kokapetl August 27, 2017 Share August 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, ghoulina said: I just don't think Danielle is the controlling type. Even when things get crazy with the kids, she mostly seems unruffled. I've never seen any rage seething under the surface. What evidence do you have that Danielle got drunk? And I think that IF Adam stepped up his grooming game a bit, it was probably because of the TV exposure. Nothing more. I feel kind of bad for the dude, that he can't be into his appearance without people assuming he's gay. I don't think Danielle is really the drinking type, (although her family does seem to have a casual attitude to booze) but they went out to a bar, and I can see her easily getting tipsy and ending up asleep in bed early. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3586298
Former Nun August 28, 2017 Share August 28, 2017 On 8/27/2017 at 6:53 AM, RemoteControlFreak said: Toddlers often hit each other and hit adults. In the 60s my friend had her nose broken by her little boy. She was holding him; he was drinking a bottle and decided to whack her with it. We had GLASS bottles in those days. He wasn't even two! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3588747
ccphilly August 28, 2017 Share August 28, 2017 (edited) On 8/23/2017 at 10:51 AM, Dominii said: Riley has tendencies, and that would be enough to scare me to death I don't watch every second of this, but honestly...she seems like a 2 year old that likes the attention she gets when her parents or Uncle Dale, who did it all the time last episode, give her. I don't think she's a candidate for delinquency. Yet. Edited August 28, 2017 by ccphilly derp 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3589024
MoreCoffeePlease August 28, 2017 Share August 28, 2017 Quote I've never seen Riley do anything that makes her stand out I don't have a specific example, but it is something in her eyes and face both when she is doing something and after the fact, that causes concern. It looks like she enjoys hurting her sisters. I watch this show with my 13 year old and I told her, "There is something about the theory of some people just being 'the bad seed'". How much restraint does it take for a spouse not to say "I told you so!" when you told loved one that they need professional help, or at least a medical checkup, and the spouse doesn't listen to you but listens to some pastor he found online!?!?! Adam to Jarrid, "You think I need a professional? Hmm. My wife has been saying that, but I don't like to listen to her or to do what she says." I know there is a lot more to it than that, and that Adam still doesn't seem gung-ho about getting professional help, but still. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3589193
SongbirdHollow August 28, 2017 Share August 28, 2017 1 hour ago, MoreCoffeePlease said: I don't have a specific example, but it is something in her eyes and face both when she is doing something and after the fact, that causes concern. It looks like she enjoys hurting her sisters. It may be editing that makes it seem that way, but my husband walked by the tv (he avoids this show generally) and he said something similar. So people have noticed. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3589517
SongbirdHollow August 28, 2017 Share August 28, 2017 Adam tweeted that Mimi's house had flooded from Harvey. Poor woman can't catch a break. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3589522
Missy Vixen August 28, 2017 Share August 28, 2017 2 hours ago, MoreCoffeePlease said: Adam to Jarrid, "You think I need a professional? Hmm. My wife has been saying that, but I don't like to listen to her or to do what she says." I know there is a lot more to it than that, and that Adam still doesn't seem gung-ho about getting professional help, but still. Hope Danielle has a workable plan on how she intends to support six kids on her own. She's married to a child if the above response is accurate and he is not going to stick around. Also IMHO of course, but Adam's high maintenance 'do doesn't scream "married guy with six kids". He's trolling for another option, IMHO. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3589689
retiredteach August 28, 2017 Share August 28, 2017 I am so happy to find this site as no one I know watches this show and I find myself wondering what other people are thinking. This has been bothering me.....I am disturbed by Riley's behavior. I don't think it is funny or cute, as the adults on the show seem to think. I cringed when Adam called her "bad" . This is no what you want to do when a child needs behavior interventions. I have not observed any efforts to control her aggressive behavior. If some simple strategies are used now, she will probably be fine. I liked the idea someone had that Danielle could keep one quint out of school each day and spend special time with her. Such individual attention may help with all of their behavior. I am withholding judgement on Hazel until a future season, but I am mildly concerned that she seems to be in her own world and does not seem as aware as her sisters. Does anyone know the birth weights/order of birth of the five. I don't want to be negative because I return to the show each week and truly admire Danielle. I do enjoy watching the girls' activities and development. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3589941
