S06.E07: The Broken Man

[Drogo]

5 hours ago, Lady S. said:

But can someone explain the guy who was hanged? Have we heard about him? First I thought he was the Blackfish, building a trebuchet. Then I thought he was part of the Brotherhood without Banners--but those menacing dudes (who I guess ended up killing everyone) were actually the BWB? I thought the BWB was essentially good? What gives?

At first I thought the main "bad" guy in the middle was Euron Greyjoy. That's why I was shocked when he quoted Lord of Light's "Night Dark Terror Blah Blah" when he was just baptized by the Drowned God and the Iron Islands Cryptkeeper. 

Also, it looked kind of green to be the somber Iron Islands.  Definitely Brotherhood without Banners.  And I should stop drinking.

Edited June 6, 2016 by Drogo
Swapped photo for one from current episode.

[RedHawk]

Ok, could it be that the Waif and Arya exchanged faces? I just know there's some twist coming. It's just too implausible that the actors will somehow know a medical worker who is so skilled she can save Arya from those clearly mortal wounds.

[candall]

56 minutes ago, kdm07 said:

The best writing on the show was at the beginning when D&D had plenty of source material to work with. We're now seeing what happens when they're left to their own devices [...]

Excellent observation.  They probably eliminated characters and stories in the beginning because there was such abundance and they wanted to keep everything tight.  Now the stories are just dribbling out at a snail's pace and there are way too many threads for too little time. 

I love Tyrion and Ian McShane, but I didn't really need to hear the negotiations with the pro-slavers subsidizing the Sons of the Harpy or the backstory from the man who patched up The Hound.

Three episodes left and one of them will be spent on a big whizz-bang battle.  Can we get some of these bleeders tied off before the end?  Maybe focus on a big storyline--like more than two minutes on The High Sparrow OR Arya?  I like tiny badass Lady Mormont, too, but it's kind of sad that her new character was the highlight of the episode.

[The Mighty Peanut]

My admittedly pitiful knowledge of gut wounds is that they leave the victim in agony for hours or days before the person dies. Wouldn't a skilled healer be able to help Arya in that time? There are a lot of things on this show that require more fan wanking than I'm comfortable with, but I'm ok with the Waif somehow missing Arya's vital organs by a centimeter and leaving her with a terrible but survivable trauma to her stomach and intestines.

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[candall]

5 hours ago, The Mighty Peanut said:

My admittedly pitiful knowledge of gut wounds is that they leave the victim in agony for hours or days before the person dies. Wouldn't a skilled healer be able to help Arya in that time? There are a lot of things on this show that require more fan wanking than I'm comfortable with, but I'm ok with the Waif somehow missing Arya's vital organs by a centimeter and leaving her with a terrible but survivable trauma to her stomach and intestines.

This is essentially what I'm complaining about.  I think we were all primed to see Arya and Needle settle The Waif's hash once and for all, but now Arya's dripping down the street in serious need of medical intervention and the Waif's going to have an even bigger chip on her shoulder.

Hey, how lucky there's a theatre troupe in the vicinity with someone who owes her and someone who resents her.  Arya can spend a few episodes with them while she's recuperating.  List?  What list?

Edited June 6, 2016 by candall

[revbfc]

38 minutes ago, RedHawk said:

Ok, could it be that the Waif and Arya exchanged faces? I just know there's some twist coming. It's just too implausible that the actors will somehow know a medical worker who is so skilled she can save Arya from those clearly mortal wounds.

Maybe.  My reading of the event was that the waif disobeyed her orders to not let Arya suffer.  Now the waif has to suffer consequences for her actions as Arya did.  Had she just slit Arya's throat (or any number of quick killing moves she's learned) she would have shown her loyalty to the letter and spirit of her orders.  But, NOOOO!  She had to get all emotional about it and now Arya's in the wind.  There will be consequences for her failure, and they won't be pretty.

[RedHawk]

Arya being out and about without Needle, knowing she was a target, has to mean something. Doesn't it? If they don't resolve this storyline (how she gets help) next week I'm going to be soooo annoyed.

