S31.E14: Lie, Cheat, And Steal / S31.E15: Live Reunion

[Oscirus]

I'm almost certain she would've gotten Spencer's

[Straycat80]

Congrats Jeremy! I really loved this season. Best season in a long time. I can't wait until it comes back next year.

Edited December 17, 2015 by Straycat80

[Ms Blue Jay]

Yeah, I thought Mike got ignored last season thanks to the He-Man Woman Haters and the second chance vote cutting into the reunion.  But Jeremy's barely been acknowledged.

 

LOL you have a name for that tribe hahahahahhahahahahahah

[Bryce Lynch]

Abi with a stunning spasm of self awareness!

[innocuouspuff]

Add Kelley and Ciera and that should be everybody. Well unless survivor has a winner's season

We've got Kelley twice and Joe not all, so correct that oversight and I agree! Though Jeremy may be one of the winners with no desire to play again, I think.

Edited December 17, 2015 by innocuouspuff

[LadyChatts]

LOL you have a name for that tribe hahahahahhahahahahahah

 

Well they were!  Glad Jeff gave a plug for organ donation.  

 

I half expected him to pull out a donation for Terry's family.

Edited December 17, 2015 by LadyChatts

[Daisy]

Whether it was a good move or not it was not "bullying". I hate they way that word is misused and overused.

What next, is an alliance of 5 going to be labeled "bullies" for voting out the other 4.

 

 

We'll have to agree to disagree.

I know the way Spencer did it felt like bullying to me. Yes Spencer is trying to save his alliance but it came out completely yuck.

 

[LanceM]

On a totally shallow note and I am sure we won't hear her speak but Monica looks absolutely stunning in the back row.

[LadyChatts]

We'll have to agree to disagree.

I know the way Spencer did it felt like bullying to me. Yes Spencer is trying to save his alliance but it came out completely yuck.

 

 

Jeremy let Spencer dig that hole for himself.  He knew he now had a legitimate out to vote Kelley out (even though I believe he planned to all along) but that could have been his defense.  Spencer obviously got too big for his britches and really believed he was going to win, or that that moment was going to come back and bite him.  What did he say, he knew after the last TC he had no chance of winning?  Or was it when he was watching at home?

[dizzyd]

Yvette Nicole Brown is a fan of a lot of shows.  I wish they would do a celebrity Survivor, once at least.

[LadyChatts]

Okay did Jeff say next season they were doing something different?

[LanceM]

It was nice of Jeff to talk to Terry's son and wife but could he have atleast acknowleged Terry's daughter who was you know sitting right there too.

[wallflower75]

Urgh...I'm really frustrated.  There are so many different stories that could use some attention--like what was Wiglesworth's number (my mother theorized it was 1, for there being only one winner), Kass and Shirin have hardly opened their mouths at all...wait, maybe that's not a bad thing...

[Daisy]

Jeremy let Spencer dig that hole for himself.  He knew he now had a legitimate out to vote Kelley out (even though I believe he planned to all along) but that could have been his defense.  Spencer obviously got too big for his britches and really believed he was going to win, or that that moment was going to come back and bite him.  What did he say, he knew after the last TC he had no chance of winning?  Or was it when he was watching at home?

 

He said he stopped watching at home. 

But I think Spencer knew that at that moment whatever chance he had had to be gone. like. EVERYONE in the Jury was all like :o about it, and Andrew even commented on it - that's not something you do in front of the Jury.

 

and my thing would be. If Spencer didn't have immunity and it had been Keith or someone would he have been that up front of it, or would he have been more smooth talky about it. I say more smooth talky. 

[ratherbereading]

I can't stand Probst but I have to give him mad love for bringing up organ donation.

It is super important. My sister is the recipient of a donor kidney.

The lives you save by being an organ donor are someone's loved ones. And may go on to do exceptional things.

[truthaboutluv]

Whether it was a good move or not it was not "bullying". I hate they way that word is misused and overused.

What next, is an alliance of 5 going to be labeled "bullies" for voting out the other 4.