camom August 28, 2017 Share August 28, 2017 I'm not sure if this was the birth order, but... Ava Lane: 2 lbs. 4 oz., 14 inches Olivia Marie: 2 lbs. 6 oz., 14.4 inches Hazel Grace: 2 lbs. 0 oz., 13.4 inches Riley Paige: 2 lbs. 4 oz., 14.2 inches Parker Kate: 2 lbs. 4 oz., 13.8 inches So Hazel was the smallest of the quints, but not by a lot. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3589979
retiredteach August 28, 2017 Share August 28, 2017 Thanks! Wow! Surprised that Parker was so small----she seems like the quint that is the most developed and mature. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3590072
sATL August 28, 2017 Share August 28, 2017 (edited) update from busby doing storm. mimi got flooded out. she is safe, though Edited August 28, 2017 by sATL 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3590175
kokapetl August 29, 2017 Share August 29, 2017 10 hours ago, sATL said: update from busby doing storm. mimi got flooded out. she is safe, though I sense a return to the Busby House, and a return to series regular status for Mimi. I have something to confess: I can only identify ginger Hazel Basil ?. Do you think everyone from Blayke on up has severe tinnitus? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3591761
Former Nun August 29, 2017 Share August 29, 2017 19 hours ago, retiredteach said: I cringed when Adam called her "bad" . One thing to consider when discussing this "cringeworthy" word. The babies don't have anyone's definition but their parents', not ours...not some deep psychological meaning. The Busbys could just as well say, "Green," immediately when Riley does something not acceptable. For now, "BAD!" is a quick correction that Riley can understand. They can deal with a more acceptable word (if they want to) and more child-level discussions later. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3592335
Eureka August 30, 2017 Share August 30, 2017 They expect to turn a profit in only a couple weeks? And aren't they sharing the profits with their friends who they invested with? Hopefully they'll make enough soon to fund their 529s or whatever, but those profits need to be spread among three families, no? Wonder if/how much storm damage the studio got. Adam still makes it sound like A (as in, one single) therapist appointment is all it takes....geez. Um...it's a process. It's not a question of if "it doesn't work," to put it in his terms. And I'll say again, he is NOT the sole source of income if they are doing the show and have the spin studio now. I just roll my eyes when he says things like that. But I'm wary about them showing it on tv (of course I know we see a few minutes only but it just feels wrong to me). I wish we had seen the therapist say he needs a medical work up. Maybe she did off camera, but on camera would have been good. I hate the fake setups when they tell the kids about the nicu stuff bc you know at that age, the kids have no clue what they're saying. Maybe they'd talk to Blayke about it, but not the toddlers. I think the cause is great though. Maybe I'm just being crabby tonight, lol. All those pictures at the studio were cute though. And as a communications specialist who does social media as part of my job, I'm impressed that she pointed out that it was skewed because he has more followers. Mimi crossing herself while on the bike cracked me up. And I liked hearing the kids talk more. There's always a point when they just explode with more language and maybe we're starting to see it. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3594302
camom August 30, 2017 Share August 30, 2017 Quote I'm impressed that she pointed out that it was skewed because he has more followers. Maybe he does have more followers, but I thought she was being ridiculous about insisting she won. If she thought it should be based on percentages, she should have said so up front. She just looked like a sore loser. I love hearing the quints talking more. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3594728
Eureka August 30, 2017 Share August 30, 2017 6 hours ago, camom said: Maybe he does have more followers, but I thought she was being ridiculous about insisting she won. If she thought it should be based on percentages, she should have said so up front. She just looked like a sore loser. I love hearing the quints talking more. I agree with you about the sore loser-ness, but what she said wasn't wrong. I wonder if the contest was a setup, bc they do seem kind of naturally competitive to me. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3595017
ghoulina August 30, 2017 Share August 30, 2017 Personally, I liked Danielle's picture better. I noticed Hazel was the real "naughty' one this episode; I heard her name way more than Riley's. Even my girl, Lulu, got called out a few times. I do think Riley may be a bit more dominate, but they all can be mean to each other. Although, I did find it interesting that Ava and Olivia don't get mad when their twin takes their stuff, only the other girls. I hate TV therapy. I always think anyone who would let that be televised isn't very serious about their job. That social worker had some LEGIT resting bitch face going on. I would be scared to talk to her! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3595053
