Party of One: Unpopular TV Opinions

[callie lee 29]

6 hours ago, GaT said:

My problem is that I actually have no interest in The Mandalorian, but I really want to see baby Yoda, so I'm going to watch it anyway.

Same. I have 0 interest in Star Wars but I need to see Baby Yoda in whatever scene has him riding on a bike or something with the wind in his face. My phone rejects playing the gif after 3,795 times.

[GaT]

4 hours ago, callie lee 29 said:

Same. I have 0 interest in Star Wars but I need to see Baby Yoda in whatever scene has him riding on a bike or something with the wind in his face. My phone rejects playing the gif after 3,795 times.

Well, I just started the second episode, & I am soooooo bored. This is going to be a struggle to get through.

[DrSpaceman73]

20 hours ago, DoctorAtomic said:

Kudos for the actor or whomever gave that direction. I don't think watching her being crazy would have fit. 

I guess my GOT UO is that I have no desire to read the books. I slogged literally through 20 years of Wheel of Time and the ending was lame af. I'm not giving Martin my money for him to wait till I retire to read the final book. There's no way he can stick the landing now anyway. 

I am not sure that is an unpopular GOT opinion.  I have no desire to read the books and I loved the series literally right up until the last episode or two.  If they could go back to say right after the killing of the Night King and just redo the last few episodes I'd be happy. 

But the books?  No.  From what I have heard they are long, drawn out and very weird.  I'll never read them.  For one I just don't have the time but even if I did, not interested. 

On ‎1‎/‎10‎/‎2020 at 11:13 PM, kiddo82 said:

Better Things belongs in the comedy-that's-not-a-comedy group.  At least Atlanta and Mrs. Maisel have observational or absurdist humor and they do make me laugh more so than a strict drama.  While I get the point that neither is particularly laugh out loud funny I'd still consider them comedies.   Better Things is just a miserable show about miserable people.  It's not even dark or dry or droll.  It's just miserable.

I've never watched that show and now I am glad I have not been sucked in, I suspected as much based on what I have seen of the ads.  I have never been a Pamela Adlon fan for one based on her appearances in the Louis CK vehicles and I got the impression this show was much in the same vein as Louie. 

Which leads to the same type of criticism of that show, Louie, also billed as a comedy.  Much like the other shows mentioned, it had its funny moments and had some very interesting things, but much of it was so hit and miss, first of all.  And second, some of it was just not just awkward but uncomfortable, in some cases gross and just intolerable to watch.  His comedy is much the same way.  I know some people, before his #metoo related allegations came out, just adored Louis CK, not just his show but his stand up and not just fans but other comedians.  Not that I didn't like him, but I never got all the praise. 

[Anduin]

34 minutes ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

I am not sure that is an unpopular GOT opinion.  I have no desire to read the books and I loved the series literally right up until the last episode or two.  If they could go back to say right after the killing of the Night King and just redo the last few episodes I'd be happy. 

But the books?  No.  From what I have heard they are long, drawn out and very weird.  I'll never read them.  For one I just don't have the time but even if I did, not interested.

I will say, the first three really snap along nicely. The pace really slows down with AFFC. So yes, best to wait until they're finished.

[DoctorAtomic]

5 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

But the books?  No.  From what I have heard they are long, drawn out and very weird.  I'll never read them.  For one I just don't have the time but even if I did, not interested. 

Wheel of Time was much the same which is not surprising because both authors were contemporaries. On the one hand, I can appreciate them breaking the mold in that you don't have to have every fantasy series be a trilogy and it's ok for authors to play around in the universe they created, but one WOT book literally covered about a week in book-time and we waited like 18 months for the book to come out. I've heard GOT is the same. 

5 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

Which leads to the same type of criticism of that show, Louie, also billed as a comedy. 

Which show? The HBO one or the FX one?

[DearEvette]

5 hours ago, Anduin said:

I will say, the first three really snap along nicely. The pace really slows down with AFFC. So yes, best to wait until they're finished.

