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The fact that I listened to that entire opening number of nurses rapping makes me think I'm not making good choices in life.

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Next week: Paul reveals he was born a poor black child

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It's None Of Her Business: The Carly Corinthos Story.

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Ya'll forgot twas Sonny we can blame for the infection of Kiki upon Port Charles. The Jeromes wanted Sonny and went after Morgan. Ava sent her daughter to seduce The Captain. The story was dropped for Micheal wuv Kiki 4 eva but I remember. I saw that shit. Sit down, nostrils, you are the 3rd biggest liar to Micheal currently.

Sonny also polluted PC. All that tanning oil and hair grease.

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CPP83

CPP83

I'm so ready for the SERIAL KILLER to meet another well deserved, and too long in coming, end. I can't stand how Roger plays him and I can't stand the character period. I don't care that he's suddenly "gunning" for Carly and Sonny, it won't matter shit all in the end anyhow.

 

Carly will still be Carly and Maurice re-signed so Sonny is staying put, neither filthy piece of trash will suffer as they should and certainly will face hardly any punishment, if any at all. It's a waste of time, imho, and I am sick and tired of seeing everything unfold knowing the outcome is going to resolve not a damn thing, especially for AJ. Ron is determined to keep AJ's memory alive as a loser, he's such a petty ass.

 

Pairing Laura with Billy just highlighted, for me, how very young he looks and she doesn't and...no, that's not working. Got that Ron? None of your shitty Jakson tactics are working, at least on me.

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tvgoddess

tvgoddess

She [Kiki] was super annoying today.  How about when she was all, "I can't handle talking about Sonny gutting you, Mommy!" and Ava was all, "I'm soooooo sorry my possibly being murdered is tough on you, bitch."

 

I so loved Ava giving her lameass daughter shade for that remark. You could tell she was thinking, "god have I taught you nothing? (Wo)Man up, you simp!"

 

Why does Nina think that she will get Ava's baby tomorrow? Does she expect her mother to cut it out of Ava?

 

It seems like Nina thinks that Ava is further along than she is, since she thinks she's ready to "pop". Um no, Nina. You'd think that someone so obsessed with her rival and ruining said rival's life, she'd do a more thorough job on her research. From the preview, it sounds like she is told there might be something wrong with the baby. I very much want this baby to live (and be Morgan's), but it would be hilarious if the baby died robbing Nina of the chance to grab it.

 

Very much agree with Morgan changing his last name to Jacks. I would so love that. Especially after Sonny completely failed to acknowledge him yet again today. When he was yammering away to Ghost!Connie about Franco, he said "Boom! Then I don't have a son anymore." Really? Poor Morgan. Dante's better off though.

 

I'm hiding in shame, but I didn't hate this episode. I actually liked a lot of it. I liked the Jarly (throws knives at myself), and I didn't mind Franco and Nina together. Madeline shading Franco was gold, though. And while I'm not sure I could see ER's Lulu going medieval on Jerry's ass, I could definitely see JMB's Lulu so I appreciated the comment.

 

So, not even Connie wants Ava dead. Take a hint, Sonny.

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Turtle

Turtle

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TOO MANY ANVILS.  "Best friend risen from the dead"?  "Would talk me out of marrying Franco?"  "I don't why I trust you but I do"?  Pardon my french, but are you fucking kidding me???  No.  No no no no no no no. 

 

I was willing to tolerate a new Jason, because I really hoped he would not be sucked back in to Carly & Sonny's orbit.  If this "new Jason" is just going to be old Jason with a new face, then I am going to... well, I don't know what.  Probably complain about it an awful lot in this forum.  Loudly and often, and probably incorporating cuss words and all-caps and exclamation points.  But I want to be the kind of person who could honestly threaten to scorch and burn this earth, leaving no one alive.  Because that's what I think should happen if new Jason is just more of the same old BS.  

 

I didn't really understand the point of the Jerry/Tracy stuff.  Tracy got him a few more shares than she already had given him, right?  Just Alice's?  And then Jerry's like, "Okay, well, close enough."?  And it's 99% likely that whatever they were gasping at is not Luke or Fluke.

