Episode Discussion: TFGH

[perkie1968]

I know Kim has completely lost her marbles, but what exactly is her plan here.  Unless she gave Drew some sort of Viagra type injection, he's not going to be able to perform if he's passed out.    Even if all she wants is a sample so she can mix things up in a petrie dish.  Also, they are right out in the open, where anyone can walk up and find them.  It's all so WTF.  

[Bringonthedrama]

13 minutes ago, ulkis said:

 There's more than one room I think. Or did they specifically say so?

Show made a point of having Franco bang on the door that had the anchor decoration on it, when Elizabeth wasn't coming out. He entered and the flowers and such were strategically placed on the bed and on the furniture, so the set up of the room stood out. Ava and the psychic opened the door with the anchor decoration, and the bed and furniture all had the same set up and had been cleaned up. 

[tvgoddess]

8 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

I know Kim has completely lost her marbles, but what exactly is her plan here.  Unless she gave Drew some sort of Viagra type injection, he's not going to be able to perform if he's passed out.    Even if all she wants is a sample so she can mix things up in a petrie dish.  Also, they are right out in the open, where anyone can walk up and find them.  It's all so WTF.   

All she has to do is say that he had too much to drink and kind of drag him into a room. We already saw the preview for tomorrow that they're in a room there and she's got him on the bed.

[Kiki777]

Who is his actress playing the psychic?  She is majorly creeping me out and I can't figure out why.

[ByaNose]

2 minutes ago, Kiki777 said:

Who is his actress playing the psychic?  She is majorly creeping me out and I can't figure out why.

Veronica Cartwright. Sister of Angela Cartwright of Lost in Space. Veronica was a big name back in the day, too.

Also, I’m still not feeling Cynthia Watros as Nina. She’s not crazy enough. She’s being written as more business like which is kind of boring.

[dubbel zout]

Drew would never do it, but I'd love him to call the cops and have Kim arrested for assault. It's so gross what they're having her do. Poor TB. If she hated Kim keeping Oscar's illness a secret from him, she can't be liking this crap.

The wedding cake wasn't any more attractive today. Who okayed that terrible gray frosting? It was so unappetizing. I don't know what this show has against baked goods.

Aside from that, this was a pretty soapy episode, especially given the low bar of this fakakta show.

[Kiki777]

55 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

Veronica Cartwright. Sister of Angela Cartwright of Lost in Space. 

 I looked her up and OMG she was that scary religious woman in The Witches of Eastwick who projectile-vomited cherry pits all over the place.  That scene scarred me for life and I still get grossed out at the sight of a cherry pit.

Speaking of gross, that gray cake frosting was weird and reminded me of the armadillo cake in Steel Magnolias.

Why was Jax there?  I mean, I love looking at the man but is he even friends with Franco or Elizabeth?

[Katy M]

3 minutes ago, Kiki777 said:

Why was Jax there?  I mean, I love looking at the man but is he even friends with Franco or Elizabeth?

Elizabeth did try to be a surrogate for him (and Courtney).  

[ciarra]

7 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Show really wants us to believe that Elizabeth is so hot for Franco that she thinks it's totes okay for all their guests to wait while they get it on?

It only took a minute.

[Cheyanne11]

I don't think the room Elizabeth and Franco were in was the same one as where Kiki got murdered.  Who would've cleaned up the entire thing, including the rose petals?  I would guess all the staterooms just have that anchor knocker on them.

Kim has friggin' lost it.  This is such a gross storyline. 

As has been mentioned, Terry's dress was fantastic, but bad shoes.  Kim's dress looked like it was from the '70's--and not in a good way.  And, again, STFU Bobbie with bitching Julian out.  God, insufferable much? 

[Melgaypet]

Bloody baby Jesus on a piece of motherfucking toast! Setting aside the fact that a replacement baby is a terrible idea, has this woman never heard of a goddamn sperm bank!? Have the writers? Which, good job with the writing a grieving mother, Show, make her a deranged rapist, that's what everyone is dying to see! I am in awe at your brilliance! I'm so amazed I might have to scoop out my eyeballs and soak them in bleach!