Edited June 6, 2016 by RedHawk

[AliShibaz]

2 hours ago, Arnella said:

3 episodes to go, right? Still introducing new/old characters (Hound Septon,Little Lady), no sight of those whose story line we really care about (Tyrion, Brienne), and dragging out what little we do see of others (Arya - we know she isn't going to die SHOW).  

I'm feeling that the season will end with a muddled mess of cliffhangers with nothing resolved for anybody.  OR just put everybody in place for separate battles that I don't care about that may or may not happen next season.  Yara/Theon v Uncle.  Jon/Sansa v Bolton (just send in a freakin assassin to kill Ramsey and be DONE).  Jamie stuck at a siege...maybe with Brienne... still don't care...

OH and pluuuuuueeeesse have Margery crush the Sparrow and begin her power play against Cersei by the end of the season.

I must agree. Although I have no idea just how Margery intends to defeat the Sparrow, I sure hope she succeeds. But this show is well known for delivering heartbreak. Surely there will be some big heartbreak before the end of this season. Could it be that the Sparrow actually turns the tables and arranges for Margery to die?

[AliShibaz]

10 minutes ago, revbfc said:

Maybe.  My reading of the event was that the waif disobeyed her orders to not let Arya suffer.  Now the waif has to suffer consequences for her actions as Arya did.  Had she just slit Arya's throat (or any number of quick killing moves she's learned) she would have shown her loyalty to the letter and spirit of her orders.  But, NOOOO!  She had to get all emotional about it and now Arya's in the wind.  There will be consequences for her failure, and they won't be pretty.

Right. So many people seem to think the wounds Arya received were intended to be mortal. People have said the waif stabbed her in vital organs. But it seemed to me that she deliberately missed the vital organs. All the stabbing went to the stomach. None to the heart. None to the liver. I'm not a doctor. But what is the truth of this? Was it just bad writing? Or was it some kind of deliberate deception? Something just ain't right in Denmark. (there is a famous line from Shakespear about something being rotten in Denmark. Isn't there?)

[LuciaMia]

My first thought when the episode started "By Gar, its a good-old-fashioned barn raising!"

This episode definitely had a three steps forward, two steps back feel to me. The Starks need troops, but doesn't look like they;ll be getting them anytime soon. Aryas reclaimed her sword and herself but it looks like she won't make it thru the next five minutes. Jaimies in for a long siege. Margerys got some kind of plan going, but under the conditions she's struggling under, who knows how long before she can act?
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Ugh, and thanks Show for reminding me what an insanely violent world GOT always is. Those three horseman slaughter ALL those people for a few cabbages and a couple of knifes they might have had hidden? Sheeeeeesh.

[myname2use4now]

Anyone else think the High Sparrow is somewhat smitten with Queen Margery? Also, is there anything in that scripture that says the High Sparrow can't have a bath once in a while?

[SillyOldClothCat]

  2 hours ago, RCharter said:

She is the cutest.  I wonder if she and Arya would have been friends or mortal enemies.  I hope Lyanna is rewarded for keeping the faith, and I would love it if she made Ser Davos her adviser.  I think those two would be great together, now that Shirleen is gone.

Psst, I advise you not to call her "cute" to her face!

I've started this whole plotline in my head where Rickon and Lyanna marry, and along with badass sis-in-law Arya, Lyanna rules the North. Ser Davos would be their excellent advisor and Bran would be their Maester.

Sansa and Jon, being of the screw-everything-up older generation, would be married off to lesser houses. 

"I've started this whole plotline in my head where Rickon and Lyanna marry, and along with badass sis-in-law Arya, Lyanna rules the North. Ser Davos would be their excellent advisor and Bran would be their Maester."