penbrat August 30, 2017 Share August 30, 2017 I enjoyed this episode for the most part. The girls were cute, chattering away. (Not so cute whacking each other upside the head with their toys but that is the terrible twos for you). I also like Danielle’s picture better and I enjoy the competiveness between Danielle and Adam. Makes them seem like a real married couple. I root for them to make it because they have a long hard road ahead of them (as would any couple with multiples). I also appreciated that Danielle was wanting to give back to the hospital with her charity event. She seems like she actually appreciates the support that she got and is not acting all entitled like she is owed something just because she had multiples like some other “famous” parent (I’m looking at you, Kate Gosslin). As far as Adam’s “therapy”, I am not trying to downplay or diminish his depression, which I am sure he is dealing with. I just wish he would deal with it in his private life and off of tv. I just want to see the cute kids and Danielle’s brother-in-laws who I find hysterical. And I am not sure therapy on tv is the best thing for anyone. 1 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3595388
KKINMIA August 30, 2017 Share August 30, 2017 Has anyone here actually suffered from situational depression? Post partum is different in that it is due to hormonal changes as well as life impacting issue of having a child. What Adam seems to be experiencing is due to the situation of having so many babies at once and the overwhelming responsibility and lack of sleep. Sleep deprivation alone can lead to depression. I know because it happened to me 30 years ago when I had my son. He basically slept very little day or night and I literally had no more than 2 hours of sleep at a time and after 6 months I seemed very much like Adam. Nothing seemed enjoyable anymore. I would go to a shopping mall and wonder how people could have a good time shopping when they all knew they were going to die someday. It is truly horrible and I remember those feeling to this day. Therapy alone in most cases is NOT ENOUGH. Luckily Prozac had just been released in my time and after taking it for about 6 weeks the veil lifted and the depression cleared. That along with getting full time help for a while for the night time feedings, so that I could get sleep. I feel we will see that Adam will have to take something to get through this. It is not a long term need, but it is a chemical imbalance that causes depression. I really hope he takes that help. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3595755
NewGranny August 30, 2017 Share August 30, 2017 48 minutes ago, KKINMIA said: Has anyone here actually suffered from situational depression? Post partum is different in that it is due to hormonal changes as well as life impacting issue of having a child. What Adam seems to be experiencing is due to the situation of having so many babies at once and the overwhelming responsibility and lack of sleep. Sleep deprivation alone can lead to depression. I know because it happened to me 30 years ago when I had my son. He basically slept very little day or night and I literally had no more than 2 hours of sleep at a time and after 6 months I seemed very much like Adam. Nothing seemed enjoyable anymore. I would go to a shopping mall and wonder how people could have a good time shopping when they all knew they were going to die someday. It is truly horrible and I remember those feeling to this day. Therapy alone in most cases is NOT ENOUGH. Luckily Prozac had just been released in my time and after taking it for about 6 weeks the veil lifted and the depression cleared. That along with getting full time help for a while for the night time feedings, so that I could get sleep. I feel we will see that Adam will have to take something to get through this. It is not a long term need, but it is a chemical imbalance that causes depression. I really hope he takes that help. I have been suffering from situational depression and anxiety since my husband passed away last October. I felt pretty much the same way that you did until I also got on some medication that really helps me. I am also seeing a grief therapist. There is no shame in seeking help and I hope to not have to be on this long term. I really hope that Adam is seeking the right kind of medical help that he needs. It sucks feeling that way, but there is help for it. FYI, I totally understand the baby not sleeping. My daughter who is now 26 did not sleep a whole night until she was 2. When she had her daughter 3 years ago I kinda hoped that she would get a little payback but NOOOO my granddaughter slept all night after her first 2 weeks and will still ask to take a nap or go to bed. :) 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3595930
freebie August 30, 2017 Share August 30, 2017 I'm definitely uncomfortable with the cameras rolling while Adam pursues therapy. I'm glad he's seeking help, but how helpful can the therapy be if a camera operator, sound guy and who knows who else are in the room? Adam did seem sincere, though, when he was describing his experience. I would have preferred the therapist not get so in his face about depression being a DISEASE. Not sure that approach is going to be helpful with someone who has expressed reluctance to seek treatment. I get that she was trying to help him understand he's not at fault, but ... In unrelated news, there were a few comments about the manufactured drama of the trip to the aquarium. I definitely thought Danielle just wanted them to get the kids out of the house, not undertake a significant expedition. So, the decision to hit up the aquarium was on the aunts/uncles (or, more likely, TLC), not Danielle and Adam. And as far as the strollers go, I work across the street from the National Aquarium here in Baltimore and have been more times than I can count. Strollers are prohibited there because they just aren't compatible with navigating through the exhibits, plus they block other visitors from getting close to the exhibits. So, the aquarium provides child carriers that parents can use to haul their kiddos around. I'm not sure which aquarium Team Busby visited, but it's possible there was a similar prohibition in place. I mean, seriously, how of you "forget" a stroller when headed to a place like an aquarium with five two-year-olds? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3596043
