S03.E10: What Took You So Long?

[Uncle Benzene]

Leon is shown opening the oven when he's baking french fries.

 

Oy vey. Ore-Ida, no doubt. This guy. I swear, this fuckin' guy.

 

How much you wanna bet the oven was smoky because he just stuck the frozen "fries" in there without even going to the trouble of preheating? Hell, he probably took them right out of the freezer, sprayed them down with (way too much) Pam cooking spray, and stuck them in a cold oven with burners blazing at 500+ during preheat. 

 

Nice job, "chef."

[leighroda]

Ummm, those were pommes des frites that he made, not lowly French fries. Ugh, how do they not understand fine cuisine!?

(Heavy sarcasm intended)

Edited October 29, 2015 by leighroda

[RedHawk]

I hope we get to see Kate telling Ben about Leon's "sous chef, Betty Crocker". I can hear Ben's marvelous laugh now!

[Eater of Worlds]

Those girls better have clean rooms because daddy is a stickler for cleanliness and he likes making girls cry.

 

 

edited to add: ....except when it comes to ovens.

 

What did Leon say to the girls when he called them?

[ivygirl]

From your keyboard to God's ears.  More Rock of Love please!  I'd even settle for some Daisy of Love, but please no Rocky of Love.  Although, the lunatics they try to set her up with might be amusing, I don't think the validation of getting her own show would be a nice look on her.

I picture her during the "rose ceremony." She's talking through the eliminations, staring at the ceiling and all the guys are like, "Is she talking to me? Who's she talking to up there? Did I just get eliminated?"

[leighroda]

I picture her during the "rose ceremony." She's talking through the eliminations, staring at the ceiling and all the guys are like, "Is she talking to me? Who's she talking to up there? Did I just get eliminated?"

Cue her belting out a Broadway style song

[kassa]

What that tells me is that Rocky just removed the potatoes, then she either just left the carbon bubbles and any other fluids on the oven floor, or she just broke up the carbon bubbles and brushed them out but DID NOT ACTUALLY CLEAN THE OVEN.

 

 

You can see when the oven is open and the fire is blazing away, that there are two tall lumps of carbon on the oven floor.  They were oval in shape and maybe an inch high -- did not look like any solid object, but rather an accumulation of char building up over a period of time.  Though how you'd manage to spill in the same two spots repeatedly, I don't know.  (And technically speaking, they didn't seem to be flaming -- the fire was BEHIND them, toward the back of the oven)

 

The clean pans may have disguised them from Kate when she put the pizza in.  

 

Add me to those who can't comprehend that anybody over the age of 10 doesn't understand the physics of oxygen and fire.  Especially professionals on a boat.  If you have a fire in a contained place -- keep the door shut!  If a pot or pan is on fire, throw a lid on it!  You may have to do more than that, but those are first steps!

Edited October 29, 2015 by kassa

[sasha206]

So are we really to believe that Rocky went to culinary school? 

[Eater of Worlds]

So are we really to believe that Rocky went to culinary school? 

 

I looked at the school.  It's a real school that apparently produces good cooks.  Several famous chefs support it.  It is a 7-12 month program, depending on if you go all day during the day or if you take weekend or evening classes and it costs 40k.

  

Fourty freaking thousand dollars and she still can't cook.

[Diane Mars]

A repost :)

A printscreen of the oven before the fire :

 

;) Edited October 29, 2015 by Diane Mars

[sasha206]

I looked at the school.  It's a real school that apparently produces good cooks.  Several famous chefs support it.  It is a 7-12 month program, depending on if you go all day during the day or if you take weekend or evening classes and it costs 40k.

  

Fourty freaking thousand dollars and she still can't cook.

 

I mean, did she REALLY go to that school?  Or is she talking out of her ass.  The one we always seem to have to see.

[Trooper York]

Can we take up a collection to send Rocky to obedience school?

 

I hear they do great work with bi-polar poodles.