So much this.  The first three books are outstanding, with the third being, imo, fan-fucking-tastic.  But it is the fourth book where things get bad. No coincidence this book came out after the tv series began.

Although I can totally co-sign on not wanting to go back and read the books a series is based on especially if you like the series.  My anecdotal experience is enough gets changed in translation that usually the book people don't like or grumble about the tv/movie version or the tv native folks much prefer the tv version and can't get into the books.  I was that way with True Blood.  Never read the books but enjoyed  the tv series (well at least the first few seasons).  Went back and read the first book of the series and LaFayette in the book was sooooo not the Lafayette on the show I just couldn't reconcile the book version of him so I never tried the rest.

[DoctorAtomic]

Wheel of Time was the same up until book 5 I'd say. Then like 11 or 12 was good. There was a 7 year period where it just ground and ground. 

That said, I am stoked for the tv show because there's plenty of people who make jokes about the character traits and many people wondering what's going to be cut.

[Haleth]

17 hours ago, DearEvette said:

So much this.  The first three books are outstanding, with the third being, imo, fan-fucking-tastic.  But it is the fourth book where things get bad. No coincidence this book came out after the tv series began.

The fourth book was published in 2000.  The fifth in 2011.  We've been holding our breath since then for the sixth.

[Anduin]

43 minutes ago, Haleth said:

The fourth book was published in 2000.  The fifth in 2011.  We've been holding our breath since then for the sixth.

AFFC in 2000? I had to check, no, it was 2005. Still a long wait, but not quite that long.

Anyway, my UO is that I stopped watching GOT back when everyone else was still in love with it. I found myself skipping through the last ep of S2, realised I was no longer enjoying it, and stopped watching.

[selkie]

17 hours ago, DoctorAtomic said:

Wheel of Time was the same up until book 5 I'd say. Then like 11 or 12 was good. There was a 7 year period where it just ground and ground. 

That said, I am stoked for the tv show because there's plenty of people who make jokes about the character traits and many people wondering what's going to be cut.

 

Robert Jordan essentially lost control of his own cast of characters around book 7. IMO, Sanderson did a good job of pulling everything back together after Jordan's death. 

I'm also looking forward to the tv series in part because they'll have to consolidate the heck out of a bunch of stuff in order to keep it moving along. 

[Haleth]

1 hour ago, Anduin said:

AFFC in 2000? I had to check, no, it was 2005. Still a long wait, but not quite that long.

Anyway, my UO is that I stopped watching GOT back when everyone else was still in love with it. I found myself skipping through the last ep of S2, realised I was no longer enjoying it, and stopped watching.

Oh, shoot. Sorry, Anduin. I had my books out of order on the shelf.  You are correct. AFfC was 2005.  A Storm of Swords was 2000. 

[DoctorAtomic]

2 hours ago, selkie said:

Robert Jordan essentially lost control of his own cast of characters around book 7. IMO, Sanderson did a good job of pulling everything back together after Jordan's death. 

I'm also looking forward to the tv series in part because they'll have to consolidate the heck out of a bunch of stuff in order to keep it moving along. 

That's fair. I had zero issues with the new author and I think the third and second to last moved at a good clip. I just didn't care for the resolution and ending myself. I found it OOC for the established universe. 

I so hope the show will put in a few easter eggs for fun for the book readers. 

[Neurochick]

My UO, I watched about 7 seasons of "Call The Midwife" and have no idea why.  It's a tedious show.  I'd rather watch "This is Us."

Oh, and I haven't watched Zoey's Extraordinary whatever because the actress was awful in "What/If" on Netflix and as soon as I saw the generic "overweight, black best friend (who probably has no storyline and exists only to be "sassy" I decided the show was crap and wasn't for me.

[Drogo]

TV opinions, not books.  There's a place to discuss books. 

