S07.E08: Didn't Mean It

[ReadMeLattice]

17 minutes ago, Soobs said:

Kail really knows how to work poor, sensitive Isaac into a lather over Javi being gone. How about telling the kid to go play when you're discussing Isis. I don't think it occurred to Isaac to be scared until Kail kept asking him if he was.

One minute Janelle is saying she'd never use her kid against Nathan and then the next scene she's saying that Nathan needs to get his lady to drop the charges or she's going to make real trouble for him with custody. I love how it's Nathan's girlfriend's fault that Janelle clocked her. The jury at her trial is going to love that.

She's already been acquitted. Don't know why, but there was something about Nathan lying to the police in the course of the questioning. 

I fully believe she did it, but I also believe Nathan probably saw it as an opportunity and lied about witnessing it or the exact details of what happened. He's fought or threatened the local police at least twice that we know of, I would assume they're not overly fond of him. And they must know Jenelle's address by heart! 

Edited May 4, 2016 by Lm2162

[starfire]

19 minutes ago, Soobs said:

One minute Janelle is saying she'd never use her kid against Nathan and then the next scene she's saying that Nathan needs to get his lady to drop the charges or she's going to make real trouble for him with custody. I love how it's Nathan's girlfriend's fault that Janelle clocked her. The jury at her trial is going to love that.

Jenelle saying she wouldn't use Kaiser was pure BS. She was using him as a bribe before she said that and is still using him as a bribe now. She is pathetic.

Also, I think Jenelle already went to trial and was found not guilty (believe it or not).

[Tatum]

21 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

To be fair, I think Jeremy is a hard working guy but probably an awful husband. He's emotionally distant, a cheater, rather ignorant, and rarely around. I get that it was for work, but I get the feeling he took more jobs than he needed to to get away from her, and anyone would find the situation she described (six days a week of work, one night where he drank and had sex with her and they barely spoke) terribly stressful and painful. He admitted he didn't like contacting them when he was away because he didn't like being reminded of what he was missing. That would greatly strain even the best of marriages, and their marriage was always crap meant mostly for lust and getting back at Corey (from both sides). He complained about her behavior but refused counseling. 

Leah is also a cheater, and emotionally needy, selfish, and an obsessive, materialistic spender. Very impulsive, very foolish, uneducated, etc. I also believe she has mental health problems, and quite possibly an addiction. So the combination of both of them, already with a baby and two other kids, after a couple months of break up to make up dating? Shitstorm. That whole thing was always a mess. 

I think so too. Yes, Leah is an absolutely draining partner, but Jeremy would have known that had he waited more than 20 seconds to get to know her before locking her down, and then could have made better choices and not brought a child into that mess (also his idea). He might have been a better husband to someone who was a better wife, but he is the one who pushed to get married and there were plenty of warning signs right off the bat as to what a shitshow this union would be.

[starfire]

10 minutes ago, Mkay said:

She quit long before the kids came into the picture. She worked out of Point Plesant which is an hour and half away. I remember looking way back around the time they got married to see if she was still employed there. I couldn't find her but did find when she used to work there. (My husband used to reserve to keep his liscense so I was interested and nosey.) I'm thinking she quit once they got married.  That's one heck of a drive. 

I think you are correct. If I am remembering correctly, Miranda had recently become a police officer (within a month or two?) when she met Corey and she quit a year or less later when they got engaged or married.

This article says Miranda started working as a cop on June 1, 2012. She married Corey in June, 2013.

http://starcasm.net/archives/160311

[Mkay]

4 minutes ago, starfire said:

I think you are correct. If I am remembering correctly, Miranda had recently become a police officer (within a month or two?) when she met Corey and she quit a year or less later when they got engaged or married.

This article says Miranda started working as a cop on June 1, 2012. She married Corey in June, 2013.

http://starcasm.net/archives/160311

Your right. The more I looked it said she was the newest employee of the mason county sheriffs dept and started June 1st. Corey tweeted abt and an article was written that she moved in with Corey Sept 2012.  They got married June 2013. She wasn't a employee very long. Maybe a few months like you said. 

