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S06.E04: Book of the Stranger


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Episode Synopsis:

Tyrion strikes a deal. Jorah and Daario undertake a difficult task. Jaime and Cersei try to improve their situation.

Reminder: This is for discussion of the TV show only, no book talk allowed - including saying "but it's different in the books". Any spoiler from outside the books (i.e. next weeks preview) should be in spoiler tags.

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This season is good, but suffering from too many stories going on, some that are not as important as others. The High Sparrow story set in motion by Cersei has lasted way too long. I am tired of his monologues and I like Jonathan Price. We could have skipped Theon’s return home also.

Thank goodness, Jon didn’t leave and miss Sansa. I would have freaked the hell out. I cannot believe that Sansa had to convince Jon to fight with her for Winterfell and to save Rickon. Jon was planning to leave his sword? What the hell was he thinking? I liked Davos confronting Melisandre and Brienne telling him that she executed Stannis.

Poor Osha, she came close to getting Ramsey. Too bad Theon betrayed them all.

What does Littlefinger do, but travel around making trouble? I look forward to Sansa stabbing him through the heart.

I love Tyrion playing politics and teaching Missandei and Grey Worm how to play the game. I think that he has a plan to destroy the slave owners. I want the dragons the take out these slave owners.

Daenerys’ story is taking too long, but I enjoyed her burning the Khals alive. This ends all debate about if she is immune to fire. She clearly is. Poor Emilia Clarke having to stand there with no clothes on so these men can ogle her.

Daario enjoyed taunting Jorah. It was sad when Daario saw the disease.  Daario smashing the guy with the rock was horrible. I am just glad that they did not show it.

I cannot stand how Cersei is playing victim when she set the High Sparrow on the city and Margaery. There is nothing worse than a fool with delusions of grandeur. It is sickening Cersei what had done to Loras and Margaery. Poor Loras whose only sin is being gay.

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Just now, SimoneS said:

Poor Emilia Clarke having to stand there with no clothes on so these men can ogle her.

I don't know, they all kinda looked like they were averting their eyes. Unless you were talking about us, then guilty as charged.

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All of that "old" talk is going to make Jorah buy a convertible and get hair plugs.

It's amazing how great this season has been. It may seem like a weird analogy to make, but Season 5:  .Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. before Winter Soldier came out: Season 6: Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.after Winter Soldier came out

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1 minute ago, AimingforYoko said:

I don't know, they all kinda looked like they were averting their eyes. Unless you were talking about us, then guilty as charged.

I was talking about men in the audience although I should have included the women who enjoy watching women's breasts also. Ha.

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Finally the Mother of Dragons does something pretty badass. Guess her new title will be Grand Khaleesi? Now that she rules the Dothraki, we shouldn't see them anymore unless they back Dany up.

Poor Osha. 

This King's Landing kerfluffle is taking too long to execute. Hopefully the Queen of Thorns has a plan up her sleeve to get Margaery and Loras out of jail.

Littlefinger!  I actually missed him. I wonder how he is going to slither into Sansa's plan to take back Winterfell.

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Now this was a good episode. forward motion on multiple fronts. Right off the bat we have a Stark reunion. FINALLY, after so many near misses. Someone's going after the High Sparrow. The Margaery/Loras plot inches forward, but at least it inches. Armies are moving on Ramsay. And, of course, Dany outwits the Khals. I've noticed how often they end the show with a big Dany scene. That was a good one.

on the minus side, it stinks to bring Osha back just for Ramsay to kill her, but it would've been too much for her to have taken him out so quickly. {Much as I would like to see him go.}

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So Dany can be interesting without dragons. Walked out that inferno like a fucking boss! Seeing all those khals made me miss Drogo even more than I realized.

Stark reunion!! SQUEE!

I thought those girls Tyrion gave the masters were going to slit their throats. One of them resembled the girl Varys put on the ship last week.

Robin being taller than Littlefinger made that hug totally hilarious. And he was so disappointed not to make Lord Royce fly.

I think Margery wanted to slap Loras. He was right about always being weak, that's how they got into that mess in the first place.

R.I.P. Osha. I knew she was dead as soon as she entered the room. Nice call on the seeing worse since Ramsey doesn't eat them afterwards. Fucking Thenns.

Brienne was absolute eye-candy for Tormund! He couldn't get over her as soon as she rode through the gates. They might be my new ship. Tormund is the absolute best and should sit on the Iron Throne.

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Jon and Sansa's reunion is so sweet and touching. I hope that she gets to stab Littlefinger in the heart or maybe that honor goes to Varys.