[proserpina65]

6 hours ago, Anduin said:

AFFC in 2000? I had to check, no, it was 2005. Still a long wait, but not quite that long

Still 6 years before the show started, though.

My unpopular opinion about GOT is that I don't think it got worse after the show left the books behind.  There was a slightly different feel, and some unevenness in the writing, but the worse season by far was Season 5, when the show still had the last two books as a blueprint.  It actually got better after that.  Not the highs of Seasons 3 & 4, but definitely better.

On ‎01‎/‎14‎/‎2020 at 2:51 PM, DearEvette said:

But it is the fourth book where things get bad. No coincidence this book came out after the tv series began.

It didn't.  Book 4 came out before the show started.

6 hours ago, Anduin said:

AFFC in 2000? I had to check, no, it was 2005. Still a long wait, but not quite that long.

Anyway, my UO is that I stopped watching GOT back when everyone else was still in love with it. I found myself skipping through the last ep of S2, realised I was no longer enjoying it, and stopped watching.

That's pretty much the best reason to stop watching any show.

2 hours ago, Neurochick said:

My UO, I watched about 7 seasons of "Call The Midwife" and have no idea why.  It's a tedious show.  I'd rather watch "This is Us."

Them's fighting words!  lol

[ramble]

Add me to the big meh on Baby Yoda club. I’ve seen some Star Wars stuff but overall I’m a Star Trek gal. Yes he’s cute but my dogs are cuter. 

I powered through all of The Witcher. I did do some fast forwarding at times for the characters that I was less interested in. I liked it but didn’t love it. I did appreciate the Cavill because, well, yum. However the story wasn’t the most compelling. I’m holding out hope for season two because from some reading on line it sounds like it should pick up. 

[Mabinogia]

1 minute ago, ramble said:

Add me to the big meh on Baby Yoda club. I’ve seen some Star Wars stuff but overall I’m a Star Trek gal. Yes he’s cute but my dogs are cuter. 

I'm a Star Wars fan, been that way since I saw the first movie as a kid however I could give or take Baby Yoda. He's cute enough but I'll take BB8 over Baby Yoda any day. 

[topanga]

On 1/15/2020 at 12:51 PM, Neurochick said:

My UO, I watched about 7 seasons of "Call The Midwife" and have no idea why.  It's a tedious show.  I'd rather watch "This is Us."

Oh, and I haven't watched Zoey's Extraordinary whatever because the actress was awful in "What/If" on Netflix and as soon as I saw the generic "overweight, black best friend (who probably has no storyline and exists only to be "sassy" I decided the show was crap and wasn't for me.

I watched Zoey’s Extraordinary Playlist because I’m a musical theater nerd, and I liked the premise. The show was pretty good, but yeah, the “sassy black friend” trope is very tiresome. And lazy. 

[slf]

Sheldon and Penny had more chemistry together in the first season of TBBT than either had with anyone else during the rest of the series.

[Blergh]

I have no dog or wookie in the race, but I just hope this Baby Yoda grows up to have closer to having the fun,mischievous, wise,supportive  and quirky Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi persona than the wet-blanket, bummer one of the prequels! 

[Shannon L.]

While there are things I like about Watchmen, on the whole, I thought it was ridiculous and I was never in a rush to get to the next episode.  I'm not bothered that it's not coming back for another season. 

[janie jones]

On 1/17/2020 at 8:58 AM, Blergh said:

I have no dog or wookie in the race, but I just hope this Baby Yoda grows up to have closer to having the fun,mischievous, wise,supportive  and quirky Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi persona than the wet-blanket, bummer one of the prequels! 

Have you seen it?  I have not.  But my understanding is the "Baby Yoda" isn't actually Yoda (or maybe that it wasn't stated either way), but since no one knows the name of Yoda's species, they just call him Baby Yoda.  So he may grow up to be anything!

