S03.E10: What Took You So Long?

[OnceSane]

Captain Lee grills the crew as he tries to find out the cause of the galley fire and the inquiry leads to a contentious dismissal. In a fit of rebellion against Lee's decision, Rocky takes a dramatic, unauthorized dive off the boat leaving her crew-mates shorthanded and angry. With Captain Lee at his wit's end due to the ongoing chaos on the boat, his crew have to band together to create a special 50th birthday celebration for the charter guest, but an angry blow-up between Kate and Rocky could spoil the party. A familiar face stirs things up when he joins the boat.

[JoJoPowerRanger]

Slightly OT, but a tweet from Leon during the airing of this episode:  https://twitter.com/starchefleon/status/659178840871280640

 

 

 

The idiocy of these two, Rocky for blasting her contact info when she knows she's going to be on a reality show and Leon for reposting it now that the world knows how shitty they both are. 

[bosawks]

I can only assume that neither Rocky nor Leon actually want to be gainfully employed.

By anyone.

Ever.

[ivygirl]

The heck? How did Rocky get so attached to... Leon??? Really? You'd quit your job for him? Talk about hitching your wagon to a star. Or not.

Her "salad" reminded me of the stuff I created as a kid. And to think that she thinks she deserves applause at every turn is ridiculous.

Favorite lines...

Kate, on Rocky: "She forgot her mermaid tail."

Cap'n: "Bailin' my butt out of a hot one."

And now we know the truth(ish)! Ben wasn't available at the start of the season. Hence we had to suffer thru Leon. Makes me think the ejection was, shall we say, scheduled...

[Petunia13]

Ok so now the whole world knows Rocky's cell # and private e-mail.

Who wants to bet she gets a lot of sleezy voicemails and messages?

[Eater of Worlds]

Leon is pathetic.  Not only could he not back up his lie on Kate drinking, according to Kate's twitter he poured a jar of honey in her bed before he left

[ihartcoffee]

Wow, Rocky is such an ass.

Not gonna miss Leon.

[bosawks]

Ok so now the whole world knows Rocky's cell # and private e-mail.

Who wants to bet she gets a lot of sleezy voicemails and messages?

Probably not from Eddie.....

[AttackTurtle]

Eddie is still an asshat. He only turned on Leon when the Captain & chief engineer made it clear that it was a dirty oven that caused the fire. Emile's an idiot too for his blind support of both Rocky and Leon. Anyone notice that when Eddie started to give her the chill, all of a sudden she's buddies with Emile again? So glad that Leon is gone. Hopefully we can have the mermaid follow suit before the last charter.

Connie is the deck hand equivalent of Amy as a stew. Those two kick ass. That being said, I still love Kate and totally plan on stealing "unemploymentitis"

[RedHawk]

Hey, Leon, don't let a shark jump up and bite you on the ass as you leave! 

 

I had to give Rocky a 9.5 for her "exodus" dive off the boat. Yet I'm left wondering just what is her damage? Did she hit her head on the diving board (a few times) during her competition days?

 

The show was amusing as Amy, Kate, Eddie, and Connie tried time and again to salvage the "sweet" primary's birthday celebration. He did seem like a nice guy. That mess of a birthday cake was too funny, on top of everything else. Still far better than anything Rocky and her pastry chef Betty Crocker would have come up with. (Yes, I stole that from Kate.) Notice I don't give any kudos to Emile because he seemed mostly to be around to listen to Rocky bitch and moan. Ok, Rocky made the dinner, but seriously, I can't cook much at all and I could have made that meal, sans Oreos.

Edited October 28, 2015 by RedHawk

[ivygirl]

Poor Oreos. What did they do to anybody?

[leighroda]

I don't even know where to begin...

1) the tweet above, seriously you actual cell number!? I'm tempted to call it because you know Rocky is just crazy enough that she would answer and talk to me (while looking at her ceiling obviously).

2) it was a given that Leon was leaving, I was going to say this last week but I was afraid it would be considered a spoiler and I don't know how to spoiler tag, when they showed in the preview that Leon said Kate was drinking I knew he was lying partially because we already knew Ben was coming, and if Kate were actually drinking Ben would not be the one to replace her.

3) why the hell was Rocky so outraged about Leon leaving??? She reacted more than he did, and he was the one actually fired. Rocky was extremely lucky that at this point they could not necessarily afford to lose her because I have a feeling the capt would have booted her also.

4) speaking of the incident... How many times did Leon say there were clean dry pans in the oven!? I laughed when the capt pointed out clean dry pans don't start fires, and it's true. I hated how Rocky and Leon were trying so hard to throw Kate out. Especially for Leon to blatantly lie about Kate drinking. In the 2 seasons of Kate on the show, we have yet to see her drink more than a drink or 2 on their between charter dinners, and she certainly has never gotten drunk (well not excessively). Thankfully the capt saw right through that, but what if it got Kate fired? Is Leon and Rocky really ok with someone losing a job over a lie they told?

