S08.E13: Steel Calzones

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, motorcitymom65 said:

They have to take several seats when they want to make something part of their storyline and then don't want it discussed except in the way in which they want it discussed. Forget the show; life doesn't work like that. I said the same thing last year when Beth wanted to talk about how hard it all was being alone raising her daughter, but then seemed to take offense when anyone asked her a question about how hard it must be (namely Heather). 

Jules wanted to make her ED part of her story. Maybe the main part of her story. She wanted to talk about it. Carole said that the first time she heard about the ED was on camera. Jules never said anything to her about it when the cameras weren't rolling and was clearly up for the conversation. She has said she is very open about it. The others are giving her what she seemed to want in the way that they are giving her the opportunity to discuss something that she said she wanted to discuss. 

Is talking behind someone's back nice? Not at all. But I would have to struggle very, very hard to find a single person I know who wouldn't have started yapping about what had just happened the minute Jules walked away. That was some seriously fucked up shit going on in that restaurant. They weren't talking about something secretive or private. They were talking about what they had just seen, which was on camera. They were discussing what they thought about what had just happened on camera. 

Her ED is very sad, and clearly she is in the middle of it. I feel exactly the same way about this that I did Kim and her supposed recovery. You cannot come on the show, want to make something your storyline, then do something strange on camera, and expect for others to not comment on what they just saw. It doesn't work like this on reality TV, or in the real world. 

I don't think Jules wanted to make ED her storyline this season at all, I think she did so hoping that Bethenny would back off. It was Bethenny that brought it up that the very first time she met Jules and she and Carole have continued to used it as something to beat Jules over the head about. They could care less about Jules other than Bethenny taking an instant dislike to her because, according to Bethenny, she "looks" so much like Bethenny's estranged mother, who B hates with a sick passion.

1 hour ago, Umbelina said:

I didn't see it as rude OR as catty though.  Carole was asking questions.  They were all shocked by her behavior, filmed behavior, later and talked about it.

Not loving or hating any of them allows a certain objectivity, and frankly, none of these women are worth that much investment of emotion to me.  They are simply selling themselves for my entertainment, for money, or for fame, or for whatever reasons they have individually.  The more they mix it up, the more fun I have as they sell their souls.  Bring it on!

Carole wasn't just "asking" questions, she was challenging Jules.

[parisprincess]

I previously stated that Bethanny doesn't want her personal life to be on the show. I should have been more clear. Although she over shares on some things, we never heard a peep about her former boyfriend (who I read had a somewhat unsavory background), nor did we hear about the married guy until Bethany realized it was going to come out in the media. I'm sure the other women knew about the previous guy and probably the new one too, but it was never brought up. Wonder why, when Beth accused Luann of being the biggest slut around, Luann didn't bring up Beth's own background. I'm sure it was because it was made off limits since Andy has his head as far up Bethanny's ass as Carol does.

if I worked with someone, had a fallout with them, and decided I didn't care to have a relationship with them, I'll be damned if I'd put up with people pushing me to "have coffee" and try to repair a relationship I didn't care to pursue. Ramona should back off. It's not her place to try to broker a deal between two people who don't want it.

[zoeysmom]

7 minutes ago, parisprincess said:

I previously stated that Bethanny doesn't want her personal life to be on the show. I should have been more clear. Although she over shares on some things, we never heard a peep about her former boyfriend (who I read had a somewhat unsavory background), nor did we hear about the married guy until Bethany realized it was going to come out in the media. I'm sure the other women knew about the previous guy and probably the new one too, but it was never brought up. Wonder why, when Beth accused Luann of being the biggest slut around, Luann didn't bring up Beth's own background. I'm sure it was because it was made off limits since Andy has his head as far up Bethanny's ass as Carol does.

if I worked with someone, had a fallout with them, and decided I didn't care to have a relationship with them, I'll be damned if I'd put up with people pushing me to "have coffee" and try to repair a relationship I didn't care to pursue. Ramona should back off. It's not her place to try to broker a deal between two people who don't want it.

Ramona thinks she is a mediator. It is a joke, the first thing she did was slam Carole to try and get Luann to follow her plan. 

Last year it was all about Ramona and being "The Apologizer" it wasn't a compliment, it was an observation over how Ramona takes zero accountability for her actions and solves issues with an insincere apology.  If Ramona was truly trying to be an arbiter of peace she would leave her feelings out of the situation.  What Ramona wants most of all is a freebie girls' trip.  It is not about camaraderie, it is always about Ramona and her needs to be someplace where she is unknown and can freely offend. When I think of Ramona I think of a liar, a cheater and a thief.  The idea she stabs Luann, Dorinda and Sonja in the back and then continually worms her way back into their lives by declaring solidarity is quite frankly laughable.  So her riding the fence between Luann and Carole or Luann and Bethenny, she is out of her league.  Ramona offers us a birthday party each year and a production fueled party.  Ramona has no soul or substance. 

[RHJunkie]

Just catching up on the episode. Jules' eating behaviours are uncomfortable to watch but so is listening to Carole and Bethenny pretend to be that concerned about her. It seems like they're concerned more for the sake of having something to talk to other people about. I thought there was great irony in Carole's sunken, skeletal looking face talking about weight loss and eating issues with Jules. I doubt Carole's intentions and example of that is when she was retelling the story to Heather, she made it seem like she easily and quickly accepted Jules explanation of being naturally skinny. That's not how it was at all. She outwardly doubted that by mentioning Jules' body and talking about on numerous occasions in her THs. However, I find the dynamic between Carole and Heather to be more laid back and comfortable. Carole's demeanor is entirely different around Bethenny. If she had this exact same conversation with Bethenny, there would be an element of cattiness or gossip to it. I didn't feel that in Carole's delivery when talking to Heather. 

Jules didn't seem to have any issues with her vocabulary or expressing herself to Dorinda. She only has that issue with Bethenny and I think that's because she feels the judgment and subconsciously overthinks when she tries to communicate with Bethenny. It doesn't help when Bethenny constantly takes digs at her intelligence and ability to speak when Jules is in the midst of trying to express her opinion. 

How did Bethenny go an entire year with abnormal bleeding and didn't bother to go to the doctor before that point? If you're so worried about leaving your daughter behind to be raised by Jason's loving family, then perhaps you should stop sacrificing your health and time for the sake of building an empire and making money. It's not like you're going to end up homeless for real if you worked a slightly lesser pace and make the time to see the doctor when your body isn't working the way it's supposed to. Wouldn't you know if you had a living will or not? 