[HumblePi]

That oven would be a disgrace for any chef. Rule #1 in using an oven is to make certain there's no buildup of grease on the bottom. Watching Leon scraping the bottom of the oven with what looked like a putty knife, I could see there was a thick heavy layer of old grease there. The puffy carbon particles were only hiding what was underneath and caused that blaze. He hastily went to clean it before his statement was made to Captain Lee. Ovens have been known to catch fire even in the self-clean mode if there's enough sticky grease laying on the bottom.

 

Leon's duties in addition to preparing 3 meals a day for guests is to keep supplies stocked and keep the kitchen clean and sanitary. What did Leon do with his time in between meal preparation?

Edited October 29, 2015 by HumblePi

[Kiss my mutt]

Is Rocky related to Gary Busey? That girl is incoherent and insane.

[HumblePi]

You can see when the oven is open and the fire is blazing away, that there are two tall lumps of carbon on the oven floor.  They were oval in shape and maybe an inch high -- did not look like any solid object, but rather an accumulation of char building up over a period of time.  Though how you'd manage to spill in the same two spots repeatedly, I don't know.  (And technically speaking, they didn't seem to be flaming -- the fire was BEHIND them, toward the back of the oven)

 

The clean pans may have disguised them from Kate when she put the pizza in.  

 

Add me to those who can't comprehend that anybody over the age of 10 doesn't understand the physics of oxygen and fire.  Especially professionals on a boat.  If you have a fire in a contained place -- keep the door shut!  If a pot or pan is on fire, throw a lid on it!  You may have to do more than that, but those are first steps!

I'd bet that Leon put the two clean pans on the bottom rack specifically to disguise the dirty oven bottom. Who stores clean pans in the bottom of their oven, what's the reason other than a lack of space and I don't believe that was Leon's reason.

[BodhiGurl]

Rewatching.... Lmao that Rocky referred to herself as a "chef"... Raw baked chicken... Oreos on a "salad"... Grenadine on oysters.... Can't even monitor popcorn in a microwave? Thinks dry trays caused a fire? Dying.... Ha ha ha ha....

PS crazytown, Captain fired douchnozzle Leon bcauz of his douchnozzle attitude, not the fire. She's such an arse... Good gawd why wasn't she fired? No really? I wouldn't say she makes "good tv", so, yah, I'm at a loss.

[Mpres22]

I'm fairly convinced that aside from maybe the snob who wanted/knew what wines to pair with each course, none of these rich people truly have an elevated or sophisticated palate. They all act like every meal was one sent from heaven and none like they've ever tasted before.  I'm sure Ben is capable of creating some masterpieces, and I do think Leon has knocked it out of the ballpark a few times when he gave enough of a damn to actually step up to the plate, but this show leaves me of the mindset that money doesn't buy you taste (pun intended).  Case in point - you can't honestly tell me that what Rocky cooked was anywhere near something as good as Ben or Leon's dishes and yet this last set of charter guests praised everything she made.  Yeah, okay.

 

I know Connie has dentures, but for some reason, I was fixated on looking at them during this episode.  I have to say that I'm rather impressed at how "average" looking they are and not like big, blindingly white porcelain veneers; they don't look perfect like how I expect dentures to look at all.  Had she never brought up the fact that she has dentures, I never in a million years would have guessed she had them.  (By the way, did she ever say why she has dentures?  Just curious because having them so young is rare, so it makes me wonder what happened to her real teeth.)

 

 

I honestly didn't catch much of season 1. Ben wasn't the chef then, too?

They aren't actually dentures. I have exactly the same issue, the same two permanent teeth never came in. They call it a "flipper" and it is like a retainer, molded to the roof of your mouth with the two fake teeth attached. I wore one for YEARS until I could afford implants. 

[Notmuchofacook]

Since dentures have become a topic, every time I see Captain Lee smile, I think he has full dentures. Anyone else? It's not a criticism, BTW, just an observation. Furthermore, Rocky is dangerous--too clingy, too crazy, too fickle, too much.