winsomeone August 30, 2017 Share August 30, 2017 I find Adam to be an ugly, ugly little man, and seeing all of the close ups of him contorting his face and eyes into various positions to show how depressed he is, is super annoying to me and a big turn off . Maybe he does have situational depression, but did anyone force these people to go to extraordinary lengths to have more children? I am sure they were advised of the chances of having more than one fetus...it seems like the ones who always want just one more, always have many more the second time around. Does TLC think we want him to now be the main focus instead of the quints? I am about done with this show. 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3596297
bythelake August 30, 2017 Share August 30, 2017 3 hours ago, winsomeone said: I find Adam to be an ugly, ugly little man, and seeing all of the close ups of him contorting his face and eyes into various positions to show how depressed he is, is super annoying to me and a big turn off . Maybe he does have situational depression, but did anyone force these people to go to extraordinary lengths to have more children? I am sure they were advised of the chances of having more than one fetus...it seems like the ones who always want just one more, always have many more the second time around. Does TLC think we want him to now be the main focus instead of the quints? I am about done with this show. Of course no one forced them to have more children, and most likely they were given the option of reducing the number of embryos, and chose not to. Adam couldn't predict that he would become depressed. In the pictures @Kokapetl posted, his face looks so much more haggard now than when the quints were younger. Something is going on with him and I think the grimaces are a sign of awkwardness. Maybe, he's embarrassed having to air his problems on tv, but as we've learned, in order to keep an audience these families do as they're told by the TLC brass. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3597000
winsomeone August 31, 2017 Share August 31, 2017 I don't think any of these people are camera shy. Is Adam really depressed, or has he just bitten off more than he can chew? Does he still supposedly have PPD..did anyone with a medical degree actually diagnose him? Most depressions are treated with medication these days. Where I live, people see psychiatrists, not therapists. Therapists don't diagnose or prescribe drugs do they? Just talk to people, and with depression, does that really help? I have a son with depression, and he has a psychiatrist and is on medication for it. I also have a grand daughter with anxiety attacks..she also has a psychiatrist and is medicated for it. Maybe in that area they just see a therapist...maybe it is a church related one? Just never heard of anyone talking away depression is all, and I think maybe it is just for the cameras. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3598769
Eureka August 31, 2017 Share August 31, 2017 18 minutes ago, winsomeone said: I don't think any of these people are camera shy. Is Adam really depressed, or has he just bitten off more than he can chew? Does he still supposedly have PPD..did anyone with a medical degree actually diagnose him? Most depressions are treated with medication these days. Where I live, people see psychiatrists, not therapists. Therapists don't diagnose or prescribe drugs do they? Just talk to people, and with depression, does that really help? I have a son with depression, and he has a psychiatrist and is on medication for it. I also have a grand daughter with anxiety attacks..she also has a psychiatrist and is medicated for it. Maybe in that area they just see a therapist...maybe it is a church related one? Just never heard of anyone talking away depression is all, and I think maybe it is just for the cameras. Maybe he just needs someone to suggest strategies to not feeling quite as overwhelmed, to invalidate his feeling "weak" and "less manly" by asking for help. It could be a chemical thing, I don't know. But sometimes just having someone removed to talk to can help you see things in a different light and it helps you cope. Not everyone who says they're depressed has true depression, maybe they are just using the term anyway. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3598829
winsomeone August 31, 2017 Share August 31, 2017 That is true. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3599340
NewGranny August 31, 2017 Share August 31, 2017 You can go to a psychiatrist for medication or your GP can also prescribe it. Some people feel more comfortable speaking with a therapist than an actual psychiatrist. So you can get your meds from a psychiatrist but go to a therapist for the actual counseling. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3599502