YES! I think we might be mentally co-authoring the same fan fic

[Cyranetta]

The opening is rather disorienting. It's too green to be the Iron Islands, so the workers aren't likely to be building ships. When we see the construction itself, it doesn't look like much of a fortification, other than possibly a watch-tower. People on the whole just seem too happy for the world we've come to know. The reveal of The Hound is further disorienting.
After the ep was over, it struck me that this opening was a kind of Westerosi lost Eden, a small pocket free of the "entangling alliances" of church, state and family on display for the rest of the ep.
We find that the character played by Ian McShane is, in fact, a religious figure, but one in strong contrast to the High Sparrow. It's also slightly disorienting to see McShane play such a jovial character, like Dickens' Ghost of Christmas Past, but once the initial jolt of recognition was over, the character itself was one of such charm that I wished he would last longer than the one episode.
McShane's septon is a spiritual healer by nature, but the healing of The Book of the Mother Margaery studies is healing by force, and the religion of the Sparrows is a far stronger blend of religion and politics that the group in the greenwood. Margaery is learning to wield ritual as a weapon, much as she has wielded her sexual appeal in the past.
Sansa, Jon Snow and crew aren't paying much attention tot he alliances of religion, but family and politics are entangled. The wildings self-reference as "free folk" runs in parallel to the folk with whom The Hound is working.
Alliances are chains not just to free folk, but to sometime opponents Cersei and Olenna the new chains of alliance are bitter to bear.
Bronn's chains of alliance are golden, and later Arya also uses gold to get the potential alliance of the ship's captain.
The Blackfish must weigh the worth of family chains of alliance vs. the chains of responsibility as leader of Riverrun.
Davos' previous chains of affectionate alliance with Shireen serve him well in dealing with the young Queen of Mormont, allowing a new alliance to be won, but alliances of the houses once pledged to Stark have become knotted or broken.
The three knights who lay waste to McAShane's lost Eden say the serve the Red God, but what does that mean besides luxuriating in the red of bloodshed? The night may be dark, and full of terrors, but does the day have to be equally terrifying?
We were anticipating an attack by The Waif on Arya, but the assumption was that it would be secretly in the dark, not in the light of a market day, and because it came from behind, Arya's newly-recovered Needle was useless. It could be that Arya is done for, but it would make all her journey for nothing and an ultimate disappointment.
Chains of alliance can bind or break, so which ones will be stronger before Winter comes?

Edited June 6, 2016 by Cyranetta
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[MrWhyt]

1 hour ago, Save Yourself said:

Why does Arya want to go to the Iron Islands? 

she doesn't.

[Save Yourself]

32 minutes ago, AliShibaz said:

Right. So many people seem to think the wounds Arya received were intended to be mortal. People have said the waif stabbed her in vital organs. But it seemed to me that she deliberately missed the vital organs. All the stabbing went to the stomach. None to the heart. None to the liver. I'm not a doctor. But what is the truth of this? Was it just bad writing? Or was it some kind of deliberate deception? Something just ain't right in Denmark. (there is a famous line from Shakespear about something being rotten in Denmark. Isn't there?)

The sheer amount of blood loss would kill her - they were 3 deep stabs into her abdomen with the knife being twisted at the end and blood was pouring out of her. It also looked like the knife was going into or near her right kidney in one of the thrusts so she'd suffer kidney failure at some stage. It would be likely that even if she survived the stabbings she'd develop peritonitis or some other infection. So we'll just have to handwave however she manages to survive, hopefully it will be some type of magic to make it a little more 'believable'. 

[Save Yourself]

11 minutes ago, MrWhyt said:

she doesn't.

Oh ta, I just had a rewatch, the first time I thought she'd overheard the shipman say that he was going to the Iron Islands but he was just talking about them. 

[GrailKing]

The letter another view:

[izabella]

1 hour ago, candall said:

The best writing on the show was at the beginning when D&D had plenty of source material to work with. We're now seeing what happens when they're left to their own devices [...]

Oh man, you mean the writing that brought us three seasons (or more, I lost count) of repetitive Ramsey torture porn, and repetitive Arya/Hound wandering, and White Walkers who have apparently lost their map and compass since they haven't moved from where they were on Day 1?

I agree the first season was the best, but I'd argue it's because the story line was just getting started and we still had all the adults and things were at least moving.  The story hasn't been getting anywhere fast for years now.