Good riddance, Leon. You're a real asshole. Kate has been professional throughout regardless of her RBF. Amy is a champ and Eddies been okay except for when he hooked up with Rocky. Love Connie, who is a real pro...she keeps her strange food/boob things to periods when guests are not aboard. Emile is young and isn't finished yet.

[LIGirl]

Thanks to all of you who cleared up my question about Connie's teeth.  (I could've sworn she pulled out full dentures earlier in the season when she spoke about them.)  No matter anyway. I never knew of anyone who didn't have certain teeth grow in.

[HunterHunted]

Is Rocky a kitten or a toddler? Are they waving a tennis ball or a toy over her head?

I find Emile's toadying hilarious given Rocky's frequent hooking up with Eddie. I don't know if he would have been so obsequious if he had known about that. Rocky is an immature fame whoring disaster of a human. She's delusional about her talent and adorableness. And anyone with any kind of palate and with any understanding of food knows that Oreos cannot substitute for cocoa nibs. Cocoa nibs are bitter, but have a fruity nuttiness. And anyone who has ever tasted cocoa nibs would never think of an Oreo. Rocky is a dilettante.

Leon was a douche.

[leighroda]

I really wish I could see the guests actual reaction to the Oreos. I also kinda want to have my friends come over for a fancy dinner party and serve them salad with Oreos, and then sit back and wait to see who had me committed to a psychiatric facility for thinking that is good idea first.

[rho]

Emile is young and isn't finished yet.

 

This is the best description of anyone. Ever.

[Petunia13]

I wonder how many people cleaned their stove after this episode?

Or put away that glass of milk they were planning to dunk their Oreo in, and grabbed some ranch dressing & a romaine leaf instead.

Rocky reminds me of that woman on Seinfeld who wore her bra as a shirt. Except its thong underwear she assumes is acceptable dress for public & tv. So far she's flashed the thong swimsuit bottoms or g string undies about 6 x.

[Rebecca]

I completely assume Rocky wasn't fired mostly because we haven't seen the shit storm of confrontation and everyone finding out about her hookups with Eddie. Think about it, if she had been kicked off never to return after her big dive there would be no upcoming drama with Eddie over their hookups or the inevitable 'scandal' when everyone finds out about it. No way would Bravo give that up. I'm certain Captain wanted to fire her.

[Eater of Worlds]

According to Capt Lee three people were fired during this trip.  Dane, Leon and...someone. This doesn't include Don who quit.  So I hope it's Rocky.

[biakbiak]

I know Amy hinted at it from both a friend and a friend with benefits way that maybe Kate wished she was still sharing the bigger cabin now that it was Ben not Leon but if I were Kate I would kick Eddie back to the smaller cabin.

[RedHawk]

Ben and Kate will probably bide their time until Eddie does anchor watch one night...

Edited October 30, 2015 by RedHawk

[biakbiak]

Oh I wasn't suggesting sex, she just gave up a much larger cabin (when Ben was looking at it there was also a large desk area) because she wanted to nor spend more time than necessary with Leon.

[RedHawk]

Eddie might be nice and offer to give Kate back the better cabin now that the repugnant Leon is gone, especially because he knows she and Ben have a thing going on, but I doubt Kate would ask him to change again. She and Eddie are peers and it would be rude and high-handed of her to "kick" him back to a lesser cabin.

[Bruinsfan]

Yeah, when Amy asked Kate if she wished she'd toughed it out with Leon to stay in the nice cabin for Ben's return, the tone of her "no" pretty clearly indicated she'd have rather slept on the ironing board in the laundry room than spend any more time in Leon's presence. She seems to get along fine with Connie, so that's probably not a living situation she's in a huge rush to get out of.

 

I don't actually find Eddie hooking up with Rocky objectionable even if it was forseeable as a trainwreck from the first text; they're both (technically) adults and he knew what she was like going in. I do think his distraction and grumpiness on the job as a result of all his girlfriend drama speaks badly of him, though. Connie and Emile aren't at fault for that seesaw, and shouldn't be left in the lurch or yelled at over minor job mistakes as a consequence of it.