 

I think the bullying comments came from how aggressively Spencer made his case, particularly the Final 4 vote where he basically all but threatened Jeremy that if he didn't take him to the end and brought Wentworth instead, he'd do everything in his power to make sure she won. Spencer played that VERY badly and I think he realized it afterwards.

 

He let himself get scared and just over-sold his argument when all he had to do was say all the ways Kelly was a strong threat and dangerous to bring to the end and be done with it. For the record, I disagree that he was a bully but yeah I think that's what the jury was talking about and it was less about him voting someone out because they all they did. 

[LadyChatts]

Thirty second season that was supposed to be the thirty first.

 

So they are doing brains/brawn/beauty again?  Yeah, don't they realize a theme doesn't usually work the second time as well as the first.  

 

So next season.  Survivor: The medevacs. 

[mojoween]

OH my god no way is that Beast Mode? I cannot WAIT until February!

[Daisy]

Brain/Brawn/Beauty again?
also. Show - wow. usually when they show all the shock and drama, it's generally not a good season.

 

Am nervous.

[liqidclark]

So next season's gameplay is so boring that all you can tease is lots of injuries, Probst? Okay, got it.

[LadyChatts]

Brain/Brawn/Beauty again?

also. Show - wow. usually when they show all the shock and drama, it's generally not a good season.

 

Am nervous.

 

Yep.  I half worried that season tanked, which is why they did this one first instead of pushing it back to the spring.  After the disaster that was World's Apart I don't think they would want two horrible seasons back to back.  WA was one of a kind bad.

[irisheyes]

They really aren't going to quit until they succeed in killing someone, right?

[Ms Blue Jay]

Fucking Jeff.

 

Edit:  It's because nobody ever addressed Jeremy and how masterful of a game he played.  Spencer kind of touched on it, Jeremy KIND OF touched on it when Stephen talked about how obsessed he is with Joe, but I wanted it explicitly stated dammit.

 

Whatever, my man won and I'm getting greedy .  Sorry y'all!

 

Jeremy absolutely made the right decision in picking Spencer over Kelley.  Kelley was his biggest threat all along.  (I swear, not just hindsight.  I was taking notes through the whole thing.)  This whole game was Kelley versus Jeremy and I've been saying that for weeks ever since J&K started finding idols!!!!!   See the Winner's Edit thread. So glad the jury heartily agreed with me.  They're smarter than they let on.

Edited December 17, 2015 by Ms Blue Jay

[Bryce Lynch]

Looks like we are going to have some very annoying and arrogant castaways next season.

[LadyChatts]

There's the plug for Terry's family!  All donations from the auction go to the Danny Strong Foundation at Boston Children's Hospital.

 

Great season, kind of crappy reunion.

[jsm1125]

Were Kass and Wigglesworth the only jury members ignored at the reunion?

[Daisy]

Ladies and Gentlemen. 

it was a pleasure watching this amazing season with you, and live chatting with you tonight. 
 

I <3 you guys.

[LadyChatts]

Were Kass and Wigglesworth the only jury members ignored at the reunion?

 

I was shocked Kass was.  Really, this reunion did not go how I expected it to.  I figured Wigles would be ignored, but I thought Jeff would at least acknowledge her of all people.

[Daisy]

Were Kass and Wigglesworth the only jury members ignored at the reunion?

 

Shirin and Monica too.

[LadyChatts]

Ladies and Gentlemen. 

it was a pleasure watching this amazing season with you, and live chatting with you tonight. 

 

I <3 you guys.

 

Same here!  I think I may need this forum more than ever next season.  This season left it with big shoes to fill.

[RedheadZombie]

Am I the only one who doesn't think Joe's all that?  I can't see anyone past Jeremy.  That beautiful body, beautiful smile, cries about his wife, and willing to die to save me when my house is on fire.  I bet you Jeremy's the type who grabs my dog and drags her out, and then gives her oxygen to revive her.

[SnideAsides]

So next season's gameplay is so boring that all you can tease is lots of injuries, Probst? Okay, got it.

I for one would be shocked if this turns out to be the case with someone from a season as dynamic as Big Brother 16 apparently in the ca... no, I wouldn't, actually.

[Ms Blue Jay]

Were Kass and Wigglesworth the only jury members ignored at the reunion?