cinsbythesea August 31, 2017 Share August 31, 2017 I like both Danielle and Adam. Husband thinks Adam is a bit of a wuss but I think he's just overwhelmed with responsibility. All in all I think he's handling things pretty well - that's a lot of little babies at the same time. I worried about supporting two kids - I can't imagine supporting six! Danielle seems to genuinely enjoy having children and doesn't constantly complain about all that she has to do because of said children (I'm thinking of YOU Kate Gosselin). I also find I don't scream at the television when watching the Busby's like I do whenever Kate and her "eight" are on... 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3599615
fountain August 31, 2017 Share August 31, 2017 (edited) An older episode was on tv today (with babies just home) and Adam does look worse now. His eyes are way more buggy now so maybe he does have a physical health issue as well. It seems the depression wasn't much of the focus this week and that was nice. I get the feeling Adam thought life would be more happy and exciting and it is boring and routine. He is probably generally tired and worn down too. ETA the therapeutic treatment for many mental illnesses is cognitive behavioural therapy and retraining your thought processes not just talking about your life. Adam is functional as he is going to work, caring for his family, going to the gym, etc so CBT may be a good choice to start before medication. Edited August 31, 2017 by fountain 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3599920
Mom2twoNonna2-3 August 31, 2017 Share August 31, 2017 Parker Kate was adorable at brunch. Licking her lips while checking out Blayke's pancakes. I'm right there with you, Parker. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3600041
Former Nun September 1, 2017 Share September 1, 2017 6 hours ago, NewGranny said: You can go to a psychiatrist for medication or your GP can also prescribe it. Some people feel more comfortable speaking with a therapist than an actual psychiatrist. So you can get your meds from a psychiatrist but go to a therapist for the actual counseling. Has medicine changed so much that one can't see a psychiatrist for talk therapy AND meds? In the old days, one would see a psychiatrist regularly...and either get prescription(s) immediately or as therapy progressed (or didn't). I'd prefer that Adam see one "therapist" who could do it all. That session was very uncomfortable for me; I hope they can keep his therapy more private. On 8/30/2017 at 10:35 AM, NewGranny said: I really hope that Adam is seeking the right kind of medical help that he needs. A agree so much! It's going to be tricky because (apparently) TLC wants this to be part of the storyline and not many professionals would be willing to have their sessions televised. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3600659
NewGranny September 1, 2017 Share September 1, 2017 No, Former Nun, I don't think that it has changed that much but I know that for myself I am more comfortable with the setting in my therapist office than the psychiatrist. It just seems less informal and I feel a real connection with her. But that is just me. My therapist cannot prescribe meds because she is not a medical doctor. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3601308
tabloidlover September 1, 2017 Share September 1, 2017 My son is bi-polar and sees both a psychiatrist and a therapist. The psychiatrist ONLY prescribes meds and has him see therapist for the rest. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3601860
PugMum September 1, 2017 Share September 1, 2017 Ditto on the psychiatrist vs. therapist. That's pretty much the standard for medication and talk therapy. From personal experience, I'd say it's quite helpful to always do the talking part and be open-minded to the use of medication. Therapists will often work with an internist of psychiatrist when considering meds. When I look at Adam and his bulging eyes I keep thinking maybe he's got some thyroid issues going on which would complicate any other issues like depression and fatigue. He seems to be a pretty "traditional" guy in a very "manly man" part of the country so I get his reluctance to get help. I don't think he's that different from most guys. I would probably never sleep a wink if I had multiples. The financial burden alone would cause me to have panic attacks on a daily basis. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3602074
winsomeone September 1, 2017 Share September 1, 2017 The quints didn't happen without a lot of medical intervention. Surely they must offer some sort of counseling to the couples to see if they are able to cope with HOMs before hand? My grand daughter has seen her psychiatrist since she was 5, and is now 14, for her anxiety disorder. She prescribes medication and also talks with the child..we want someone with a medical degree for her...therapists often have scanty education...especially church based ones. Someone with true depression has a chemical disorder, and talking will not help that at all. You need medication for it. Someone who is sad about a death in the family, or more bills than they can cope with is not suffering from depression. They might still need help, but really, can they talk away the bills? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3602138
