The Duggalos: Jinger and the Holy Goalie

[queenanne]

2 hours ago, yogi2014L said:

The Duggars are horrible at social media because they are sheltered, socially inept and undereducated. 

 They seem too dull to actually get anything out of interactions with people because they  do not understand other grown adults and how most people live ( go to school get a job, become independent ect)

Add that into their cult beliefs...failure all around. They don't care to branch out, and are too stupid to see the benefit in doing so. I don't even think the adult Duggars understand that to get through to people ( in order to convert them as that is their goal) it is a good idea to truly relate to them and find a common connection. They throw the " can anybody relate" out there without knowing WHY they should be relating to the heathens on SM. Just parroting lines. 

Its actually quite interesting seeing how badly they are failing as adults. I can't wait to see the instagrams of the howlers and lost girls 

I think you've also hit upon why they don't go to the library - selfish stupidity on the part of JB and Michelle.  They themselves aren't interested in reading or books outside of a small circle of trite pap; so the children don't "have to" be interested in it either (read:  "I find it boring so I wouldn't take them").  We've never seen any indication that Mere and Pere Duggar even read as widely as Jeremy; I'm not sure they'd know what to do with a biography of Susie Spurgeon, which would probably strike them as dull as the proverbial ditchwater; and might be why they need their preachers to tell them about the Bible.  There's literally no trick to taking children to a library and asking them to run their reading selections by you as parent before the kids take them out.  I used to work in a small town library, and I've seen it countless times from all manner and stripe of parents.  I was in fact astonished during my lib. sci. classes, to realize that with the benefit of hindsight my mother probably thought librarians were vetting my books for "appropriateness", because when a friend sent me a Peter Straub or similar she thought I'd like for my birthday on the border into 7th grade, my mother called up the friend's mother and read her the riot act for "letting her daughter read such age-inappropriate books" and trying to corrupt me.

[MichaelaRae]

Well if you read stuff in a library, you might actually be exposed to ideas different from your own, and we know THAT'S not okay in Duggar World.

[mimionthebeach]

14 hours ago, Zella said:

I imagine they are too suspicious and disinterested to ever give it a try, which is sad. Do the Duggars ever mention going to their local library? At ours, we have a lot of homeschoolers who come for books and programs. It would do the Duggars a world of good, but I imagine they are too suspicious and disinterested to ever give it a try, which is sad. 

They've already got a book. Why would they need another one? 😏

[bigskygirl]

17 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

In my experience, a branch takes on the tone of the community. I'm sure there are a few branch libraries in the LA area where the community is white, upper-middle class and apolitical.  These branches would have more controversial picture books in their collection, but they are never used for any display or storytime.  These library programs would be filled with other white SAHMs where Jinger and Felicity would feel at home.  I don't get the impression that Jinger and Jeremy are as adverse to meeting new people as the rest of the Duggar clan.

Jerememe probably only wants to meet new people so he can stroke his massive ego, show off his family, or try to shove his beliefs on others. I cannot imagine trying to have a conversation with him or Jinger.

[DangerousMinds]

Referring to himself?

[Lunera]

Whoa, JerMe finally got a sponsor for fancy European mens clothing store. Wonder how long he's been badgering them, or how many of his silly followers wil actually make a purchase. Of course, he put it on IG stories to avoid the bad commentary. 

That silly little pocket square will set you back 85 euros.

[FizzyPuff]

6 minutes ago, Lunera said:

Whoa, JerMe finally got a sponsor for fancy European mens clothing store. Wonder how long he's been badgering them, or how many of his silly followers wil actually make a purchase. Of course, he put it on IG stories to avoid the bad commentary. 

That silly little pocket square will set you back 85 euros.

How much money does Jeremy think his followers have? 

Also look at his trousers looks like he wet himself.

[bigskygirl]

Just when you thought he could not get more obnoxious. I am surprise he can fit in the door way with his massive ego.

[Oldernowiser]

LMAO. Who does this jumped-up backwoods poser think he is?

Oh, Jinger. I’m sorry, hon.

[Churchhoney]

25 minutes ago, Lunera said:

Whoa, JerMe finally got a sponsor for fancy European mens clothing store. Wonder how long he's been badgering them, or how many of his silly followers wil actually make a purchase. Of course, he put it on IG stories to avoid the bad commentary. 