3) I also found it funny how butt hurt Rocky was that Eddie didn't take her side, and I think it's funny to see Eddie realize what a mistake he made... I will never look at him the same, but I'm glad he came out on the other side.

4) chef Rocky... Are you kidding me? When she said she was the only one who could save the dinner I about choked on my drink, I would have been better, and my culinary skills don't go much farther than Mac and cheese.

5) in the end Leon was the one that needed to go, was Kate an angel? No. But she at least tried to put her job before the pettiness on several occasions. I don't really like how Eddie said multiple time that it was simply because they couldn't replace her Kate but they could replace Leon, I don't really think that was a factor. I think Leon left because he was clearly the bigger problem. Like I said, they both were rude to each other, and Kate had a part in that, but at the end of the day Leon time and time again made it hard for everyone on board over his disdain for Kate. Kate made snide comments, but her actions never sabotaged anyone like Leon did a few times.

6) how did Leon sleep through the fire alarm!? From the looks of the layout it doesn't seem like Leon's room was too far from the galley, but I don't know. I dozed off when the last episode was on the other day and the alarm woke me up.

7) Kate and Ben... Seriously!??! When Ben said it I thought he was joking, but then a couple of other people including Kate essentially confirmed it. I never would have guessed that.

[rainsmom]

Rocky is a narciccist, plain and simple. She is absolutely CONVINCED the world revolves around her. I mean, HOW DARE Eddie have an opinion that differs from hers? I really wish Captain Lee had fired her ass. The remaining crew would have pulled it off.

 

Glad to see Ben.

[missy jo]

Best episode of Below Deck evah!!! Back later with more coherent thoughts.

[Petunia13]

Eddie got his sexual needs met and revenge on his gf now its not new or interesting anymore so he's starting to find fault in his Sidepiece. Also he's aware she's very spontaneous and emotion al and might react to being used and dismissed so he's openly disparaging and talking often to everyone about how crazy she is that way if she blabs her big mouth about their fling she'll have no credibility.

Classic and predictable move Edmeister.

[RedHawk]

It bugged me that Capt. Lee didn't make it clear to the staff that Leon got fired because leaving the oven bottom completely dirty caused the fire, not Kate leaving the pans inside. Also, he deserved to be fired for lying about Kate drinking. He said, "She was drinking" and then when Capt. Lee asked if he actually saw her, he had to shrug it off and admit he had not. What an asshole he proved himself to be! It bugged me even more that we didn't see Capt. Lee make it clear to LEON that he was getting fired for not being a team player, having a shitty attitude even after being warned, and then the fire and the lying.

 

There was really no "choice" to be made between firing Leon or firing Kate and somehow it was just easier to let Leon go because Kate had to manage two other stews. No way did Kate deserve to be fired, but Leon totally did. Kate deserved a bit of a stern talk from the captain about her role in egging Leon on, but ultimately she still did her job as well as she could in the circumstances, and Capt. Lee witnessed that. 

Edited October 28, 2015 by RedHawk

[SFoster21]

The Captain knew that Kate wasn't drinking because no other interviewee brought it up and because Leon had made a point of saying he, Leon, was not there. So, Leon could not have witnessed drinking, nor could drinking have been disguised when the Captain inspected the scene soon after the incident.

So, that was clearly a bald-faced lie that sprang instantly to Leon's lips; not the best thing for his inspirational daughters to see.

Edited October 28, 2015 by SFoster21

[njbchlover]

Probably not from Eddie.....

 

Ha-ha-ha....that made my spew my drink!!  :-)

[autumnh]

YAY1! Ben!!

[AttackTurtle]

I have loved this season. I don't know if it's simply because Real Housewives Of Orange County made my skin crawl with the cancer storyline or what, but this season has been my favorite for Below Deck by far.

Rocky is insane, but I still have hope that we are going to see her get the heave ho. Captain speaks to positively about Eddie in his blog today, for Eddie to be making an exit, but we know the drama is going to go down b/t Eddie and Rocky. The preview on Bravo for next week shows Connie pretty much saying what anyone watching the show is thinking.....Rocky is $&/?! Annoying.

Edited October 28, 2015 by AttackTurtle

[RedHawk]

YAY1! Ben!!

He really did come aboard like a fresh breeze. That galley needed a good airing. Too funny to see how he and Kate were already flirting as the episode ended. 

 

I did hope Rocky would just keep on swimming and quit her job just so the rest of the crew could have her share of the tip as well as Leon's. I wonder if her parents were stereotypical "helicopter" parents. She has called both her dad and her mom to whine and complain that she just.can't.take.it. anymore because everyone is being mean and not realizing how special and wonderful she is, especially for sticking to her principles and backing up a fellow employee who also fancied himself a special snowflake. Special snowflakes must stick together! UNION!