Who would've thought that Liz marrying her precious serial killer wouldn't be the grossest thing happening?

Edited July 9, 2019 by Melgaypet

[statsgirl]

But Kim wants Drew's baby. Because that's what Oscar was. But she's not trying to replace him at all.

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

The wedding cake wasn't any more attractive today. Who okayed that terrible gray frosting? It was so unappetizing. I don't know what this show has against baked goods.

Pretty baked good are an indicator of dubious sexuality. #ThingsI'veLearnedFromGeneralHospital.

[Auntie Velvet]

40 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I don't think the room Elizabeth and Franco were in was the same one as where Kiki got murdered.  Who would've cleaned up the entire thing, including the rose petals?  I would guess all the staterooms just have that anchor knocker on them.

Kim has friggin' lost it.  This is such a gross storyline. 

As has been mentioned, Terry's dress was fantastic, but bad shoes.  Kim's dress looked like it was from the '70's--and not in a good way.  And, again, STFU Bobbie with bitching Julian out.  God, insufferable much? 

It looked to me like there was the same "9" to the left of the door both when Franco and Liz were in there, and when Ava stormed in. And since Friz were in the Honeymoon Suite and that's where Kiki was placed during Curtis and Jordan's wedding, I guess that makes sense.

[Bringonthedrama]

9 hours ago, nilyank said:

Poor Cam.

He is doing all this nonsense for his mom and brothers. He would never in a million years consider Franco his dad. 

THIS. I call bullshit on Laura getting emotional when Cam used the word "dad" about Franco and the three boys performed.  She would never, ever be emotional in a good way about either Cam or Aiden - her son Lucky's sons - performing in honor of their mother marrying this man who strapped her daughter to a bomb and also kidnapped  Aiden as a newborn.  Laura would get emotional at watching her grandsons perform for their parents Lucky and Elizabeth if the two finally healed, got to a good place as a couple and as parents, and then re-married. 

Of Elizabeth's three sons, Jake is the only one who was grinning and excited.

[Kiki777]

Maybe that Haunted Star room is just the same set only vaguely re-dressed to look like another room - like everybody's hotel room at Metro Court and the one office shared by Carly, Drew, Nina and now Jax.

[tvgoddess]

10 hours ago, Melgaypet said:

Bloody baby Jesus on a piece of motherfucking toast! Setting aside the fact that a replacement baby is a terrible idea, has this woman never heard of a goddamn sperm bank!? Have the writers? Which, good job with the writing a grieving mother, Show, make her a deranged rapist, that's what everyone is dying to see! I am in awe at your brilliance! I'm so amazed I might have to scoop out my eyeballs and soak them in bleach!

Who would've thought that Liz marrying her precious serial killer wouldn't be the grossest thing happening?

I'm hoping this Kim/Drew thing is a fake out and they're not really going to go there. We don't need any more grossness on this show.

[Cheyanne11]

10 hours ago, statsgirl said:

But Kim wants Drew's baby. Because that's what Oscar was. But she's not trying to replace him at all.

Which is a turnaround from her first asking "Charlie" to make a baby with her. 

Conclusion: Kim is just a mess.  Which is understandable because she's grieving, but the way the show is using that grief to make her a psycho sperm stealer is disgusting.

Random: I am ALL about the sweet/salty combo, but chocolate *syrup* on popcorn is just going to give you a giant mess, Sasha.  M&Ms or chocolate chips are what you need.  

[dubbel zout]

12 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

And, again, STFU Bobbie with bitching Julian out.  God, insufferable much? 

I KNOW. It's not as if Julian is some rando that Brad roped in. He's Lucas's father. Given who Bobbie's son-in-law is, she doesn't have any room to complain. At least Julian isn't planning Shiloh's murder the way Sonny and Jason are. GOD.

11 hours ago, statsgirl said:

13 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

The wedding cake wasn't any more attractive today. Who okayed that terrible gray frosting? It was so unappetizing. I don't know what this show has against baked goods.

Pretty baked good are an indicator of dubious sexuality. #ThingsI'veLearnedFromGeneralHospital.