Ramona's horrible sports analogy...oh man, haha. Dorinda's party look was yikes. I'm tired of hearing about Carole and Luann. Leave it alone Ramona. If neither of them want to approach a conversation then let it be. I don't blame Luann for being so dismissive at the party. Ramona wants to constantly lecture her about what she should do but after she's already done, she's giving instructions in alternate apologies and persistence until Carole finally accepts one of them and grants Luann the honour of her presence over coffee just to talk about things, not to patch things up. Carole is not ready to move on and until she is, nothing Luann will do will appease her and make her feel it's worth it to meet her and discuss anything. She can shift the goal posts and create new expectations for how Luann can prove her sincerity and if Luann met all of them, she would shift the goal posts. Queen of the 'I don't care, I'm passed it' is the complete opposite of that. And that's fine if she needs more time but at least shut down the conversation when Ramona brings it up. 

Jules' husband is so waste. 

[motorcitymom65]

58 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

I don't think Jules wanted to make ED her storyline this season at all, I think she did so hoping that Bethenny would back off. It was Bethenny that brought it up that the very first time she met Jules and she and Carole have continued to used it as something to beat Jules over the head about. They could care less about Jules other than Bethenny taking an instant dislike to her because, according to Bethenny, she "looks" so much like Bethenny's estranged mother, who B hates with a sick passion.

Carole wasn't just "asking" questions, she was challenging Jules.

I don't remember Beth bringing it up to Jules in person, just in her TH interview (and we know that the interviews are conducted at various times during the season after filming begins). I don't think there is much doubt, considering what Jules herself has said, that she willingly talked about her ED. Both Carole and Beth have said that they learned about it on camera. She just wants to control the narrative. I get it, I would probably want to do the same. It's just not possible in this venue. I have no doubt as the season progresses that she will also want to control the narrative about her marriage, even though she has been the one to talk about what a shit her husband is. She will be sadly disappointed. It's too bad because she seems like a really nice person. A nice person that doesn't belong on this show. 

 

ETA: I didn't see Carole as challenging Jules, but I wish she would have. Outright, boldly and with passion. She has two beautiful children and her behavior was frightening to say the least. Would you let someone get behind the wheel and drive drunk? No, it's not exactly the same, but pretending it's not happening and it's not dangerous is nuts and irresponsible, especially when you have an audience on a TV show. There was so much debate last season about the fact that one of the reasons Vicki was so wrong in trying to paint Brooks story as something it wasn't was because there are people at home looking for a reason to believe. That she could be influencing people. How is this different? 

Edited July 1, 2016 by motorcitymom65

[Trooper York]

Jules was led like a lamb to slaughter. Yes she has skeletons. Yes she looks like a skeleton. Yes she is married to a Hobbit with a wandering eye. But she doesn't deserve to be the target of these two miserable harpies. Would Carole torment and "otherize" someone with a physical/mental disability. Would she diagnose someones mental state episode after episode from the vast experience and stature of her career as constipated author who can't shit out a book to save her miserable worthless life. Oh wait.

Spoiler

She already did that to Aviva. This must be a repeat. 

[WireWrap]

18 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I don't remember Beth bringing it up to Jules in person, just in her TH interview (and we know that the interviews are conducted at various times during the season after filming begins). I don't think there is much doubt, considering what Jules herself has said, that she willingly talked about her ED. Both Carole and Beth have said that they learned about it on camera. She just wants to control the narrative. I get it, I would probably want to do the same. It's just not possible in this venue. I have no doubt as the season progresses that she will also want to control the narrative about her marriage, even though she has been the one to talk about what a shit her husband is. She will be sadly disappointed. It's too bad because she seems like a really nice person. A nice person that doesn't belong on this show. 

She, Bethenny, brought it up to Dorinda at the lunch with John, Jules and Michael, the very first time she met them. If Jules didn't hear her, as they were sitting side by side, then Dorinda filled Jules in. Bethenny went into detail about how much Jules reminds her of her mother, her looks, her eating habits (and Yes, Bethenny mentioned ED to Dorinda in that scene), her vocabulary/speech, even her hair reminded Bethenny of her mother. So either Jules over heard her or Dorinda filled her in and she thought sharing her ED struggle would shut Bethenny down, sadly, she had no idea that it only gave Bethenny something to zero in on her about. Then Bethenny filled Carole in and Jules tried to talk to Carole herself about it when Carole started asking her questions at Dorinda's bra party.

I could understand Bethenny's, Caroles's and the others concern had they approached her differently but the way they went about it only raise Jules's stress level and Bethenny knows that is a bad, very bad, thing to do with someone that has an ED. Also, Bethenny said, on WWHL, that she knew right away that Jules's/Michael's marriage was in big trouble for the get go. So again, why the need to up Jules's stress level any higher than it was? Why not have a sit down with her, 1 on 1 and express your concerns IF you really are worried and not just using it as fodder to mock her? IMO, it is because it was just something to mock her about on camera because she reminds Bethenny so much of her much despised mother. Oh, and Heaven Forbid that any other HW, especially a newbie, get viewer sympathy/support over Bethenny. How. DARE. She! LOL

Edited July 1, 2016 by WireWrap

[Trooper York]

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I could understand Bethenny's, Caroles's and the others concern had they approached her differently but the way they went about it only raise Jules's stress level and Bethenny knows that is a bad, very bad, thing to do with someone that has an ED. Also, Bethenny said, on WWHL, that she knew right away that Jules's/Michael's marriage was in big trouble for the get go. So again, why the need to up Jules's stress level any higher than it was? 

Why? Because they are miserable worthless bitches and total hypocrites. They make a low rent grifter like Theresa Guidice look like Mother Theresa. 

The thing you have to think about is that they are reputedly two of Andy Cohen's closest friends. That says something telling right there.

[straightshooter]

I just saw something on TV saying that Jules' husband cut her off completely.  I hope this isn't true.  

[hoodooznoodooz]

23 hours ago, lyric said:

Preach.  Even if Bethenny and Carole are assholes, doesn't absolve Lu of being an asshole too - her 'special hour with Lu' had a few humdingers - such as ghosting her live-in boyfriend without even the courtesy of letting him know in person he was being dumped (or even waiting to marry before dumping him)  That's some cold shit right there.  Then the car rolling down the hill - "I thought 'I'm going to die'" (beat) "and my kids are going to die".  Oh Lu, never change.  Also funny to see her tune change about invitations when she's the one in control of the inviting (and the camera time).  Still think she's a superficial, self-absorbed snake.  I mean, even more than all the other superficial, self-absorbed snakes on this show.  