riverblue22 September 1, 2017 Share September 1, 2017 I'm hoping that Adam is working with a real therapist off camera and the one he saw on television was acquired by TLC just to be used on the show. I can't imagine that he would really want to pour his heart out on television and I don't have high opinions of a therapist would agree to appear on reality TV. After all the Brown family had a whole fake courtroom for their "adoption" baloney story. I do hope Adam gets a medical workup. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3602849
bythelake September 2, 2017 Share September 2, 2017 13 hours ago, riverblue22 said: I'm hoping that Adam is working with a real therapist off camera and the one he saw on television was acquired by TLC just to be used on the show. I can't imagine that he would really want to pour his heart out on television and I don't have high opinions of a therapist would agree to appear on reality TV. After all the Brown family had a whole fake courtroom for their "adoption" baloney story. I do hope Adam gets a medical workup. It seems that all the TLC shows are heavily scripted. It's not easy to know what's real or made-up. During the day yesterday, TLC ran 3 early episodes back to back. Adam physically looked so much better in those episodes. His face is fuller and his demeanor is calmer. I don't doubt that he is having some problems, but that TLC has told him to ramp up the drama. His main issue seems to be financial, but in the one episode concerning buying the new house, he stated (after some number crunching ) that he would be able to handle it, and that was not even taking the TLC paycheck into consideration. I hope he's able to resolve his problems, but agree that airing them on tv won't help. Other TLC families have sold their souls for the almighty dollar, I hope they don't fall into that trap. I like them. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3603882
bethster2000 September 3, 2017 Share September 3, 2017 On 8/30/2017 at 0:15 PM, winsomeone said: I find Adam to be an ugly, ugly little man, and seeing all of the close ups of him contorting his face and eyes into various positions to show how depressed he is, is super annoying to me and a big turn off . Maybe he does have situational depression, but did anyone force these people to go to extraordinary lengths to have more children? I am sure they were advised of the chances of having more than one fetus...it seems like the ones who always want just one more, always have many more the second time around. Does TLC think we want him to now be the main focus instead of the quints? I am about done with this show. Not to mention, HE'S GAY. Obviously so. I mean, come on. And in addition to that, he is so over the wife and the babies, it's actually uncomfortable to watch. I'd feel bad for him, but bed, made, lie. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3605714
brilliantbreakfast September 3, 2017 Share September 3, 2017 On 8/30/2017 at 0:39 PM, KKINMIA said: Has anyone here actually suffered from situational depression? Post partum is different in that it is due to hormonal changes as well as life impacting issue of having a child. What Adam seems to be experiencing is due to the situation of having so many babies at once and the overwhelming responsibility and lack of sleep. Sleep deprivation alone can lead to depression. I know because it happened to me 30 years ago when I had my son. He basically slept very little day or night and I literally had no more than 2 hours of sleep at a time and after 6 months I seemed very much like Adam. Nothing seemed enjoyable anymore. I would go to a shopping mall and wonder how people could have a good time shopping when they all knew they were going to die someday. It is truly horrible and I remember those feeling to this day. Therapy alone in most cases is NOT ENOUGH. Luckily Prozac had just been released in my time and after taking it for about 6 weeks the veil lifted and the depression cleared. That along with getting full time help for a while for the night time feedings, so that I could get sleep. Of course he's depressed. He's what, 30? And he has give screaming babies and another daughter, and NO chance of ever having the son that any good Christian male </snark> would want. He's looking at possibly college for 6 kids and weddings and having to buy more house than he wanted to, and not being able to have "fun" (which seems to be a big part of what he's mourning). To me, Adam seems to have a lot of rage-turned-inward. It's just justifiable rage unless he didn't want 5 more kids and she chose to "select", or whatever happened. I'd feel overwhelmed and depressed too with five screaming babies, and he doesn't seem like either the sharpest, nor the most empathetic tool in the shed. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3606355
RemoteControlFreak September 4, 2017 Share September 4, 2017 (edited) On 8/31/2017 at 6:54 PM, fountain said: ETA the therapeutic treatment for many mental illnesses is cognitive behavioural therapy and retraining your thought processes not just talking about your life. Adam is functional as he is going to work, caring for his family, going to the gym, etc so CBT may be a good choice to start before medication. This is correct. There are an increasing number of people who now get treated for depression by simply getting an Rx from a psychiatrist but this is more a function of the fact that it's a much cheaper alternative and that we live in a society where everyone wants to label every slight variation in mood or behavior and then just treat it with a pill and use it an ex. Also, to Danielle and Adam and all other parents of toddlers: Please stop talking to your children in baby talk. They understand regular adult speech patterns just fine. Your job as parents is to act and sound like responsible adults, not to mimic your two-year-old's language style. Edited September 4, 2017 by RemoteControlFreak 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3608386