[DarkRaichu]

As much as I like Arya, I thought she should have died from the stab wounds AND falling to the canal.  The girl was stupid for letting her guard down while still in Braavos.  Boo for missed opportunity.

Ian McShane should teach a master class on how to get as much impact from as little screen time an actor gets.  He was that damn good and convincing in those scenes.

Speaking of acting, Natalie Dormer was great at emoting expressions on Margeary face

Hmm, Olenna might not survive this season :(

And here I thought Theon's original plan was to go back and helped Sansa.  So the Ironborns were heading to Meereen afterall.  Yara needs to find her own plans instead of copying her elders.

[izabella]

1 hour ago, AliShibaz said:

Right. So many people seem to think the wounds Arya received were intended to be mortal. People have said the waif stabbed her in vital organs. But it seemed to me that she deliberately missed the vital organs. All the stabbing went to the stomach. None to the heart. None to the liver. I'm not a doctor. But what is the truth of this? Was it just bad writing? Or was it some kind of deliberate deception? Something just ain't right in Denmark. (there is a famous line from Shakespear about something being rotten in Denmark. Isn't there?)

We have miles of intenstines in our abdomens.  Multiple gut stabs would perforate those intestines and all the bacteria and waste would leak into the abdominal cavity causing a raging infection and death.  So, even if she didn't bleed out from all those wounds, even if the Waif missed vital organs, there's no way she missed all the intestines.

[FormerMod-a1]

I can't believe I actually Googled "do stabs to  the gut lead to instant death" but I did.  However, that was at home and I'm now at work and do not want to repeat that search here.   Some might, but many do not.  Even before I did my "research" I knew they didn't.  So I've got no problem with Arya stumbling around.  

[candall]

That dip in the water where the whole town tosses out the marketplace trash (and their chamber pots) didn't help either.

[DarkRaichu]

Poor Tommen, after months of  separation and all of the things he had to do to get Margeary out, she did not want anything to do with his newfound hobby. :D

[Save Yourself]

9 minutes ago, aquarian1 said:

I can't believe I actually Googled "do stabs to  the gut lead to instant death" but I did.  However, that was at home and I'm now at work and do not want to repeat that search here.   Some might, but many do not.  Even before I did my "research" I knew they didn't.  So I've got no problem with Arya stumbling around.  

When they are appropriately treated in our world they aren't always lethal but in this case, multiple deep stab wounds with no blood transfusion, medicine, sterile operating theatres, skilled surgeons? She'd be a goner. The theory that she set the Waif up and was wearing blood packs obtained from the Cersei actress is gaining traction in the fandom so maybe that is how she is going to escape death. I thought she looked way too surprised and scared for this to be true but it would explain why she was being so careless.

[Drogo]

No fooling around with Tommen seems a good move by Margaery; she can tell the High Sparrow that Tommen can't perform with the Shamey Septa's constant presence and the High Sparrow will have her back off to allow the couple some "congress" privacy.  What Margaery really needs is time alone with Tommen to get his head on track, and this should afford her that.

[izabella]

Having sex with Tommen is lose-lose for Margaery.  The High Septon has no need to be concerned for Tommen's sex life, and Marg's wifely "duties" except as a trap.  If Marg gets pregnant, then she's guilty of having a half-incest baby with a pretender to the Throne once the Septon manages to denounce Tommen (and why wouldn't he?).

[revbfc]

6 minutes ago, izabella said:

Having sex with Tommen is lose-lose for Margaery.  The High Septon has no need to be concerned for Tommen's sex life, and Marg's wifely "duties" except as a trap.  If Marg gets pregnant, then she's guilty of having a half-incest baby with a pretender to the Throne once the Septon manages to denounce Tommen (and why wouldn't he?).

A "tender trap," if you will allow.

[dangwoodchucks]

My first thought when Arya was getting stabbed was that we were going to see her wake up and find that it was a nightmare.

The blood pack theory could be true, and she might act out her death where people could see it, and then slip away. But how could she know where the Waif would stab her?

[izabella]

The Waif would have slit Arya's throat if she were trying to kill her.  She had no reason not to, and Arya would be dead except "plot armor."