 

Shhh, now TeeVee, it's all okay, don't worry your pretty little head about trying to make sense of any of this.  Lord knows the writers didn't bother.  (Kidding with the condescending tone, in case it wasn't clear.)  

 

So fuck off Sonny.

 

Thanks, Grrrpants, for summing it up so well.

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twoods

twoods

This Jakeson shit is ridiculous. Why are all the ladies throwing their panties at him and telling him their stories and secrets? So much suck. He needs to remember he is a Q soon so he can disown Carson and be head of ELQ.

Interested to see if Jerry actually delivered Luke. Too bad it's Fluke and this miserable storyline will keep going on until November sweeps.

Ava loves playing the victim when she is conveniently keeping the info that she killed Connie and put a bullet in Olivia. Kiki, Michael deserves better.

It's sad that the only thing I find enjoyable nowadays is Franco/Nina cookoo hotness and Olivia/Ned, because Ned makes everything better. They better have the AJ reveal next week or I'm barging.

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Cobalt Stargazer

Cobalt Stargazer

Ava loves playing the victim when she is conveniently keeping the info that she killed Connie and put a bullet in Olivia. Kiki, Michael deserves better.

 

*shrug*

 

Not to be callous (well, okay, maybe it's a little callous), but I don't think anyone cares who killed Connie anymore, not on the show and not in the audience. Sonny can slobber about how he murdered AJ to avenge the love of his life as much as he likes, but IMO it's pretty clear that he did it because he'd wanted to do it ever since AJ came back to Port Charles. Connie was only the love of his life until he jumped on top of her cousin, and then he slithered back into Carly's underwear. Meanwhile, Michael, the son he supposedly loves, has been grieving the loss of his real father while Scummy stays silent on the subject, and Ava is "conveniently" playing the victim? When was the last time Sonny hasn't played the victim? Speaking for myself, I barely cared about Connie when she was alive, and I was afraid it would turn out that Ava killed her because MoRon loves fucking up the things I enjoy. If anyone should come clean, it's Sonny, who is supposedly so honorable and promised Sad Panda Michael that he wouldn't hurt AJ. Apparently his word isn't worth the spit it takes to give it.

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Chairperson Meow

Chairperson Meow

I missed today, as there was a school shooting here, the FF coverage showed lots of footage of students hugging, and overhead shots of school buses. Did I miss anything important?

Well, Connie returned! I know! Contain your excitement, please. She's visited Super Cutz in Heaven, as she's an official Brenda Bot now, brown hair and all. She looks fabulous, but is dumb and useless as ever. Sonny beats on AJ's grave and literally goes into a tirade and says he has no remorse for murdering him, if he had to do it again, he would, and AJ was a curse to everyone he ever came in contact with. There was no mirror for that last line. He went on to be all Connie i lurve you, i did it for you. We did not have angry Connie. It was stupid, please go bang my cousin Connie. Except this time it was please bang Carly you lurve her. Then Connie said don't kill Franco and Ava. Sonny of course argued with his ghost wife, then Micheal walked in. End scene.

Hospital Painting Room. Poor hot Jakeson chilling in his chair, in walks Carly. She meets a stranger and of course tells him about her personal life. He looks at her like omg she is crazy. He makes awesome faces and does not remember Carly nor Sonny.

He promises not to tell Franco what she's doing with her ex. Franco walk in. End scene.

Brownstone of Moochery. Ava is pregnant and hoping this child is not like Kiki. Kiki is still dumb. She's like omg Micheal thinks you killed AJ. Ava says no bitch. Sonny did. Ava seems like she may dig Silas again. Kiki says omg I'm gonna cover for you, but I hate lying. Ava is like bitch please. Kiki says okay mom.

Random hospital room. Nina and Franco have a weird celebration over their plans. Donna Mills hates Franco. She also gets Rosalie to tell her where Ava is before Rooooo can tell Micheal. Ro goes to the Brownstone to warn Ava. Show ends.

Jerry Jax also got the stocks. Ned was pretty and Luke was on the terrace.

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ch1

ch1

Dude, why did Sonny have Ghost Connie appear in red, but for AJ she wore white?