Edited October 28, 2015 by RedHawk

[movingtargetgal]

The Captain should have fired both Leon and Kate.  What experienced Chief Stewardess would not know the basics of handling an oven fire in the galley?  She and Rocky fanned the flames, left the oven open, did not attempt to put the fire out with an extinguisher, then ran out of the galley while radioing for help.  Did she even shut off the oven?  Kate had just burned the popcorn in the microwave and I think most of the smoke from the oven fire was from that.  Kate should know how to deal with this kind of emergency.   

[BogoGog24]

I swear during one of Rocky's talking heads tonight she looked at the camera for about 2 seconds for the first time ever. If only she had just kept swimming and never looked back.

Feel sorry for that poor guest who threw up from her disgusting cooking. And on his birthday!

Bye Leon, don't let the door hit you on your beef cheeks.

This is my first full season watching so Ben is not uber familiar to me but at this point I don't care who they get to replace Leon. Watching Ben in there was like a breath of fresh air. Too bad they start fighting again next week.

Aside from Connie's strange obsession with covering her boobs in random condiments, she is an awesome deckhand and Amy continues to be a rockstar. Emile is dumb, but I think he's mostly pretty inoffensive, just a little dumb and naive. Eddie is beginning to redeem himself by realizing his mistake with Rocky Road and cooking the steaks for the guests.

I was so pissed to see Rocky Road get the same tip as the others. She wasn't there for half the charter because she jumped ship, then Eddie cooked half her dinner for her after she made the primary blow chunks. What did she do to earn a nearly $2,000 tip? I'd have been so pissed if I was any of the others. I know they usually all share the tip but an exception should have been made in that case.

[njbchlover]

Epic episode on Eros!!!   

 

Wow....I guess it shouldn't be a surprise that Leon continued with his arrogance regarding the fire, not even once realizing that the fire could have put everyone on the boat in jeopardy (not to mention the damage to the boat itself)!!!  Interesting little snip of film showing Leon cleaning the floor of the oven, not anything else.  He continued with his arrogance, thinking he could throw blame on Kate by telling Captain Lee that she had been drinking.  Seriously???  

 

I really wish they could have captioned all of Leon's conversation - I could not understand quite a bit of what he was saying.  He really looked like he didn't give a beef cheek or squid ink smear that he was being fired.  Totally lost out on that last tip, too....what an asshole-y douche!!   I'm glad he's gone, but who we will snark on now?   LOL

 

I guess it will be Rocky - Didn't you know she went to culinary school, so, y'know, she's a "chef"??  Wonder what school that was?  Grenadine on oysters??  Oreos on a salad?  With filet mignon?  I have a strong feeling that cocoa nibs (which she claimed she has used before) are a whoooolllle lot different that crumbled oreos.  I looked them up and found this:  http://sweets.seriouseats.com/2010/06/what-to-do-with-cocoa-nibs-recipes-chocolate.html.  

The article talks about using them in both sweet and savory ways, but NOT the way Rocky did with the Oreo crumbles.  Plus, if she was such a "chef", she should know the difference between cocoa in it's almost purest form and processed, manufactured cookies.

 

And, jumping off the ship - for what means?  In protest?  In frustration?  In the way that she needed to show her ass again because it's been a week since we've seen it? 

 

Holy crap - her poor parents raised a narcissitic, needy little brat, didn't they?  God help them - I hope their other three daughters aren't quite as needy.  As disappointed as I was with Eddie, glad to see he's come to his senses, at least where Rocky is concerned, but, then, he's back to texting his at home g.f., saying he misses her.  

 

I don't know, there's something about Eddie this season that is turning me off from him.  He does seem a little like he's kissing up to Captain Lee - he will agree with whatever Captain Lee says because it will hopefully, make him look better....but, who knows - hopefully, he WAS in agreement with Captain Lee.

 

Oh, and I love Captain Lee, but I really, really, really wanted see him get pissed off and tell Leon what a douche he is.  I wanted to see him rip Leon a new asshole before throwing him off the boat.  So, that was a little disappointing, but I'm glad to see Ben back!!  

 

Rocky is going to have an instant dislike for Ben, because he has past history with the rest of crew, and he and Kate are former "friends with benefits"....should be interesting!!!  

 

Love, love, love Amy - she just keeps up a happy face no matter what.  And Connie has been pretty awesome, too -- hope they both keep it up.

 

Emile was kind of floundering this week, when he was kissing Rocky's butt or sticking up for Leon.  I felt kind of bad for him - he backed the wrong horse and now, he knows he's kind of the odd man out.  

 

Atlanta Housewives next week - looks like they are going to be demanding, pain in the ass charter guests.  

[breezy424]

Capt. Lee's blog.  Says it all:

 

http://www.bravotv.com/below-deck/season-3/blogs/captain-lee-rosbach/captain-lee-rosbach-the-fire-was-leons-fault

 

There's something really wrong with Rocky.  Beyond just being annoying.  Who keeps looking at the ceiling, well unless there's something amazing up there we don't know about, when a producer asks you questions.    I wouldn't call her an narcissist (Leon is a narcissist) but it's certainly a case of being coddled all her life.