Thank you!  I kept wondering if there was something wrong with me; if the car was sliding off a mountain, the first thing I would think about would be the safety of my children, not myself.  

[RedheadZombie]

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I'm sure the eating disorder crowd will flock to her cleanse though, as well as normal people who want to lose a few pounds, because who has better concoctions to make you thin than an anorexic/bulimic? 

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4 hours ago, Midnight Cheese said:

This seems brutal...

...unless it's applied to Bethenny, in which case I tire my wrists by high-fiving a bunch of baby angels!

Using connections at the actually respected, actual producer of healthy fast foods, Praeger Co. (partner in Jules' drink) and getting coveted shelf space in Whole Foods seems like what someone who is right on trend with a 'functional' nutrition-based drink would want.  Jules also said, explicitly, that she regarded moving forward with this was a way to try and strengthen her recovery - I don't know what else she can say.  She's apparently struggling.  I got no hate for someone who seems to be trying, and who seems to have hit on an idea with good possibilities...

...whereas I think you could look at someone who plasters Skinny all over her stuff (...destined for Marshalls/no hate since that's where I get my drawers) including even her shitty patronizing chick-lit, in a rather different light.

Honestly, I didn't think that top quote was the least brutal.  Maybe brutally honest.  One of the not so secret secrets in EDs is how sufferers share strategies in losing weight, hiding their illness, and fooling family and healthcare professionals into thinking they're in recovery.  There are pro-ana sites like Thinspo and Thinspiration whose entire goal is to praise the skeletal frames of anorexics, and support each other in maintaining the sickness.  Just google it.  Even just google it under images.  There's all sorts of pics of extremely emaciated females.  They proudly post their images proclaiming they will not eat, and you cannot make them.  You will often find pictures of Angelina Jolie and her tattoo (often interpreted to be pro-ana) which translates to - what nourishes me also destroys me.

So I have no problem believing women with EDs may be interested in Jules's cleanse.  Especially if they hear her brag about maintaining her fertility.

[JAYJAY1979]

Bethenny has no room to talk to Jules and her ED...considering she put a photo of herself in her daughters pajamas.  I wish someone woukd throw that up in the bitter hag's face.

Carole seemed nicer in her brief scene with Heather.

[Jajamac]

On June 29, 2016 at 9:11 PM, BlackMamba said:

So basically Ramona is being used as messenger for Carole and Bethenny to make the others get in line and kiss Team Debbie Downers asses.   Thankfully Lu,  yet again read her down and stood her ground.  Finally a woman with balls who wont be phased by Carole and Bethenny's bullshit. 

"To hell with you Bitches"

It's about time! I was cheering Lu on!

[Midnight Cheese]

6 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:

Sorry, couldn't find the original post to credit the poster.  But this post was responded to with:

Honestly, I didn't think that top quote was the least brutal.  Maybe brutally honest.  One of the not so secret secrets in EDs is how sufferers share strategies in losing weight, hiding their illness, and fooling family and healthcare professionals into thinking they're in recovery.  There are pro-ana sites like Thinspo and Thinspiration whose entire goal is to praise the skeletal frames of anorexics, and support each other in maintaining the sickness.  Just google it.  Even just google it under images.  There's all sorts of pics of extremely emaciated females.  They proudly post their images proclaiming they will not eat, and you cannot make them.  You will often find pictures of Angelina Jolie and her tattoo (often interpreted to be pro-ana) which translates to - what nourishes me also destroys me.

So I have no problem believing women with EDs may be interested in Jules's cleanse.  Especially if they hear her brag about maintaining her fertility.

I know that 'thinspo' is a hashtag and that a lot of people have EDs, in terms of numbers if not percentage-wise, I'm spitballing here.  I also know that this has not been covered really on the show, but the drink is the brainchild of Jules and another woman with Asian heritage who works as a classical musician, and their corp partner is apparently Praeger, and that company has an actual decent rep and history in terms of frozen foods with a health twist).  I don't think most people are going to make a strong association between Jules's anorexia, even if she's in a period of relapse, with the product, and I thought the comment was absurdly snide. 

I get some of the comparisons to Kim Richards but honestly, Kim fought with everyone and was a vicious little weasel, seeking to hurt people where they live.  People can think what they like but if we all got transcripts of RHOBH and RHONY and an underemployed robot looked for instances of similar outbursts, the parallel would IMO be with Bethenny, not Jules.  I get MMV.

[RedheadZombie]

I haven't compared Jules to Kim Richards, and I don't really see the connection.

[motorcitymom65]

22 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

She, Bethenny, brought it up to Dorinda at the lunch with John, Jules and Michael, the very first time she met them. If Jules didn't hear her, as they were sitting side by side, then Dorinda filled Jules in. Bethenny went into detail about how much Jules reminds her of her mother, her looks, her eating habits (and Yes, Bethenny mentioned ED to Dorinda in that scene), her vocabulary/speech, even her hair reminded Bethenny of her mother. So either Jules over heard her or Dorinda filled her in and she thought sharing her ED struggle would shut Bethenny down, sadly, she had no idea that it only gave Bethenny something to zero in on her about. Then Bethenny filled Carole in and Jules tried to talk to Carole herself about it when Carole started asking her questions at Dorinda's bra party.

I could understand Bethenny's, Caroles's and the others concern had they approached her differently but the way they went about it only raise Jules's stress level and Bethenny knows that is a bad, very bad, thing to do with someone that has an ED. Also, Bethenny said, on WWHL, that she knew right away that Jules's/Michael's marriage was in big trouble for the get go. So again, why the need to up Jules's stress level any higher than it was? Why not have a sit down with her, 1 on 1 and express your concerns IF you really are worried and not just using it as fodder to mock her? IMO, it is because it was just something to mock her about on camera because she reminds Bethenny so much of her much despised mother. Oh, and Heaven Forbid that any other HW, especially a newbie, get viewer sympathy/support over Bethenny. How. DARE. She! LOL

But what about what she said to Carole? That she wanted to be a role model? That she was very open with everyone about her illness because she thought that was the way to show other folks who were suffering that there was hope? She said again on this latest episode that she has always been open about her ED. Just seems strange that a person who fancies herself open about her disease and wants to be a role model and talk about it, would come on a reality TV show and not intend to talk about it. Maybe that is the case. If so, she is dumber than Carole thinks she is, and I don't think that is possible. 