 

You forgot Jeremy and Woo.  I know this because I like them.  Don't really care about the rest.  

 

Redhead, my lust is already ramped up to 100% dammit!

 

like what was Wiglesworth's number

 

Jeremy:  "2"

Tasha:  "3"

Spencer:  "4"

 

Tasha and Spencer basically admitting they follow Jeremy and are his zombies ; )

 

 

 

The way Jeremy said "she hurt my feelings" was adorable. I'm sure that's not what he was going for, but here we are.

 

He is a woman's man, in a man's man's body.  I'm getting really gushy now

Edited December 17, 2015 by Ms Blue Jay

[Bryce Lynch]

I was shocked Kass was. Really, this reunion did not go how I expected it to. I figured Wigles would be ignored, but I thought Jeff would at least acknowledge her of all people.

Speaking of Wigglesworth did she really vote based on a random number between 1 and 10? If so she is a jackass.

Spencer, Jeremy and Tasha should have all chosen the same number.

Edited December 17, 2015 by Bryce Lynch

[Lantern7]

While I don't know if I'd dub it a "classic," but S31 was memorable. Jeremy got all ten votes and won for his family. Kelly channeled Greg Buis. And the Blue Fairy made Spencer a real live boy! Oh, and only six players got the cold shoulder from Probst: Kass, Shirin, Monica, Kelly, Peih-Gee and Woo. That's below the over/under of 10.5 I set in the Speculation thread. Way to surprise me, Probst!

 

Next season looks nuts. I wouldn't have been surprised had somebody from S32 stormed the stage. "I WON! I SHOULD GET MY MONEY NOW! I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT FIVE MORE FUCKING MONTHS TO GET IT!!!"

[truthaboutluv]

Am I the only one who doesn't think Joe's all that?

 

He's good looking and I can respect his strength in challenges but I've always been more attracted to the quirky and slightly awkward myself, so I'd probably be more attracted to someone like Spencer. But yeah the Joe anointing is a bit much since he's really never done anything that special in either of his seasons in my opinion.

 

Even his challenge abilities, okay he won a few but he couldn't immunity win his way to the end like Mike did last season. And Joe won what, three individual immunity challenges was it? I think that's how many Spencer won this season and Wentworth won two. So yeah I do think the exultation of him is a bit much.

 

By the way, I'm not sure the bullying the jury was referring to about Spencer included the tribal council where Kimmi left. Kimmi may have felt that way but as Savage noted in his question, Jeremy is the one who skipped to the voting area, made remarks to Kimmi after he realized she voted for him, called her out aggressively, etc. 

Edited December 17, 2015 by truthaboutluv

[Oscirus]

I for one would be shocked if this turns out to be the case with someone from a season as dynamic as Big Brother 16 apparently in the ca... no, I wouldn't, actually.

Speaking of which do they have specialists on hand in case said stalker falls in love out there in the jungle.  Might want to keep them close by.

[Daisy]

Same here!  I think I may need this forum more than ever next season.  This season left it with big shoes to fill.

 

i agree. "Gimmicky seasons" (well i like. I like some like the idea of One World, and the FIRST Fans v. Favourites) leave me nervous. And I've watched enough now that when Jeff has to push something - it means the season is going to be a struggle to enjoy. The fact that Jeff showed like every single injury that next season is going to have + the knowledge that this was flipped with Second Chances, really makes you wonder 

A: if this is a douchetastic season (for whatever reason, sexism/racisim/Russelism)

B: it's just BORING

or C: it's just a dude. (like your Nicaragua, or basically any other season that follows up after an amazing season). it always feels that after the first 10 seasons (even AS) - they never can have. two or three seasons that is BAM! amazing. BAM! more amazing BAM! more amazing again. (and I am actually wondering if this is why they've done more and more returning members, to try to keep the momentum)

 

though i would suggest if they would stop gimmicking (and casting for looks, characters) the amazing will come on its own imo. 

