.

Money matters to us all. That doesn't mean we deserve a tv show. Most of us work.

[Wellfleet]

Josh should have just had an affair at work like everyone else does. Spending thousands of dollars on trashy porn stars is crazy.

Did he in fact leave RU or is this just a rumor? Locating Josh is like finding that elusive Sasquatch in the forest. Every time we think we're close, he slips by us yet again...

I think we're going to need to charter a 747 for our one-way trip to hell. I'm not sure a bus can hold us all.

 

This is what I wonder too. Has Josh really hauled his bee-hind - or is this just conjecture? No one really seems to know. At the rate we're going, I honestly think this forum will know before any of the tabloids. We have some awesomely-skilled and intrepid hunters in this group.

[BitterApple]

Wellfleet, we do have some amazing Internet detectives on this board! Maybe we should leave a pile of Chik-fil-a sandwiches underneath one of those old fashioned cage traps and see if we can lure Joshie out of hiding.

[Arwen Evenstar]

Agree! People that don't have an issue with  porn do not have their computers filled with it. A site or two in their search history not THOUSANDS of saved videos. Josh's computer must be filled to the brim. Yikes!

And.....the keyboard is likely very sticky !

Ewwwwwwwwww!

II'm off to the prayer closet...that visual was just too deeply disturbing...

[cmr2014]

I think Jim Bob is going to pay off Danica to shut her up and then he drop Josh like a bag of rocks. Josh will be hidden away in the attic like they did years ago to the "crazy uncle".

In a few years, Josh will emerge with a book. But that's a long way in the future. For now, Joshie will be on lock down until Jim Bob can get the Duggar brand up and moving again.

 

It occurred to me that this may have nothing to do with $500,000. Since the sex was consensual -- and happened twice -- and there was no police involvement, I think she would have a hard time making a case. But, suppose her lawyers fees were being paid by a tabloid, and that tabloid was promising to pay her for every deposition that she leaked to them? I don't think that JB would pay her $25 to go away -- he's just too cheap.

 

I think that Josh is 100% the most likely to write a book at this point, and I think that JB and J'chelle know it. I think that's the only leverage he has right now, but it's pretty solid. JB and J'chelle will pay up to keep up the appearance of a loving family and a reformed Josh.

[Arwen Evenstar]

Joshua Duggar

Smug doughy homophobe prick

Sly dirty dog man

That's t! We could start a new topic called "Smugku"....dedicated to the Duggars and Smuggar and extended family.

Chick-Fil-a sandwich

Favorite meal of Smuggar

Greasy just like him

Right behind Prissy

Fabulous David Waller

That sly pecan thief

Vapid selfie queen

Totally full of herself

All hail Queen Jessa

Wannabe preacher

Screaming fire and brimstone whilst

Wielding toilet brush

There's Me-Chelle Duggar

Googly eyes rolling around

Lights on...no one home

Always on her back

Spitting out 19 "blessings"

Clown car vagina

Poor Cinderella

Doomed to life of servitude

Free Jana Duggar!

Good wives are always

Joyfully available

So say them fundies

Hope you all enjoy

Edited November 20, 2015 by Arwen Evenstar

[Tabbygirl521]

That's t! We could start a new topic called "Smugku"....dedicated to the Duggars and Smuggar and extended family.

Chick-Fil-a sandwich

Favorite meal of Smuggar

Greasy just like him

Right behind Prissy

Fabulous David Waller

That sly pecan thief

Vapid selfie queen

Totally full of herself

All hail Queen Jessa

Wannabe preacher

Screaming fire and brimstone whilst

Wielding toilet brush

There's Me-Chelle Duggar

Googly eyes rolling around

Lights on...no one home

Always on her back

Spitting out 19 "blessings"

Clown car vagina

Poor Cinderella

Doomed to life of servitude

Free Jana Duggar!

Good wives are always

Joyfully available

So say them fundies

Hope you all enjoy

I LOVE YOU.

[mimionthebeach]

$2100.00 would buy an awwwwwwful lot of tater tots.

Hell, with that much money you could get enough ground turkey to cover the bottom of the pan!

[Arwen Evenstar]

Wouldn't that be the stomping of flip-flops? ;)

LOL...you stole my thunder....just don't steal my pecans. :-)

[penguinnj]

Personally. I think this is too pull the spotlight off Joshie

 

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/anna-duggar-called-out-for-baby-daughters-outfit-161122144.html

[Arwen Evenstar]

Aw thanks for your post Tabby girl! I'm really enjoying this forum and its witty posts...it has become my favorite guilty pleaure and I've been blown away by the number of likes and quotes since I joined up less than two weeks ago. Thanks and much love.

[kokapetl]

What did M1 wear at that age?

[Henri205]

That's t! We could start a new topic called "Smugku"....dedicated to the Duggars and Smuggar and extended family.