[ryebread]

I think I'd prefer a bunk room over side-by-side beds in such close quarters.  Even though the side-by-side room seems nicer, it also seems somehow less private.  Just give me the top bunk and I'll make it my own little hidey hole.  The only thing that,s bad about the top bunk is the head room.  Not much!

[BogoGog24]

From what I remember Kate's reason for switching rooms, besides Leon, is that she prefers the bunks, so I don't think she'd want to switch back to the old room, even with Leon gone.

[OnceSane]

Plus, she and Ben hooked up in the past, they aren't currently banging…who says they want to go there again while on charter? Maybe they just enjoy flirting while on duty.

[biakbiak]

From what I remember Kate's reason for switching rooms, besides Leon, is that she prefers the bunks, so I don't think she'd want to switch back to the old room, even with Leon gone.

She didn't prefer bunks, she just didn't want to sleep in such close quarters with Leon. She realized it was her issue so she switched to smaller cabin.

Edited October 30, 2015 by biakbiak

[jaybird2]

oh! notmuchofacook,lol, i took a 'quick' glance at you name and almost spit out my diet coke.  i read it as 'notmuchofaCOCK!  

[BogoGog24]

She didn't prefer bunks, she just didn't want to sleep in such close quarters with Leon. She realized it was her issue so she switched to smaller cabin.

That isn't how I remember it. I distinctly remember her saying she didn't like the feeling of sleeping side by side and preferred the bunks. I think even if Leon weren't there she still wouldn't have liked the format of the room because she was so used to sleeping in a bunk.

[Notmuchofacook]

oh! notmuchofacook,lol, i took a 'quick' glance at you name and almost spit out my diet coke.  i read it as 'notmuchofaCOCK!

Well, then. That is very different. Never mind.

With this reality show, I totally get it. I can explain...when I first signed on to TWOP, I was watching cooking shows. Thus the name. I totally get your misread and it is hilarious.

[njbchlover]

That oven would be a disgrace for any chef. Rule #1 in using an oven is to make certain there's no buildup of grease on the bottom. Watching Leon scraping the bottom of the oven with what looked like a putty knife, I could see there was a thick heavy layer of old grease there. The puffy carbon particles were only hiding what was underneath and caused that blaze. He hastily went to clean it before his statement was made to Captain Lee. Ovens have been known to catch fire even in the self-clean mode if there's enough sticky grease laying on the bottom.

 

Leon's duties in addition to preparing 3 meals a day for guests is to keep supplies stocked and keep the kitchen clean and sanitary. What did Leon do with his time in between meal preparation?

 

Ummm....nap??  

[breezy424]

That isn't how I remember it. I distinctly remember her saying she didn't like the feeling of sleeping side by side and preferred the bunks. I think even if Leon weren't there she still wouldn't have liked the format of the room because she was so used to sleeping in a bunk.

That's how I remember it as well.  It was about privacy.  Totally get it.

[biakbiak]

That isn't how I remember it. I distinctly remember her saying she didn't like the feeling of sleeping side by side and preferred the bunks. I think even if Leon weren't there she still wouldn't have liked the format of the room because she was so used to sleeping in a bunk.

Kate made it clear that it wasn't not just sleeping across from Leon it was because she didn't like Leon. If she had been in that cabin with Eddie, Don, Amy, Rocky, or Ben she would have. Been fine.

[Kiss my mutt]

When did Ben and Kate hook up? Did Ben ever hook up with Kat or was that just rampant flirtation between them?

[HunterHunted]

I really feel like production must have stepped in with Rocky. There is no way that Captain Lee wouldn't have fired her after that dive over the side if he had the ability to. Who could feel comfortable continuing to captain your ship when you have an unstable crew member who might jump ship at the drop of hat? What if she had been injured in her petulant protest dive? Now Captain Lee has to deal with a rescue and getting her medical attention. There is something really wrong with Rocky. What's especially ridiculous about her is that immediately after finding that Leon was gone, Kate suggested that Rocky cook. But Rocky had to throw her tantrum and didn't realize that she'd been given an opportunity.