[kira28]

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Leah claims it was about child support. She is so stupid.  She is just like Adumb in the brain department. Even if Cory paid very little in child support to Leah due to the schedule change, his expenses will increase. The need for more groceries, clothes, personal hygiene care, the day-to-day expenses, school needs, expenses connected with taking the girls to their appointments, activity expenses, co-pays, etc. That is why  CS payments are adjusted according to the amount of time a child(ren) are in their parent's care.

agree and that is what kills me about Leah and Adam (and the rest of the bad parents out there) They think 50/50 custody means the other parent "wins" so they don't have to pay child support. My kids' father has this mindset. He pays child support and rarely sees his children. He works full time and so do I. Our kids are in daycare 50 hours per week which costs over $900 a month. Which is more than my mortgage! Recently he went back to court to try to have child support lowered. They lowered it by about $30 a month (ha ha to him) so now he is threatening to get 50/50 custody. Keep in mind he can see our kids pretty much anytime he wants and he has visitation one night a week (and hasn't used it consistently in over a year. He always has excuses) how he (or Adam) think that it would be cheaper to have your child half the time when you barely see them now than paying a couple of hundred dollars in child support is beyond me. If he would get 50/50 custody he would now be responsible for $500 of daycare bills a month, food and diapers for them, medical bills for dr apts he have to take them to while they were in his care plus extra utilities since  they are living with him, school expenses, he'd now have to buy clothing for them and shoes etc. Its expensive! Adam complained about having to buy bunk beds. Duh that's what you do when  you have children! These dumb dumbs act like if child support is gone  then they have all that money back to spend on themselves. Nope they will actually have to spend that and MORE on their kid if they have them 50% of the time.  Plus if the parents live in different school districts the former noncustodial parent now has to get the kid back and forth to their original school district. It aint cheap.
I doubt Cory cares about the child support at all. HE just wants what is best for his girls.

 

As for Issac calling Javi "Dad" , in this case, I don't think its right. JMO but Kail isn't really interested in being married to Javi anymore. She doesn't seem to want the relationship to continue. It will de devastating for Issac to lose Javi and Kail basically encouraging him to call him dad and become so close to him when his real father is a perfectly good dad and lives right down the road.. just wasn't very smart. Kail lies about pretty much everything so her saying its fine if issac called Vee mommy, I don't believe it for a second! If she wasn't getting along with Vee she would lose her shit and demand Issac stop doing that. If they get divorced and Lincoln called his new stepmommy "mom" I don't think Kail would appreciate that either.

Edited May 5, 2016 by kira28

[HooHooHoo]

What time does Isaac go to school? Isn't he in kindergarten?  The clock said 10:11 and it was very bright out. These kids aren't missing to school to film I hope. 

[AdorkableWitch]

6 minutes ago, HooHooHoo said:

What time does Isaac go to school? Isn't he in kindergarten?  The clock said 10:11 and it was very bright out. These kids aren't missing to school to film I hope. 

He might be in half day kindergarten and go in the afternoon.

[ChocolateAddict]

One of the reasons why I like Miranda is that she went above and beyond for two little girls who weren't hers even though their mother gave her sh*t for it, both on camera and on social media.  Miranda took Ali to appointments, took care of them when Corey had to work and was supportive of having them move in 5 days a week even though she was pregnant.  Jenelle can't even turn up to her own kid's parent-teacher interview and Miranda has been more of a mother to those girls than Leah over the last few months.  

[Katt]

Mkay mentioned Miranda worked for the Sheriff's dept. Becoiming a deputy is vastly different to joining the police force. In some jurisdictions, all that is required to become a sheriff's deputy is a HS diploma and training through ride-alongs with a more experienced partner. She clearly IS more intelligent than Leah, regardless, because you'd have to be a mannequin to be dumber. 