[DoctorAtomic]

Yeah, it's not actually Yoda the character. They just call it that. Fanboys were being overly didactic about it until they realized they were sitting alone at lunchtime and let it go.

I haven't seen the show, just read some articles.

Edited January 18, 2020 by DoctorAtomic

[Blergh]

16 hours ago, janie jones said:

Have you seen it?  I have not.  But my understanding is the "Baby Yoda" isn't actually Yoda (or maybe that it wasn't stated either way), but since no one knows the name of Yoda's species, they just call him Baby Yoda.  So he may grow up to be anything!

 Well, just as I would prefer an average human being to wind up being cool, clever, humorous and fun to being a wet-blanket bummer so I hope this winds up the case with this one called Baby Yoda- regardless of whether he is  merely a typical individual from the species of the Jedi Master or winds up becoming that particular character. No, having been scorched too many times by virtually everything SW tied  post Return of the Jedi winding up being meanspirited perp porns, I refuse to see this one.

[DrSpaceman73]

On ‎1‎/‎14‎/‎2020 at 1:09 PM, DoctorAtomic said:

Wheel of Time was much the same which is not surprising because both authors were contemporaries. On the one hand, I can appreciate them breaking the mold in that you don't have to have every fantasy series be a trilogy and it's ok for authors to play around in the universe they created, but one WOT book literally covered about a week in book-time and we waited like 18 months for the book to come out. I've heard GOT is the same. 

Which show? The HBO one or the FX one?

The FX one mainly.  I wasn't a big fan of the HBO one either but it was never that popular. 

[Blergh]

Shows that throw in scenes of gratuitous violence  to keep the audience from getting bored (and tuning out) have the opposite effect on me: I get instantly bored and tune them out ASAP (especially those scenes that appear to revel in the actions rather than condemn them). 

[DrSpaceman73]

On ‎1‎/‎17‎/‎2020 at 6:33 AM, slf said:

Sheldon and Penny had more chemistry together in the first season of TBBT than either had with anyone else during the rest of the series.

Leonard and Penny had NO chemistry together at all and I never found them believable as a couple.  Mostly I never saw why Penny was with Leonard other than he was not stupid and not a total muscle bound bro cliché douche like most of her boyfriends. 

Someone here or somewhere pointed out how they dated in real life, which is true and makes it even harder to believe that it was such an awful sales job on the show. 

Yes Sheldon and Penny had a more believable and organic relationship, even as friends, than anyone on the show. 

[auntlada]

2 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

Leonard and Penny had NO chemistry together at all and I never found them believable as a couple.  Mostly I never saw why Penny was with Leonard other than he was not stupid and not a total muscle bound bro cliché douche like most of her boyfriends. 

Someone here or somewhere pointed out how they dated in real life, which is true and makes it even harder to believe that it was such an awful sales job on the show. 

Yes Sheldon and Penny had a more believable and organic relationship, even as friends, than anyone on the show. 

The fact that they dated in real life explains the lack of chemistry on the show, according to Joey (from Friends). According to him, as long as the chemistry is there on stage (or presumably on TV), they aren't having sex in real life. When they start having sex in real life, the chemistry on stage disappears. I doubt it's true, but what do I know?

[Shannon L.]

2 hours ago, auntlada said:

The fact that they dated in real life explains the lack of chemistry on the show, according to Joey (from Friends). According to him, as long as the chemistry is there on stage (or presumably on TV), they aren't having sex in real life. When they start having sex in real life, the chemistry on stage disappears. I doubt it's true, but what do I know?

I think it depends on a lot of factors.  I thought Emily Blunt and Jon Krasinski could melt the screen with the chemistry they generated in A Quiet Place.

[andromeda331]

15 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

Leonard and Penny had NO chemistry together at all and I never found them believable as a couple.  Mostly I never saw why Penny was with Leonard other than he was not stupid and not a total muscle bound bro cliché douche like most of her boyfriends. 