 

 

Maybe they lost the white dress.  AJ saw Connie as she was the night she was shot.  Sonny - who the f knows.  I just know he needs to shut it about the woman I love bullshit.

 

The only reason why I care about who killed Connie is because AJ took the fall for it.  I want people beyond the horrible characters - like his freaking family - to know they had a reason to doubt he was capable of killing her.

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tveyeonyou

tveyeonyou

This Jakeson shit is ridiculous. Why are all the ladies throwing their panties at him and telling him their stories and secrets? So much suck. He needs to remember he is a Q soon so he can disown Carson and be head of ELQ.

This.

Nothing would make me happier than Jakeson and Michael carrying on the Quartermaine legacy together while giving Snarly and SuckBagSonny the shaft forever. We can have memorials all over Port Charles for AJ so those two douchebags are forced to be reminded of AJ everywhere they go, and when Sonny goes to jail for a very long time he should be forced to wear a Tshirt that says "I killed AJ Quartermaine and hate-fucked someone in his crypt" on the front and "I am an asshole" on the back with an arrow pointing downward so he can get what Michael got when he was in jail.

Sorry, my Sonny hate has no upper limit. I'm not dismissing Franco's role in what happened to Michael, it's just that I hate Sonny so much and really, everything is Sonny's fault. I just want to see him get what he deserves. And he deserves nothing good.

Yeah, I'm bitter.

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sunnyface

sunnyface

Poor MW.  I wish that they would put a little cartoon box above her head with letters about what she is thinking during her scenes with Kiki.

 

Every day that Jane Elliot is on my screen is a win.  She's a breath of fresh air to watch after the plethora of Sonny scenes where that actor can't even spit out his lines.  Yeah, Tracy as a character has entered the 'failed character' camp with the insipid Lecherous Luke story line but you can ruin a character, but you can't ruin that actress.  Franco is a failed character, but the actor lights up in his scenes with Nina and RM.  So yeah Ron, I am not rooting for your versions of the character, but I am rooting for those two actors and enjoy their scenes.

 

Can anyone provide a link verifying that Sonny has re-signed his contract?

 

It looks like there might be enough Quartermaines on the show for a Thanksgiving dinner!  Then again, maybe it's the Spenser house rising.

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dubbel zout

dubbel zout

My guess is that when Jerry said he was delivering her husband, Tracy and Ned are going to unwrap Lord Ashton.

 

Yeah, that earlier mention of Ned's father wasn't random.

 

Poor MW.  I wish that they would put a little cartoon box above her head with letters about what she is thinking during her scenes with Kiki.

 

"I did not sign on to work with amateurs." "Please kill me off, Ron. I can't deal with the stupidity of my stories."

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UYI

UYI

Yeah, as much as I would like to think she's thinking that, she's way too much of a sweetheart and is fond of KA so I doubt it.

 

Random: it sounds like KA is singing the national anthem for the Eagles tomorrow if I'm reading correctly. Poor football fans.

 

It's not the first time she's done something like this. She sang the national anthem at a Phillies game when she was around 12. She's from Bucks County, just by Philly, so those are her home teams.

 

...and now I'm confessing that I grew up with Starr and I loved KA for the longest time. Please don't hurt me. 

movinon

movinon

 

Interested to see if Jerry actually delivered Luke. Too bad it's Fluke and this miserable storyline will keep going on until November sweeps.

 

I really hope they deliver Fluke (as a dead body).  They were supposed to find him on the patio, and they all looked horrified, so that would be a perfect solution.  Then everyone can mourn Luke until someone finds him at the crazy place, and in the meantime, Julian has no boss.  I'm only here since June, so this is probably no long-term solution, but it's the best I can do.

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Cobalt Stargazer

Cobalt Stargazer

Brownstone of Moochery. Ava is pregnant and hoping this child is not like Kiki. Kiki is still dumb. She's like omg Micheal thinks you killed AJ. Ava says no bitch. Sonny did. Ava seems like she may dig Silas again. Kiki says omg I'm gonna cover for you, but I hate lying. Ava is like bitch please. Kiki says okay mom.

 

Bolded because it needs to be emphasized. Early and often.