LOL. I totally forgot about that! Elizabeth and Franco should have put Aidan in charge of the cake. He'd have gotten it right.

[RedheadZombie]

15 hours ago, ByaNose said:

Veronica Cartwright. Sister of Angela Cartwright of Lost in Space. Veronica was a big name back in the day, too.

Also, I’m still not feeling Cynthia Watros as Nina. She’s not crazy enough. She’s being written as more business like which is kind of boring.

She was in Alien and Invasion of the Body Snatchers.  Also, Angela was in The Sound of Music as Brigida.

[ffwbe]

When was the last time there was a big event where Sonny, Carly, Jason, or Sam weren’t present?

[tvgoddess]

2 hours ago, ffwbe said:

When was the last time there was a big event where Sonny, Carly, Jason, or Sam weren’t present?

I don't know, but I've enjoyed these last two episodes (haven't watched today yet, but followed the online live recap) more than any other I can remember recently.

[Bringonthedrama]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but the two best/most realistic scenes of the day had Finn playing off someone.  The exchange with Epiphany was hilarious (she looked like she'd been asked to dump a couple dozen bed pans when she said her line) and the exchange with Elizabeth was the most real Elizabeth has been in a while when not alone with one of her kids.

I figured that Julian would interrupt Kim with Drew but he sucks for being all "poor poor sweetheart, you need help," removes her from the scene, and doesn't bother to show a moment of concern for Drew. You just take Kim's word that "he'll be fine," really?! 

Why is Hayden looking at Finn like he is the one who left her at the altar and disappeared? Since when does Nina have enough of a relationship with Dr. O to be freaking out and crying over her?! And why does Nina apparently hate Elizabeth, just because she had the audacity to be upset that Aiden was bullied? She deserved an evil eye or a smack for the "I'm even happy for Elizabeth, you two are perfect for each other" lines. 

Speaking of deserving an evil eye and smack, shut UP Maxie. I went "REALLY?!" when Maxie indicated it was "inappropriate" for Lulu to be talking and laughing with that guy. I feel sorry for how pathetic Maxie is looking.  Lulu seemed to have more chemistry with, and enjoy being around, that guy in less than an hour than Maxie has had enjoyment in her entire friendship and "relationship" with "Peter."

\

[LexieLily]

1 minute ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I figured that Julian would interrupt Kim with Drew but he sucks for being all "poor poor sweetheart, you need help," removes her from the scene, and doesn't bother to show a moment of concern for Drew. You just take Kim's word that "he'll be fine," really?! 

That was what annoyed me too. Kim is a doctor and knows what she gave Drew, but you find her in a compromising position with a clearly unable-to-consent Drew and Julian leaves him there and simply takes Kim at her word that whatever she gave him won't kill him by the time someone finds him?

[dubbel zout]

3 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

7 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I figured that Julian would interrupt Kim with Drew but he sucks for being all "poor poor sweetheart, you need help," removes her from the scene, and doesn't bother to show a moment of concern for Drew. You just take Kim's word that "he'll be fine," really?! 

That was what annoyed me too. Kim is a doctor and knows what she gave Drew, but you find her in a compromising position with a clearly unable-to-consent Drew and Julian leaves him there and simply takes Kim at her word that whatever she gave him won't kill him by the time someone finds him?

Julian's probably afraid he'll get the blame for Drew's condition, which, let's face it, isn't an unreasonable concern.

[statsgirl]

2 hours ago, ffwbe said:

When was the last time there was a big event where Sonny, Carly, Jason, or Sam weren’t present?

This is why really appreciating these episodes. Pretty clothes, pretty people, a who dun it? pushing Liesl, history in Liz, Finn, Epiphany, Valentine, Nina snarking at her. romance, tragedy (Kim) angst (Brad) and no Corinthos mob.  And a snark at the low salaries teachers make (Dustin has to make ends meet by working Uber nights).

BM and IR should be shirtless more often. (I wish to state my appreciation for Drew's black boxers.)