That silly little pocket square will set you back 85 euros.

Well -- if we doubted it before -- the reason he's so taken by the preachersnsneakers instagram is now crystal clear. He wants to be just like them. Except with a more uptight wardrobe. 

The owner of that instagram considers his postings a slam on the Pastors of Vanity Fair. But Jer clearly finds the jerkwads aspirational.

I've known some clergy in my life who turned out to have crap values and feet of shitty clay. And they were all vanity-fair types. (not that there aren't some shit-clay types who pretend not to love wealth and personal power and position )

Anyway, hard for me to see how those interests exist alongside any actual spiritual values of any variety. Especially when you shill the fashion stuff online to your "followers" -- few of whom probably have the wealth you're suggesting they burn to be like you. 

I don't know what to say about somebody who'd wear the Rembrandt pocket square without irony. The price is too high to buy it as the joke it is, though, I expect.

Edited May 4, 2019 by Churchhoney

[lucy711]

I know that the consensus among many is that Jeremy is the best Duggar-girl husband, but I have to disagree.  I can't stand arrogant men.  That is a major turnoff for me.  I think I'd rather be married to Ben or Derrick because maybe if I ignored them they would just let me do my own thing.  Although seeing Derrick's face on a daily basis is a scary thought!

[Totally]

I can’t reconcile a supposed life serving people with his obsession with clothes and perfection

I try to imagine Jerm working with the homeless or disadvantaged. It seems his idea of being a minister/pastor is standing at a pulpit preaching and maybe socialising with a coffee afterwards 

Where is the grassroots desire to be making a difference in lives?

if you are spending so much time concerned about clothes and your appearance can you have any real desire to make a difference in lives? 

Jerm makes me see red, I want to fling my iPad across the room every time his smarmy tossy face shows up 

Go and do something that actually makes a difference in lives, because this standing around dressed like an ancient professor of tosserdom, bears no relation to a life claimed to be led by love or Jesus or whatever he supposedly believes

Deep breathes...pointless ranting over

[Churchhoney]

11 minutes ago, Totally said:

I can’t reconcile a supposed life serving people with his obsession with clothes and perfection

I try to imagine Jerm working with the homeless or disadvantaged. It seems his idea of being a minister/pastor is standing at a pulpit preaching and maybe socialising with a coffee afterwards 

Where is the grassroots desire to be making a difference in lives?

if you are spending so much time concerned about clothes and your appearance can you have any real desire to make a difference in lives? 

Jerm makes me see red, I want to fling my iPad across the room every time his smarmy tossy face shows up 

Go and do something that actually makes a difference in lives, because this standing around dressed like an ancient professor of tosserdom, bears no relation to a life claimed to be led by love or Jesus or whatever he supposedly believes

Deep breathes...pointless ranting over

All he cares about is standing up high where people can see him, looking -- by his lights -- great, and telling everybody what to do.

As far as I can tell, he's not for one second given any indication that anything but that and only that is his sole ambition and interest in life. 

Being fond of his own pretty baby girl be damned. Many crap people "love" their own kids. Especially when those kids are pretty and smiley.

When you're crap, the kid is an embodiment of your own damn DNA running around with everybody saying how cute it is. That's Jer. And it's the same reason so many people insist that "Awww, Jim Bob loves eez kiddzzz." 

Jim Bob and Jer. They love the sight of their own pretty DNA. 

Partly because of all the people who think his behavior is actually fine and appropriate, I've given him some benefit of my doubt up to now. But that ends today. He's an asshole of the highest order and as unsuited to be a pastor as anybody I've ever seen. .... And there  are plenty of world-class assholes 'pastoring' out there, so that's saying something.

Edited May 4, 2019 by Churchhoney

[Oldernowiser]

Good grief that’s $95 U.S.

For a nonfunctional handkerchief.

What an asshole.

[Sew Sumi]

On 4/24/2019 at 4:16 PM, BigBingerBro said:

Not sure where this quote box came from. 

@TotallyNotFamous (can't delete this, either) aka @Totally nailed it. 

He's the ultimate tosser.