[Eolivet]

Beast Mode Cowboy!!! Suck it, Derrick!!! [/random Big Brother moment]

 

I said at the beginning that perhaps this season was about how you can't be anyone but your authentic self, and there's no such thing as "changing" who you are. I actually think that proved true tonight: Jeremy was a family man, which got him voted out in his first season (among other things), but won this season. Spencer tried as hard as he could to prove that he had a better social game, but I would argue it was his lack of social game that once again did him in (per the jury). Tasha said she was going to play "dirty" this year and played the same sort of low-impact, unmemorable game she seemed to play in her first season. You can't ever be anybody but yourself. Second chances are not first impressions.

 

Thank you to this cast for a memorable season -- now please go back to your normal lives, I never want to see any of you again.

 

See you all in February! (I can't get over it...Beast Mode! Suck it, Cody! Suck it, Frankie! Whee!!!)

[LanceM]

The season was flipped when they decided to do second chances. Once the viewers decided who was going to be on the next season they kind of had to show it first.

[Wandering Snark]

Dat good ol' "B-Smoke Cowboy" is back, on Survivor with a big BMC belt buckle... I hope he judy chops Probst. Heh.

 

Also a record low number of people talked to/topics covered tonight, no?

Edited December 17, 2015 by Wandering Snark

[Skeeter22]

Woo has more final tribal votes than Spencer. Ha!

[Callaphera]

I'm in next year for Beast Mode Cowboy (loved the BMC belt buckle). I can't wait until the Tall Tales start showing up. Let's just hope he's not attracted to any of the women on his tribe. And that there's no pickles and bananas near by if he is.

[Paws]

I am SO happy Jeremy won. I have t been this happy about a winner in a long time. Although to be fair in Jeremy's first. season I was happy that Nat won. The last few seasons have otherwise had deserving winners but nobody I really liked. Jeremy just seems awesome and it seemed like everyone adored him out there.

[SnideAsides]

While I don't know if I'd dub it a "classic," but S31 was memorable. Jeremy got all ten votes and won for his family. Kelly channeled Greg Buis. And the Blue Fairy made Spencer a real live boy! Oh, and only six players got the cold shoulder from Probst: Kass, Shirin, Monica, Kelly, Peih-Gee and Woo. That's below the over/under of 10.5 I set in the Speculation thread. Way to surprise me, Probst!

Still: 5/10 women, and all three Asian players. That part isn't so surprising.

[LadyChatts]

Did Probst even take any questions from twitter?

[breezy424]

Sorry if it's been brought up earlier in the thread.....Did I miss it or was there no fan favorite this season for $100,000?  Or did they stop doing that?

[thejuicer]

The scene of Jeremy trying to get Keith's attention is probably one of my favorite Survivor scenes of all time.  Gotta love Keith. He seems like a good, honest man and I think he did very well.

 

Kimmi way overplayed and far too late in the game. It was never going to work out well for her but probably the first time she's done anything interesting in the game.

 

I don't think Spencer was a bully at the TC with Kimmi, but I do think he was too brazen. The thought of drawing rocks is a lot less scary when you have a large red velvet and gold necklace around your neck.  I thought the TC with Kelley was his "give this everything I have" attempt to save his own life. No it wasn't pretty but I think his paranoia drove him to make that asinine speech. Hey Spencer, you don't have THAT much pull on anyone. Just saying.

 

Loved Jeremy's win. He played an almost perfect game.  I thought the way he handled Kimmi's jury question was prefect - she tried to pin it on him for choosing Spencer over her, then he turned it around on her and explained how much she hurt him by writing his name down. Which is exactly true, so Kimmi kinda sucks.

 

I fast forwarded the entire reunion part dedicated to Joe. He really does nothing for me, oh no Jeff is there something wrong with me? *eye roll*

 

Overall very satisfying season after the shitshow that was last season.

[Lantern7]

Wait . . . one of the S32 featured comes from Big Brother? Ugh. I don't watch that show, but they keep popping up on Survivor and TAR.

 

SnideAsides . ..  wow. That's depressing. However, something tells me the Asian dude from S32 is going to get a lot of screen time.

[jsm1125]

Sorry if it's been brought up earlier in the thread.....Did I miss it or was there no fan favorite this season for $100,000?  Or did they stop doing that?

I think they stopped doing that after Caramoan, when Sprint stopped being a sponsor.