As much as I don't like the story, I have to hand it to TB, she's really selling Kim having a psychotic break from grief. I also like that Drew and Julian are sympathetic rather than going Carly-hysteric.  Also, I really liked Kim's dress.

Was Hayden always this self-centered? She shouldn't be cagey with her sister how long she's doing to stay, it's a simple question. But way worse is showing up kissy-kissy with Jax without even acknowledging Finn who she left with only a note.

Hayden's necklace was perfection with that dress.

[bannana]

46 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

BM and IR should be shirtless more often. (I wish to state my appreciation for Drew's black boxers.)

Yup.  I thank Kim for attempting to rape Drew because we so rarely get to see him shirtless. 😜

1 hour ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Why is Hayden looking at Finn like he is the one who left her at the altar and disappeared?

Yeah, that made no sense at all.  What a bitch.

[ciarra]

I really hope they're going to explain Kim's psychotic break as being caused by the malaria vaccine she took. 

[TVbitch]

The wedding reception was full on soapy goodness. I loved it. 

New hot guy Uber/teacher --yes please! 

No CarsonJam --hell yes please!

I don't mind if a psychic comes around and pushes along some of these boring stories that have been going on forever. 

Here is a new story I'd like to see: Trina youtube's that video of Cam and his brothers song. Cam goes viral and gets some interest from a label, leading to a huge Cam storyline of him getting a big head, maybe even going off the rails, then righting himself again. It could be a year long story. No CarsonJam in sight!

Did I mention how enjoyable this show can be when it is not cramming CarsonJam down our throats!! 

[YaddaYadda]

8 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

Here is a new story I'd like to see: Trina youtube's that video of Cam and his brothers song. Cam goes viral and gets some interest from a label, leading to a huge Cam storyline of him getting a big head, maybe even going off the rails, then righting himself again. 

Lucky seems the video and decides he needs to come home to his sons.

[Blackie]

why was Nina at the wedding reception and not Lulu?

Now I know why Kim was wearing such a fugly dress, quick in and out I guess.

Did Kim get the syringe from Brad?  Yesterday she had to go talk to Brad, then all of a sudden the lights were out....there was some bad editing or weird story telling yesterday.

Did Hayden know Jax last time she was in PC?  They make an OK couple, I just can see Jax with the new blah, not crazy Nina. Not that he would be any better with crazy Nina, but this actress just is not doing anything for me.

Edited July 9, 2019 by Blackie
typos

[nilyank]

So Dustin is high school teacher/uber driver. I am certain that he will be mixed with our quad of teens.

So Jax and Hayden are sort of dating? Great. Apparently they met in Rome which is around the time that Finn blew her off.

Shut up Bobbie. Proud of Franco? Shut up again.

Are we sure that Kim didn't complete the deed with Drew?

[dubbel zout]

Kim is at Nina levels of baby-crazy. It's only a matter of time before she completely snaps and rips a baby out of its mother's womb. Or hell, she doesn't need to do that. She just needs to deliver a baby and kidnap it.

[YaddaYadda]

25 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Shut up Bobbie. Proud of Franco? Shut up again.

Bobbie is a moron. She's proud of Franco, her daughter is married to a criminal who gets fairly frequent tongue baths, but Julian gets slapped around and told off because he dared try to help his son after he asked him.

The writing is so grating. 

I liked Dustin. The writing for the character reminded me a lot of Patrick Brewer on Schitt's Creek, tbh. 

Maxie is also a fucking moron and a broken record. Also, I don't think I've ever seen her and Peter eating anything but salads. The couple that's boring together eats boring food together and has boring sex together. She probably talks about Lulu and Dante then too.

Too bad Peter is not a cop, they might have killed him off like they did every cop Maxie has ever dated.

I'm not feeling Jax/Hayden. There wasn't a snark of chemistry there.

The Drew/Kim situation, the less said the better. Did she hit her head somewhere? I understand that she is grieving, but damn, she has gone off the rails completely. Someone hide Scout. If she colors outside the lines like Oscar did when he was her age, she might take off with her.

[ByaNose]

BM looks like he’s been hitting the gym & hard. He looks awesome. Although, I prefer him with the beard. Too bad Kim drugged him for sex. He would have came around eventually. LOL!!!! 