[BigBingerBro]

It's becoming more and more obvious that Jer sees himself more as a upper-class theologian, rather than a pastor.  He has no desire or use for helping others less fortunate than him.  It's all about his "brand" at this point.  Perhaps his classmates at bible college will purchase expensive handkerchiefs, since they all have to dress to a certain standard there anyway.  

[bigskygirl]

13 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Not sure where this quote box came from. 

@TotallyNotFamous (can't delete this, either) aka @Totally nailed it. 

He's the ultimate tosser.

He makes me ultimately toss my cookies (and no, I am not talking about the cookies Jill made with Izzy and Sam.)

[BitterApple]

Jeremy is proving to be a doozy. I don't have an issue with him being into nice clothing, because hey, we all have our vices, but he's chosen faith and the church as his livelihood. I feel like he has a responsibility to do more than wear fancy suits and spout a few Bible verses on Sundays. For an alleged Pastor, his walk with God is incredibly shallow and one-sided.

[babyhouseman]

58 minutes ago, Lunera said:

Whoa, JerMe finally got a sponsor for fancy European mens clothing store. Wonder how long he's been badgering them, or how many of his silly followers wil actually make a purchase. Of course, he put it on IG stories to avoid the bad commentary. 

That silly little pocket square will set you back 85 euros.

I know it's self-serving on his part, but at least he's bringing a little class to the Duggars. I'm sure they didn't learn about Rembrandt at the School of the Dining Room Table. The biggest word they learned was perpendicular. I can imagine the Duggars would use these to blow their noses. 

[Churchhoney]

9 minutes ago, babyhouseman said:

I know it's self-serving on his part, but at least he's bringing a little class to the Duggars. I'm sure they didn't learn about Rembrandt at the School of the Dining Room Table. The biggest word they learned was perpendicular. I can imagine the Duggars would use these to blow their noses. 

I'd bet real money Jer doesn't know anything substantive about Rembrandt either. Nor does he care about Rembrandt. Or art.

His approach to his religion makes it quite clear that he has close to no intellect and absolutely no soul, if you ask me. And the way he dresses often suggests that he doesn't even know much about his real obsession -- looking good and fashionable. Those calf-colored loafers and the pale-blue socks, anyone? 

I expect all he knows in this case is that famous old European paintings suggest sophistication, class and money to many people. And he wants that image.

And he's stupid and shallow enough to think he can get it by shilling some pricey joke handkerchief. 

Of course I guess it's only appropriate for the Duggars' only source of class to be a striving ass who's fundamentally just as stupid and ignorant as they are. 

Edited May 4, 2019 by Churchhoney

[Absolom]

25 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Jeremy is proving to be a doozy. I don't have an issue with him being into nice clothing, because hey, we all have our vices, but he's chosen faith and the church as his livelihood. I feel like he has a responsibility to do more than wear fancy suits and spout a few Bible verses on Sundays. For an alleged Pastor, his walk with God is incredibly shallow and one-sided.

There is a reason in some churches they would call Jeremy a preacher and not a pastor.  That's all the leader is good for and usually they aren't even really good preachers.  

[fonfereksglen]

1 hour ago, Lunera said:

Whoa, JerMe finally got a sponsor for fancy European mens clothing store. Wonder how long he's been badgering them, or how many of his silly followers wil actually make a purchase. Of course, he put it on IG stories to avoid the bad commentary. 

That silly little pocket square will set you back 85 euros.

Dude.  I've been to the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam.  Seen the Dutch Masters' paintings up close.  You should be ashamed shilling that absurd pocket square.   This will come back to haunt your career.

[Churchhoney]

5 minutes ago, Absolom said:

There is a reason in some churches they would call Jeremy a preacher and not a pastor.  That's all the leader is good for and usually they aren't even really good preachers.  

...as in this case....   ;  )

Edited May 4, 2019 by Churchhoney

[Oldernowiser]

I am baffled as to where this guy gets his confidence about his looks. He’s average-plus good looking with a receding hairline and a jawline that’s headed toward jowldom.

You aren’t exactly turning heads, Jer.

[Churchhoney]

4 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

I am baffled as to where this guy gets his confidence about his looks. He’s average-plus good looking with a receding hairline and a jawline that’s headed toward jowldom.