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A Stark reunion! I had believed I would never see it. Me during that scene when they saw each other was "OMG, OMG, OMG" lol. 

Dany was bad ass at the end.

This episode was so good.

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I was a bit bummed when Brienne interrupted Mel and Davos right as Davos was asking about how Shireen died. Sure, she raised Jon from the dead, but I don't know that that's going to get Mel a pass from Davos for her role in what happened to Shireen. 

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I was so happy to see that Sansa arrived before Jon left, it was a lovely reunion.  I loved that Sansa apologized for her behavior in the past and was the one who was resolute to fight for Winterfell even before they knew about Rikon.

Poor Osha, but considering what Ramsay could have done for her I'm glad it was quick for her. 

Oh Littlefinger you scheming douche, I too will cheer when you die, and I hope it's Sansa who kills you. 

Well at least Cersei, Oleanna and company know it will probably all go horribly wrong and so do we.  Tommen seemed a bit more mature, or at least spoke with a certain "gravity", so yay? 

 I guess Emilia Clarke dropped the no nudity clause?  Or it was a body double.  In any case go Dany! I wasn't sure how she would escape their clutches and was glad she thought of her own way out instead of being rescued.  

A good setup episode I thought, for the many battles ahead. 

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Poor Osha.  And seriously, I don't care if you are using a paring knife, it does NOT take that long to peel a fucking apple.

Dany's story still does not interest me except that I am amused with The Adventures of Daario and Jorah.  And did she sprinkle accelerant on the stairs when she walked through the tent or what?

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Brienne and Tormund - I see a love connection.

Sad to see Brienne hold Davos in contempt.  But I understand.

And Dany kicked ass without her dragons or her army.  Well done.

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Great episode! Little Lord Robyn isn't so little anymore. But I'm so sick of Ramsey always getting his way. Seriously how long has he been terrorizing everyone without a scratch. Dany rules.

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7 minutes ago, Stardancer Supreme said:

Poor Osha. 

I know! She almost had that knife.

7 minutes ago, Stardancer Supreme said:

Littlefinger!  I actually missed him. I wonder how he is going to slither into Sansa's plan to take back Winterfell.

Ickily enough, I first read that as Littlefinger slithering into Sansa's pants...

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I've been watching  too much Cinema Sins. First thing that popped into my head when they showed the apple was "The director said 'Peel this apple. It'll make you look like even more of an asshole'."

Keep in mind, that was before they showed it was Ramsey.

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Well I really liked that reunion between Jon and Sansa.   The sense of relief some of these characters feel can be palatable on occasion.   Clearly Sansa is tired of running and wants to stand her ground against any and all enemies at Winterfell.   And seems she wants to set Jon up as the head of that cause.   Smart in the sense that many of the still standing armies and Houses likely wouldn't trust a woman to lead.   We'll have to see where this goes.  I do think it's cool that Sansa continues to mingle with different cast of characters.   When I remember this girl from Season 1, I never would have dreamed she'd be sitting in Castle Black across from Jon Snow, Dolores Edd and Torment the Wildling.   

Ramsay is certainly smarter than Theon was.  Theon thought with one head and it wasn't the big one.  Ramsay is a different creature entirely.   And the man does write a chilling letter.   IR continues to be awesome in his role.

LF is a sly one.   He's making the Bolton's the enemy everywhere.  With The Iron Throne and with the Vale.   And it was good to  be reminded that Lord Robin is a mercurial monster.   Lord Royce has been keeping him safe but after some prompting from LF he was ready to toss him through the moon door.   It's clear LF spent time cultivating that loyalty and Lord Royce (probably put off by Lord Robins martial inadequacy) didn't.  LF more or less having control, by proxy, of one of the largest remaining armies, makes him a very powerful man.

Lady Olenna reading Cersei to her face. WHOA.  "My dear, you have been stripped of your Power and your dignity, publicly shamed.  There's nothing left to work with." LMAO.  And it was good to be reminded that House Tyrell is not benevolent.   Olenna isn't as blood thirsty as Cersei, but mass death doesn't bother her as long as it isn't someone she cares about.  I'd imagine it's that kind of attitude by the high born that allowed the Faith Militant to get so many followers.   House Tyrell did starve the capital of supplies in support of Renly.   They are very "Let them eat cake." 

And I have a lot of thoughts about Margaery Tyrell but credit where it's due, inwardly she is a STRONG individual.   She's been in those dungeons for quite some time, denied daylight and her accustomed comforts, and they still haven't broken her.   When she told Loras he was the future of their house, I wanted to let her know that, "Honey, that's you."   If she makes it out, I wonder what will be next for her.