Kira28, I hope nothing but shit storms for your ex.

[butterbody]

I don't understand the title of this thread, "didn't mean it." What did I miss?

[Mkay]

37 minutes ago, butterbody said:

I don't understand the title of this thread, "didn't mean it." What did I miss?

It's the title of the episode. 

[butterbody]

Yes. Thank you. I still don't get the reference as to who didn't mean what...

[Mkay]

1 minute ago, butterbody said:

Yes. Thank you. I still don't get the reference as to who didn't mean what...

Sorry. I saw title of thread and assumed you meant this. I'm not really sure why it was called that. Good question. 

[iheartla]

On May 4, 2016 at 8:50 PM, ArizonaGrown said:

I have a question about Kails friend who seemed to have moved in with her after Javi was deployed. At the end of the show Kail said she was going to take Isaac to school which would mean it was pretty early right? Well her friend was there with her daughter (i assume) and it just seems weird for your "friend" to be there constantly once husband gone to me - like you are not in high school. Just grow up and act like the independent single mom you think you are.

If my memory serves me correctly, Sterling stayed with her for a while after she returned home from her plastic surgery in Florida. Which would make sense because I noticed Kail's bottom looked massive in that scene.

[blubld43]

5 hours ago, iheartla said:

Which would make sense because I noticed Kail's bottom looked massive in that scene.

lol, a surgery Kail really did not need.  WTF is up with huge bottoms on women now?  Is it the K family influence?  Several of the TM "stars" seem to find that family something to emulate, i.e., Farrah with her sex tapes and multiple plastic surgeries.

[shelley1234]

The big booty look seems trendy and popular now.  I was going through my pinterest feed the other day and I follow a lot of things about diet and fitness and there are pins galore about squats to make your booty pop.  I have no arse to speak of, so my body is never gonna conform to this bootylicious trend.  

[Katt]

I won't be adding squats to my workout regime then. I'ma just wait until the flat arse comes into fashion. 

[ReadMeLattice]

It's part of the overall trend of curviness coming back into fashion. In some ways it's nice because anorexia and bulimia rates have gone down, but people take everything to a plastic surgeon, unfortunately. 

I have a disproportionate butt and am so glad for this trend. It might turn back around, but eventually everybody's body type gets a chance to be in fashion, I guess, lol. 

Edited May 5, 2016 by Lm2162

[BitterApple]

3 hours ago, Katt said:

I won't be adding squats to my workout regime then. I'ma just wait until the flat arse comes into fashion. 

Squats kill my knees. I think natural curves are wonderful, but I wouldn't go through the pain of surgery to get a bigger butt. 

[CofCinci]

Why work out when you can get free plastic surgery and have your fat and other chemicals injected into your ass?

[teapot]

2 hours ago, Lm2162 said:

 

I have a disproportionate butt and am so glad for this trend. It might turn back around, but eventually everybody's body type gets a chance to be in fashion, I guess, lol. 

me too, thanks to my Italian mama!!

[StatisticalOutlier]

On 5/3/2016 at 8:55 AM, Ljohnson1987 said:

Kail: Yawn. Wah, wah, wah! Javi is away and I have to be a single Mom. Newsflash, Kail... People do it everyday, and don't get paid by MTV to do it.

I think about the families of men who were serving in Vietnam (many against their will), and compare their experience with what goes on today.  Javi chose the military as a career and has a video phone conference with his family every day.  I know that even just separation is tough, but they have no idea how good they have it.  I'd love to see how they would handle being incommunicado except for hand-written letters mailed from overseas, while he's tromping around in a jungle somewhere with people shooting at him. 

 

On 5/4/2016 at 10:37 AM, charmed1 said:

But on more than one occasion, we've seen Corey brushing their hair, making sure they're properly groomed, etc. He didn't just hand over the responsibility of his children's care to his wife or anyone else.

I wish he'd hand over the responsibility of his beard's care to his wife or anyone else.

