Jeopardy! Season 33 (2016-2017)

[operalover]

I find it very interesting how this FJ clue was an instaget for so many people--when I never in my life heard of this book! How does something so so famous, one of these "tipping point" type subjects, miss some people? I am an educated person and I have a Master's degree. I enjoy researching and learning about all sorts of topics. I usually get the FJ. I remember the first Earth Day in 1970 when I was ten years old.

When I heard the clue I knew it was going to be something very famous. Yet when I heard the answer I never heard the name of this book! I have since looked it up and now I know all about it. Isn't that odd? I don't know if this makes me one big dummy or I just missed Silent Spring somehow in my lifetime.

Oh and Silent Spring and On the Origin of Species- NO THE!! now we know!

[peeayebee]

5 minutes ago, operalover said:

I find it very interesting how this FJ clue was an instaget for so many people--when I never in my life heard of this book! ... I remember the first Earth Day in 1970 when I was ten years old.

It IS interesting how some info just passes us by. I'm just 1 year older than you, yet I learned about Silent Spring. I'm not exactly sure when, but I was an English major, so maybe the book came up in my college classes.

[Browncoat]

I was a Biology major -- Silent Spring was required reading for us back in the 80s.  Of course it was an instaget for me.

Glad Shannon's gone, and I'm also glad he got a BMS for Oriole.  There are several species, after all.  Agree that there should have been a BMS for Jones.

TS I remember getting include Concord, Mockingbird, 29, Monaco and jitterbug.

I have no idea when (or if!) I'll get to see tonight's and tomorrow night's games -- I might just give up for the rest of the week.  I am so glad that next week we return to a normal schedule!

[Roaster]

Hey!  A category about Men Authors.  Maybe they've heard the criticism about categories called Women Authors.

In contrast to Alex, only one name occurred to me when I saw the FJ clue.  That name was Helen Keller.

Doug's final wager was $0.  Which means if Hunter had responded correctly we would have had a tie.  There hasn't been a tie in several years, since they put in the new tie-breaking rule.

[ClareWalks]

17 minutes ago, Roaster said:

In contrast to Alex, only one name occurred to me when I saw the FJ clue.  That name was Helen Keller.

Me too, I instantly guessed Helen Keller because I was like, "hmmm, a blind, frequently-quoted woman?" And that was the only one I could envision.

[Moose135]

22 minutes ago, Roaster said:

In contrast to Alex, only one name occurred to me when I saw the FJ clue.  That name was Helen Keller.

Same here, couldn't figure out who the other one Alex was talking about, I had no idea Emily Dickinson was blind.

 

And that was the only one I could envision.

I see what you did there. ;-)

Edited October 20, 2016 by Moose135

[mojoween]

Helen Keller was the only name I thought of also.

I'm so sad Hunter flamed out.  I loved his story so very very much.

I thought the champ should have bet a buck but my husband said no.

I appreciate that they put a crawl on the screen that said that during the World Series Jeopardy! will be on an hour earlier.  Whether I remember that is another story.

Edited October 21, 2016 by mojoween

[secnarf]

28 minutes ago, Moose135 said:

Same here, couldn't figure out who the other one Alex was talking about, I had no idea Emily Dickinson was blind.

I didn't either, so I googled it. Apparently she wasn't, just had some eye issues that were eventually cured.

[ClareWalks]

Not a lot of famous blind women in history, although Professor Google told me one I didn't know about: Harriet Tubman.

[PaulaO]

D'OH. FJ could not have been more obvious.  Instaget.

Hunter annoyed me with his swaying.

[Trey]

Congrats to the new champ.  I see he was hoping for a tie - too bad Hunter got it wrong.

Thanks for googling about Emily Dickinson,  secnarf. Now I don't have to:)

I can't say FJ was an instaget because I have a hard time remembering Helen Keller's name

My only ts's were Henry Hudson and Hello Dolly.