[Trooper York]

Captain Lee is the one that should be fired. He lost control of his crew. Look if you are going to fire the chef you don't tell him to cook the last meal before he goes. How do you think that would taste?

When you run a business you try to not fire someone unless you have a replacement. Plus you don't let them linger. You fire them and have security escort them out.

Captain Crunch is a better Captain than Captain Lee!

Edited October 28, 2015 by Trooper York

[forum4idiots]

rocky.  that one is some piece of shit....i mean i thought i knew shit, but that shit is on a whole different level.  dad must be proud watching your crazy self whore it up for the camera.....so proud.

 

and yes, eddie.  you tapped that.  now you're gonna have to live with that.  better lock away your bunny.  you know that shit hitting the fan impersonation you were doing?  you fucked that shit on a fan.

 

amazing how rocky could give lessons about oven protocol when she can't even cook chicken in the oven.

 

leon.....rocky level.  gosh , leon.  can't blame quitting mid charter on editing now, can u?

Edited October 28, 2015 by lovebug1975

[Misslindsey]

 

The Captain should have fired both Leon and Kate.  What experienced Chief Stewardess would not know the basics of handling an oven fire in the galley?  She and Rocky fanned the flames, left the oven open, did not attempt to put the fire out with an extinguisher, then ran out of the galley while radioing for help.  Did she even shut off the oven?  Kate had just burned the popcorn in the microwave and I think most of the smoke from the oven fire was from that.  Kate should know how to deal with this kind of emergency.

I do not think Captain Lee was looking to fire anyone regarding the oven fire. I thought he was just trying to get everyone's version of what happened and talked to Leon because he is the chef, even if he was sleeping during the whole incident. I think if Leon had a better attitude when he went to talk to Captan Lee about the fire he would not have gone home. If he owned up to the dirty oven and said he would try to work with Kate better, I think he would have stayed. Instead he was a bit combative with Captain Lee from the start and then the added that Kate was drinking, even though he was sleeping during the fire. So I think that just topped off how Captain Lee already felt regarding Leon. I think most people have worked with someone they have not necessarily liked, but most people can remain cordial and professional to get work done, but I do not think Leon would give an inch. Kate has made comments to Leon, but for the most part, I do see her trying to be professional when trying to communicate with Leon for the guests sake.

 

I was hoping to be done with Leon and Rocky. I cannot deal with Rocky and her tantrums. I give Amy and Kate props for picking up her slack all the time.  I loved watching Rocky's face fall when Ben mentioned that he was glad to be back and he has worked with some of the crew before.

 

So does anyone know who the deckhand is? I thought Captain Lee said it was somebody they knew. I forgot who he was talking to. So who is Rocky going to attempt to hook up with, Ben or the new deckhand?

[Box305]

From what I recall seeing in the previous previews (especially the long promo that aired midseason which showed the rest of the season)

the "new" deckhand looked like the gay deckhand from season one whose name escapes me,

but I could be totally wrong.

Edited October 28, 2015 by Box305

[njbchlover]

I do not think Captain Lee was looking to fire anyone regarding the oven fire. I thought he was just trying to get everyone's version of what happened and talked to Leon because he is the chef, even if he was sleeping during the whole incident. I think if Leon had a better attitude when he went to talk to Captan Lee about the fire he would not have gone home. If he owned up to the dirty oven and said he would try to work with Kate better, I think he would have stayed. Instead he was a bit combative with Captain Lee from the start and then the added that Kate was drinking, even though he was sleeping during the fire. So I think that just topped off how Captain Lee already felt regarding Leon. I think most people have worked with someone they have not necessarily liked, but most people can remain cordial and professional to get work done, but I do not think Leon would give an inch. Kate has made comments to Leon, but for the most part, I do see her trying to be professional when trying to communicate with Leon for the guests sake.

 

I was hoping to be done with Leon and Rocky. I cannot deal with Rocky and her tantrums. I give Amy and Kate props for picking up her slack all the time.  I loved watching Rocky's face fall when Ben mentioned that he was glad to be back and he has worked with some of the crew before.

 

So does anyone know who the deckhand is? I thought Captain Lee said it was somebody they knew. I forgot who he was talking to. So who is Rocky going to attempt to hook up with, Ben or the new deckhand?

 

I think when Captain Lee was talking on the phone, he may have been talking to Ben (maybe not, though - I don't think we ever heard Captain Lee say anyone's name, so it could be a little producer manipulation).

 

I'm wondering if Kelly (Amy's brother) will be the new deckhand fill-in??  Well - that would be interesting, wouldn't it?  After seeing Amy and he Skyping, etc.,---and I would sooo love to see how Rocky would try to play with Kelly!!  

 

Just my brain wandering about different scenarios I would like to see - I don't have any information or anything. 