[DarkRaichu]

7 minutes ago, izabella said:

Having sex with Tommen is lose-lose for Margaery.  The High Septon has no need to be concerned for Tommen's sex life, and Marg's wifely "duties" except as a trap.  If Marg gets pregnant, then she's guilty of having a half-incest baby with a pretender to the Throne once the Septon manages to denounce Tommen (and why wouldn't he?).

I got the impression HS wanted to be the puppetmaster who controls the kings/queens of westeros as supposed sit on Iron Throne himself.  To that end he would need a dinasty to influence, thus his insistence on an heir for Tommen.  

[MissLucas]

I would like Arya's wounds to be fake and the blood being props obtained from Lady Crane. But if not - I'll just shrug it off. I once read an article how eunuchs for the Chinese imperial court were produced - let's skip the details and just say Theon still being alive is just as much a miracle as Arya recovering from several stab-wounds to her internal organs.

I don't care for the Hound and his not that impressive ax-wielding skills nor his little adventure with those Essos-Quakers. Though they did provide a different take on the cult of the Seven.

As for the rest: I'm getting tired of even Northerners (with the exception of Lady Mormont) not being able to see the big picture. But then I remember how back in the pilot when Ned executed the frantic deserter I was thinking: 'Hmm, maybe someone should listen to what this guy has to say - it sounds kinda important.' And now we're in season 6 and the White Walkers are looking more and more like the gnomes in HP after some 'gnome-control' - stumbling around aimlessly beyond the premise they want to infiltrate with no sense of direction how to actually get there. Sheesh, no wonder nobody takes their threat seriously. Same goes for Winter who is sure as hell not coming from the looks of it.

[DarkRaichu]

3 hours ago, Drogo said:

At first I thought the main "bad" guy in the middle was Euron Greyjoy. That's why I was shocked when he quoted Lord of Light's "Night Dark Terror Blah Blah" when he was just baptized by the Drowned God and the Iron Islands Cryptkeeper. 

Also, it looked kind of green to be the somber Iron Islands.  Definitely Brotherhood without Banners.  And I should stop drinking.

Are they supposed to be the real Brotherhood or just some people pretending to be them?  IIRC the Brotherhood traveled on foot, not on the back of horses

[SillyOldClothCat]

  36 minutes ago, aquarian1 said:

I can't believe I actually Googled "do stabs to  the gut lead to instant death" but I did.  However, that was at home and I'm now at work and do not want to repeat that search here.   Some might, but many do not.  Even before I did my "research" I knew they didn't.  So I've got no problem with Arya stumbling around.  

When they are appropriately treated in our world they aren't always lethal but in this case, multiple deep stab wounds with no blood transfusion, medicine, sterile operating theatres, skilled surgeons? She'd be a goner. The theory that she set the Waif up and was wearing blood packs obtained from the Cersei actress is gaining traction in the fandom so maybe that is how she is going to escape death. I thought she looked way too surprised and scared for this to be true but it would explain why she was being so careless.

Ooh! I like this Waif set-up idea, because (given Arya's training in the AssassinArts) I would have expected her to stay in hiding and avoid every other human being, because everyone was potentially an assassin in face-disguise. It would put some of earlier dialogue from the actress she was supposed to kill about playing roles in a new light. Also, Arya can now escape with the theatre troupe! I like this theory and am determined to stick with it.

[LuciaMia]

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with the exception of Lady Mormont

Did she remind anyone else of Paul's little sister from the movie "Dune"? Even to her little hoodie.

[Drogo]

14 minutes ago, DarkRaichu said:

Are they supposed to be the real Brotherhood or just some people pretending to be them?  IIRC the Brotherhood traveled on foot, not on the back of horses

They were also supposed to protect the poor/weak instead of slaughtering entire communities of them.  Must be new management in the cave. 

[revbfc]

16 minutes ago, LuciaMia said:

Did she remind anyone else of Paul's little sister from the movie "Dune"? Even to her little hoodie.