[CarpeDiem54]

Congrats to Doug.  Hunter was smart and good looking but his swaying made me dizzy.

I got Committee on Aging, Hello Dolly and Hocus Pocus.

FJ was an instaget.  Emily Dickinson wasn't blind so I don't know why Alex said that.

[GreekGeek]

Maybe people thought of Emily Dickinson because of her famous poem that starts, "Because I could not stop for Death..."

Mother Teresa was a puzzling guess also, unless you take "be able to see" metaphorically. Religious writings often use blindness and sight that way.

Nonetheless, Helen Keller was the only name I thought of as well.

[peeayebee]

Helen Keller never occurred to me. I didn't take the line about being able to see literally; I thought it was like seeing the meaning of life and all that. I thought Emily Dickinson, Virginia Woolf, or Mary Baker Eddy. I went with Woolf.

I got a few TSs. Hello Dolly, Hocus Pocus, Letters from Iwo Jima, Damascus... I think a couple of others that now escape me.

[Mystery Author]

I'm so pissed off they didn't finish the Bette Midler category. Got Helen Keller. And when Men Authors popped up, I turned to Mr. Author and said, "Hah! They've been reading my forum!"

[ClareWalks]

I am not an English professor or anything, but isn't Women Authors and Men Authors terrible phrasing? Why not Female Authors or Male Authors? I feel like "women" and "men" are not stand-alone adjectives, ever. You wouldn't say men bathroom, for example, you'd say men's bathroom.

[operalover]

men's bathroom is the possessive so that is not a good example.  It is not men's authors either! but I agree male would sound better.

[ClareWalks]

14 minutes ago, operalover said:

men's bathroom is the possessive so that is not a good example.  It is not men's authors either! but I agree male would sound better.

Yeah, I know, I was trying to come up with any way in which "men" would be a modifier but it ain't an adjective, haha. Fail! I blame my lack of coffee.

[Good Queen Jane]

Actually, the title of the category was "Books By Men." And I too thought that the writers have been reading this forum.

[DoubleUTeeEff]

14 hours ago, peeayebee said:

Helen Keller never occurred to me. I didn't take the line about being able to see literally; I thought it was like seeing the meaning of life and all that. I thought Emily Dickinson, Virginia Woolf, or Mary Baker Eddy. I went with Woolf.

After reading this thread I feel like a dolt for not taking the "see" literally.  I thought of Dickinson but went with Woolf because of the number of times room was in that clue.

[operalover]

Do you think anyone in their 20's even knows who Helen Keller is? She lived from 1880-1968. I remember being so very fascinated with her as a kid. I read the book on the story of her life. I would try to imagine what being both blind and deaf would be like!

[alias1]

16 hours ago, GreekGeek said:

Maybe people thought of Emily Dickinson because of her famous poem that starts, "Because I could not stop for Death..."

 

That's exactly why I thought of Emily Dickinson.  Helen Keller was not anywhere on my radar. 

 

35 minutes ago, DoubleUTeeEff said:

After reading this thread I feel like a dolt for not taking the "see" literally.

Me too.

I like the new champ.  He seems very smart and no annoying mannerisms.  I even liked his quip back to Alex that if you don't answer a question you don't lose any money (ha ha).  Nice sense of humor.

[Trey]

1 hour ago, DoubleUTeeEff said:

After reading this thread I feel like a dolt for not taking the "see" literally.  I thought of Dickinson but went with Woolf because of the number of times room was in that clue.

I got this FJ. but I have so many times misread, misunderstood or just plain went off in the wrong direction and totally missed the correct answer.  So, no need to feel like dolt - we've all done it some time or another:)

[secnarf]

1 hour ago, operalover said:

Do you think anyone in their 20's even knows who Helen Keller is? She lived from 1880-1968. I remember being so very fascinated with her as a kid. I read the book on the story of her life. I would try to imagine what being both blind and deaf would be like!