Edited October 28, 2015 by njbchlover

[forum4idiots]

wow.  i didn't know you need to go to culinary school nowadays to make people puke.......maybe had she put some of her meds on the salad, the guests would have passed out so they wouldn't have any idea how much the food sucked.....that way, they wouldn't have to be conscious when they puke.  yup, eddie,  you tapped that. lol.

 

maybe she will swim with that mermaid outfit again and the sharks will mistake her for a real fish and eat her.

 

as far as leon's cooking skills......eddie's steak got the same high compliments..........so yeaaaaaaaa.

Edited October 28, 2015 by lovebug1975

[forum4idiots]

wow.  the air just CHANGED when ben came on..........welcome back!

[biakbiak]

Rocky had to be trolling with that dinner right? I mean she was just going to throw the steak on a another plate by itself? Plus, her "no one told me the table was that small!" Dude you have been working on the boat for weeks you should know the size of the table.

[forum4idiots]

Rocky had to be trolling with that dinner right? I mean she was just going to throw the steak on a another plate by itself? Plus, her "no one told me the table was that small!" Dude you have been working on the boat for weeks you should know the size of the table.

she's a diver.  i really believe she hit her head on the diving board one too many times and she is on several meds.

[leighroda]

I hope the deckhand is the one from season 1, but I can't think of the name either I can only remember alecks (he spelled it weird I don't remember how) but I don't think that is the one box305 is thinking of. I noticed how crushed Rocky looked when they all already knew Ben (and that apparently him and Kate have been together too) I'm guessing she figured if it was someone new and unfamiliar that a) she could step in and "help" in the kitchen b) that she would no longer be the dumbest (although I'm sure even the barnicles have her beat on that front) or c) it would be someone she could form an allience with.

I think there were actually 2 separate phone calls because it seemed like he explained the situation twice and for one of the calls he specifically said he had a deck hand position open. I'm sure one of the calls was Ben, but I don't know who the deckhand may be.

[rho]

I'm pretty sure the replacement deckhand is

David, the gay pornstar from the first

season. You can catch him clearly in the last few frames of this clip

 

http://www.bravotv.com/below-deck/season-3/videos/get-ready-to-go-below-deck-again

 

And at about the 0:43 mark here

 

http://www.bravotv.com/below-deck/season-3/videos/still-to-come-on-belowdeck

Edited October 28, 2015 by rho

[rho]

This was undoubtedly the most intense Below Deck episode yet. I mean, it was so jam packed, they had to push back Andy Cohen's playhouse for it.

 

But honestly, my favorite part was Connie pulling up the anchor on her own and Capt Lee being 100% supportive while Eddie ran his mouth off.

[LotusFlower]

I thought Eddie came across badly on this episode. The way he looked at the Leon situation was all wrong. He presented it as a firing of either Leon or Kate, and since Kate supervises more people, she's harder to replace, so firing Leon was the smart move. What?! No. Thankfully, the captain fired Leon because of his attitude and unprofessionalism. He took no responsibility for the fire, showed more interest in bashing Kate than in caring about his kitchen, and showed no willingness to cooperate or improve things that weren't working. I can't remember the particulars, but I seem to remember there was some managerial issue last season where Eddie made a bad decision or just bungled it. He might be a good bosun, but his managerial skills are lacking.

Then there's the stuff with Rocky. She's a narcissist and a nutcase, but apparently he likes her enough to fool around with her. Until he's done with her, so he decides he doesn't like her anymore, so it's time to criticize her and act all embarrassed at what he did. Not cool. Again - one bad decision after another.

[swankie]

The only thing I have to say is that its really stupid to think that you can fire someone and expect them to finish out the day. I don't know one person who would even trust the fired person to stay and handle anyone's food. I would be afraid they would poison everybody. And then he trusts the other insubordinate employee to fix food for the guests?! The one who protested the firing of the first insubordinate employee?! I would have treated the guests to a 5 star dinner on land before I would trust that bimbo to feed them. In fact, I wouldn't trust her to feed my hamster, let alone my rich charters. I especially wouldn't have let her continue to cook for them after one guest was already sick from one of her dishes. That captain isn't very smart if you ask me. I wonder how the guests feel watching this episode and realizing that they were lied to as to why the chef wasn't there and to see that they were fed food cooked by a finger licking bipolar asshat? smdh

Edited October 28, 2015 by OnceSane

[Giselle]

Rocky: God I wish the tide swept you out to sea. As far as your oreo cookie crumbles saving the tip, no it was Kate, Eddie, Connie and Amy saving the tip from incessant your screw ups and your asshole, lying, selfish friend Leon who deflect blame just like you do who also over promises and under performs. God why aren't you gone.

 

Rocky's Parents: Thanks a fucking lot for hoisting off on the rest of the world this mess you call a daughter. You created this  27 year old coddled, tantrum throwing, narcissistic, fucked up loon and we the world are subjected to her.