You aren’t exactly turning heads, Jer.

In addition to the looks question, where does he get his confidence in his intelligence, his preaching ability, his wit .... 

Just call him Jeremy Dunning-Kruger. 

Fortunately for him, a lot of people take you at your own valuation. 

Edited May 4, 2019 by Churchhoney

[DangerousMinds]

1 hour ago, Churchhoney said:

I'd bet real money Jer doesn't know anything substantive about Rembrandt either. Nor does he care about Rembrandt. Or art.

His approach to his religion makes it quite clear that he has close to no intellect and absolutely no soul, if you ask me. And the way he dresses often suggests that he doesn't even know much about his real obsession -- looking good and fashionable. Those calf-colored loafers and the pale-blue socks, anyone? 

I expect all he knows in this case is that famous old European paintings suggest sophistication, class and money to many people. And he wants that image.

And he's stupid and shallow enough to think he can get it by shilling some pricey joke handkerchief. 

Of course I guess it's only appropriate for the Duggars' only source of class to be a striving ass who's fundamentally just as stupid and ignorant as they are. 

No one with real sophistication and class is going to be impressed by him. And especially not with a Duggar wife.

[EmeraldGirl]

I know he’s a poser, but I’d rather hear someone talk about fashion and art than pregnancy. Although I’m sure they’ll that too soon enough. 

[Zella]

I used to think that Jeremy, despite being a smug, pretentious ass, was a smug, pretentious ass who could play the social media game better than his in-laws. That post has remedied me of that line of thinking. 

[Zella]

I would really like to hear why Rembrandt is his favorite painter and which Rembrandt is his favorite. I'm not convinced that he can provide a coherent explanation.

And I say this as someone who has part of her favorite painting from her favorite painter as her profile picture! Caravaggio, FTW! 

[JoanArc]

 That snot rag wouldn't sell for more than $10 at your local hot topic. 

I never found Jeremy that physically attractive, but now I’m getting actively repulsed by him. He’s not Durwood level yet,  but he’s the bottom of the barrel otherwise in Duggar spouses.  

What a bullshitter. 

[Lunera]

Most of the comments are about how cute Felicity is. Lol they don't even have the products he's shilling in stock yet. 🙄😂

[Lunera]

I'm sure that woman is going to end up going to Walmart for that tie.

[JoanArc]

3 minutes ago, Lunera said:

I'm sure that woman is going to end up going to Walmart for that tie.

Citrus & Lemon Spouses, for when you want everyone to know you overpaid. 

[Churchhoney]

Nice that he's using Felicity in his commercials, too. 

He's a chip off the old Jim Bob block. 

Not as careful with his clothing budget, however. 

Edited May 5, 2019 by Churchhoney

[Zella]

1 minute ago, Churchhoney said:

Nice that he's using Felicity in his commercials, too. 

He's a chip off the old Jim Bob block. 

Not as careful with his clothing budget, though, however. 

He didn't get the "buy used, save the difference" memo. 😀

[bigskygirl]

I probably will end up in you know where for saying this, but I was secretly hoping the baby would pee, poop or throw up on Jermeme's nice clothes.

[Sew Sumi]

Baby puke on that handmade $250 tie would be sweet!

[NotthebadVictoria]

Idk why but he reminds me of Bill Rancic. And I see his future being the same, someone who gets millions just to talk about nothing.

[Churchhoney]

23 minutes ago, NotthebadVictoria said:

Idk why but he reminds me of Bill Rancic. And I see his future being the same, someone who gets millions just to talk about nothing.

I'm sure he'd love that. But have you heard him preach? He's no BIll Rancic. Horrible speaking voice, no wit, no charisma, no ability to think or adapt on his feet. Utter inability to feign being relatable or express self-deprecating humor even to the tiniest degree -- which basically disqualifies him from success as a speaker to general audiences. 

He's so far below a fair-to-middling speaker-personality like Rancic that it isn't even funny. And he's already way too old to have the excuse of being a beginner or the time to somehow develop all these talents that God didn't give him. 

He'll have to get wherever he gets purely by sucking up -- as opposed to just half-to-two-thirds by sucking up the way Rancic has.