Her Bravo Blog is what really makes me sad. This gal is in trouble. I don't just mean the ED stuff. She seems to suffer from the lack of self-awareness that lots of the HW's suffer from. I wonder why that is? This from her blog:

"My failed attempt at changing up the tone of things from constant fighting to silliness with my pizza-making prank wasn't my best idea to date, I'll admit that. But insinuating that I have mental issues, addiction problems and God knows what else because of a dumb joke is not okay."

Could she really watch that episode and not understand why someone might think that she had addiction issues? The list of meds she had in her bag, on a Tuesday night at a pizza joint, was alarming. And yes, the cocktail of Adderall mixed with an eating disorder is problematic. It takes about 2 minutes to run a search and find this out. It is making me ill because she is reminding me so much of Kim. In Kim's mind it was never Kim's behavior that was the problem, it was people pointing out the behavior and talking about it that was the real problem. How dare people point out the obvious, since she has children at home who would be harmed by what is being said on TV. No, jackass, your children might be harmed because their mother is in trouble and decided to take her troubles and highlight them on national TV. It is worse in this situation, however, because Jules is actually a likable person, unlike Kim Richards who is not. 

[sasha206]

Maybe it's because Jules is growing on me, but I'm now seeing her beauty.

Meanwhile. Lu is looking amazing again.  Ramona looks awful with those extensions.  She would looks incredible without them.  And I love Dorinda's haircut.  

Bethenny ordering her driver to get the bloody pillow clean...oy.

Ramona seems to be acting these days as well.

[motorcitymom65]

4 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:

I haven't compared Jules to Kim Richards, and I don't really see the connection.

I have made the comparison, which is basically two HW's who have tragic and potentially lethal issues that they have decided to highlight on TV. They have also allowed their behavior to play out on TV, and don't like it when that behavior is called into question, blaming not the behavior, but the person who notices the behavior. True, one person is likable, and the other, not so much. 

[Umbelina]

Bethenny didn't tell Carole or anyone else about Jules' eating disorders (she has more than one she said.)  Jules told her, on camera. 

If she wanted it to be a secret, she wouldn't have made sure to tell people on camera.  She had a dream of being a role model.  I think her life is so chaotic, for her anyway, that her disease was not in control at all, and watching her shows that.  Did the show contribute to her stress?  Maybe, but everything stresses her, her children (keep me in the hospital longer please!) (The disaster of Dorinda's party was the most relaxed she's been in years!) along with her numerous complaints about managing her children, not knowing how to bathe them, the nanny freak out, the questions to the nanny, the resentment over her husband not taking over the care of the kids more...just all of it.  The woman can't make tea!  She, who obviously is counting every single radish slice she puts in her mouth, stuffs candy into her kids to get them to behave, or even to take them on a drive, and then shows her daughter's belly for camera.

I mean the hell? 

Michael is going to get those kids if he wants them, I can't even see her fighting for them, except for the child support payments she might collect.  She hates being a mother, can't cope with any of it, except the superficial crap like picking out their outfits.  No wonder Bethenny was having flashbacks, welcome to her childhood.

2 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I have made the comparison, which is basically two HW's who have tragic and potentially lethal issues that they have decided to highlight on TV. They have also allowed their behavior to play out on TV, and don't like it when that behavior is called into question, blaming not the behavior, but the person who notices the behavior. True, one person is likable, and the other, not so much. 

She must really hate that horror show clip of her at the pizza place that Andy had made for WWHL!

[Midnight Cheese]

Jules IS Bernadette!  Must be hard for B. Part 2 to witness such a terrible worthless mother.  Maybe B. could up her own Adderall use (off-label, on-label...who can speculate?  I know she knows about rails, but I'm sure she's only whittled a chair rail, sniff sniff sniff) and continues the helpful '115 ounces' talking-headery.  I would flove to claim a form of PTSD so that all my faults could be ascribed to stuff attributable to others while the soundtrack of 'Platoon' played in my head.

I like that Dorinda is actually worried like a warm-blooded mammal about Jules in this crowd. 

MCM, I think Jules is probably in trouble right now, too.  It makes me sad for her.  A contentious divorce, this show, a business of some sort, a history where she admitted in-patient hospitalization.  It's a bad bunch of stuff at once and I hope she'll be okay.  I couldn't take Kim R.'s cracked-out meanness because she was just so effing mean.  Always had the hurtiest hurt to dole out.  Jules I don't perceive in the same way, but I do feel that worry that she is not okay.

Edited July 1, 2016 by Midnight Cheese

[Trooper York]

I agree  with that. She seems very fragile. She has two kids that seem to love her. She seems to love them but is just unorganized and lost. That is not a crime. There are many people like that. Her vindictive shrimp of a husband  doesn't seem to give a crap about them. He will get custody just to win. It looks like a tragedy in the making.

[sasha206]

23 hours ago, Umbelina said:

It's obvious that Jules' eating disorder is alive and thriving, Jules?  Not so much.

So weird to be on a show like this with that kind of problem, and I'm not sure Bravo is terribly responsible by casting her.  Still, fascinating, and also very scary watching her.  Carole is no where near as thin as Jules, and saying that she is doesn't make it true.  Google bathing suit or shorts photos.  One is thin, one is very sick.

I completely agree.  I think Carole is just one of these people with a high metabolism and is naturally thin.  My SIL is like that (and her mom as well).  Bethenny, well, I think she's got a great bod.  She's skinny but I've never viewed her as someone with an eating disorder or body dysmorphia.  She is thin but fit.  Jules is still in the throes of the eating disorder.  I think she purposefully talks about her eating disorder as if it is past tense so people "get off her jock" about it.  

[zoeysmom]

29 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

Bethenny didn't tell Carole or anyone else about Jules' eating disorders (she has more than one she said.)  Jules told her, on camera. 

If she wanted it to be a secret, she wouldn't have made sure to tell people on camera.  She had a dream of being a role model.  I think her life is so chaotic, for her anyway, that her disease was not in control at all, and watching her shows that.  Did the show contribute to her stress?  Maybe, but everything stresses her, her children (keep me in the hospital longer please!) (The disaster of Dorinda's party was the most relaxed she's been in years!) along with her numerous complaints about managing her children, not knowing how to bathe them, the nanny freak out, the questions to the nanny, the resentment over her husband not taking over the care of the kids more...just all of it.  The woman can't make tea!  She, who obviously is counting every single radish slice she puts in her mouth, stuffs candy into her kids to get them to behave, or even to take them on a drive, and then shows her daughter's belly for camera.