Someone here or somewhere pointed out how they dated in real life, which is true and makes it even harder to believe that it was such an awful sales job on the show. 

Yes Sheldon and Penny had a more believable and organic relationship, even as friends, than anyone on the show. 

I never found them believable either. Mostly due to they never really explained or showed why they were into each other or together in the first place. Leonard thought Penny was hot and Leonard wasn't a stupid or a jerk like most of her boyfriends (although we only really saw one guy who was jerk). That's it. There was nothing else. They never went any deeper then that. They never connected. Leonard didn't like anything that Penny like and tended to look down on most of the stuff she liked as dumb and Penny pretty much thought the same thing about everything Leonard liked and Penny admitted that most of the time she had no idea what Leonard's even talking about. Sure opposites attract but they still have some kind of connection or something to talk about. Leonard and Penny had neither. 

While we're at it I didn't like Amy and Sheldon together either. Sure Amy before she changed was more like Sheldon but Sheldon didn't want to meet anyone. Raj and Howard pretended to be Sheldon on a dating website where they met Amy which Sheldon didn't know and neither did Amy. He only went to meet Amy due to Raj's telling him he'd hide a dirty sock in Sheldon's apartment. Sure he did end up liking Amy and they seemed to work in the beginning. But one he was constantly treating her like crap.  And two Amy changed she wanted more from Sheldon then he was interested in or willing to give. They should have broken up at that point.  They wanted different things. But nope Amy remained with Sheldon being constantly being annoyed and frustrated that he wouldn't be as romantic as she wanted or sleep with her and trying to come up with ways to convince Sheldon. As much as I didn't like Sheldon I agreed with him when she got mad at him for not doing what she wanted him to do on that train trip she arranged for them (I think it was for Valentine's Day) and he ended up talking with someone else on the train the whole time and ruining their date. When really it was Amy's fault for expecting something from Sheldon she knew he didn't want. Of course they ruin it by him kissing her and liking it. They should have broken up long before that. One being more into the other is very common on TV, books and movies but I hate it. Why waste so much time with someone who isn't interest or as interested? They should have broken up and both moved onto people who wanted what they wanted. 

[Haleth]

I just binged the three seasons of The Handmaid's Tale and based on reading of the forum it's a very UO that I think Elizabeth Moss was superb.  I didn't always care for the choices made by the character, but I thought Moss's acting was excellent throughout.  I also didn't mind that her words and actions didn't get her shot because as the (mostly) only POV character we needed her growing rebelliousness to move the plot.  I can understand complaints about pacing, but since I binged the show that wasn't a problem for me.

[DrSpaceman73]

37 minutes ago, Haleth said:

I just binged the three seasons of The Handmaid's Tale and based on reading of the forum it's a very UO that I think Elizabeth Moss was superb.  I didn't always care for the choices made by the character, but I thought Moss's acting was excellent throughout.  I also didn't mind that her words and actions didn't get her shot because as the (mostly) only POV character we needed her growing rebelliousness to move the plot.  I can understand complaints about pacing, but since I binged the show that wasn't a problem for me.

Yes I mostly had to stop watching because that show just moved so incredibly slow.  ANd it become redundant.  By mid season three I was done.  Maybe sometime I will go back and watch more since it can be binged. 

 

[Was-MArsenault]

. Night Court went on for too long

. Boston Legal should’ve had more seasons

. The John Larroquette Show and Dave's World are both underrated shows

[proserpina65]

5 hours ago, MikaelaArsenault said:

. Night Court went on for too long

. Boston Legal should’ve had more seasons

. The John Larroquette Show and Dave's World are both underrated shows

I completely agree with 1 and 3.

[Was-MArsenault]

Just now, proserpina65 said:

I completely agree with 1 and 3.

Night Court should've just ended after Season 7. Forget about even having a Season 8.

[andromeda331]

On 1/23/2020 at 6:53 AM, MikaelaArsenault said:

. Night Court went on for too long

Yes it did. The last few seasons were bad.