About Kate, I think she's a snob. I think her chief stew mentor probably came from an elitist and aloof school of how to stew. I think Kate thought that was the only way to do it. I think that's why she clashed with Amy last season because Amy had a warmer more down to earth style that Kate was unaccustomed to.

Leon never understood how different being a yacht chef is from being a restaurant chef. His food needed to be good, but no one books a charter just to eat Leon's food. So if if the guests want quesadillas and protein shakes, you give them what they want.

[Box305]

Emile's going to feel like a dummy after he finds out that Eddie and Rocky hooked up. I can't wait. 

[jaybird2]

hunterhunted, i maybe mistaken,  but i don't think kate suggested rocky cook.   i thought rocky just said that she, rocky. was going to cook because she is a CHEF!  i don't think kate didn't wanted her to but didn't say anything because kate didn't want to start a war.

 

does the above make any sense?  it's so convoluted.  

[HunterHunted]

hunterhunted, i maybe mistaken,  but i don't think kate suggested rocky cook.   i thought rocky just said that she, rocky. was going to cook because she is a CHEF!  i don't think kate didn't wanted her to but didn't say anything because kate didn't want to start a war.

 

does the above make any sense?  it's so convoluted.

I believe Kate said "what about Rocky?" to Captain Lee after Captain Lee said Leon was gone and they were without a chef. It was later when Rocky jumped ship and came back that Rocky offered to cook and then Kate said yes because they had no other options.

[HunterHunted]

Emile's going to feel like a dummy after he finds out that Eddie and Rocky hooked up. I can't wait.

I hope it's when the show aired so that it all comes spewing out during the reunion. It's just so funny to see him nipping at her heels when everyone around him is telling him that Rocky sucks and absolutely doesn't like him. I loved that he was gushing about Rocky's plating being food porn when everyone else thought it looked like shit.

[jaybird2]

ok hunterhunted.  isn't amazing two people can watch the same scene and come up with totally different takes s on that scene, lol!

[Bruinsfan]

I question whether Emile is smart enough to figure out how manipulative Rocky was toward him even if he sees it played out in front of him on TV like all of us did. He's lucky he's pretty.

[biakbiak]

He isn't that pretty.

[leighroda]

I really feel like production must have stepped in with Rocky. There is no way that Captain Lee wouldn't have fired her after that dive over the side if he had the ability to. Who could feel comfortable continuing to captain your ship when you have an unstable crew member who might jump ship at the drop of hat? What if she had been injured in her petulant protest dive? Now Captain Lee has to deal with a rescue and getting her medical attention. There is something really wrong with Rocky. What's especially ridiculous about her is that immediately after finding that Leon was gone, Kate suggested that Rocky cook. But Rocky had to throw her tantrum and didn't realize that she'd been given an opportunity.

About Kate, I think she's a snob. I think her chief stew mentor probably came from an elitist and aloof school of how to stew. I think Kate thought that was the only way to do it. I think that's why she clashed with Amy last season because Amy had a warmer more down to earth style that Kate was unaccustomed to.

Leon never understood how different being a yacht chef is from being a restaurant chef. His food needed to be good, but no one books a charter just to eat Leon's food. So if if the guests want quesadillas and protein shakes, you give them what they want.

I agree that if anyone had a choice Rocky would have been out, I think Kate said she was actually gone for 7-8 hours (I'm not positive that was true), but she popped back up in the end, put out that god awful Oreo salad and swooped in to collect her equal share of the tip. When the total charter was 2-3 days that's a pretty big chunk of time. Plus not only was she MIA, but the others had to compensate and work harder so ve she wasn't there, it's not like things could just not get done and just say "oh, that was Rocky's job"... I can't imaging that nobody would take issue with that. I know the captain has said everyone gets equal, so that's probably what is at play, but I would be furious.