I mean the hell? 

Michael is going to get those kids if he wants them, I can't even see her fighting for them, except for the child support payments she might collect.  She hates being a mother, can't cope with any of it, except the superficial crap like picking out their outfits.  No wonder Bethenny was having flashbacks, welcome to her childhood.

She must really hate that horror show clip of her at the pizza place that Andy had made for WWHL!

Before Jules confided in Bethenny , Bethenny was running her yap saying Jules frame made other people uncomfortable.  That is just bad form.  When Jules opened up to Bethenny and said ask me anything, Bethenny started talking about her life and her experience with ED.  She did not care about Jules' journey.

I don't recall Jules saying she wanted to be a role model-just that she was willing to open the vault.

[snowblossom2]

On June 29, 2016 at 10:41 PM, parisprincess said:

 

Oh, and the bloody pillow was disgusting. Kevin should get hazardous pay for having to deal with stuff like that.

And B didn't even say thank you to him. 

 

5 hours ago, Umbelina said:

Because there are other people involved, pure and simple.  Ramona and Bethenny have agreed to film part of their lives for the cameras, but that doesn't mean whomever they are involved with or dating want to be on a cheesy reality show too.  They both also learned first hand what that does to their relationships and how it changes them.  Why would they do it again?

B is such a hypocrite because she yells at everyone to be real and claims she puts her life out there, when in fact, she is one of the biggest manipulators on RH. 

[breezy424]

YIkes.  We're talking about Jules and addictions?  Hey, remember Jules' hematoma?   I'm sure she's on a number of meds for that.  As for the Adderall, she could possible be ADD or ADHD.  Many adults are.  However, if you mix alcohol with the combination of drugs she may have been taking, well....  I don't think it's fair to go down the 'addict' road from what we've seen.

Jules has been open about her anorexia.  That's good but it doesn't give permission to people who have only known her a short time to diagnose what her present situation is.  They don't know her past history.  For all they know, as well as the viewers, is that she's doing pretty good.  It's all relative.  She doesn't need to be 'observed' and made to feel uncomfortable by anyone.  The best anyone can do is organically ask about her journey and how she is doing at appropriate times where you're not putting her in a defensive position.  And heck, what if Jules was obese, would anyone ask her how much she weighed?  That was just tacky.

Edited July 1, 2016 by breezy424

[Umbelina]

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But Michael's attorney claimed Jules was abusive and physically attacked her husband - who he called 'diminutive but brave' - in 2012. Jules' rep denied that, telling DailyMail.com 'the truth will prevail.'

"Diminutive but brave" just cracks me up!

Meanwhile, neither is leaving the house, this is going to be another nasty divorce.  I'm sure their lawyers have advised them not to leave the residence.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3668396/Awkward-Jules-Wainstein-estranged-husband-Michael-living-amid-ugly-divorce-battle-abuse-claims.html#ixzz4D7mQueFr
 

[innocuouspuff]

Interrogating someone about their personal habits is rude, in my opinion. Unless you're their mum or their doctor. Maybe the ladies should expect rudeness while filming but that's not the same as something being generally acceptable behaviour.

Any one of us is shortening our lives at any moment. Did we all exercise today? Get 8 servings of fruits and vegetables? Floss? Take all your medication on time? How's your blood pressure? Cholesterol? Is anyone drinking too much alcohol? Or smoking weed? Doing harder drugs? Having risky sex? Did you know that's bad for you? It's bad for you! Here, let me roll my eyes and lecture you about it even though I barely know you.

The knee-jerk reaction of anyone would be "leave me the fuck alone", and I don't blame them. If there's an emergency, call 911. Otherwise, Jules having an illness does not mean it's okay, or useful, to condescend to her like a five year old.

[Bronzedog]

"Diminutive but brave".  Ha ha ha ha ha!   Michael's a brave little toadstool!

[straightshooter]

I know I'm probably in a club of one on this, but I actually think Carole is genuinely concerned for Jules.  

[sasha206]

29 minutes ago, straightshooter said:

I know I'm probably in a club of one on this, but I actually think Carole is genuinely concerned for Jules.  

I think she is too.

Bethenny not so much.  I think Bethenny likes seeing weakness in people and pounces.

[ScoobieDoobs]

As I watched Bethenny weeping in  her limo, feeling sorry for her poor widdle rich self, I just couldn't help thinkin' -- Oh hun, you reap what sow.  YOU REAP WHAT YOU FUCKING SOW, BETHENNY!  Treat people miserably & horribly & with nothing other than sneering disdain, nastiness, thoughtlessness & cruelty -- & yeah, the only ones who you can pour your heart out to are people paid to "serve" you, or nonentities on the phone, who sound like they couldn't care less what happens to you.  Sounds wonderful, Bethenny.  But you planted yourself in this shit.  So why in the fuckety fuck would I have ANY sympathy for you?  I don't.  I couldn't fucking care less about you feeling sorry for yourself & your whining.  I did feel a bit sorry for the driver & hope he's being paid well, but then I hope anybody who works for Bethenny is paid well.  They deserve to be, for the sure torture they have to endure working for her.

Carole is a bullshitter.  Pure & simple.  Carole.  Is.  A.  BULLSHITTER!!!!!!!!!!  Watch her on WWHL & you'll see what I mean.  Oh, she's not an absolute bullshitter, where you can dismiss 100% of what she says as bullshit.  No, she's a much more annoying bullshitter than that.  She's a very casual & shifty bullshitter.  I would say maybe 25 to 50% of what she says is bullshit & then she's shifty too -- so it's kinda hard to tell what she's saying is bullshit & what's real.  She's annoying as hell.  God, I can't stand this woman now that she's living in Bethenny's asshole.  She said everything Bethenny is saying is stuff Carole has said.  That might be true, but she's being very, very, very shifty -- especially in her defense of joining in on the nastiness toward Jules (along with Bethenny).  Best moment for me was when she was stumbling over her words, saying there is no producer prodding on the show.  Oh, really, Carole?  Satan Andy shot her a look that said (to me) -- Bitch, you better keep your trap shut & don't reveal my Housewives secrets, if you know what's good for you!