Chick-Fil-a sandwich

Favorite meal of Smuggar

Greasy just like him

Right behind Prissy

Fabulous David Waller

That sly pecan thief

Vapid selfie queen

Totally full of herself

All hail Queen Jessa

Wannabe preacher

Screaming fire and brimstone whilst

Wielding toilet brush

There's Me-Chelle Duggar

Googly eyes rolling around

Lights on...no one home

Always on her back

Spitting out 19 "blessings"

Clown car vagina

Poor Cinderella

Doomed to life of servitude

Free Jana Duggar!

Good wives are always

Joyfully available

So say them fundies

Hope you all enjoy

Thank you for this. 'Vapid selfie queen'. You nailed it.

[cheatincheetos]

Agree! People that don't have an issue with  porn do not have their computers filled with it. A site or two in their search history not THOUSANDS of saved videos. Josh's computer must be filled to the brim. Yikes!

19 Gig and counting.

For tax purposes would that go under fun & entertainment or religion?

Healthcare. Joshy has "needs".

[cheatincheetos]

Show whole sinful world

Righteous humping on golf course

Don't leave, cameras!

[Micks Picks]

There is a whole section called 19 parodies and counting that the poems and songs would fit into quite nicely. It seems a little misplaced here, but do check out the parody site.

[SinInTheCamp]

Good point, Micks Picks! Moving my "Smug-ku" there. :)

Edited November 20, 2015 by SinInTheCamp

[BitterApple]

I wonder if Anna will appear in the specials or whether the Duggars are going to act like that branch of the family doesn't exist.

[kokapetl]

If Josh returns before the shows air, and assuming she sticks with him, she won't be received well by the audience for her choice, so no appearances if he does return. If the shows air while he's still wherever, she might appear on the show, she can be presented as a wife who's separated from her husband and still deciding what to do.

Edited November 20, 2015 by Kokapetl

[becca3891]

Probably some of them would sleep with him for the fame of it "I slept with Josh Duggar" like he was some kind of prize.  

I doubt they knew who he was. Viewership for their show was what, in the single digits of millions? Out of over 300 million people in the US, the odds are way against any given person recognizing him, especially out of context, without any of the recognizable big brood with him.

[Churchhoney]

It occurred to me that this may have nothing to do with $500,000. Since the sex was consensual -- and happened twice -- and there was no police involvement, I think she would have a hard time making a case. But, suppose her lawyers fees were being paid by a tabloid, and that tabloid was promising to pay her for every deposition that she leaked to them? I don't think that JB would pay her $25 to go away -- he's just too cheap.

 

I think that Josh is 100% the most likely to write a book at this point, and I think that JB and J'chelle know it. I think that's the only leverage he has right now, but it's pretty solid. JB and J'chelle will pay up to keep up the appearance of a loving family and a reformed Josh.

 

And the $500,000 is just a placeholder and wishful thinking, anyway, is it not? Under the circumstances, I have a hard time seeing a jury (or judge) awarding her that much when she agreed to have sex with the same guy again after this presumed traumatic event. ... I've been on some civil-trial juries with damages involved and the jury doesn't even know what the person is asking for. They decide on the awards entirely on their own. Is it different in Arkansas? I can't see her looking half-a-million worth of sympathetic to a jury, in this case.

[Arwen Evenstar]

Good point, Micks Picks! Moving my "Smug-ku" there. :)

Thanks Micks Picks...I came up with some new ones so I'll put future Smugku there...but later this evening or tomorrow. :-)

[Tabbygirl521]

Would anyone sleep with Josh on purpose, hoping for fame? I would worry about being perceived as the slut who seduced the good Christian married man.

[Almost 3000]

I doubt they knew who he was. Viewership for their show was what, in the single digits of millions? Out of over 300 million people in the US, the odds are way against any given person recognizing him, especially out of context, without any of the recognizable big brood with him.

I agree not everyone knows who the Duggars are. Perhaps moreso now that they are infamous but when Smuggar was trolling around not so much. It becomes clear to me when I talk about them, which isn't really often but for here that I usually get a blank look when I mention them.

That said, who would want a doughy looking cheap balding guy for a quicky?

[bigskygirl]

Attention 19 Kids and Counting forum posters: This thread is for discussion of the Josh and Anna Smuggar universe not Charlie Sheen, his HIV diagnosis, and who slept with him after he knew he was seriously ill. Take this discussion to another place in the internet universe or your post will be hidden or deleted by the mods. Thank you.

[Churchhoney]

Would anyone sleep with Josh on purpose, hoping for fame? I would worry about being perceived as the slut who seduced the good Christian married man.

 

Well, if you were a fame whore of Duggar proportions and knew that the persona you already had would be despised by the conservative Christian community anyway, you might well do it. And I think there are probably a lot of people like that!  (Oh, and you'd also have to be very very non-squeamish and completely without standards when it came to sex partners. Because Josh.)

Edited November 20, 2015 by Churchhoney

[truthtalk2014]

Personally. I think this is too pull the spotlight off Joshie

 

https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/anna-duggar-called-out-for-baby-daughters-outfit-161122144.html

I have a feeling that cousin Amy gave that outfit to Meredith.  I love it that she is being held by Dillion - who has trash talked Josh.  Perfect!