 

Captain Lee: You screwed the pooch this season, not Eddie, he screwed a loon. You should have nipped this in the bud three charters ago. You're lack of leadership affected the crew and the charter guests. If you don't believe that you are just as bad as Leon on that point.

 

Eddie You deserve to have a bunny boiled on your stove.

 

Emile: Grow a pair and while you are at it grow a brain.

 

Kate: You should have just ordered food from a restaurant for the white party. I wouldn't have trusted Rocky with making a PB&J sandwich.

 

Amy and Connie: Rock on girlfriends!

 

Leon: Fuck Off! Hope life kicks you in the teeth.

Edited October 28, 2015 by Giselle

[candall]

On the phone--to Ben, presumably--Captain Lee said, "I lost my chef in the middle of a charter."

 

Umm, no, you fired your chef in the middle of a charter.  What happened to that whole game plan where unsatisfactory crew members are ushered out via the special "tip & ticket" combo package of doom?

 

I guess if someone fired me and then proposed I go whip out a grand finale effort before my exit, I'd bee-line straight on out the door, too.  The promise of some mystery tip wouldn't even slow me down, compared to enduring a lengthy shitfest of awkwardness topped off with Kate's self-satisfied glee.

 

Bonehead move, Cappy.

[forum4idiots]

so rocky is an obvious production plant.  how is it that this nutjob lunatic jumps off the boat and not get fired?  easy.  production.  that lunatic is unstable.  i mean isn't that basically what that sterroid deckhand/engineer basically did?

Edited October 28, 2015 by lovebug1975

[LIGirl]

At the end of this episode, I literally asked myself out loud, "What the fuck did I just watch?"  Seriously, that was one jam packed episode full of fuckery and the top billing for the fuckery is split between Leon and Rocky.

 

Honestly, while I love the Captain and his take no bullshit attitude, I do think it was rather stupid of him to expect Leon to finish out the charter when he was essentially fired.  Being that it was literally the last day of that charter, the Captain should have conducted his interviews with Leon, Kate, and Rocky, and then told them he will revisit with them and what he decides to do about it, if anything, once the guests were off the yacht.  The Captain's mind was clearly made up, but they didn't need to know that.  He could have easily had Leon finish the day and then say, "Thanks, but I've decided that upon review of what happened last night and given the on-going circumstances, your services are no longer needed or welcome."  It's only if the charter just started and there were multiple days left to it, then I wouldn't have blamed the Captain for firing Leon right then and there.  By doing it at the end of the day/charter, the Captain would've saved himself and the rest of the crew several hours of unnecessary additional stress and bullshit.

 

I also believe as much as it would've fucked over an already fucked crew, the Captain should've canned Rocky right then and there, too.  That dive overboard was a blatant "Fuck you!" to him, crew, and the job.  Plus, that was clearly not her only issue throughout the season.  The fact that she should've been canned way before this for sucking at her job, this dive overboard should have been the final belt buckle in her straightjacket, period.  But I have a feeling that the production was behind keeping her because with both Leon and Rocky gone, where would the crazy and drama come from?  Eddie's fights over the phone with his girlfriend?  Bad weather cancelling another shark dive?  No.  I'd like to think the Captain would've had more respect for the job and his crew than that if production wasn't involved.

 

Did we really need to watch Rocky's psycho reenactment of her dive and attempt to swim to shore in her talking head?  Seriously, that was just icing on top of her batshit Oreo  cookie crumble crazy cake.

 

I really, really don't want to defend Rocky, but my gut feeling is that the primary didn't throw up from her oysters.  I believe he drank a shit ton of alcohol/shots at lunch and it caught up to him.  But hey, I have no problem if the crew wanted to believe the oysters made him sick.

 

I thought I was going to enjoy seeing Cynthia and her "Real Housewives of Atlanta" guests on this show, but the previews already have me cringing and not wanting to watch already.  Having Connie drink milk like a cat?  Telling someone to act like a dog?  Get the fuck out of here with all of that.  Getting a good tip shouldn't mean demeaning yourself.

 

Edited to add: Unless I see an official transcript from the culinary version of clown school that Rocky allegedly attended, I refuse to believe she ever went to culinary school let alone graduated from one.  I bet she bought a Groupon for a cooking class or two and believes that qualifies as "attended culinary school" on her résumé.  Then she tells Kate after dinner that she usually cooks instead of works as a stew?  In what universe would an entire yacht season of cooking be in her hands?!  Plus, even if that were true, why the fuck would she apply to be a stew on this yacht? She clearly sees being a stew as several steps below a chef, so that's just absurd.  And did anyone noticed that she licked her finger AGAIN while cooking dinner?!  That makes me want to puke more than the notion of Oreo cookies in my salad or grenadine on an oyster.

Edited October 28, 2015 by LIGirl

[biakbiak]

I love oysters! On more than one occasion I have eaten 2 doz plus. the notion of grenadine on an oyster causes me to nearly vomit, I can't imagine if I had to smell it or actually eat it guests would have been happy if there was just lemon and hot sauce. However, the boat probably has prepared horseradish and a simple mignonette takes basic ingredients and can be made in a minute.