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7 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Dany's story still does not interest me except that I am amused with The Adventures of Daario and Jorah.  And did she sprinkle accelerant on the stairs when she walked through the tent or what?

Pretty sure there was oil in the braziers.

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Um. There was like progress in every place. Like a lot. Weird.

It totally didn't click with me initially at all until Brienne spelled out her six degrees of Westeros why things would be weird between her and Davos/Melisandre. 

So High Sparrow fed Tommen misinformation knowing he'd blab to mommy and somehow Grandma Tyrell and Kevan aren't questioning the source of this information that the twin dummies have brought up? Ho boy. I can't wait for chaos to erupt from both sides' traps. I didn't realize until now that Kevan was Lancel's dad. I was like "OHHHHH!" He's way more invested than I realized in the whackadoo cult.

I thought it was kind of weird that we didn't see nor Sansa's not whoa or reacting at all to the rising from the dead Jon Snow stuff.

I don't see Tyrion's plan yet. It can't be as simple as what he says with Vaerys just going along for the ride. The Grey Worm and Missandei voiced concerns suddenly made their involvement in everything more interesting. And whatever Tyrion's plan is, he's not ready to share with these two yet either. I thought he was collecting the Masters in one room was a trap to offer to those ex-slaves but I guess not. 

Man, Theon moved like lightning to get to the Iron Islands! Seriously, he's like the Flash of Westeros. Everyone else ages two feet during their trips. Okay, Littlefinger is the Flash. Theon's pretty quick too!

FINALLY. Daenerys being all preachy know-it-all worked, wasn't boring and was pretty oh my goodness, oh my dayum. I don't get how everything caught on fire so fast. I guess other young Khaleesi poured gasoline everywhere and none of the Khals could smell it? Whatever. I guess this was cooler to see than Ser Friendzone spreading the plague.

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The weak link of the show is King's Landing. It gets too much airtime when the story has absolutely no relation to Jon and Daenerys’ stories which are the pivotal to the whole show. We should be further along with Bran's visions.

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I really need a pair of the pants Missandei was wearing.

According to a headline I saw a few minutes ago, Emilia said "that ain't no body double."

Dolorous Edd knows what's going through Tormund's mind and it looks like he doesn't know at ALL what to make of it.

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14 minutes ago, SimoneS said:

Tormund eyeing Brienne over the meal was hysterical. I hope that he doesn't try anything with her. I don't want her to reject him harshly.

That was hilarious, my interpretation went:

Tormund: "Look at me eating all man-like and savage, grr baby"
Brienne: "Err...ok then....wut"

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32 minutes ago, AimingforYoko said:

OK, Dany wins back the mic drop contest.

This stupid show, they got me again with the Stark reunion.

In other news, Ramsey's quite the little poet.

This was the first time I have actually cried in all the seasons, but Jon and Sansa's reunion was so satisfying.  

And Dany - woohoo, this is what keeps me a fan.  

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5 minutes ago, Potanical Pardon said:

Man, Theon moved like lightning to get to the Iron Islands! Seriously, he's like the Flash of Westeros. Everyone else ages two feet during their trips. Okay, Littlefinger is the Flash. Theon's pretty quick too!

FINALLY. Daenerys being all preachy know-it-all worked, wasn't boring and was pretty oh my goodness, oh my dayum. I don't get how everything caught on fire so fast. I guess other young Khaleesi poured gasoline everywhere and none of the Khals could smell it? Whatever. I guess this was cooler to see than Ser Friendzone spreading the plague.

I cackled at the Ser Friendzone remark.  I don't think there was any accelerant used. Those bins had to have oil in them in order to burn.  Plus those huts are basically wood and fabric. Goes up quick when fire and oil hits it!

And color me surprised that Theon got home so quickly (to us). Last week he's in the wilderness and poof! Back in a boat to the Iron Islands.

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3 minutes ago, mojoween said:

I really need a pair of the pants Missandei was wearing.

Hell, I wish I had her figure to fit in them. She looked amazing.

Oh yeah, it's been four episodes, where the hell is Bronn?

I kind of want a Yara/Brienne spin-off where the just kick ass up and down the seven kingdoms. You know Tormund comes along for comic relief in my vision. And Pod, can't forget Pod.

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29 minutes ago, SimoneS said:

Jon and Sansa's reunion is so sweet and touching. I hope that she gets to stab Littlefinger in the heart or maybe that honor goes to Varys.

Fly him through the Moon Door, clutching little Ramsay's hand as he goes. 