[Phoebe70]

Perhaps I'm an overprotective mom, but I was amazed (and not in a good way) that Janelle would let Kaiser go on that roller coaster-type toy and practically ride out into the street!  At one point Jace was even pushing him.  I guess she and Lurch were too concerned with raking leaves.  Ugh. 

[ghoulina]

22 hours ago, kira28 said:

As for Issac calling Javi "Dad" , in this case, I don't think its right. JMO but Kail isn't really interested in being married to Javi anymore. She doesn't seem to want the relationship to continue. It will de devastating for Issac to lose Javi and Kail basically encouraging him to call him dad and become so close to him when his real father is a perfectly good dad and lives right down the road.. just wasn't very smart.

I agree that it's going to be devastating when they split. And I do think Kail was pushing for Javi to be Replacement Daddy in the beginning. But no matter what she did, or didn't do, with those two living in the house together, they were either going to develop a bond or they weren't. Isaac is just such a sweet kid and I think, for the most part, Javi has been very involved with him and treated him like a son. The time to protect Isaac from getting too close would have been before she decided to move in and get married so quickly. After that, I don't think she had much control. Kids get attached easily, but unfortunately the unattaching isn't quite as swift. 

[DNR]

Perhaps I'm an overprotective mom, but I was amazed (and not in a good way) that Janelle would let Kaiser go on that roller coaster-type toy and practically ride out into the street!  At one point Jace was even pushing him.  I guess she and Lurch were too concerned with raking leaves.  Ugh. 

I was waiting for the Roll to go flying off that roller coaster , crack his skull with his brains leaking on the driveway. A helmet maybe Janelle and never mind the traffic . I feel like I'm watching Domestic abuse slowly play out as Creepy Dave dominates who Janelle will see ( Nathan now - looks like it will be Babs that's out next episode) and makes threats. 911 calls ahead ! Can I go save the Roll and give him a happy life ? I'm sad for that little chubber :(

[ghoulina]

That toy looked fun, but way too fast. There was really no way to stop it. An older kid might have known how to use their feet to slow it down (if that's possible), but Roll just looked like he was along for the ride. He's a baby! I agree - helmet, and maybe some barrier to stop it at a certain point. Just because something is made for kids, that doesn't mean it's SAFE for kids. 

[DNR]

On May 4, 2016 at 10:14 AM, gunderda said:

Nathan was the same at first..... they all are..... and then crazy Jenelle gets to them.  I think we see true David starting next week.

Jenelle said she sprung it on Nathan at the last minute.  She knew he would have no other choice than to be ok with it and meet up with David to see Kaiser. She made it seem like Nathan had to drive a little ways (how far is it from where Nathan lives to Jenelle?) because she said "what's he going to do? Just turn around and not see Kaiser?" 

 

Because he now has a JOB... and HOUSE..... he will show them!!!  ;)

Do we know for sure if his child support did go up to $1000?  That would be so hilarious.

 

So kids should never call their step-parents mom or dad?   okk.............

My nephews have a step-mom.  They also have a mom who is living.  Who is a fairly decent mom if she's not on drugs.  However they don't see her that much (long weekends and holidays mostly).  My oldest nephew is 11 so I'm not sure he'll switch to calling his step-mom "mom" but I hope my youngest does.  Because she is every bit of a mother to them.  I also have two friends that have step-kids and they are called 'mom'.  Their bio moms are also still around. There is nothing wrong with it.

Especially with Isaac, he is young enough that it would be confusing if Kail only called Javi Dad/daddy to Lincoln.  And we've seen her this season still calling him Javi around Isaac.  It's just been since the deployment that she's called him dad/daddy all the time around them. 