I didn't like Eddie's explanation of why Leon was fired over Kate but he not only stepped up with the cooking, he stepped up with the laundry!

[yourmomiseasy]

I cannot stand the sound of Rocky talking.  I saw her doing the ceiling stare while talking to another person on this episode, not just during the talking heads.  I can't imagine what it must be like to deal with her in real life.  I laughed so hard when she called herself a chef.  Of course she used cookies and grenadine in her dishes - -she's a child and kids like sweets.  There's no similarities between cacao nibs and a cookie crumble.  At all.  

 

It is no surprise Rocky stripped down and jumped off the boat, it combines all her strengths in one ridiculous action.  I cannot believe they let her back on the boat, let alone let her just act like nothing happened.  I would have thrown all her shit off the side of the boat after her.  It should have been like Dane, where it wasn't her choice to make.  And then her being so insubordinate to Kate in the galley after that meal  Again she should have been booted.  It was hilarious when she was like "Walk off because I'm a child." and meant it sarcastically, because she is a fucking child.  How great that Rocky has done a "really frickin' awesome job stepping up and doing the stew role" -- the job she was hired to do and accepted.  I don't understand why she needs accolades for doing her fucking job.  Millennial.  Her parent's should be super proud of the job they've done.   When even Connie and Amy are talking shit about you, you're an asshole.

 

Poor stupid Emile thinking the chef job might have been offered to Rocky.  LOL.  He really is dumb.  But I guess he's loyal.  I hope he doesn't join Rocky in being disruptive in misplaced loyalty to Leon.  The boy just needs to keep his stupid head down and get his job done.

 

Leon mentioned spilled juice in the oven before Rocky cut him off.  He knew it wasn't the "clean dry pans" and was just trying to throw blame wherever he could and Rocky harping on about the pans gave him something to grasp on to.  That all the sensible people have mentioned the dirty oven being the cause makes me think it was pretty obvious that Leon did a shit job of cleaning the galley. 

 

Leon was a dick straight off with the Captain.  He might have kept his job if he had a better attitude and also didn't lie straight to the Captain's face.  Also, way to be a mature professional and storm off instead of finishing your shift.  I'd expect someone that considers himself such a professional to rise above and finish out the day like an adult.  I was laid off and they needed me and my team to stay on for 7 months after the layoff to help shut things down and consult on projects for other divisions.  We continued on with the same professionalism and standard of excellence that we had conducted ourselves with throughout our tenure.  It's a small world and word gets around, why shoot yourself in the foot when you're going to be looking for a job soon.  

 

The Captain didn't handle the situation perfectly.  Capt. Lee should have called Rocky out on her bullshit right then and there during the incident report interview instead of just commenting on it in a talking head.  He should have also made it clear to Leon why he was leaving.  He probably should have also corrected Eddie's mistaken impressions on the decision drivers.

 

While I enjoy anyone talking shit about Rocky and not being charmed by her special snowflakeness, Eddie can take several seats.  He did do a good job taking over and cooking the steaks though.  It was hilarious that the guests wanted to thank the chef.

 

I didn't enjoy the boys club of Eddie, Ben, and Lee laughing about Ben banging Kate.  I did like everyone being so happy to see Ben and then Rocky's face falling when she realized he already knew everyone and likely wouldn't be her ally. 

 

The guests actually seemed really nice and appreciative.  I'm glad that they got to go on their shark dive and that all the nonsense drama didn't seem to have an impact on their enjoyment of their trip.  Luckily, they were too drunk to notice Rocky's awesome recipe ideas.  The Primary was just so thrilled with his birthday and appreciative of the experience.  He didn't even seem upset about puking.  The puking might have been from too much drinking and not Rocky poisoning him.  I can't even be mad about his sons seeming a tiny bit douchey.

 

Hope the promo monkeys are just having fun and the guests next week are not as demeaning to the staff as it appears they are going to be.

[biakbiak]

Captain Lee wasn't going to fire anybody based on the fire. In the end wasn't a huge deal but they needed to write up an incident report. He even told Kate we will investigate, write it up and then it would be done. That is what happens, if someone can be found at fault it will be established but it wouldn't necessarily be a fireably offense. It was how Leon reacted that got him dismissed. I routinely heat up dry pans in the oven, never a fire. But Leon doubled done the blame. It would not surprise me if the stews do an occasional shot and have a fake shot bottle on hand like many bartenders do when customers insist that they take a shot with them and she did one of those. On land most bartenders will take actual shots but if they are responsible will start doing fake shots at a certain point but she wasn't drunk and I even doubt my s hit hypothesis after his none follow-up.

Given the nature of yachting a stew taking a sip of champagne, or a real/ fake shot to keep the guests happy seems normal but I don't even buy that with Kate. I have no evidence but will go with the theory that Rocky has done it before and told Leon that "everyone"'does it.