Yes, but a lot more pragmatic and a lot less creepy.

[truelovekiss]

9 hours ago, BookElitist said:

Young Lady Mormont IS tough sμ¡+. But, (ha!) she sounds rather like a young Draco Malfoy.

Uughu, Sansa. Jon watch your back.

 

I'm confident that Sansa will ruin everything by being a stupid girl with stupid dreams, as she does. Littlefinger got into her head with his "halfbrother" jab, and when Jon didn't listen to her about getting more men, it just set her off to go rogue. They don't fully trust each other, and I think that if they don't fix their relationship, it will hurt them in trying to take back Winterfell and saving Rickon.

4 hours ago, RCharter said:

She is the cutest.  I wonder if she and Arya would have been friends or mortal enemies.  I hope Lyanna is rewarded for keeping the faith, and I would love it if she made Ser Davos her adviser.  I think those two would be great together, now that Shirleen is gone.

My first impression of Lyanna Mormont was that she was just like Arya, and she was close to the age Arya was the last time Jon and Sansa saw her. So I was surprised that they had such a difficult time relating to her, especially Jon. I'm glad Ser Davos had a moment, though. 

1 hour ago, GrailKing said:

The letter another view:

Speaking of the letter, I hardly think that sending ravens with military strategy is the best idea. She really should have written something like "remember what you offered the last time we saw each other? I'll take you up on that."

38 minutes ago, DarkRaichu said:

I got the impression HS wanted to be the puppetmaster who controls the kings/queens of westeros as supposed sit on Iron Throne himself.  To that end he would need a dinasty to influence, thus his insistence on an heir for Tommen.  

I agree with this. I don't think the High Sparrow has any interest in dethroning Tommen, even if he is a bastard of incest. He's weak willed enough to manipulate with ease.  He also knows that Margaery is much stronger and smarter than Tommen, but having a child would weaken her. Like Cersei says, love is weakness.  She obviously doesn't love Tommen, (she might be fond or care about him, but she could certainly move on from him quickly) but she would love and do anything for her own child. She really is a lot like Cersei, just much less evil.

[Merneith]

Oh man, I only just realized from the screencap that the Wyndham Hotel Wizard is in Game of Thrones.

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I'm not sure if this makes me [i]more[/i] or [i]less[/i] eager to stay at a Wyndham Hotel...

[Popples]

50 minutes ago, DarkRaichu said:

 IIRC the Brotherhood traveled on foot, not on the back of horses

At some point the Brotherhood acquired horses. When they saw the Hound at the Inn they where they left Hot Pie, they left on horseback. And they put bags over Arya and Gendry's head so they couldn't tell anyone exactly where their location was. They also got their hands on a wagon, because when they captured the Hound, Anguy (who I hope pops up) deliberately smacked the Hound's bagged head on the top of it.

3 minutes ago, Merneith said:

 

Oh man, I only just realized from the screencap that the Wyndham Hotel Wizard is in Game of Thrones.

...

I'm not sure if this makes me more or less eager to stay at a Wyndham Hotel...

 

I just spend my time wondering at which one he and Brienne will honeymoon.

[RedHawk]

57 minutes ago, MissLucas said:

As for the rest: I'm getting tired of even Northerners (with the exception of Lady Mormont) not being able to see the big picture. But then I remember how back in the pilot when Ned executed the frantic deserter I was thinking: 'Hmm, maybe someone should listen to what this guy has to say - it sounds kinda important.' And now we're in season 6 and the White Walkers are looking more and more like the gnomes in HP after some 'gnome-control' - stumbling around aimlessly beyond the premise they want to infiltrate with no sense of direction how to actually get there. Sheesh, no wonder nobody takes their threat seriously. Same goes for Winter who is sure as hell not coming from the looks of it.

Winter is taking frickin' forever! I guess only the North remembers there even is a Winter that comes, um, sometimes. Eventually. 

[iMonrey]

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Why did half the episode focus on the Hound living on a hippy commune? Am I the only one who not only doesn't care about the hound being alive, but is annoyed by it? We have like 762185 story lines going on, I don't need a hound redemption arc.