I think I recall, maybe it was Maci , saying during an  AfterShow that their partners / boyfriends were " saving " the children. Not sure if she was referring to just Taylor or all the step- Dads. My first thought was that Jo , Corey have been involved in the kids lives since day one - no need for a savior. As for the others , Aubree is lucky to have Cole- Adumb just stares at his phone when he's got visitation.  Ryan is another zero but maybe is getting a little better with age . And Isaac is so sweet and seems to love Javi a lot . Even tho I hate Javi , he's a good stepdad.

[blubld43]

1 hour ago, DNR said:

Can I go save the Roll and give him a happy life ? I'm sad for that little chubber :(

Let me know if I can ride shotgun.

[lezlers]

On ‎5‎/‎4‎/‎2016 at 11:55 AM, Soobs said:

Kail really knows how to work poor, sensitive Isaac into a lather over Javi being gone. How about telling the kid to go play when you're discussing Isis. I don't think it occurred to Isaac to be scared until Kail kept asking him if he was.

One minute Janelle is saying she'd never use her kid against Nathan and then the next scene she's saying that Nathan needs to get his lady to drop the charges or she's going to make real trouble for him with custody. I love how it's Nathan's girlfriend's fault that Janelle clocked her. The jury at her trial is going to love that.

Apparently so, since she was acquitted. 

On ‎5‎/‎4‎/‎2016 at 0:08 PM, Mkay said:

She quit long before the kids came into the picture. She worked out of Point Plesant with Mason County Sheriff's Department which is an hour and half away. I remember looking way back around the time they got married to see if she was still employed there. I couldn't find her but did find when she used to work there. (My husband used to reserve to keep his liscense so I was interested and nosey.) I'm thinking she quit once they got married.  That's one heck of a drive. 

I find that kind of thing sad.  It's not like she just got a job at the Qwick E Stop to kill some time.  She trained and became a police officer, only to quit the moment she got a ring on her finger.  Women are already dismissed and not taken seriously in traditionally male dominated professions, that kind of thing really doesn't help.

Also, if you look up "abuser" in a textbook, there will be a picture of Uncle Dave.  He is so transparent.  They've been dating what, a few weeks, and he's taking Kaiser to visits and "supervising"?  Not allowing Jenelle to talk directly to Nathan about their son?  Aw, hell naw.  Can you imagine if the tables were turned and Nathan had Jessica bring Kaiser to meet Jenelle and then "supervise" her time with him?  She'd spontaneously combust from rage.   These people would do a lot better if they had an ounce of empathy for the other person.  If she had the ability to put herself in Nathan's shoes for one millisecond, she'd maybe see how absurd her actions have been.  And honestly?  They didn't have a custody order at the time this was filmed (I don't know what's going on in real time) so theoretically the tables COULD have easily turned.   There would be nothing to stop Nathan from taking Kaiser from Dave and going home with him.  He would be doing absolutely nothing illegal.  I kind of wish he would have.  God I loathe Jenelle.

Edited May 5, 2016 by lezlers

[Raynedon]

On 5/5/2016 at 10:37 PM, Katt said:

Mkay mentioned Miranda worked for the Sheriff's dept. Becoiming a deputy is vastly different to joining the police force. In some jurisdictions, all that is required to become a sheriff's deputy is a HS diploma and training through ride-alongs with a more experienced partner. She clearly IS more intelligent than Leah, regardless, because you'd have to be a mannequin to be dumber. 

I have a relative who is a deputy in a large county sheriff department and IMO a deputy is a police officer.  He went to the police academy alongside state police trainees; the only difference was that after their graduation, they each went their own way - him to his county department, others to their own county, town, or state department.  It was pretty hardcore and quite a long process.  I'm not familiar with any jurisdiction, especially in this day and age, where their training would only consist of ride-alongs. 

[Tatum]

16 hours ago, lezlers said:

 

I find that kind of thing sad.  It's not like she just got a job at the Qwick E Stop to kill some time.  She trained and became a police officer, only to quit the moment she got a ring on her finger.  Women are already dismissed and not taken seriously in traditionally male dominated professions, that kind of thing really doesn't help.