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Tiger

Tiger

(edited)

Random: it sounds like KA is singing the national anthem for the Eagles tomorrow if I'm reading correctly. Poor football fans.

[Whitney Houston]OH HELL TO THE MOTHERFUCKING NO!!![/Whitney Houston]

I grew up in Philly, so they're my team. I was having such a good Saturday, but this really pisses me off. I have cousins going to the game; i'll warn them to bring earplugs.

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IWantCandy71

IWantCandy71

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I'm fairly certain it's Larry on the patio at the Q's-but does this mean Larry and Tracy are still married somehow?

I don't consider Tracy pathetic in all this; what I consider pathetic is when a person has opportunity and means to help a fellow human being and refuses to do so. Monica and Ned, I'm looking at you. YES, I get it-(F)Luke held a gun on Ned, and Monica just doesn't like him. But whatever happened to the old school Q's, who would put aside their personal grievances and stand together when an outsider was threatening them?  I like that we get to see more of the Q's, but if they aren't going to band together in times of trouble, is it really the true Q's anymore?

People complained for years that Tracy never changed-now she's at a point where she's FINALLY realized ELQ isn't the be all and end all, and she's willing to give up almost everything just to have Luke back.

Remember that she still believes Luke innocent-and you know what? She's right. Luke is NOT guilty of the crimes of Fluke.

The situation, if she knew Luke to be guilty, might be different. IDK.  I just know that if she professed to love him and stood by and did nothing, she'd be ostracized for that, and she's ostracized while helping him, so she just can't win.

What was it Jerry said about Ned? He was a truth teller yesterday. I adore WK and have loved Ned since the KRMcK days at the start. But Jerry's right-Ned is self righteous and judgemental.(forget the actual way he phrased it-that he could smell his judgement over the phone?) Never mind that I don't think Jerry and Ned have ever shared a scene-it was spot on.  Tracy has said it, too and I think she knows her son better than anyone.  He's always carried this air that he is the best/smartest person in the room. Reason #145 why he and Alexis won't work, because she's like that, too.

It's especially irritating because both Monica and Ned would give away their stock in a heartbeat if the person they loved most was threatened-and they both know it.

Anyway-if they aren't going to do the old school "Q's banding together" thing ever again, perhaps they should just put them all on a bus and crash it.

 

ETA sorry for bolding the whole post, tried to undo/edit and it didn't work.

Edited by IWantCandy71
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MSquared

MSquared

 

...and now I'm confessing that I grew up with Starr and I loved KA for the longest time. Please don't hurt me.

 

 

Nothing wrong there.  I loved Starr when she was younger.  Cute as a button, soul of the devil (good thing there) and she could ACT!  It's the last few years that KA's been playing basically herself on screen (on OL and GH) that have been a disappointment.

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OnceSane

OnceSane

I'm fairly certain it's Larry on the patio at the Q's-but does this mean Larry and Tracy are still married somehow?

I don't consider Tracy pathetic in all this; what I consider pathetic is when a person has opportunity and means to help a fellow human being and refuses to do so. Monica and Ned, I'm looking at you. YES, I get it-(F)Luke held a gun on Ned, and Monica just doesn't like him. But whatever happened to the old school Q's, who would put aside their personal grievances and stand together when an outsider was threatening them? I like that we get to see more of the Q's, but if they aren't going to band together in times of trouble, is it really the true Q's anymore?

People complained for years that Tracy never changed-now she's at a point where she's FINALLY realized ELQ isn't the be all and end all, and she's willing to give up almost everything just to have Luke back.

Remember that she still believes Luke innocent-and you know what? She's right. Luke is NOT guilty of the crimes of Fluke.

The situation, if she knew Luke to be guilty, might be different. IDK. I just know that if she professed to love him and stood by and did nothing, she'd be ostracized for that, and she's ostracized while helping him, so she just can't win.

What was it Jerry said about Ned? He was a truth teller yesterday. I adore WK and have loved Ned since the KRMcK days at the start. But Jerry's right-Ned is self righteous and judgemental.(forget the actual way he phrased it-that he could smell his judgement over the phone?) Never mind that I don't think Jerry and Ned have ever shared a scene-it was spot on. Tracy has said it, too and I think she knows her son better than anyone. He's always carried this air that he is the best/smartest person in the room. Reason #145 why he and Alexis won't work, because she's like that, too.