[DrSpaceman73]

On ‎1‎/‎23‎/‎2020 at 8:53 AM, MikaelaArsenault said:

. Night Court went on for too long

. Boston Legal should’ve had more seasons

. The John Larroquette Show and Dave's World are both underrated shows

I did enjoy Dave's World. 

Only saw a few episodes of the John Larroquette Show.  Recall it being just so so. 

Also now I am wondering what John Larroquette is doing now

[andromeda331]

29 minutes ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

I did enjoy Dave's World. 

Only saw a few episodes of the John Larroquette Show.  Recall it being just so so. 

Also now I am wondering what John Larroquette is doing now

He recently starred on The Librarians as Jenkins who worked for the library grump, sarcastic and awesome for all four seasons in his helping the Librarians and Guardian. He was one of my favorite characters on the show He was really cool. I loved his friendship with Baird. Oh, by the way he's really Galahad! And immortal which he ended up using a lot in his plans.  

[Bastet]

21 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

Also now I am wondering what John Larroquette is doing now

He guest starred in an episode of the Murphy Brown revival and had terrific chemistry with Candice Bergen (I didn't watch Boston Legal, so it wasn't a reunion for me, I just really enjoyed them together).  I hadn't seen him since way back when he was Lionel Tribbey on The West Wing, so that was fun.

Edited January 26, 2020 by Bastet

[BookWoman56]

3 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

Also now I am wondering what John Larroquette is doing now

Not sure what he’s doing now, but I will never forget his summation of the career phases of actors, that he did on some late night show. This isn’t verbatim but should be fairly close:

1. Who is John Larroquette?

2. We want John Larroquette.

3. We need a John Larroquette type.   

4. We need a younger John Larroquette.  

5.  Who is John Larroquette?

[Dancingjaneway]

On 1/13/2020 at 9:52 PM, callie lee 29 said:

Same. I have 0 interest in Star Wars but I need to see Baby Yoda in whatever scene has him riding on a bike or something with the wind in his face. My phone rejects playing the gif after 3,795 times.

That gif comes from episode 8 of the show. The last episode. Also I call the show The MandaSNOREian because it's boring to me. 

[Was-MArsenault]

14 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

I did enjoy Dave's World. 

Only saw a few episodes of the John Larroquette Show.  Recall it being just so so. 

Also now I am wondering what John Larroquette is doing now

He was recently in an episode of the new Twilight Zone revival called The Wunderkind.

[Blergh]

IMUO, Night Court had its moments and started out with great potential but it quickly devolved into a crass, nasty cartoon. My fave characters were the first two Older Woman Bailiffs played by Selma Diamond and Florence Halop (each playing characters with the performers' given names) and, yes, I was quite saddened by each of the performers' deaths (IIRC, there was a Very Special Episode dealing with Bull getting upset over Selma but all that was done for Florence was having a memorial shot at the end of her last taped episode with Mr. Anderson voicing over 'We're going to miss you, Florence!'). Roz ( Marsha Warfield) was okay but the best that can be said for her was that her character wasn't a deliberately annoying one unlike Dan or Christine's.  

    Oh, yes, Dan. The thing is that he started out as an interesting, multi-layered character  who somehow was likable despite the disparity between him being a prosecutor doing all he could to uphold the letter of the law but  it was implied ( note I said implied) that during his offtask life he had assignations with women who were earning their living doing what he prosecuted. OK, rather than let the audience have to ponder how a proper professional could behave differently off the clock, they quickly turned him into a walking cartoon who was openly perverted and blatantly unprofessional even when supposedly needing to carry out his duties. Alas, I know that this is not an entirely fictional phenom but that doesn't mean that this was entertaining to me. Oh, and they turned him into a snotty,bullying sadist to a masochistic homeless person named Phil. BOO! How Mr.  Larroquette was considered worthy of Emmy noms much less won them after the first year of this character losing all its subtlety, I'll never understand.