 

I know! I feel the same way about moms who work who are always using their kids as reasons they can't do overtime or get their assigned work done. (This does not include working moms who have a very occasional issue that needs some flexibility, I am talking about chronic slackers who use their kids as a convenient excuse).

 

I wonder why she quit- if she only planned to work until marriage, if she found that police work was not suited to her, if Corey pressured her to stay home...could be a lot of reasons.

[HeySandyStrange]

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I wonder why she quit- if she only planned to work until marriage, if she found that police work was not suited to her, if Corey pressured her to stay home...could be a lot of reasons

 

Miranda and Corey seem fairly traditionally minded, so I'm not so surprised that Miranda quit the police force once she got married. I'm sure there are other reasons why she quit too, including she just didn't like the job and was overwhelmed by it. She wouldn't be the first person who couldn't handle being a police officer, either; plenty of males have had to walk away from the force. Or she maybe experienced a lot of sexism, I wouldn't be surprised. While it would've been nice to see someone like Miranda stay in the force after marriage, it is a personal choice and I'm giving her the benefit of a doubt that she had many legit reasons why she decided to leave.

[blubld43]

10 minutes ago, HeySandyStrange said:

While it would've been nice to see someone like Miranda stay in the force after marriage, it is a personal choice and I'm giving her the benefit of a doubt that she had many legit reasons why she decided to leave.

My first guess is that she has all these kids she's caring for, so....I can't imagine what daycare costs now; it was expensive 25 years ago.  Now add in having to get two of them into an after school program, one of whom is challenged physically.  I'm overwhelmed thinking about it.  Certainly  it must be financially possible for one of them to stay home,  so i don't blame her for this decision.  Not at all.  

Edited May 6, 2016 by blubld43

[HeySandyStrange]

3 minutes ago, blubld43 said:

My first guess is that she has all these kids she's caring for, so....I can't imagine what daycare costs now; it was expensive 25 years ago.  Now add in having to get two of them into an after school program, one of whom is challenged physically.  I'm overwhelmed thinking about it.  Certainly  it must be financially possible for one of them to stay home,  so i don't blame her for this decision.  Not at all.  

Oh, most definitely! Daycare cost are insane these days. I'm betting that daycare for two children, one with special needs, would be $900+ a month at least. Another theory I heard once about Miranda staying home was that Corey and her wanted to look good, so to speak, as full time caregivers for the girlses. I can believe that, because you know Leah would throw a fit and demand the girls be with her instead of in daycare while Corey and Miranda worked, thus Corey losing out on his time with them.

[Mkay]

Her job was an hour and half from Cory's house. I'm sure that had something to do with it. That was only one way. So to work and back would be 3 hours.  That's my guess. 

Edited May 6, 2016 by Mkay

[Christina]

I don't know if it is a requirement in all states, but both Ohio and West Virginia seem to have rules that you must live in the city or county that you serve. If you work for the city police department, you have to live in city limits, and sheriffs have to live in the county. Several years ago, I think in 2004, Appalachia from Ohio, West Virginia and into Kentucky were hit with two major floods. First one in September and the second in January. Before cleanup and repairs were completed from the Sept mess, January hit and insurers said, "We already paid for that repair. Prove it was complete before the second flood." Although that doesn't sound unreasonable, the result was extensive delays.

I tell you that to tell you that the inter police force fighting became news, with officers complaining that other officers lived outside of the designated area and therefore shouldn't be allowed to receive annual bonuses, promotions, etc. Really childish stuff that you wouldn't expect from adults. In my county, there was an interim election for Sheriff, and all the candidates were claiming the others didn't live in the county, when none of them were, while their homes were being repaired. They rented out of the county, but literally 10 minutes from the office. If Miranda worked for a department outside of the county where Corey lived, and it sounds like she did, she couldn't stay with that department when she moved in with him. If, while she was working as a cop, the police were acting like they did during the flooding (and it was in several areas, which was why it became news), she may have decided the job wasn't for her. Or, she may have decided the job just wasn't for her after working for a period of time.