I can't get over cocoa nibs versus Oreos! Knowing Rocky she licked off the Oreo filling !

Edited October 28, 2015 by biakbiak

[rho]

It would not surprise me if the stews do an occasional shot and have a fake shot bottle on hand like many bartenders do when customers insist that they take a shot with them and she did one of those. On land most bartenders will take actual shots but if they are responsible will start doing fake shots at a certain point but she wasn't drunk and I even doubt my s hit hypothesis after his none follow-up.

Given the nature of yachting a stew taking a sip of champagne, or a real/ fake shot to keep the guests happy seems normal but I don't even buy that with Kate. I have no evidence but will go with the theory that Rocky has done it before and told Leon that "everyone"'does it.

I can't get over cocoa nibs versus Oreos! Knowing Rocky she licked off the Oreo filling !

 

Solid theory, but I just can't imagine anyone wants to do shots with Kate. Amy probably and definitely Rocky but surely not RBF Kate. I really think Leon was grasping for straws there. And based on the smug face, I think he honestly believed Capt Lee would side with him over Kate.

 

And while I don't doubt that the crew might sneak a drink on charter, Kate is the least likely offender to me. If anyone is drinking on board, it's the chef making wine sauces and bourbon purees. In her two seasons on this show, Kate has never shown even an inkling of overindulging. She's usually pretty conservative with her intake and when everyone else is chugging Stoli, she's milking the same cup of ice and limes.

 

And don't get me started on Rocky and licking things. She couldn't seem to keep her thumb out of her mouth when she was preparing the guests' food. And when she was commiserating with Emile and Eddie over pizza, she practically licked clean the inside of, what I believe is, a container of ranch.

Edited October 28, 2015 by rho

[biakbiak]

Last season I would agree about no one wanting to hang out with Kate, this season she seems uptight, friendly and professional to the guests so I think they would think a shot would loosen her up a bit.

[Sai]

Ever hear of a napkin??  Rocky doesn't even just lick her fingers.  She sticks the entire finger in her mouth then sucks on it while she pulls it out, It totally grosses me out.  I hate finger licking enough but what she does is so much worse.  Try it, fellow posters.  Try sticking your entire finger in your mouth and sucking it as you pull it out.  I bet you can't make yourself do it, can you?  Of course not.....cuz it's NASTY!!!!!  Lol, laughing here wondering how many of you are really trying it....hahahaha.  Hey, I tried to see if I could do it and I just could not!

 

Cripes, Leon is nothing but a giant ass!!!  I couldn't believe the way he was talking to the Captain, his superior!  Leon absolutely should have been fired and I'm ecstatic that he was.  Not only was he extremely difficult to work with but he was also very lazy and his carelessness put the entire boat at risk with his unclean over fire hazard.

 

Captain Lee saved the day with his treating the quests out to lunch idea.  He pulled it off like he had it planned the whole time.  Thee guests were touched by his kindness and so happy.  Oh....if they only knew the real reason he was treating them to lunch, lol!!!  At least Lee kept them happy and they really did not have any idea what was happening.  I guess we can thank Kate, Amy and Connie for that as well because of all the booze they kept feeding the guests.  Heck after all that drinking you could have put a McDonald's hamburger in front of them and they would have devoured it and loved it.  I know, I've been there, lol.

 

ETA: it appears that Leon removed his twitter post with Rocky's email and phone number.  What a bunch of nimrods.

Edited October 28, 2015 by Sai

[leighroda]

I agree that the capt maybe should not have shown his hand if he really wanted Leon to finish out the charter, but I think as some others have said, that he didn't really necessarily plan on firing anyone immediately, it was when Leon tried to throw Kate under the bus and blatantly lied that he let Leon go, the capt has even said in other seasons that lying is basically the worst offense you can do on his ship.

The fact that the primary was the only one who threw up indicates that it probably wasn't just the oysters and it was a combination shots/oysters etc. but still grenadine!? Someone hit the nail on the head when they said Rocky cooks like a child, it's so true, too bad she didn't have gummi worms to add to the salad too.

Wtf culinary school did Rocky go to??? The "Josie Duggar school of culinary arts"? (19 kids and counting anyone?) I didn't see she licked her finger again (but I wasn't watching too closely), but I'm with Sai, that is disgusting. I'm extremely overly cautious to the point that I really don't like eating with my hands at all, even things like chips or pizza because I'm a nurse and I know where my hands have been all day, even though I wash them all the time I still cannot fathom sticking my entire finger in my mouth, especially if I'm cooking and handling other people's food... When I was in nursing school we did an exercise where the teacher put this stuff on our hands and had us go wash them how we normally do, and when we came back put our hands in a black light to show us how much of the dye was still there and where we missed cleaning our hand (like around the fingernails) to show us how important good hand washing is.

I also love how Rocky "loves" Emile again after all the crap she talked about him, now that he's the only one who stupidly is on her side, I will not be shocked if they hook up before the end.