He may well succeed in being some guy like MacArthur's little suck-up toady who gets to follow the boss around and run a few sideshows. He is a world-class suck-up and he has the Duggar followers and the Duggar name to sell. But he lacks any ability as a speaker outside the preacher realm.

And even in that realm he lurks somewhere barely at or below average. Even in a church where he's sucked up and where Duggar fame matters, nobody will fork over millions for that. 

Edited May 5, 2019 by Churchhoney

[leighdear]

My dad has several fine art printed pocket squares he bought in London years ago. One is a stunning Klimt Tree of Life that I actually tried to snag to get framed for my bedroom.  I never managed to pull it off.

The photos in this thread compared to the photos in the other married couples threads just amaze me.  It's truly is like looking at a real Rembrandt and comparing it to a framed Elvis portrait on velvet.   

I like seeing attractive things and people.  YMMV. 

[mynextmistake]

14 minutes ago, leighdear said:

My dad has several fine art printed pocket squares he bought in London years ago. One is a stunning Klimt Tree of Life that I actually tried to snag to get framed for my bedroom.  I never managed to pull it off.

The photos in this thread compared to the photos in the other married couples threads just amaze me.  It's truly is like looking at a real Rembrandt and comparing it to a framed Elvis portrait on velvet.   

I like seeing attractive things and people.  YMMV.9

1 hour ago, Lunera said:

Most of the comments are about how cute Felicity is. Lol they don't even have the products he's shilling in stock yet. 🙄😂

To be fair, Felicity is a doll. I wish they’d stop putting bows on her head, though. She looks goofy.

[Oldernowiser]

How’s that go again, Jer?

”Beware false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their $250 silk neckties.”

Pretentious ass.

[BrianJ1962]

6 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

How’s that go again, Jer?

”Beware false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their $250 silk neckties.”

Pretentious ass.

Praise the Lord and pass the almighty dollars

[Zella]

It's starting to feel like a revival in here! 😂🤣😂

[lookeyloo]

8 hours ago, leighdear said:

My dad has several fine art printed pocket squares he bought in London years ago. One is a stunning Klimt Tree of Life that I actually tried to snag to get framed for my bedroom.  I never managed to pull it off.

The photos in this thread compared to the photos in the other married couples threads just amaze me.  It's truly is like looking at a real Rembrandt and comparing it to a framed Elvis portrait on velvet.   

I like seeing attractive things and people.  YMMV. 

And I have one of those velvet Elvis things. My brother sent it to me as a joke. Jeremy seems to bite his fingernails. How has he not managed to show off his manly manicure - can’t. 

[Churchhoney]

9 hours ago, Zella said:

It's starting to feel like a revival in here! 😂🤣😂

Wait... Jer says he wants a revival. So I guess this was really his super-clever way of starting one!     😀

Here's my thought about the $250 ties and $95 handkerchiefs:

He's still the pastor of a church in Laredo. To me, being in that job would require empathy with the people around you and a focus on their concerns, not yours.  

Here are the current income stats for Laredo: 
- The average income of a Laredo resident is $15,127 a year. The US average is $28,555 a year. 
- The Median household income of a Laredo resident is $39,408 a year. The US average is $53,482 a year.

Where is his focus? On $250 ties and $95 handkerchiefs that are so far out of the budget of most of the people he's supposed to be reaching out to in love and concern that it's ridiculous.

And why has he posted online about his tie and handkerchief? Not even to say that there are beautiful things in the world and that he's extremely lucky, blessed and grateful to be able to have some of them. Nope. He posted it as an advertisement which, if it works as he intended it, will mean he can get more of these things. 

To me, those are the wrong values and concerns for somebody in  his position. To me, that makes him a shallow dumb-ass with no empathy of any kind. 

I do think that the line in his post where he said he always loved to dress up in nice clothes from the time he was a little kid may mean he feels a tad guilty about this stuff. But even if that is true, it obviously isn't stopping him. 

Edited May 5, 2019 by Churchhoney

[BigBingerBro]

9 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Wait... Jer says he wants a revival. So I guess this was really his super-clever way of starting one!     😀

Oh has he now?  I've come to equate a pastor calling for a revival meaning that they want butts in seats tithing so they can rack in the $$$, not surprising from Jer.