I don't have the temperament to work in law enforcement. I'm not chasing someone in the heat; I'd tase them before they made it two steps and end up in jail for abuse of power. I watched that police chase in California yesterday, where an hour or two into it, the big machinery arrived and broke out the back glass. It was another 30 minutes or so before they threw the smoke grenade in the car so the man would jump out, and let the dog bring him down. I wouldn't have lasted that long. The man was wanted for murder. I would have thrown things to break the windows so I could throw the smoke bomb in within the first 10 minutes, then pouted about the paperwork until the other cops threatened to duct tape my mouth shut. 

[The Girlses Cat]

1 hour ago, Mkay said:

Her job was an hour and half from Cory's house. I'm sure that had something to do with it. That was only one way. So to work and back would be 3 hours.  That's my guess. 

Plus most officers work a 12 hour shift. I can't imagine working 15 hours a day and then having to come home and help to take care of 2 children, 1 with a disability! I think Corey also works long hours... it probably just was not feasible for her to continue working there. 

[Mkay]

He didn't have the girls that often when she was an officer.  I don't think it would have been that big of an issue at that time. The county thing you explained r@Christina sounds like that coild

be it.  

Edited May 6, 2016 by Mkay

[lezlers]

4 hours ago, Mkay said:

He didn't have the girls that often when she was an officer.  I don't think it would have been that big of an issue at that time. The county thing you explained r@Christina sounds like that coild

be it.  

I'm pretty sure he just had the girlses on the weekends when she quit so I seriously doubt that was it.   To each their own, I just cringe when I imagine her saying"I know I worked really hard to become a police officer, but I just met this nice boy and he wants me to stay in his house and take care of his kids so bye, ya'll!"   Talk about taking 10 steps back for feminism.   But I don't know Miranda (the irony of her name in her prior profession always makes me smile) or her reasons for quitting so I fully own my wild speculation.   I happen to know a lot of police officers and know how hard it was for them to obtain their current positions so I'm just flabbergasted that someone would go through all of that just to quit mere months later to stay at home.   I'm sure she has her reasons.  I hope they're more substantial than just killing time until she got her Mrs degree, you know?

Edited May 6, 2016 by lezlers

[DangerousMinds]

Exactly, lezlers.

[Mkay]

The new episode recap is on Ashley's Reality Roundup. Good Stuff!!

[Katt]

I laughed so hard at "the Crypt Keeper". LOL

[mainemooncat]

Long time lurker (like TWOP long ago) but first time poster.  You guys crack me up and keep me watching this trainwreck!  Just wanted to shed light on the Miranda/deputy/police officer thing.  I work as an administrator for a police department and my boyfriend is a deputy sheriff for our county.  All sheriff departments in my area require that full-time deputies with full law enforcement duties and responsibilities are POST certified (had to go through the police academy).  They are law enforcement officers with full arrest authority in the entire state (in my case, Tennessee).  Our particular deputies do not have to live in county because our county is so rural and so small, but if they want a take home patrol car, those are issued only to in-county deputies.  The county where I work requires all police officers and all deputies to live in the county.  Reserve deputies are something different.  These are individuals that offer support to the departments under a variety of different circumstances and do not necessarily have to have POST certification.  They can be retired from another law enforcement agency that is out of state and not want to go through the POST certification process in their new state or they can be "newbies" looking to get into law enforcement.  Usually reserve deputies are required to have the GED/high school diploma and have completed ride-alongs with deputies.  They do not have the authority that a full deputy has, depending on jurisdiction, etc.  Maybe Miranda was a reserve deputy?  This I do not know for sure because I do not have the mad skillz of Internet searching but I do know that reserve deputies are more often female rather than full-time deputies and/or officers because of it is a way for the department to "diversify" without actually hiring females full-time.  :(  

I will tell you from experience that a cop does not usually walk away from the job, even after only a year and a half.  There is something in them that requires them to serve as a police officer.  I have many officers here in my own department that are on their second "career" as an officer.  They put in 30 years with their original department, picked up a pension, then came to Tennessee to "retire" and ended up working for us because they can't let the job go.  We also have several female officers and they are the same way, driven and very dedicated to police work.  Miranda may have been investigating law enforcement as a reserve deputy and then ended up leaving because it did not work out for her in terms of what her new family required.  Even if that was the case, props to her to serve even in a reserve capacity.