Speaking as someone in their 20s, I'd call it pretty basic information. I'd be shocked to find someone my age who had never heard of her.

[DrScottie]

10 minutes ago, secnarf said:

Speaking as someone in their 20s, I'd call it pretty basic information. I'd be shocked to find someone my age who had never heard of her.

Yeah, Helen Keller is fairly standard knowledge, but it basically stops after the Miracle Worker. A lot of people don't realize that she was a very active socialist in the early 20th century. She was also the one who brought the Akita dog (last night's Jeopardy! clue) to the US.  They left those out when I learned about her in middle school.

[operalover]

1 hour ago, secnarf said:

Speaking as someone in their 20s, I'd call it pretty basic information. I'd be shocked to find someone my age who had never heard of her.

It's good to know because I always loved her story. As someone with 20 year old sons, it is interesting to me what is common knowledge to one generation is less so for another. I remember my parents always knowing the names of certain actors and I would be impressed, but now I impress my sons the same way. 

[PaulaO]

That's so cool about Helen Keller and Akitas.

[Spunkygal]

David McCullough was a TS??????????

[secnarf]

Wow I totally guessed on FJ, Swiss guard, based only on St Peter's Square and therefore something to do with the Vatican. Colour me surprised.

I haven't really cared too much about any of the contestants lately.

[Browncoat]

Just watched Thursday's game -- FJ was an instaget, though I could see how someone might guess Emily Dickinson. 

Hunter's swaying got old after a bit, so I'm glad Doug won.  Plus, Doug reminded me a lot of an older Robert Culp, which is a good thing.  :)

So sad that I likely won't get to see tonight's (Friday's) game.  But y'all can keep me up to date! 

[CarpeDiem54]

Congrats to Lani.

The only TS I got was Christa McAuliffe.

I was a slack-jawed moron for FJ.

[mojoween]

Oh I didn't watch and now I really want to know what FJ was.

How was Christa McAuliffe a TS?  Was the clue super obscure?

[biakbiak]

FJ was an instaget not only for where they started but where they ended up.

[secnarf]

11 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Oh I didn't watch and now I really want to know what FJ was.

It was: In 2006 for the 500th anniversary of this group, members trekked from the canton of Ticino to St Peter's Square.

[biakbiak]

8 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Oh I didn't watch and now I really want to know what FJ was.

How was Christa McAuliffe a TS?  Was the clue super obscure?

I don't remember the exact wording but it was a daily double in the category Mcpeople about an asetroid beearing the name of this NH teacher. So I thought it was super easy.

[mojoween]

Wow.  Astronaut, teacher and NH?  What else could it have been?

The only thing I can think of for FJ is Hare Krishna.

[biakbiak]

3 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Wow.  Astronaut, teacher and NH?  What else could it have been?

The only thing I can think of for FJ is Hare Krishna.

Astroid not Astronaut but still super easy when you add in it was people with Mc names.

FJ is the  Swiss Guard. 

Edited October 22, 2016 by biakbiak

[YoureSoUrban]

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Wow I totally guessed on FJ, Swiss guard, based only on St Peter's Square and therefore something to do with the Vatican. Colour me surprised.

That was my guessing process as well; I'm happy for us both!

The only TS I got was springboard, and like lots of folks I got the McAuliffe DD.

They probably could have cleared the first board if Alex hadn’t been gushing over Lani. I thought she was good too but yeesh, keep it moving!

Going back a game, I was psyched to see a Letters from Iwo Jima clue because I am a huge fan of Ken Watanabe. He hasn't tweeted anything in over a year (of course I follow him anyway) otherwise I would have tweeted the clue to him, and he would have responded and ask me to move to Tokyo and we'd live happily ever after...

I'll see myself out.

[Mystery Author]

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Wow I totally guessed on FJ, Swiss guard, based only on St Peter's Square

And I guessed Swiss Guard because of the canton of Ticino :)

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They probably could have cleared the first board if Alex hadn’t been gushing over Lani.