[dubbel zout]

You know, Joss, if you hear splashing and "Help!", there's an excellent chance there is someone in the water. Good grief.

I had to FF most of the Kim/Drew stuff. I'm not watching an attempted rape.

OMG. IT'S BRODY!!!! Paging @TeeVee329! 

[Bringonthedrama]

3 hours ago, TVbitch said:

T. Cam goes viral and gets some interest from a label, leading to a huge Cam storyline of him getting a big head, maybe even going off the rails, then righting himself again. It could be a year long story. No CarsonJam in sight!

Don't bet on it. If Cam were to get a huge storyline,  it would definitely involve his longtime friend Josslyn falling in love with him (after months of "you've been such a good friend through Oscar's death and everything") and Carly getting inserted (especially in confrontational scenes with Elizabeth!) out of '"concern that Joss is getting swept up in all this, and teenage girls who lust after Cam hating on Joss." 

After all, Carly should *not* have been so heavily involved in the Oscar is dying storyline. She had more scenes about Joss and Oscar than Oscar's new Quartermaine family members had! I expect it would be the same in a Cam-focused storyline. 

Edited July 10, 2019 by Bringonthedrama

[dubbel zout]

Julian was exceptionally understanding about the whole Kim-drugging-Drew-so-she-could-rape-him situation.

STFU, Ava. Gah. Her continual bleating to Veronica Cartwright to find Lauren was really annoying. She's as bad as Sonny, demanding/threatening action NOW.

I loved the reaction shots when Liesl growled, "I didn't slip, I was pushed!"

I wish Peter would just let Maxie go on her birdbrained schemes and suffer the consequences. She deserves it for meddling in stuff that's none of her business.

There was no discussion about Elizabeth changing her name, was there? She was never Elizabeth Spencer, I don't think, so this is just another erasure of Lucky.

[Kiki777]

47 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

BM looks like he’s been hitting the gym & hard. He looks awesome. Although, I prefer him with the beard. Too bad Kim drugged him for sex. He would have came around eventually. LOL!!!! 

I was shocked!  Where did that body come from?  But damn he did look good.  I agree about the beard.  Without it he looks 12.

Where does Bobbie get off calling any woman a harpy shrew?  Look in the mirror, dumbass.  And at your daughter.

[Cheyanne11]

58 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

You know, Joss, if you hear splashing and "Help!", there's an excellent chance there is someone in the water. Good grief.

And yet she gets accolades like she dove in, got Liesl out by swimming with her on her back, AND performed CPR.  Carly Jr. levels of "you're so wonderful" going on there.  Just what this show needs...

1 hour ago, ByaNose said:

BM looks like he’s been hitting the gym & hard. He looks awesome.

Indeed.  I remember when he had a few shirtless scenes with Liz years ago and I was chanting "put the shirt back on."  Not anymore.  And thank god Julian found them before anything could happen.  

[paisley]

Drew!!!! Ignoring the ignorance of the storyline, Drew, you looked so good. What a treat.

And a day without the most annoying Corinthii, I am so appreciative. STFU Bobbie, Maxie and Lulu.

All in all not a bad day.

*A grey cake? Why?

[tvgoddess]

The Kim drugging Drew thing is just so entirely creepy, I can't even put into words how icky it makes me feel. It seems worse than Sam because she voluntarily signed up for that shit. But seeing him lying there, helpless. It's such a violation.

I'm miffed that Ava's stuck with this medium of her stupid dead daughter who never once stood by her, even when it came to siding with Sonny and custody of Avery. Screw her. She's dead, and I'm glad.

Although Finn is one of my least favorite characters, his disgust at giving Liesl CPR cracked me up.

So glad that Hayden didn't come back all mousy and watered-down like she was written before she left. Blow shit up, girl! I miss this Hayden and I'm so happy she's back. I am hoping she sticks around. And it's so good seeing Curtis with his Cupcake again. That friendship is a sight for sore eyes. Kissing Jax? Enjoying each other? Get it, girl.