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Because I was so sure this show would noy allow any Starks to be happy, ever, I was irrationally giddy at the Sansa/Jon reunion. And "yay" to Sansa for bringing Jon around on taking back Winterfell. I think she is finally sick and tired of being other people's puppets.

RIP, Osha ... like others said, at least it was a quick, torture-free death.

I almost forgot how much I hate Little Finger ... he's quite the smarmy bastard, ain't he?

Dany channeling her inner Mad King was some kind of wonderful.

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Oh, I also loved Daario's shocked reaction to Daenerys on fire before slowly kneeling. It was the first time I think that he really understood that she is a Targaryen and the Mother of Dragons. Her immunity to fire shocked the hell out of him. I cannot wait for Tyrion to see her on fire. His reaction will be even more entertaining.

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The Stark reunion might be the most shocking thing this show has ever done! Their scenes were really well done - i can't remember them ever speaking to each other but the rapport felt real.  I loved Sansa arguing for action - she's writing her own story now rather than living in a fairy tale.

i fully expected Drogon to come tearing out of the sky during the meeting with the Khals - Dany making and executing a plan, knowing from past experience how the Dothraki would react, was muuuuuch better.  V. Curious how she will react to Tyrion's work on her behalf.

21 minutes ago, Lillith said:

Poor Osha, but considering what Ramsay could have done for her I'm glad it was quick for her. 

It's a sign of how brutal the Ramsay scenes are, that my reaction was "oh, thank god" when Osha died so quickly and unflayed.  

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5 minutes ago, SimoneS said:

Oh, I also loved Daario's shocked reaction to Daenerys on fire before slowly kneeling. It was the first time I think that he really understood that she is a Targaryen and the Mother of Dragons. Her immunity to fire shocked the hell out of him. I cannot wait for Tyrion to see her on fire. His reaction will be even more entertaining.

It was totally, "Holy Shit, those weren't just stories!"

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I thought I heard a dragon roar when the fire rose up against that Khal who was running. I wonder if this means that Daenerys can control fire and is not just immune to it.

As horrible as Osha's death was, it was better than Walda and her baby. 

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An episode of feminine strength.  I am so impressed by Sansa's growth, she has always been one of the weakest women in the series...IMO.  But her strength in this episode was awesome.  She suffered so much at the hands of Ramsay, that I would have expected her to just cower when Jon was reading that letter, but instead she took it and read the rest and still resolved to fight...whether she had help or not.  You go girl!  I think THAT is the girl the North would be loyal to.

I'm not a fan of the seven year plan, so I'm hoping Tyrion has something up his sleeve....perhaps he IS going to train the dragons so they can take out specific targets.  It would be great if they could fly north and roast Ramsay alive.

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10 minutes ago, Calamity Jane said:

Fly him through the Moon Door, clutching little Ramsay's hand as he goes. 

Oi. I read this as "clutching little Ramsay's head as he goes." 

 

All mod and no play makes Mya a dull perv. 

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If Brienne draws her sword on Tormund - it will only peak his interest more.

I am glad too, if Osha was going to die, she was killed quickly.  No more torture porn.

Forget dogs, maybe Ramsey can meet up with some Thenns.  Those guys are scary MFs.

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I think that Tyrion's seven year plan is a stall. Just something to keep the slaveowners under control until he or Daenerys comes up with a better plan or maybe he has a been plan already. He isn't a fool. He has to know that they will never abide by the agreement. 

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Dany for Queen. She's had my vote since the get-go. I'd like to see her loan out Drogon to Sansa so she can personally see the roasting of Ramsay. Tyron could arrange that. And speaking of Sansa, I loved her "man-up" attitude with Mr Mopey Jon Snow. 

No more deaths of Dire Wolves! I'm seriously getting pissed off. 

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8 minutes ago, RCharter said:

An episode of feminine strength.  I am so impressed by Sansa's growth, she has always been one of the weakest women in the series...IMO.  But her strength in this episode was awesome.  She suffered so much at the hands of Ramsay, that I would have expected her to just cower when Jon was reading that letter, but instead she took it and read the rest and still resolved to fight...whether she had help or not.  You go girl!  I think THAT is the girl the North would be loyal to.

It was good to see how far Sansa has come. Having her persuade a wavering Jon to fight for their home and brother was very well done. About time we see Sansa join the ranks of strong women on the show.

I also liked how Margaery was strong and determined not to break even as Loras was falling apart.

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5 minutes ago, Gudzilla said:

Oh goody, just what we wanted, Ramsay wins again !  Yay !

 

Ramsay is Superman, Batman, and Sherlock all in one !

That's why Dany needs to get her ass over to Westeros, lend Sansa a dragon to roast the bastard. 

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