It's especially irritating because both Monica and Ned would give away their stock in a heartbeat if the person they loved most was threatened-and they both know it.

Anyway-if they aren't going to do the old school "Q's banding together" thing ever again, perhaps they should just put them all on a bus and crash it.

ETA sorry for bolding the whole post, tried to undo/edit and it didn't work.

But the Qs don't consider Luke to be family. I can't blame them, either; Luke tends to treat Tracy like shit on a regular basis while mooching off her & the rest of the family.

Poor Jason, he's getting a glimpse of what his life was, and will be, like. I wouldn't tell anyone my memory was back if I knew I'd have to deal with Liz & Carly. I say this assuming Jason will remember at some point.

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IWantCandy71

IWantCandy71

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Doesn't matter IMO if they don't consider him family. Tracy and Monica fought constantly back in the day, and while I don't think they ever hated each other, they fought viciously enough to make it look like they did. And yet....when Monica's reputation at the hospital was at stake(I can't remember why at the time) Tracy walked into the hospital board meeting and chewed them all up and spit them out for Monica's sake.

 

And that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about, when I say old school Q's banded together in spite of personal differences.

 

They don't have to love Luke-because TRACY does, and Tracy IS family. And that is mostly what should matter in the end. Yes, the situation is slightly different because Ned has been threatened and he knows Luke is up to no good.

But they are Q's. Being up to no good is something that can be said of most of them on a regular basis. It would seem to me, if I were Ned and truly believed Luke was bad news-better to have him home where an eye can be kept, rather than not.

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GHScorpiosRule

GHScorpiosRule

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Remeber when shawn had broken into robins house and targeted Jax an innocent man even though Robin had already convinced Jax to give Joss back to Carly.Hating on shawn this week made me realize hes always been a punk lol.

No, that was the midgety moobster Sonny who broke into Robin's house doing that and shot Robin. In front of her child.

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SoapDoc

SoapDoc

 

But the Qs don't consider Luke to be family. I can't blame them, either; Luke tends to treat Tracy like shit on a regular basis while mooching off her & the rest of the family.

 

 

 

Luke chose to drink, and then chose to get behind the wheel, and then mowed down Monica's grandson. If anything, Monica should be thanking Jerry for getting that drunk baby-killing rapist out of her sight.

Also, the last time Ned saw Luke, the rapist threatened to kill him. He too should be thanking Jerry.

 

Yeah, I can't get behind the thought that the Qs should be willing to give up their legacy for someone who has killed or threatened to kill various members of their family. Tracey can because he's her husband and Alice can because she has an affinity for Luke. Ned -- why would he? Fluke just threatened to kill him. Sometimes when you threaten people, it may come back to bite you. Monica -- why would she? Luke killed her grandkid and exhibited minimal remorse for it (IMO).

 

Besides, giving in to blackmail often just means that the criminal will come back for more. There are not that many Qs around the world -- however, Jerry may look to see who else he can collect since he sees that they will pay to get people back. Ned shut that down in relation to Brooklyn but it is still a problem.

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IWantCandy71

IWantCandy71

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Not that I really want to get into a debate about what characters are more awful than others, but didn't Monica also get behind the wheel and drink and drive and hit someone? Wasn't it Sam? It was during the Guza period, and at a time when it was so overrun with SamJasonSonnyCarly(not much changes, eh?) that it took me about five minutes a week to watch the show. 

 

But again, it's not my desire to start a "horrible Luke" discussion-especially not on this show where, TBH, all the characters have a pretty deep level of suckitude-or worse, they're boring. Or both. In a nutshell-I'd be here all day if I listed the crimes each character has committed. Or how each character doesn't "deserve" to be helped. I'm at a loss as to how "help" is deserved or earned, though.  

 

I am not saying the Q's should be *happy* about helping Luke. Never said that, wouldn't expect them to be. Nor should they be happy about possibly giving up their company.

I guess I can't get too fussed about the possibility of ELQ falling completely into someone else's hands by whatever means, because it will eventually be back where it belongs, in the bosom of the Q's. It always is, and it wouldn't be the first time that company went haywire.