Edited May 5, 2019 by BigBingerBro

[bythelake]

14 hours ago, babyhouseman said:

I know it's self-serving on his part, but at least he's bringing a little class to the Duggars. I'm sure they didn't learn about Rembrandt at the School of the Dining Room Table. The biggest word they learned was perpendicular. I can imagine the Duggars would use these to blow their noses. 

Well, now they can all learn the word narcissism.

“Children today at the SODRT we’re going to learn about narcissism, and I’ve brought Uncle Jeremy along as an example.” “ Can you pronounce narcissism?”

They also learned bankruptcy which actually may come in handy in the lean years ahead when they all go bust.

[Churchhoney]

Since I'm on a ranting roll (rolling rant?), I thought about the oft-heard argument that Jer's a premium Duggar adjacent because his religious compatriots have a kinder view of women than the Duggars do. 

But the the-woman-is-always-responsible-for-male-sins thing is pretty pervasive and it's part of the MacArthur culture, too. One of the things that's alleged about his schools is a rape cover-up including demands that a raped woman apologize to her rapist -- who was a stranger to her -- for the clothes she was wearing when he attacked her. 

'A former student, who goes by Jane, penned an open letter about her sexual assault at the institution, and revealed she was forced to apologize to her attacker who allegedly raped and drugged her....

'Pastor MacArthur and Rick Holland, the pastor for the church affiliated with the college, got involved. According to Jane, Rick told her that Pastor MacArthur thinks she should be disciplined for drinking, doing drugs, and almost dancing — and threatens to kick her out of the school.

'"He is angry at me for going to the police and the doctor. I should have let the church handle this without outside interference," she explained. "He tells me not to tell anyone else, not my fellow classmates, not my teachers, not anyone at church." He goes on to accuse her of ruining the young man's life.

'Her attacker eventually confesses to his "sin" — but Jane is still asked to apologize to him for the "dress she was wearing at the bar" and for drinking. "[Rick] says I caused this young man to stumble, and he is incensed that I have not dropped the charges with the police," Jane wrote. " I am told that the stranger and I have committed this sin together and therefore we must work through it together. I must agree to sit next to the stranger in church every week."'

Sounds pretty much like JB's and M's whole keep-treating-Joshley-like-the-young-head-of-the-family-after-the-molestation-thing-and-oh-for-God's-sake-sweep-it-totally-under-the-rug incident, no? 

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jeremy-vuolo-masters-seminary-160113/

Edited May 5, 2019 by Churchhoney

[Zella]

1 hour ago, Churchhoney said:

Wait... Jer says he wants a revival. So I guess this was really his super-clever way of starting one!     😀

Here's my thought about the $250 ties and $95 handkerchiefs:

He's still the pastor of a church in Laredo. To me, being in that job would require empathy with the people around you and a focus on their concerns, not yours.  

Here are the current income stats for Laredo: 
- The average income of a Laredo resident is $15,127 a year. The US average is $28,555 a year. 
- The Median household income of a Laredo resident is $39,408 a year. The US average is $53,482 a year.

Where is his focus? On $250 ties and $95 handkerchiefs that are so far out of the budget of most of the people he's supposed to be reaching out to in love and concern that it's ridiculous.

And why has he posted online about his tie and handkerchief? Not even to say that there are beautiful things in the world and that he's extremely lucky, blessed and grateful to be able to have some of them. Nope. He posted it as an advertisement which, if it works as he intended it, will mean he can get more of these things. 

To me, those are the wrong values and concerns for somebody in  his position. To me, that makes him a shallow dumb-ass with no empathy of any kind. 

I do think that the line in his post where he said he always loved to dress up in nice clothes from the time he was a little kid may mean he feels a tad guilty about this stuff. But even if that is true, it obviously isn't stopping him. 

I wish I could like this more than once.

I know we all have our indulgences and guilty pleasures, and if nice clothing is Jeremy's, that's fine. To each his own. Mine are books. 

However, his behavior is extremely unbecoming for an alleged man of God.

If Jeremy had ever once seemed to give the slightest shit about his parishioners, I might be able to overlook it. But he has never once seemed genuinely invested in them or their lives. In fact, he seems to try to avoid them as much as humanly possible. He's just all about status symbols that he thinks makes him look cool.