Bethenny reminds me so much of that person we all know -- we've all had this kinda mortifying experience -- where you let your guard down to the wrong person, and tell a secret/weakness & that person ends up revealing your secret to the world or cruelly slaughters you for this secret.  Just when I think Bethenny can't get any more cruel & horrible & awful -- she does.  And she expects me to feel sorry for her dramatics over a simple health problem that can be addressed easily.  Ah, fuck off, Bethenny.  You got money to cover your health problems.  I don't give a shit about your over-dramatics.

ED's are an extremely serious issue.  And the way Bethenny is treating Jules is so incredibly cruel.  Is this supposed to be funny?  I hate it.  Carole was just as bad.  She was trying to say on WWHL she was just asking her questions & was confused by Jules.  Bullshit, Carole!  You are full of crap, hun.  Dorinda was right.  If Carole was put on the spot about this dude she's dating, that's over 20 years younger than her, which she's clearly sensitive about, she would not be thrilled to be interrogated about that, would she?  Carole is such a fucking hypocrite, she makes my head explode.

I don't read the blogs anymore, so thanks to Wirewrap for quoting them.  Interesting how Bethenny's blog shows her to be so shortsighted & unaware of her blatant cruelty toward Jules.  Wow, just wow.  I was blown away at the cruelty of her comment (while laughing her ass off) on Jules taking her to a doctor.  God, Bethenny's cruelty just knows no bounds.  It's really hideous to watch.  Thank goodness, the show isn't completely overtaken by Bethenny & her non-stop horribleness.  At least Moaner offers some relief.  She gave me a giggle when she walked out with the plate.  I mean, seriously, that was a Moaner move if there ever was one.  But Moaner is too obviously up Bethenny's ass now, so she's not what she once was.  I'm glad Lu & Sonja are still around.  They are the only ones who thankfully refuse to live in Bethenny's asshole.  Sheesh, what fate will befall these 2?

So I just passed Sonja's townhouse on my way home tonite around 11:30.  Bright lights on in the first floor reception room.  And there were stacks of cartons in the otherwise very neat first floor reception area.  Hard to see from the street view, but it looked like pics of wine bottles on the boxes.  Could it be Tipsy Girl?  Hmmmmm . . . .

[MaryTylerMoore]

7 hours ago, Thumper said:

It is scary when you don't have anyone you can count on.  That may be her own fault, but still.

When I had my hysterectomy my co-workers cooked enough food to last my 8 week recovery time and dropped it off in tupperware; one even brought me a coloring book and crayons while I was in the hospital. Maybe if Beth were nicer to her co-workers she wouldn't feel so alone.

[WireWrap]

3 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

But what about what she said to Carole? That she wanted to be a role model? That she was very open with everyone about her illness because she thought that was the way to show other folks who were suffering that there was hope? She said again on this latest episode that she has always been open about her ED. Just seems strange that a person who fancies herself open about her disease and wants to be a role model and talk about it, would come on a reality TV show and not intend to talk about it. Maybe that is the case. If so, she is dumber than Carole thinks she is, and I don't think that is possible. 

Her Bravo Blog is what really makes me sad. This gal is in trouble. I don't just mean the ED stuff. She seems to suffer from the lack of self-awareness that lots of the HW's suffer from. I wonder why that is? This from her blog:

"My failed attempt at changing up the tone of things from constant fighting to silliness with my pizza-making prank wasn't my best idea to date, I'll admit that. But insinuating that I have mental issues, addiction problems and God knows what else because of a dumb joke is not okay."

Could she really watch that episode and not understand why someone might think that she had addiction issues? The list of meds she had in her bag, on a Tuesday night at a pizza joint, was alarming. And yes, the cocktail of Adderall mixed with an eating disorder is problematic. It takes about 2 minutes to run a search and find this out. It is making me ill because she is reminding me so much of Kim. In Kim's mind it was never Kim's behavior that was the problem, it was people pointing out the behavior and talking about it that was the real problem. How dare people point out the obvious, since she has children at home who would be harmed by what is being said on TV. No, jackass, your children might be harmed because their mother is in trouble and decided to take her troubles and highlight them on national TV. It is worse in this situation, however, because Jules is actually a likable person, unlike Kim Richards who is not. 

I really believe that Jules thought if she put it out there, if she addressed it, that the other women would be respectful enough to keep their mouths shut. Yes, she joined a show known for ripping each other apart but that never seems to stop newbies from thinking/believing that they will be the exception, not the rule. Her list of medications is alarming.

As for her blog, I think she is right, who are Bethenny/Carole to suggest/question if Jules has a mental health issue or an addiction issue, they barely know her. Bethenny would flip out had a HW suggested she abused Adderall to control her weight and that she had a mental disorder, flip out!. LOL

[WireWrap]

4 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I have made the comparison, which is basically two HW's who have tragic and potentially lethal issues that they have decided to highlight on TV. They have also allowed their behavior to play out on TV, and don't like it when that behavior is called into question, blaming not the behavior, but the person who notices the behavior. True, one person is likable, and the other, not so much. 

Kim did not want to "highlight" her addiction on the show, she did everything she could to hide/deny it. And, I still believe that Jules only talked about it in hopes of getting Bethenny, who was talking about it on camera as soon as she met her, to back off. Also, say what you want, neither Carole or Bethenny are coming from a place of care/concern when they question/mock Jules about her ED. She is nothing more than food for their act.

[telemachus2]

It's interesting that many posters regard Bethenny's shrieking laughter at the idea of Jules accompanying B. to the doctor's as evidence of B's low opinion of Jules's competence/usefulness. It was a truly detestable scene, & seemed the epitome of mean-girlish mockery, braying yelps at a more vulnerable peer, but IMO Beth was probably really roaring at the incongruity of 2 patients with vaginal probs descending on the doc simultaneously, with the "helper" possibly in greater need of medical attn than the purported patient.  Too bad Beth shows her extreme bitchiness so constantly that even innocuous moments are interpreted against her.  

Isn't this the 2nd time Beth has used the hackneyed "you needa verb" attack against Jules (the 1st time being when Jules & B met alone & Jules told B of her ED?)   Hey Bitch, uneeda new dialogue GW.

Personally, I'd love to see Luann empowered to revive some of her Eurosnobbery, provided her targets are Beth, Carole & Ramona - go get 'em Countless!  Incidentally, Lu looked stunning in her black lace dress TH, IMO.