So I'm not exactly on pins and needles about it, no matter what stocks are given to Jerry. 

No, they shouldn't WANT to help Luke. But I guess I come from a place of-the person you refuse to help today, will be the person you need help from tomorrow.

This is a soap, after all. Sometimes, that tends to be the way it works out. Probably not on this show though, because nothing really makes sense, plot wise, anymore.

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Ambrosefolly

Ambrosefolly

IWantCandy71 I am going to half agree with you. Understandably, the remaining Qs feel that Luke isn't a true Q like Monica became and furthermore, he did kill a Q, in his case a child (Jake) and handing over a big corporation for him is a lot much to ask. What Tracy should be doing is seeing if she can get Jax to speak to his brother on her behalf or Anna to do something (or both). I still feel for her and hate what RC is doing to the character. Luke is a terrible husband/paramour that takes advantage of her, but the one thing he has over her entire family is that he likes Tracy's caustic attitude and is the one on her side everytime Tracy is trying to take control of the company, and for the most part didn't interfere with Tracy in running ELQ, just wanted the goodies like being waited on by Alice and good scotch. Luke cheats on her, but so did the other men in her life, only this time she is first in the rotation, beating out the legendary Laura. 
 
Of course, I perception is colored by the fact that I dislike Michael. I know I mentioned that Ned may prefer someone like him compared to people like Tracy or AJ who were hungry not only for the company but for the validation that comes from it, but I also think there is nothing wrong with  putting your arms around something and taking ownership, which is a quality neither Michael and Ned share with Edward. I kind of hate that Michael, with little experience and education, is doing well running ELQ. Even Donald Trump's children went to college to study business before given executive positions (under their father) and the interviews I see of Ivanka, exhibit some sort of passion.  Even though Ned was right in the argument, I did love it when Tracy put emphasis Michael's legal last name. Blood and one year not hating AJ is the only thing that binds him to the Qs. But even then, he was still cast as a golden child like his uncle Jason (which is treatment not even her own son Dillon enjoyed). He was raised a Corinthos and even if Michael ends up hating Sonny and Carly, those assholes still win if he does well. Tracy never got half the support to run ELQ (even pre heart medication) that Michael has always had. 
 

But Jerry's right-Ned is self righteous and judgemental.(forget the actual way he phrased it-that he could smell his judgement over the phone?)

I like Wally Kurth and Ned, but I kind of agree with Jerry on this one. Everyone talks about what Michael's reaction should be once the AJ reveal comes out, but will we get to see the reaction to Tracy finding out about FauxLuke? Will Ned show compassion when he realizes everything FauxLuke took from Tracy?

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Chairperson Meow

Chairperson Meow

I wouldn't give my family business over to save a baby killing rapist alcoholic cheater, especially one that's repeatedly made my mother/sister in law/aunt look completely stupid. Hell no. I'd call the damn police. Duh. Because there are no guarantees that an obvious psychopath (charming that he may be), will actually deliver on his promises. I'd call Anna Devane or Dante, hell Tracy has called poor Dante out of bed for less. Luke didn't give a damn about Lulu's safety when he ran to a brothel after murdering his own grandson. Hell, he still drinks. So, honestly, I'd consider this latest kidnapping the punishment he never got for killing Jake, the child and running like a coward.

Tracy needs to dump his ass, Fluke/Luke or whatever. She needs a law abiding man who respects her and doesn't treat her like crap. I only want TG back to wrap this dumb story up, then maybe Jakeson can get his memory back or Heather Webber can shoot Luke on her way back to Mischavage. Because he's done. Laura is the only draw tbh. And minus Laura, really Luke is nothing.

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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

  Will Ned show compassion when he realizes everything FauxLuke took from Tracy?

Possibly, but in his place I'd find it very difficult considering Tracy walked in on FauxLuke holding a gun on Ned, but took FauxLuke's side because in not trusting her (re: ELQ) due to her commitment to FauxLuke, he hurt her pride. She also talks like Luke running down and killing little Jake was an oopsie fender bender, which makes her look horrible. 

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