And if Doug hadn't nattered on and on (and on) like the Energizer Bunny!

[teebax]

On 10/21/2016 at 7:32 PM, mojoween said:

Oh I didn't watch and now I really want to know what FJ was.

How was Christa McAuliffe a TS?  Was the clue super obscure?

I think the contestant knew who she was but just messed up her name.  He gave an answer that was close, but I can't remember now what he said.

[M. Darcy]

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Do you think anyone in their 20's even knows who Helen Keller is?

A part of me hopes that kids today still tell Helen Keller jokes.  They are so wrong but such a part of being a stupid kid.

[ClareWalks]

2 hours ago, M. Darcy said:

A part of me hopes that kids today still tell Helen Keller jokes.  They are so wrong but such a part of being a stupid kid.

To this day, whenever there's a really obvious twist in a TV show or movie, I say "Helen Keller could have seen that coming!" Yeah, I am going to hell ;)

[secnarf]

I am sad nobody got Laverne Cox.

[Browncoat]

Good grief!  Was Lani that slow in picking clues in Friday's game?  Good for her win, though.  Norm pissed me off the first time he chose a clue -- from the middle of the damn category.  And then he made it worse in DJ.

I went too general on FJ -- the hazards of being a Biologist, I suppose -- and said monotreme.  Oh well!

I did, however, manage to get Laverne Cox, Joe Theismann (I will never forget the sound his leg made when it broke), and greenstick.

Edited October 25, 2016 by Browncoat

[CarpeDiem54]

I don't remember Lani giggling constantly on Friday, but congrats to her.  I would have been happy with Susan winning, though.  Norm, I might have overlooked your Taliban beard and hipster ponytail, but starting in the middle killed your chances with me.

I don't know what Norm said for his DD but it sure didn't sound like Azores to me.

I got Tinkerbell, Nelson Rockefeller, Joe Theisman (I amost puked watching that) and Kiri Te Kanawa.

I guessed platypus for FJ knowing I was wrong.

[Moose135]

13 minutes ago, CarpeDiem54 said:

I guessed platypus for FJ knowing I was wrong.

Me too - I didn't really think it fit the first half of the clue, but I didn't know what else it could be.  When Alex said there were two mammals that laid eggs, I knew I must have picked the wrong one.

[Jesse]

Echidna came to me in a rush after the full [however long they get] of going, "How is it platypus? How is that a character from Greek mythology? Duck-billed platypus?????"

[Prevailing Wind]

Uh-oh. You guys are mentioning answers that I don't remember. I tried SO hard not to fall asleep, but... I DID awake in time for FJ & for some unknown reason, echidna popped into my head immediately. I don't even know what an echidna is. Must've been one of those Power Naps that helps your brain power. LOL.

[peeayebee]

1 hour ago, Jesse said:

Echidna came to me in a rush after the full [however long they get] of going, "How is it platypus? How is that a character from Greek mythology? Duck-billed platypus?????"

I guessed platypus. I basically went by 'weird mammal.' How is echidna more of a Greek mythology animal?

I got Theismann -- *shudder* -- Tivo, baccarat, and Leontyne Price.

Aida!

I said Thumbelina instead of Tinkerbell. I said "Orange is the New Black" before Alex finished reading the clue, and then I couldn't pull Laverne Cox's name out in time. 

[ottoDbusdriver]

They showed a picture of LBJ in the Veep category, and were asked to name him.  Come on.

Aida was the answer for a clue --- yet again.  They have to get another go to clue for opera.

I was surprised greenstick was a TS.

I am so glad 'Peron' got a BMS and the champ got it wrong.  Finally !!!

6 minutes ago, peeayebee said:

I guessed platypus. I basically went by 'weird mammal.' How is echidna more of a Greek mythology animal?

The animal itself is not involved in Greek Mythology -- but 'echidna' is the name of a monster in Greek Mythology.
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echidna_(mythology)