[Neurochick]

On June 29, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Maire said:

 

I don't think Bethenney is as sad about Brynn being with her ex and the in laws (who we've seen are over the moon about her). I think B realizes they would have access to her fortune through Brynn and that she can't abide.

 

That's exactly what I was thinking.  And if Bethenny feels that way, she's dumb for not making provisions for Brynn now; have funds put in trust for her in case something happens to Bethenny.  

BTW, as I said last week, I had the exact same surgery as Bethenny, in 1999 and yes, you're in the hospital for 3 days.  They won't release you unless you can urinate and have a bowl movement and the six weeks recovery is normal, really four weeks real recovery and two weeks doing light stuff.  The night before I had my surgery, I went to Crunch and ran two miles, so that's how I dealt with it.

I loved seeing Luann with Ramona.  Who made Ramona the peacemaker?  Why should Luann and Carole have anything to do with each other?  If they don't want to be friends then so be it.  

BTW, I saw Carole on WWHL and I think she's full of shit.

Edited July 1, 2016 by Neurochick

[kassa]

I also compared Jules to Kim.  Eating disorders are addictions. The same "believe what I tell you and not what you see me doing right in front of you" mindset.  They think they're smooth, they have an answer for every concern raised, and if they feel cornered into facing uncomfortable truths they make it about the other person.

I don't like the way B and C have approached it, and in many ways I find J more likeable, but she's waving a ton of red flags, and denying it. Not even a token "you know, I can see what that must have looked like, but I can't tell you how exhausting it is having people watch every bite you put in your mouth (or don't) and sometimes I get snappy." Instead it was a litany of how ridiculous it was, and baseless, and nasty, and an assault on her integrity/sobriety. 

[Neurochick]

13 hours ago, berly57 said:

3. Lou & Carole -- Sorry, but I'm on Carole's side on this one. Granted, it has dragged on for way too long and they are only friends for the show, but Lou get off your fucking high horse and just meet w/her for coffee. And, if she does that, Carole, drop it.

 

Why should Luann have to meet with Carole for coffee?  For what?  I don't get it.  If they don't want to hang out, then it's all good.

[AnnaMayWong]

I asked a family member to fetch a soft drink for me as I watched the scenes in which Bethenney™ bawled, whined, and lamented to➡ (?) while within her livery vehicle. And, I felt nothing--not sympathy, not empathy, not irritation, not...                             Just...nothing except...noting that Bethenney™ is beginning to look like a gnome. During those particular tv moments, that was it for me--noting the tastiness of my cold drink, and realizing that Bethenney™ is beginning to look like a gnome.

[motorcitymom65]

35 minutes ago, telemachus2 said:

It's interesting that many posters regard Bethenny's shrieking laughter at the idea of Jules accompanying B. to the doctor's as evidence of B's low opinion of Jules's competence/usefulness. It was a truly detestable scene, & seemed the epitome of mean-girlish mockery, braying yelps at a more vulnerable peer, but IMO Beth was probably really roaring at the incongruity of 2 patients with vaginal probs descending on the doc simultaneously, with the "helper" possibly in greater need of medical attn than the purported patient.  Too bad Beth shows her extreme bitchiness so constantly that even innocuous moments are interpreted against her.  

Isn't this the 2nd time Beth has used the hackneyed "you needa verb" attack against Jules (the 1st time being when Jules & B met alone & Jules told B of her ED?)   Hey Bitch, uneeda new dialogue GW.

Personally, I'd love to see Luann empowered to revive some of her Eurosnobbery, provided her targets are Beth, Carole & Ramona - go get 'em Countless!  Incidentally, Lu looked stunning in her black lace dress TH, IMO.

It's interesting the differing perspectives on what Beth said here, and how mean it was. I thought that Beth was saying that it would have been hysterical to have Jules with Beth and her vagina troubles, considering she had a problem of her own. That it would have been funny to have the girl helping her work through her issues when she couldn't sit down herself without a donut. Imagine the irony of that whole deal. I can see how it came across as thoughtless, however, and liked Dorinda's advice that if Beth bothers her, she should just tell Beth. I would have loved to have had Jules ask Beth why she would say something like that. Make Beth explain what she was saying. 

The conversation with Dorinda was interesting. She went hard on Carole, telling Jules that she should have gone after Carole about her young boyfriend in response. What the hell was that about? I thought that Carole and Dorinda were in a good place. Why would she recommend saying something like that? On the other hand, Jules was much more upset about Beth, saying that she didn't think she could trust her. Dorinda didn't recommend she say anything horrible to her, just explain her feelings. She said that Beth would be receptive; that she would respect and appreciate hearing from Jules. She tried to convey to Jules that Beth was a tough cookie, but a good person who had said nothing except nice things about Jules. She seemed to want for Jules to not think poorly of Beth, but didn't mind if she thought poorly of Carole. 

[ElDosEquis]

17 hours ago, lunastartron said:

I'm mystified by the suggestions upthread that Jules noting that she wants friends to hold her accountable for her recovery (which in and of itself is an acknowledgement that maintaining her health is an ongoing process) constitutes carte blanche for Bethenny and Carole to literally speculate on camera but behind Jules's back about her exact weight (because that's going to be reaalllly helpful), declare she's "crazy" (although I know all women with psychological struggles must find that designation super mobilizing), compare and contrast their own bodies to hers, etc., etc.

If a pal asks you to tell her if an ensemble she has selected is unflattering before she walks out the door, I'm not sure how that's latitude to call her fat, whisper to third parties "ohmygaw, have you seen what she's wearing?", and/or offer anything more than diplomatic feedback.

It's not about being "nice." It's about exercising some compassion and common sense vis-à-vis a fellow human being afflicted by a primarily self-destructive illness - not to mention one that's married to misogynistic societal pressures and body ideals.  

the 'correct' answer to anyone asking about YOUR opinion is to ask them how THEY feel about the topic, then tell them that is all that matters.

your opinion is uniquely yours, therefore you need to keep it to yourself?

[motorcitymom65]

8 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Before Jules confided in Bethenny , Bethenny was running her yap saying Jules frame made other people uncomfortable.  That is just bad form.  When Jules opened up to Bethenny and said ask me anything, Bethenny started talking about her life and her experience with ED.  She did not care about Jules' journey.

I don't recall Jules saying she wanted to be a role model-just that she was willing to open the vault.