The teens were better today. Maybe dealing with the adults and not discussing their angst over Oscar helped.

I really don't like this version of Nina. Cynthia Watros is a good actress, but she seems really miscast. Her screaming over Liesl rang completely false.

The only good thing about the Maxie/Peter/Lulu scenes was seeing Brody! Too bad Bree Williamson wasn't around this time. Yeah, I know. Sorry, I won't invoke that awful character she played on GH again.

Um, Bobbie? That "harpy" is the bride's sister. She was invited. So kindly STFU.

This episode was even better than yesterday due to the lack of Franco.

[statsgirl]

4 hours ago, Blackie said:

why was Nina at the wedding reception and not Lulu?

Nina is Franco's friend. But Lulu, even though Liz's former sister-in-law and aunt to her sons, was needed to add some life to the very boring Maxie/Peter sleepwalking plot.

1 hour ago, Kiki777 said:

Where does Bobbie get off calling any woman a harpy shrew?  Look in the mirror, dumbass.  And at your daughter.

That bugged me so much because the show's biggest harpies are Bobbie and Carly. Carly's Mini-me is in training.

[ByaNose]

Once again, CW is a good actress but she’s all wrong for Nina or it might be the way it’s being written currently. I know people hated MS as Nina but she was written as nuts and now Nina is normal, boring & business like. She doesn’t have any of the Nina characteristics or her crazy wardrobe. They writers better pick this up on the Sasha reveal or something because Nina needs something to go off on.

[tvgoddess]

7 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Was Hayden always this self-centered? She shouldn't be cagey with her sister how long she's doing to stay, it's a simple question. But way worse is showing up kissy-kissy with Jax without even acknowledging Finn who she left with only a note.

Maybe because she genuinely doesn't know? I'm glad she isn't giving Finn the time of day. But I don't think it makes her a bitch at all. She has an agenda and she's sticking to it yes, but she's probably also trying to mask her pride/vulnerability etc. over the whole thing. It's what she does and is at the heart of her character.

Full whole-heartedly agree and echo the appreciation of Drew with no shirt on. Yes please.

[ByaNose]

46 minutes ago, paisley said:

Drew!!!! Ignoring the ignorance of the storyline, Drew, you looked so good. What a treat.

And a day without the most annoying Corinthii, I am so appreciative. STFU Bobbie, Maxie and Lulu.

All in all not a bad day.

*A grey cake? Why?

That cake really was ugly wasn’t it? Grey? Is that a sign of things for Franco & Liz? 

[nilyank]

22 minutes ago, tvgoddess said:

Maybe because she genuinely doesn't know? I'm glad she isn't giving Finn the time of day. But I don't think it makes her a bitch at all. She has an agenda and she's sticking to it yes, but she's probably also trying to mask her pride/vulnerability etc. over the whole thing. It's what she does and is at the heart of her character.

She tried to reach out to Finn but he didn't want to see her or reschedule their meeting. Now she is holding a big secret about their kid, but it's not like Finn has been grieving her all these years. Within months of her disappearance, he was panting after Anna.

[ByaNose]

When I saw Mark Lawson (ex Brody OLTL) I had thought a while back he’d make a good Drew replacement if Billy Miller had left. Maybe, they had him on the back burner and Billy Miller decided to stay and just gave him a new role. Just a thought.

[Kiki777]

5 hours ago, ByaNose said:

That cake really was ugly wasn’t it? Grey? Is that a sign of things for Franco & Liz? 

Maybe Liz ordered it because, deep down, she knows she is settling.  Big time.

Hate the Kim/Drew storyline but at least we got a Curtis/Drew scene out of it.  I love those two together.

Who is Brody?

[TeeVee329]

9 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

OMG. IT'S BRODY!!!! Paging @TeeVee329! 

*perks up when I read Mark Lawson is on the show*

*droops a bit when I read he's in scenes with Lulu, and not as her brother*

[amaranta]

10 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

OMG. IT'S BRODY!!!!

I thought it was Brody!  And I think he actually had chem with ER so good on him.

I will still miss DZ, but this is an FV get I might enjoy.