kokapetl September 5, 2017 Share September 5, 2017 Psychiatrists can do therapy, but it's not cheap. Not remotely cheap. 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3612285
ChiCricket September 6, 2017 Share September 6, 2017 The therapist looked and sounded like she was depressed herself. Either way, her voice just irritated the heck out of me and I had to mute the TV. It was like chalk on a blackboard to me. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3612806
salvame September 6, 2017 Share September 6, 2017 On 8/31/2017 at 4:15 PM, NewGranny said: You can go to a psychiatrist for medication or your GP can also prescribe it. Some people feel more comfortable speaking with a therapist than an actual psychiatrist. So you can get your meds from a psychiatrist but go to a therapist for the actual counseling. Psychiatrists are more apt to throw medicine at the issues, as they approach from a medical standpoint, where therapists or counselors are traditionally better at talking things out and helping people work through issues, hence the need for both. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3612876
Love2dance September 6, 2017 Share September 6, 2017 I wonder why Danielle wears the same burgundy top in every talking head (at least the last few episodes). Do they tape many episodes' discussions at a time after several shows are taped? I really like the top, which is why I noticed. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3613085
Adeejay September 6, 2017 Share September 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Love2dance said: I wonder why Danielle wears the same burgundy top in every talking head (at least the last few episodes). Thank you for bring this up, because I didn't want to be the one. I am glad that next week is the finale, because if I have to look at Danielle in that burgundy top one more week, I am liable to throw something at my television. Many, many years later, some of us are still carrying the weight from our first pregnancy, so, I have to admit to being a little jealous seeing Danielle and her sisters in those teeny tiny bikinis. Good for them. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3613132
Maya September 6, 2017 Share September 6, 2017 I died when Mimi said the waiter looked like Hazel! Too funny. I can get through this show is about 20 minutes when I fast-forward through the commercials and Adam. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3613243
melissa820 September 6, 2017 Share September 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Adeejay said: I have to admit to being a little jealous seeing Danielle and her sisters in those teeny tiny bikinis. Good for them. The first thing I wondered when I saw her in that bathing suit is whether or not she has had a tummy tuck. I mean I can understand her losing the weight quickly, her and Adam both seem really into fitness. A year after having my baby I've lost the weight but my belly looks like a deflated balloon... and there was only one baby in there. You'd expect her tummy to look more like Kate's did in the early early days of Jon & Kate plus 8 before she had her tummy tuck. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3613354
Eureka September 6, 2017 Share September 6, 2017 7 hours ago, Love2dance said: I wonder why Danielle wears the same burgundy top in every talking head (at least the last few episodes). Do they tape many episodes' discussions at a time after several shows are taped? I really like the top, which is why I noticed. I think they comment on several episodes (entire season?) at once. They are both wearing the same shirts in the talking heads all season. 6 hours ago, melissa820 said: The first thing I wondered when I saw her in that bathing suit is whether or not she has had a tummy tuck. I mean I can understand her losing the weight quickly, her and Adam both seem really into fitness. A year after having my baby I've lost the weight but my belly looks like a deflated balloon... and there was only one baby in there. You'd expect her tummy to look more like Kate's did in the early early days of Jon & Kate plus 8 before she had her tummy tuck. I wondered that and also....boy, all the manscaping must take him hours. Not a single body hair on that man, he looked like a Ken doll. 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3613610
penbrat September 6, 2017 Share September 6, 2017 I love Uncle Dale. 1 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3613688
winsomeone September 6, 2017 Share September 6, 2017 Pacifiers at age 2? Forget about a college fund, they will need a braces fund way before then. They seemed to do less hitting this time, and i was glad to see that. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/43294-outdaughtered-general-discussion/page/12/#findComment-3613826
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