You might be right in that she didn't use the word Role Model when she told her story to Carole, but she definitely implied that telling her story could be helpful to others. This from her interview with People Magazine:

The reality star – who runs a successful juice company, Modern Alkeme, and lives in New York City with her husband Michael and their son Jagger, 5, and daughter Rio, 3 – says she hopes her story will help inspire others who might be struggling to seek help, too. 

"I thought doing the show would be great not only for me to meet new friends and eventually open up to six new women, but also to millions of viewers," she says. "You never know who could be watching and hearing. All it takes is hope."

And at the time, she didn't think that Beth was just yapping and not listening. She said in her blog that her conversation with Beth was wonderful and that she was supportive. 

[ElDosEquis]

16 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I couldn't agree more. There are ingredients in hair dye that can be toxic. We have the ability to decide for ourselves if the benefits outweigh the potential risks. A dog does not. I just don't care for people doing things TO their dog, that the dog has no say in. 

For the record? People use Kool-Aid and Jell-O to 'punk' out their pooches, while I am not of the idea that they should be dyed for fashion, I do think that a few times a year isn't going to kill them. I love a good dog-Halloween costume?

[ryebread]

4 hours ago, Lady Grump said:

Yes. I remember liking Carole so much the first season, in part because of a single -- at the time apropos -- comment to Ramona. The two women were at some cafe. Ramona, per usual, was bitching about someone, and Carole calmly said, "Well, Ramona -- she is who she is and you are who you are -- it's fine." It was so refreshing, at the time, to have one of the Housewives respond that way. Now, three years later, Carole has Kafka'd herself into a catty monster.

That so many of Carole's former fans are seeing the catty princess that was always lurking beneath the surface, warms me right down to my toes - they are curling with delight.

I was never a fan of Holla but have to give her some credit. I think she's backed away from this friendship in real life. On the show, she often acted as the mouth for Carole. Maybe by speaking for her, she was trying to prevent her from saying the things she's saying this season. She'd shush Carole or shut her down in mid sentence (much to my amusement). Perhaps Heather knew Radzi had a bitter, acid tongue and was trying to protect her.  (Unlike Bethenny, who is egging Carole on. And Carole. in her infinite wisdom, has taken the bait and bee-lined right up Beth's backside.)

Heather was so well liked.  Now that she's gone, Carole can't hide behind Heather's fan favorite status any more.  This season, Carole picked the wrong coattails to ride on.  Although....it will guarantee her a spot for next year.

[motorcitymom65]

9 minutes ago, ryebread said:

That so many of Carole's former fans are seeing the catty princess that was always lurking beneath the surface, warms me right down to my toes - they are curling with delight.

I was never a fan of Holla but have to give her some credit. I think she's backed away from this friendship in real life. On the show, she often acted as the mouth for Carole. Maybe by speaking for her, she was trying to prevent her from saying the things she's saying this season. She'd shush Carole or shut her down in mid sentence (much to my amusement). Perhaps Heather knew Radzi had a bitter, acid tongue and was trying to protect her.  (Unlike Bethenny, who is egging Carole on. And Carole. in her infinite wisdom, has taken the bait and bee-lined right up Beth's backside.)

Heather was so well liked.  Now that she's gone, Carole can't hide behind Heather's fan favorite status any more.  This season, Carole picked the wrong coattails to ride on.  Although....it will guarantee her a spot for next year.

I have always liked Carole and still do, but I do think that there is some merit to the fact that Carole is the same now as she always was. I am mystified that so many think she has changed. To me, she is the same as she always was, friendships have just shifted. If she was just as catty, but being catty to Beth, I think that lots of folks would see it all differently. It is always about alliances to an extent in the end. 

[snowblossom2]

37 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

You might be right in that she didn't use the word Role Model when she told her story to Carole, but she definitely implied that telling her story could be helpful to others. This from her interview with People Magazine:

The reality star – who runs a successful juice company, Modern Alkeme, and lives in New York City with her husband Michael and their son Jagger, 5, and daughter Rio, 3 – says she hopes her story will help inspire others who might be struggling to seek help, too. 

"I thought doing the show would be great not only for me to meet new friends and eventually open up to six new women, but also to millions of viewers," she says. "You never know who could be watching and hearing. All it takes is hope."

And at the time, she didn't think that Beth was just yapping and not listening. She said in her blog that her conversation with Beth was wonderful and that she was supportive. 

Yes, but that was probably before she saw all the THs and snarky comments B and C made about her and her disorder

[trimthatfat]

I only liked Carole when Heather was on the show. I think their friendship is very genuine while I think her friendship with Bethenny is more about her kissing Bethenny's butt.

[AnnaMayWong]

Although, Bethenney believed Jules would have been useless as support during her medical distress, she did not have to laughingly give voice to thought. THAT is the point. The overtones of derision combined with undertones of disdain signified a sickening dismissiveness of Jules AS A PERSON. The disgust that has been directed at Bethenney™ didn't emanate from her personal feelings about Jules' capabilities as a healthcare support system. However, inklings of  indignation arose about Bethenny's peculiar desire to intimate if not implicate(word, tone, inflection, and body language) what a poor preposterous choice of assistance Jules would be in that circumstance. Why bring up Jules in that regard❓  Why say ANYthing about Jules per that state of affairs❓  Why did she proffer her opinion about Jules' usefulness in that situation ❓   Except to ridicule, no need existed for Bethenny to hint her belief that Jules lacked ability in that regard. And, indeed she certainly gave the allusion. That's the point of repulsion--for me...                                                    Jules expressed sympathy toward Bethenney's Blooding and in return she is 'shit on' by Bethenney.

[motorcitymom65]

23 minutes ago, snowblossom2 said:

Yes, but that was probably before she saw all the THs and snarky comments B and C made about her and her disorder

Possible, but I was responding to the comments up thread that Jules didn't come on the show with the intent to address her ED, but only did it in response to the comments from Beth and Carole. From the things she has said in the press and on the show, it was always her intent that this be part of her storyline. 

[AnnaMayWong]

11 hours ago, WireWrap said:

I don't think Jules wanted to make ED her storyline this season at all, I think she did so hoping that Bethenny would back off. It was Bethenny that brought it up that the very first time she met Jules and she and Carole have continued to used it as something to beat Jules over the head about. They could care less about Jules other than Bethenny taking an instant dislike to her because, according to Bethenny, she "looks" so much like Bethenny's estranged mother, who B hates with a sick passion.

Carole wasn't just "asking" questions, she was challenging Jules.

TOUCHDOWN❗  Wham❗ Exactly!