You're not alone. I found the episode mostly tedious; it felt like a showcase for Guest Star Ian McShane. And I say that as a fan of the actor; it's just that there's too much going on right now to spend this amount of time on a new character that's killed off in the very same episode he's introduced. He had no major role to play in the overall story, aside from rescuing The Hound. And that bit of business could easily have been explained with a line or two of dialogue if they were determined to work The Hound back into the show.

I still feel like it's been a much stronger season than the past several, overall, but most of this episode felt like filler.

[RedHawk]

At this rate, Winter is going to reach Kings Landing well before Arya does.

Actually, where is Aryan intending to sail on that ship? (I'm in the 99.9% of viewers who assume she's going to live.) 

Edited June 6, 2016 by RedHawk

[Harald Hardrada]

What happened to Brother Ray and those innocent smallfolks? is it the Rh'llor cultists who attacked them? a honest, kind man like him don't deserve that. Somehow I love what is going to happen next... The Hound is back and he is not going to be subtle with the Brotherhood.

[The Mighty Peanut]

Why would Arya and the waif switch faces? Can this even happen with both of them alive? If so, the only thing I can think of is if the waif wanted to lay a false trail for Arya, and Arya somehow got the old woman's face and the waif's face and double crossed her to fake her own death and kill the waif at the same time. But no one knows who Arya is or cares enough to miss her--they don't even care that she's walking around the street literally bleeding to death. The other possibility is Jaquen stole Arya's face (and evidently her entire body with it) to test the Waif's commitment to orders, but if she obeyed his order he would have died and as it is he may not survive the stabbing. Unless the many face God ordered it, which...ugh, I'm thinking too much.

[Arnella]

Not to be indelicate but instead of encouraging Theon to drink to get his groove back, maybe Yara could give him some tips on being with a woman without needing a youknowwhat...

Edited June 6, 2016 by Arnella

[marcee]

I don't wonder if Arya & the waif traded faces... I wonder if A Man went around in Arya's face to see what the waif would do... I mean, Arya did seem pretty bold and brazen approaching the Westeroi guy, all but announcing herself and throwing money around. It seemed so out of character for her to just be out and about, shoulders back, standing tall, all loud and confident - as if she were making herself a target, right? I wouldn't be surprised if she pulled off her face to reveal Jaquen...saving her for the final time. Or testing the waif in some way. (ETA: I guess The Mighty Peanut has come to this possible conclusion as well; always late to the party.)

Edited June 6, 2016 by marcee

[TaraS1]

I kinda wish Ian McShane had played Mance Rayder or some other more substantial player instead of this preacher guy.  His acting was great, as always, but the writing itself didn't make me care about the character.  It made me think back to that wildling who died at Hardhome last season, the one with the little girls (and I think there was speculation she was Tormund's wife, but I don't remember that being confirmed anywhere) - now that is how you write a character the audience can meet, connect with and mourn all in one episode.

[Lady S.]

2 hours ago, MissLucas said:

I would like Arya's wounds to be fake and the blood being props obtained from Lady Crane. But if not - I'll just shrug it off. I once read an article how eunuchs for the Chinese imperial court were produced - let's skip the details and just say Theon still being alive is just as much a miracle as Arya recovering from several stab-wounds to her internal organs.

Yeah, for that matter, I think Jaime should have died from sepsis in s3 too. It looked like there were days between his behanding and his treatment by Qyburn, and Locke really wasn't doing anything to prevent infection, so seems like the Kingslayer should have been DOA by the time they reached Harrenhal. Then this season started with Theon and Sansa surviving a very high drop with no broken bones at all so the show's willingness to use plot armor feels pretty equal to their willingness to kill off main characters tbh.

Updated.

[revbfc]

38 minutes ago, Arnella said:

Not to be indelicate but instead of encouraging Theon to drink to get his groove back, maybe Yara could give him some tips on being with a woman without need

I don't think Theon is there yet.  It was better to get him useful in battle first, let him enjoy women without his junk in the way later.

Edited June 6, 2016 by revbfc