[TaxNerd]

She may have been informally asked to leave also, since she is on a reality show, or told she would have to choose.

[smores]

If she left because she got married and was going to be helping with the kids/having her baby, I don't see that as a step backwards for feminism.  I've always viewed feminism as the ability to make the best choice for you and your situation.  For some women, it's having a career, being a lawyer, maybe, and not apologizing for staying on track with that while also having a family.  But, for other women, that may very well mean being a stay at home mother.  Or, a housewife.  If you are able to pay your bills and it's the situation that works best for your family and it is what you CHOOSE to do, then I don't see it as anti-feminism.  

Now, if Cory was standing there saying, Get in the kitchen, make my dinner, clean up this house, and why are these kids running around screaming? Well, that would be a different story.  But, he was married to Leah, so we can pretty much assume that he's not that guy, otherwise Leah might have some sort of household skills.  LOL!

[TaxNerd]

Something I keep thinking about: when Kaiser and Nathan were on a playdate at Chuck E Cheese with Jenelle's boyfriend, what was to prevent Nathan from just taking the kid?  

I mean if police got involved, wouldn't they have to let Nathan take the kid home?  If I were Nathan, I would show up to the playdate with his birth certificate, my ID, and my lawyer.  Of course, maybe that's why I have custody of my kids!  

[ReadMeLattice]

9 minutes ago, TaxNerd said:

Something I keep thinking about: when Kaiser and Nathan were on a playdate at Chuck E Cheese with Jenelle's boyfriend, what was to prevent Nathan from just taking the kid?  

I mean if police got involved, wouldn't they have to let Nathan take the kid home?  If I were Nathan, I would show up to the playdate with his birth certificate, my ID, and my lawyer.  Of course, maybe that's why I have custody of my kids!  

Yeah, I don't get the buddy-buddy thing with Dave. Some say that was the only way for him to see his son but as far as I know, that's not legally true? They had no custody agreement and Kaiser wasn't with Jenelle, he was with Dave, who has zero parental rights. 

[Mkay]

I think that if Nathan wanted to take the roll home Janelle couldn't do anything about it. There is no custody agreement. He is Kaisers father. No one could stop him. 

 

My my husband reserved in our small town. He went to the police academy, took the required college courses, and takes the courses he needs to keep his liscense up to date. While "active" he is required to work at least 16 hours a month.  He likes keeping his license since he is a civilian worker on an army depot base and his job isn't secure. That way he always has something to fall back on. He gets to drive one of the cars or partner, which ever he wants. He hasn't done it in about a yr but ever so often he will go back to the police department and sign up to do it again to keep his liscense current. 

[Tatum]

With regards to Chuck E Cheese- they stamp the hands of every kid that comes through and give the adult with them a matching stamp. If Nathan tried to leave with the baby, the staff would stop him. Now granted they aren't cops, but they probably WOULD call the cops if Nathan ignored them and ran off with Kaiser. I'm guessing that would probably be embarrassing enough that Nathan would not do it. That likely was Jenelle's sole reason for picking that place, as Kaiser is a little young for most of the things there.

 

At my nieces birthday party there, my sister-in-law brought several kids besides her own when she walked in the building. When the parents came to pick them up and then tried to leave with their own kids the staff stopped them at the door and wouldn't let them pass.

My SIL had to accompany all the kids she'd brought in out of the building. Not sure what would've happened had she already left.

Edited May 9, 2016 by Tatum