Christine simply was too grating and annoying to be sympathetic despite the fact that she supposedly was  the counterpoint (as the straight woman defender) to the pompous foil Dan. Ironically, I liked Markie Post better when she starred with John Ritter in Hearts Afire than I did here- but I can't say I have any real interest in seeing her back in a series again (and  I was rather infuriated with her jumping on the bed in the Lincoln Bedroom like she was a junior high schooler at a slumber party instead of behaving as  a mature adult and a grateful guest venerating a part of our nation's heritage ).

Oh, and I can't forget Harry. Yes, the idea of a zany goofball being able to make sober decisions as a judge was also a bit intriguing but, alas they soon turned him a total clown as well.  Thankfully, the late Mr. Anderson got to show some comedic subtlety on Dave's World so future viewers will be able to see that instead of solely this show.

 

Yeah, I wish they'd ended it a LOT earlier and had let it live up to its potential instead of turning it into what they did so quickly! 

[Katy M]

I agree about Dan, and I guess Christine, also.  I haven't seen the show in eons and haven't given it much thought.  But, I loved Bull, and Mac was OK, too, but not really a standout.

[Was-MArsenault]

21 hours ago, Blergh said:

IMUO, Night Court had its moments and started out with great potential but it quickly devolved into a crass, nasty cartoon. My fave characters were the first two Older Woman Bailiffs played by Selma Diamond and Florence Halop (each playing characters with the performers' given names) and, yes, I was quite saddened by each of the performers' deaths (IIRC, there was a Very Special Episode dealing with Bull getting upset over Selma but all that was done for Florence was having a memorial shot at the end of her last taped episode with Mr. Anderson voicing over 'We're going to miss you, Florence!'). Roz ( Marsha Warfield) was okay but the best that can be said for her was that her character wasn't a deliberately annoying one unlike Dan or Christine's.  

    Oh, yes, Dan. The thing is that he started out as an interesting, multi-layered character  who somehow was likable despite the disparity between him being a prosecutor doing all he could to uphold the letter of the law but  it was implied ( note I said implied) that during his offtask life he had assignations with women who were earning their living doing what he prosecuted. OK, rather than let the audience have to ponder how a proper professional could behave differently off the clock, they quickly turned him into a walking cartoon who was openly perverted and blatantly unprofessional even when supposedly needing to carry out his duties. Alas, I know that this is not an entirely fictional phenom but that doesn't mean that this was entertaining to me. Oh, and they turned him into a snotty,bullying sadist to a masochistic homeless person named Phil. BOO! How Mr.  Larroquette was considered worthy of Emmy noms much less won them after the first year of this character losing all its subtlety, I'll never understand.

Christine simply was too grating and annoying to be sympathetic despite the fact that she supposedly was  the counterpoint (as the straight woman defender) to the pompous foil Dan. Ironically, I liked Markie Post better when she starred with John Ritter in Hearts Afire than I did here- but I can't say I have any real interest in seeing her back in a series again (and  I was rather infuriated with her jumping on the bed in the Lincoln Bedroom like she was a junior high schooler at a slumber party instead of behaving as  a mature adult and a grateful guest venerating a part of our nation's heritage ).

Oh, and I can't forget Harry. Yes, the idea of a zany goofball being able to make sober decisions as a judge was also a bit intriguing but, alas they soon turned him a total clown as well.  Thankfully, the late Mr. Anderson got to show some comedic subtlety on Dave's World so future viewers will be able to see that instead of solely this show.

 

Yeah, I wish they'd ended it a LOT earlier and had let it live up to its potential instead of turning it into what they did so quickly! 

I still miss Harry too, and he was a really funny guy.

[DrSpaceman73]

On ‎1‎/‎26‎/‎2020 at 10:35 AM, Blergh said:

IMUO, Night Court had its moments and started out with great potential but it quickly devolved into a crass, nasty cartoon. My fave characters were the first two Older Woman Bailiffs played by Selma Diamond and Florence Halop (each playing characters with the performers' given names) and, yes, I was quite saddened by each of the performers' deaths (IIRC, there was a Very Special Episode dealing with Bull getting upset over Selma but all that was done for Florence was having a memorial shot at the end of her last taped episode with Mr. Anderson voicing over 'We're going to miss you, Florence!'). Roz ( Marsha Warfield) was okay but the best that can be said for her was that her character wasn't a deliberately annoying one unlike Dan or Christine's.  

    Oh, yes, Dan. The thing is that he started out as an interesting, multi-layered character  who somehow was likable despite the disparity between him being a prosecutor doing all he could to uphold the letter of the law but  it was implied ( note I said implied) that during his offtask life he had assignations with women who were earning their living doing what he prosecuted. OK, rather than let the audience have to ponder how a proper professional could behave differently off the clock, they quickly turned him into a walking cartoon who was openly perverted and blatantly unprofessional even when supposedly needing to carry out his duties. Alas, I know that this is not an entirely fictional phenom but that doesn't mean that this was entertaining to me. Oh, and they turned him into a snotty,bullying sadist to a masochistic homeless person named Phil. BOO! How Mr.  Larroquette was considered worthy of Emmy noms much less won them after the first year of this character losing all its subtlety, I'll never understand.

Christine simply was too grating and annoying to be sympathetic despite the fact that she supposedly was  the counterpoint (as the straight woman defender) to the pompous foil Dan. Ironically, I liked Markie Post better when she starred with John Ritter in Hearts Afire than I did here- but I can't say I have any real interest in seeing her back in a series again (and  I was rather infuriated with her jumping on the bed in the Lincoln Bedroom like she was a junior high schooler at a slumber party instead of behaving as  a mature adult and a grateful guest venerating a part of our nation's heritage ).

Oh, and I can't forget Harry. Yes, the idea of a zany goofball being able to make sober decisions as a judge was also a bit intriguing but, alas they soon turned him a total clown as well.  Thankfully, the late Mr. Anderson got to show some comedic subtlety on Dave's World so future viewers will be able to see that instead of solely this show.

 

Yeah, I wish they'd ended it a LOT earlier and had let it live up to its potential instead of turning it into what they did so quickly! 

I haven't seen the show in years but I don't recall Dan on Night Court hiring prostitutes for himself, if that is what you are saying.  He just slept around a lot like a manwhore. 

But maybe I just don't recall all the details of the show.  Literally has been 30 years since I have seen any episodes. 

[Wiendish Fitch]

Massive UO regarding Fresh Prince of Bel Air:

I never hated the second Aunt Viv.

Nope, never. Maybe OG Aunt Viv was a bit tougher and cooler, but Aunt Viv 2.0 never bothered me, not even a little, and I think Daphne Maxwell Reid played the part as well as one could.

[FormerMod-a1]

Aunt Viv 2.0 didn't bother me either.  I liked her fine.  But she didn't act at all like the orig.  It was almost like a different character.  Maybe it was the writing, too. So I can see why it bothered some.  Also, wasn't there some controversy about how the original was let go.  

[Katy M]

Big-time UO that I am going to get boulders, not even rocks but boulders, thrown a me.

I didn't like Corey and Topanga as a couple.  I thought they were too overly intense, especially in high school.  And, since Corey thought Topanga was weird in the first season, I hated the fact that later they acted like they had been together since kindergarten and even had that flashback with Corey introducing her to Shawn as "the wife."  

Also, I liked both Morgans.  

[Wiendish Fitch]

Just now, aquarian1 said:

Aunt Viv 2.0 didn't bother me either.  I liked her fine.  But she didn't act at all like the orig.  It was almost like a different character.  Maybe it was the writing, too. So I can see why it bothered some.  Also, wasn't there some controversy about how the original was let go.